I AM CRAZY!!!

GIVE ME MONEY!!!

Just answer this question are Huawei making laptops.

@@richardhall-trafford8653 NO ME FIRST!

Yes Thread the new Gov back door and X replacement. 😅

what is important is that US and its allies have forced China to build its own industry and supply chain for IT and semi conductor production.

​@@user-rt6ip4kb1iindeed it backfired so hard.

Like Taylor Swift said"LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO"

people should remember even tsmc taiwan chip is made by chinese han ethnic born in china , doesnt matter now he live in taiwan , he still han ethnic , if little taiwan 24million population can make chip, nobody can stop 1,4 billions mainland chinese to make 3nm or 1nm chip soon or later ,sanction only make china stronger its prove many times

As soon as we have a western source verifying it I'll give em their attaboy. Intel has already shown that "nm" is a mostly fictional number at this point and Intel wasn't a pawn in a trade war. They have every reason to stretch the truth with basically no reason not to.

Yeah. This is suspicious. Propaganda channels and sites haven't talked about it yet. Something's amiss.

REAL suspicious.

As someone working for a somewhat well-known Chinese sanctioned telecom company, I can say you are 100% and that 2nm means not so much, just check the optical chipset that was released a few weeks ago, big in size sure but very speedy

This channel said this in that bullshit "China is doomed because foreign companies will leave" video from a few months ago.

Yes more theft

I liked E3 better, professional journalists got additional information from developers and they got to play some pre-release demos. The way it's done now sucks, a game announcement happens and a bunch of self absorbed hype men flood KZfaq with worthless speculation and reaction videos.

LTT stated they would soon using their new laboratory. I've heard little since.

I think part of the issue is how large of inferences they draw from very small sample sizes. LMG is wise to take their time if they expect to make any meaningful improvements regarding this.

​@@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq tbh i don't think they'll do a better job than what we can find already that still is kinda poor. Nobody isolates nor differentiate between device power consumption, screen power consumption, SoC power consumption, and motherboard power or even use then interchangeably.

@@jagersama9792 If only we had device schematics and device efficiency compliance information published by law.

I mean if even sample differs wildly then its not good to market. Because as a consumer they don't have to think about what all goes backend what they need is they get what the performance claimed maybe a minor 3-5% doesn't matter but any higher its Quality Control issue.

TSMC itself was created by the Chinese people Li Guoding (January 28, 1910 - May 31, 2001) was a politician and economist of the Republic of China. He was born in Jiangning, Jiangsu (now Nanjing), and his ancestral home was Wuyuan, Anhui (now part of Jiangxi Province). He obtained a Bachelor's degree in Physics from National Central University. Known as an important driver of Taiwan's economic miracle and the godfather of technology in Taiwan, he has served as the Minister of Economy and Finance of the Republic of China Sun Yunqian Birth information: December 8, 1913, Shandong Province Education background: Harbin Institute of Technology In Taiwan, it is known as the "Forever Premier of the Executive Yuan". During his nearly 20 year tenure as Minister and Chief Executive, he and then President of the Republic of China, Chiang Ching kuo, promoted the Ten Major Construction Projects, and together with Lee Kuo ding, promoted the establishment of the Hsinchu Science and Technology Industrial Park, planning early science and technology policies for the Republic of China; Many people believe that it is not only the main founder of Taiwan's technology industry, but also one of the "drivers of Taiwan's economy" and an important contributor to the economy of the Republic of China. Zhang Zhongmou, born on July 10, 1931 in Ningbo, Zhejiang, is the founder of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. (TSMC) and is known as the "chip king" and the "semiconductor godfather" of Taiwan. Member of the board of directors of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and an academician of the Taiwan Academy of Mechanical Sciences, as well as serving as an advisor to the New York Stock Exchange and Stanford University.

They have already figure out how to manufacture 5nm node with their new order EUV equipment from ASML. Probably 3nm by now if the US didn't Tanya Harding by blocking ASML shipment of the machine.

Turns out the 5nm and 7nm chips were both made in Taiwan, China is actually even further behind then experts were expecting

Me too

Just Afraid of the European Union

It's referred to as ActivityPub. You can test it on almost any Mastodon instance.

I want too

+1

In other words, a fucking refresh from 2012 but naming better for idiots, LOL

Not until it’s out we presume it’s still 10nm outdated spec

Its technically 14th gen chip, since performance wise not that different

@@user-mj9tr3ym5t outdated specs are competing just fine with "current" AMD specs because people don't care about power usage unless they are poor. No amount of fanboism is going to change that. Until "we presume" - no one cares. No one even knows who "you" are. @piplupempoleon4225 Its technically 14th gen chip, since performance wise not that different - ok, X3D cpus use the same tech as every other chip from that node and it's much faster in certain tasks, only difference is more cache on core. What I am saying is, that you construed your conclusion poorly. Also, technically it's not 14th gen chip since that was the previous one. quote from Intel: "Intel Core 14th Gen Desktop Processors launching Oct. 16, 2023, feature six new unlocked desktop CPUs for enthusiasts: i9-14900K/KF, i7-14700K/KF and i5-14600K/KF. These new processors are available at retailers and OEM partner systems starting Oct. 17, 2023. (Credit: Intel Corporation)"

Probably Linux that apes Windows 10/11.

Yeah, running Deepin

@@ahriboy oh the fake Mac OS 😂😂😂

@@lesleyhaan116 nah, not really. Linux DEs are different from macOS' Aqua.

@@ahriboy I mean the design of Deepin that looks like Mac OS

To be fair x86 processors are a very different architecture to ARM.

The 5nm of the Kirin seems, at best, like the 5nm of Samsung, which is like Intel 7, this year, in 2023, Intel started using massively Intel 4.

EXACTLY! people dont realise but the restrictions have made them stronger!

huawei is trailing qualcomm in 5G and ahead of apple who basically gave up.

more importantly, it is China that has prompted U$ corporations to start innovating again, be more competitive, instead of "rent seeking" economy based on past IPs@@havencat9337

To be fair they removed their "Do no evil" slogan years ago.

​@@GH0STST4RSCR34Mit did. don't be evil was a diss on microsoft. people have forgotten that.

Where can I get more info on this ... ?

Both companies are two of the most evil in the world.

@@woodworking406Every megacorp is evil, the question is how much each specific one is. Apple needs to have its anticompetitive walled garden opened up some more, the EU already made a bit of progress.

Yes and Hawkpoint has an even better NPU! It has already been announced.

@@tstager1978 Precisely!

2 Things. 1-AMD disable their NPU in almost half of their zen 4/4c skus (the pheonix 2 don't have the XDNA on it). 2-Intel still has more market share in notebook market and their new meteor lake wil have the npu available in all skus.

Hawkpoint will take it from here. Phoenix 2 was a test chip. @@mawkzin

It's like no regular user cares about AI chips. Shocker.

also, by integrating with federated sites like Mastadon people can create their accounts on Zuck's servers to use on those other sites instead of the other way around. One of the main issues with federation is you can't be sure how long the server you wanna create an account on would last or be consistent, services run by big tech like Fb or Google have more longevity and are easier to jump into since most people have a gmail and fb acct (Threads is logged into via Insta which can be logged into via Fb).

In the end, Threads will soon be defederated by smaller instances as a security measure.

@@ahriboy I'm sure some will. But I really hope thus can be a step toward users owning more of their data and platforms being more interoperable. If this is successful, other smaller platforms might follow and band together to compete against the bigger ones. Just like there is a strong right to repair movement, there should be a stringer right to migrate movement demanding companies to provide some level of interoperability.

*threads, if facebook's main site gets federated is another story. I don't see an incentive for them to stay isolated, i do see incentive for the opposite tho

@@fuseteam Facebook should be read as Meta in my comments lol

Right, it's not so much the ability to squeeze out smaller architectures as the profitability in making them. Sure you might get like 5 successes per wafer, but to scale up for the market it needs to be more like maximum 5 _defects_ per wafer.

That's what they intend to do, with ssmb technology.

or they are getting them from somewhere else, under the table... on very limited quantitates.. because if their yield on the other ones was so low, these 'new' ones are practically not viable to produce, unless you want to just 'show them'.. which COULD be the case..

Y'all said that when Huawei released it's mate 60 pro. Now it can manufacture so much of those chip that it overthrown Apple as the biggest mobile vendor in China.

@@Rex-ww4cw yes they also released a 5nm equivalent microchip for computers.

You need to raise the bar man....

Mkbhd is out of depth, geekerwan from china is god of smartphone and spesific laptop cpu, gpu review, gamers nexus and hardware unboxed are god of pc review

ColdFusion documented about Threads and ActivityPub

8xxx copy of 7xxx only change is dedicate ai hardware. It have same 4zen, same clocks, same cores, same APU, same cache

U already move to the next one? Who said china needs 5-10 yrs to develop their own chip?😂

I didn't notice that 👀 That's certainly interesting, but I wonder what's the point of that when there are collapsible RJ45s of similar size (not sure if I'm using the right word, but those that fold that some laptops use), and if not that, then you can always use a USB C network adapter or hub that comes with one (that first option is basically the same size as an mini RJ45 to full size adapter).

Or steal.

@@KZfaqWatcher264Huawei has the most advanced 5G tech. Why steal from others that have inferior tech. They are already working on 6G.

​@@KZfaqWatcher264the west is the biggest thief.

Americans are delusional. They want China to fail so bad that they'd rather believe in a lie than reality.

​@@KZfaqWatcher264can you explain me how to steal chip making technology? Why is Endia not doing so?

If it's real. This is a very big "if"!

​@@jimhalpert9421 what do you mean if?!!🤦 it's a real thing that's already in the market. no ifs no buts.

​@@soheiladam7510 Show me any technical analysis by a third party, there is not even one from Huawei.

@@soheiladam7510 It's good practice not to believe everything that is self-reported out of China. 9 out of 10 times it is widely exaggerated or not true at all. What they claim to be 5 nm could easily be equivalent to TSMC 7 nm or even worse. No independent party has investigated this chip yet. China just doesn't have EUV machines and without them there currently is no way to manufacture 5 nm equivalent chips. That's just physics. And this is a hot propaganda topic, so there is a high incentive for China to claim 5 nm even if they don't have it.

Is mass producing at low yields really mass producing ? Making a million to make 100 good chips, sure .....

But only if they allow bootloader unlock

​@@DjDanny44I've never used a Huawei phone. Why was that?

They never went out. You can buy Huawei products online in EU.

The EU is a nightmare run by idiots. You must be outside the EU not to know that.

Givewell is a charity that you can choose to support with money directly. Those funds go towards givewell itself, which they use to do promotion, pay their research staff, etc. Then the donations I talk about here are separate. Givewell just connects you to an actual third party charity without taking a cut.

Huawei makes chips as well, in their own factories.

@@nicolaupoceiro7570 it's called SMIC, buddy, get some knowledge by reading my post.

@@nicolaupoceiro7570 Yes, Hisilicon

And they then die after given the power and the workload they are slapped with within that 1 second

For a more useful number, that is equivalent to ~3840 RTX 4090s running nonstop for a year. That is entirely reasonable for some of the most powerful models and highest-budget companies.

@@skywz Indeed it is! Still, obviously you ain't just waiting a year in front of a screen for a model to pop out, and the scale of computing which some people can afford is just virtually unthinkable

@@xerzy I'm assuming that the 25 (EDIT: 10) YFLOP figure is for training, for which an entire year is perfectly reasonable. It seems far too high for just inference.

@@skywz Yeah, it's for training, although honestly I don't believe for a second they dedicate a year to that and only that, which would leave out any chance at iterating (unless using even more GPUs in parallel, which would still be awkward). According to the paper " _Efficient Large-Scale Language Model Training on GPU Clusters Using Megatron-LM._ " I took from random redditors, it seems like something like GPT-3 could have been trained at ~140 TFLOPS per (say, A100) GPU in 32 days, so ~0.42 YFLOP in a month with "just" a thousand GPUs from 2020. A month, not a year. Which I find insane.

My understanding is that it is the only country in the world that can do that without relying on supply chain from other countries.

It hasn’t