HUGE Mistake, I Lose Money on this $10,000 Table!

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2 жыл бұрын

We make some HUGE Mistakes on this custom job for a client and what should be a nice money maker turns into some serious losses!
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@TheBlueMuzzy 2 жыл бұрын

This behind the scenes mentality being made visible is really appreciated. You guys are great, and this kind of content, with the honesty of what it's like being a business, is really nice to see. Thanks for giving us a peek behind the curtains.

@NicolasRubio 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual John, but just a tip! A commercial shop like yours should have a 10ft sliding table saw, you would’ve had no problems with the joint! I just glued a 4x8” hardwood countertop and I edge-jointed my boards with the slider. A breeze!

@dannyk9798 Жыл бұрын

Ok 😎

@shmang1485 2 жыл бұрын

I love how you overcame all the checks and warps of the wood. That is something a finish carpenter faces, and it's always nice learning how others are able to compensate the kurf, to the wood, to make a squared up piece. Well done, that table is gorgeous!

@andy1517 2 жыл бұрын

A big tip for joining those together. Clamp the boards side by side and then run your tracksaw blade down the center of both edges. You may have to do it two or three times before they seam up perfectly but it works great!

@bclayton39 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you find a track saw that cuts 4”?

@andrewturner3794 2 жыл бұрын

@@bclayton39 you need a saw to cut. the track will not suffice

@andy1517 2 жыл бұрын

@@bclayton39 that top is only about 2 1/4" thick.

@goodtimeshuntintv1554 2 жыл бұрын

Does it not pinch your saw blade? Seems like it would

@andy1517 2 жыл бұрын

@@goodtimeshuntintv1554 I normally do it in about four passes. No issues with pinching. I build live edge tables this size for a living. Alot of the time our slabs are too big for a joiner so this is how we join all of our tops.

@swivvy3037 2 жыл бұрын

I was literally just going through channels I'm subbed to, to see if I'd missed any videos then seen this little gem recently uploaded. Well I know what I'm doing for the next 20 mins

@John_Malecki 2 жыл бұрын

Smart choice !

@timthompson7205 2 жыл бұрын

Being someone’s sub for 20 minutes? That’s too gay!.... Even for the internet.

@donnygrahambuilds 2 жыл бұрын

John - "I quit this job!" **throws tape, storms off** Jordan - "...you can't, your name is on everything" John - "d*mn it! (Well played)" Me - dead XD

@Erik_The_Viking 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful job on the table! Mad respect for folks like you who work with slabs.

@thewoodpost1428 2 жыл бұрын

Badass builds as always!!! Love your guy’s work!! Love the pipe with the Walnut. Incredible job.

@andersonolive4553 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing! I love when I see parallel work styles between two different builders/creators that I watch on KZfaq. Amazing as always and shoutout to Cam over at Blacktail Studios.

@14768 2 жыл бұрын

I have said this only like 10 videos now, you use the jointer incorrectly, that's why it didn't work. Look at the outfeed table at 7:03, there is a big gap there. You always put your weight and pressure on the infeed table and that's not correct. All that does is transfer the existing inaccuracies through. It doesn't matter if the piece is even touching the infeed table after you start the joint, the only thing that is important is that the piece is solidly contacting the outfeed table. Watch parillaworks if you want to see how to correctly use a jointer.

@rmr5044 2 жыл бұрын

you're right! When I use a jointer, the ONLY time where my hands are even above the infeed table is at the very beginning. As soon as even a tiny amount of the workpiece has made it to the outfeed table, I immediately shift all my energy to hold the piece down to the outfeed table and into the back fence. To keep feeding the workpiece through the jointer, I push it only from the outfeed table outward.

@jeffheinzman1612 2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. As soon as the piece passes over the blades of the jointer, you need to bear down on the out feed table to let the jointer do its jointery thing correctly

@JayDee-xj9lu 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffheinzman1612 I usually use a straight edge and a router with the longest straight bit I have. I then know it's square. To run something that large over a jointer is difficult.

@SchysCraftCo. 2 жыл бұрын

John and the boys that turned out very unique and very cool design. Very nice video this week. Hopefully the future owners get great use out of it for many years to come. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friends. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Weld On. Fab On. Keep cutting. Build On. Stay squirrely. Keep Making. God bless.

@monut211 2 жыл бұрын

If you want to joint 2 boards with the track saw you need to get them together and cut them on the same time on the joint gap line, I've done that a lot and it works very well.

@ryangrissom3532 2 жыл бұрын

The old butt, cut, and scoot

@John_Malecki 2 жыл бұрын

We also tried that off camera hahah.

@rmc5775 2 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous work. Thanks for sharing the challenges that you run into.

@chadshipman2410 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful . Love the large pipes on the bottom an Jordan did a fantastic job with the C&C an expoxy pour. Keep it up

@smicksmookety 2 жыл бұрын

I think you've now mastered the video format. You got excitement, tips, slow cuts, fast cuts, explosions, etc. Something for everyone, well done.

@sigguy1361 2 жыл бұрын

Blown away as always John, nicely done!! Plus it's a bonus that as your neighbor, they love your work! Cheers

@dougbrown7150 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work, the process may have been unpleasant but the contrast in that live edge tip with the industrial stand is FANTASTIC!!!

@justinbaird_ 2 жыл бұрын

This is great to see you all work around a problem and still come out on top and create a beautiful piece

@bigdogmn73 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same issues with my last slab table both with the jointing and the rubio but at the end of the day it turned out like your sweet table.

@justinsisson4347 10 ай бұрын

I recently bought a massive poplar slab for a office/gaming desk. I almost went with some maple but he wasn't able to cut it the length I needed and the poplar was way cheaper. First time doing anything like this and started sanding it and researching on what all to do next with butterfly keys and what I need from here on. It's been fun and I can't wait until its finished! Your videos have really helped me a lot keep up the amazing videos!

@TotalBoat 2 жыл бұрын

It turned out amazing! Such a gorgeous table!

@davkilldav211 Жыл бұрын

I like this style but I also like when you can see all the imperfections of the wood slab through a clear top that may sometimes extend into a normal square end made of epoxy. Could be done with many different colors and effects so there is room for creativity there too

@architectinth Жыл бұрын

The table looks fantastic in that room, with the colors, base and overhead lighting. Great work!

@keithweigand7666 2 жыл бұрын

The red pipe gaskets really help the base stand out a bit instead of just being black

@crustycurmudgeon2182 Жыл бұрын

I've never seen more awesome table legs than this! Those heavy-duty pipes painted black with the stainless bolts is just amazing.

@chriscook8076 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a freaking awesome table! Almost as cool as the BRCC table. Great work!!

@AngieWilliamsDesigns Жыл бұрын

So it sucks that you had so many issues. But selfishly I’m glad to see this. Not glad you had issues. But that you shared them with us. I just finished a project that should have been smooth sailing and ran into every possible issue along the way. So yeah… some times things just happen. But they are great learning lessons. Love how it turned out. And learned a lot

@ShamanismDragon 2 жыл бұрын

Little semi pro tip 😜 if you would have colored the part under the orange epoxy white it would have popped in color! I always make the undercoat of a dark wood white under my epoxy layer so the colors can show the full potential little afford big effect. Black underground for dark color effects. Safes pigments and the results are better. Epoxy is a thing 😂👽🌈 peace from Germany

@RtotheK605 Жыл бұрын

Amazing table! Great channel. Subscribed. Forklift safety tip - forks should always point uphill when carrying a load. So if you are going down a slope - go backwards.

@TheTalonts 2 жыл бұрын

You should have taken advantage of your massive CNC router - vac-clamp the 2 slabs as close together as possible, then run a bit down the center. Even if it deviates a little, they should perfectly match up.

@BuildswithBrian 2 жыл бұрын

It had some challenges, but it came out awesome, great work John Sam and Jordan 👊

@c.a.g.1977 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome tabel top, awesome inlay, awesome base. Triple awesomeness achieved!

@rayg436 2 жыл бұрын

You have a great CNC I join my slabs together before facing I have found that I end up with a truer surface thicker top and spend less time facing the slab as I am now only setting up 1 time. I like the big shop. Can't wait to see more of your work.

@arnieherring953 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Job!! You guys are killin' it!

@Rammadsen01 2 жыл бұрын

John, yinz need to contact Pat McAfee about a new table. The stooges mentioned you on their show the other day!

@EvanDunville 2 жыл бұрын

Great looking table. The base is crazy!

@AndrewKleinWW 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta be willing to pull out the hand plane!

@DrewDubious 2 жыл бұрын

if it dosent plug in and go BZZZZZZZZZZZZ I doubt it has a place in this shop lol

@deewi6163 2 жыл бұрын

Boss I feel your pain. I am in the middle of a $5,000 project that I am losing and am 3 weeks past due. But I am learning and the customer is great. Beautiful job.

@grahammacnaughton8398 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful work!

@randolphphillips3104 Жыл бұрын

Coolest subtle little feature. With the book match and the Y shape of the one end, it could be a cutaway of a Y fitting with liquid flowing through. Very cool.

@yamahabiker1937 2 жыл бұрын

If you joint by hand on a piece like that, use a #7 or #8 jointer plane for final jointing; more consistent in eliminating small dips or variations. Any variations left over and that smaller plane will follow them. Then use a #3 or #4 for you finishing passes- eliminates a lot of sanding.

@georgel5308 2 жыл бұрын

Great job. And John you just seem like a fun good dude. Keep up great work great content.

@profitupinc 2 жыл бұрын

That's an epic project!! Beautiful finished product.

@Atlantismonkey40 2 жыл бұрын

This is my saying! NO ONE HAS EVER CLIMBED MOUNT EVEREST, day one. Greatness a process. Amazing job guys.

@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful work, guys! Really amazing looking table! 😃 But yeah... As an old and wise man once said... Shit happens. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your families! 🖖😊

@territ1231 2 жыл бұрын

Worth all the trouble . It looks amazing!!

@ericmpare 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the idea of the large black pipe for the base, kudos

@leeslegacywoodworking5405 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, John!!! Now I won’t be able to use my glue brush without singing that song!!!😂😂😂

@3rd_stall 2 жыл бұрын

Project Junk Punch Complete and Awesomeness still achieved. Customer said it, “We have a lot of ideas for you” = future work from one that may have lost a little money.

@robertechols9094 2 жыл бұрын

Love the table and the folded flag on their counter top!

@daverigby2577 2 жыл бұрын

Super project. You've come a long way.

@thepewplace1370 Жыл бұрын

Amazing work and overcoming the hiccups! Found your channel yesterday and have been loving the content. For the Rubio finish, one thing I picked up watching Cam at Blacktail is how particular you have to be if you're going to put a second coat on (apparently the mfg isn't super keen on this), sanding it down after the first coat, then hand applying the second coat before wiping off and applying a ceramic finish over (iirc this is more for high gloss and protection). Not sure if that had anything to do with the streaking issue you didn't like, but it may be worth some testing.

@josephtwilley7187 2 жыл бұрын

Somebody needs to watch Cam from Blacktail Studio. Haha. It still looks great John. Hate that you lost time and money.

@porker5749 2 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm a little slow on the uptake but I missed the "HUGE" mistake! I wouldn't consider losing four hours labour on re-cutting a $10,000.00 table a "HUGE" mistake. A "HUGE" mistake would be it falling off the forklift on the way next door, or cutting through from the bottom to the top when mortising for the C channel, or any other of a number of scenarios. This re-cutting is nothing more than a minor inconvenience...it's the cost of doing business. I'm calling click-bait on this vid!!!

@davidswanson5669 2 жыл бұрын

Losing a dozen or more hours on a project could be a huge mistake if the mistake was made by an employee or hired help, costing the business hundreds of dollars. But when the owner is the one making the mistake then it literally costs nothing because your income is relative. You already invest money into a business in order to increase your ability to be profitable, and so any kind of trial and error scenario is just one more investment of time, but not money. People would say that the “opportunity cost” means he could have spent those hours on another paid project and therefore is lost money, but I think you have to believe in the idea that the time investment (of learning from a mistake) is worth more than the money you could have made working on something else.

@wellingtonsanissimo8703 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, saved me from wasting 20 minutes.

@thelovacluka 2 жыл бұрын

totally agree

@porker5749 2 жыл бұрын

@@wellingtonsanissimo8703 You're welcome.

@porker5749 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidswanson5669 Exactly. Well said!

@hackcrew42 2 жыл бұрын

Those PH Artichokes from L.P. Above that table look so good with that table. Even on vacation I can’t help but think of work. Fantastic table gents!

@Edgunsuk Жыл бұрын

love the shot of the saw around 6:10 KILSAW !!! haha

@firemanj35 2 жыл бұрын

Great work its beautiful.

@arth.4196 Жыл бұрын

John, Like my cousin, football, Woodworking Craftsman and Machinist on the side. With all the football hits. You, do Great Work.

@jacobzjm 2 жыл бұрын

full of passion!

@makersinthemaking7283 2 жыл бұрын

Love it. Beautiful work

@thenedanocap7673 8 ай бұрын

To debark the live slabs, use an air hammer with the chisel bit. Just make sure to sharpen it because it's meant to split concrete.

@rothandre6497 2 жыл бұрын

Not going to lie, watching you trying to sell your ideas, while your buyer basically says "shut up and take my money" is absolutely awesome.

@estebanquinones8420 6 ай бұрын

Amazing work, love the pipe as legs.

@pmiller4421 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome as always!!!

@matthewcarlacci 2 жыл бұрын

This came out great 👍🏼

@SpQQky90 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing piece. Good job.

@shortsonfire79 Ай бұрын

Dang. I've been clicking around some of your vids for a few months now. Can't believe I found the origin of the live edge champion.

@R1j0hn 2 жыл бұрын

@ 4:08 ---> I preferred option #2... With a small black epoxy river joining them.

@Destroyer-yl1kb 2 жыл бұрын

Hay man love the slight change of content please keep up the more traditional wood working vids

@TheFishingFL 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried cutting your straight edge (glued edge) with the cnc? then you can come back with a flush cut bit to finish it!

@TonyDiCroce Жыл бұрын

I was all ready to complain about glue and some biscuits holding a table that large together... and then he adds the c channel. Saved IMHO.

@WouldWorkforWoodWork Жыл бұрын

That's the big brother (or sister) of the island extension I built for my place! Black walnut book matched with it flaring out just like that! The only thing I added was some Wenge bow ties across some of the cracks.

@DrivingWithJake 2 жыл бұрын

Looks great.

@f.kieranfinney457 5 ай бұрын

Screws are stronger than inserts. They go deeper and grab better. There’s no tension or leverage on a table base so they should last forever. Inserts are only better for multiple re-assembly.

@IrishLion-re8bu 2 жыл бұрын

I quit this job...... You can't, your name is on everything. 🔥😂🔥

@rhiekel 2 жыл бұрын

It cracked me up watching you work on the joint between the slabs. The simple solution is to get them as close as possible, then run a track saw down the middle between the slabs. When finished with the cut, it will fit together exactly, even if the cut itself is not perfectly straight.....

@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer 2 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! well done!!!!!! looks great!!!!!!

@Dazza19746 Жыл бұрын

The timber is moving dude! You’re cuts are perfect, but the wood moves after the fact. Hollow the middle a teeny bit and clamp the shit out of it

@lgbfjbsupporter5566 2 жыл бұрын

To joint the slabs perfectly. Put them back on the cnc and space them apart slightly less than the diameter of your bit. for example 1/2 bit leave 3/8 gap. then cut them at same time if you dont have a bit long enough go as deep as possible and then flush trim from the back side. The bottom doesnt really matter but at least the top side will be mirror cut

@larrykelly2838 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice table.

@jimdoane1362 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool table

@woodcreationwithMudita 2 жыл бұрын

I love the design of the table leg

@upendaglover2559 2 жыл бұрын

thats beautiful!

@edo12310 2 жыл бұрын

I vind IT so satisfying sering Them grow

@charlesthomas9294 2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious... what situations would make you consider c-channel for a project like this? It seems obvious for a large slab like this, but is there a certain width where you feel like is the cutoff?

@gulfcoastgrainz2245 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same streak problem with a 14’ kitchen island last week. It came from burning the first coat of Rubio into the wood when scuffing before adding the 2nd coat, much like your table here. Sucked to have to re sand it all. But it got done and turned out great

@anthonyvincent9990 2 жыл бұрын

for future reference, On and incline back down and the load kicks up giving more clearence to your load.

@cree878 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@terryhayward7905 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful job on the table, I would have splayed the legs to follow the lines of the wood, but that is just personal taste.

@Lumberox 2 жыл бұрын

Epic my friend. Nice work. Be even sweeter when you get your milk set up and rocking

@scorpio6587 2 жыл бұрын

"Some days you make money, some days you make friends." --Isaac Ostrom, The Tile Coach

@adammiller8415 9 ай бұрын

the base fits the company perfect

@FixItFrench 2 жыл бұрын

10/10 table🔥🔥🔥

@squirrel3244 2 жыл бұрын

stopped smoking cannabis due to wood working. if you go to maui the ritz carlton has a 20,000 table made of monkey pod i help work on. its not how good we are as carpenters its how good can we fix our mistakes. and this is a lesson i took to hear and apply it to life.

@John_Malecki 2 жыл бұрын

First, best name ever. Second, love the comment and am super grateful for you!