Thank you, O Great Marty. Your music and contributions to Halo will always be remembered and missed. Wish we had you back. 🥲❤

Omg HiI! I've always loved your music! I miss the art you used to make with halo music 😓💙

Marty!! Wish you were still working on Halo, your music was the best.

Thank you for the best gaming music of all time Marty ❤

the man himself

It's all making sense today 😂

given the chance, they'd make halo just like the paramount show....

Damn, i could only hope. That series was awesome​@@ProjectADAMAndroid

Now yvo see...

That’s an insult to guilty spark honestly, at least he has the justification of being driven mad by 100k years of isolation

I NEVER thought about that...

They were Angry that the Success of Bungie wasn't Their's. So they'll do everything in their Power to Destroy what we Love.

That's one of the very first things I've noticed when finishing the games. I said to myself, "Where the hell is the credits left by Bungie?" That just shows you how jealous 343 was of Bungie.

They also removed the post credits scene from halo 1

It really sucks when you look at the ending of Halo Reach in MCC and see that they removed and ended the final cutscene just before the love letter to the fans from bungie appears. That just feels like a punch to the gut and slap to the face to me. Not only are you removing something (media preservation) but it was also something to show love to the fans (fuck the fans) It was a generally harmless thing too

Says a LOT about Microsoft (as a video gaming brand)...still greedy and don't care about their customers

Even bungie was dogshxt at making halo games.

I'll just say I was 13 in 2007, and to read this post makes me happy in a way I didn't know I could be.

@@pasqualezarro5216 1994 squad

Jesus christ I just realized how good we had it. I was 13 in 07 as well. We had CoD 4 and Halo 3 to choose from. The literal saints of modern gaming. The entire library of the 360 was pure gold. Been gaming on PC since 2015, but I'd give anything to go back.

@@Zargabaath I discovered MW2 and Halo Reach when I was 11, rarely played multiplayer because XBLive costs money and we were broke. Still miss those days, same as you I started gaming on PC in 2015. As many things in my life that are far better now than they were then, I still want to go back for some reason.

I didn't play the Halo FPS til 2013/14 with ODST as my first. Never had internet on my 360, but between the excellent story, atmosphere and Firefight, I was entranced by the Halo 3 multiplayer maps soloing running around. Bought rest of the series on 360 in 2014. 10 years later after getting Reach, Inheritor rank achievee offline.

We were ALWAYS right

Which is sad because it's not like we wanted to say bad things on everything 343 industries does, it's just that it was genuinely that bad. There was a certain point we probably could have fixed 343I but I firmly believe that time has passed. Each failure only means that their next hit "has to be a success" and what happens when it isn't because it took steps back compared to the original formula and barely had any actual hard work put into it? We get Halo:Infinite, a game where you could see the soul being ripped out of it in real time. They cancelled development of MCC to have the guy who made it great try and make their next product great, but realistically they should have just let him cook. If the legacy games had their flaws ironed out Halo would have a dedicated MCC community. I imagine the reason they still have some of the talented voice actord is to prevent talented people from releasing better products with voice acting because it would just destroy anything they've made and they know it. I'm someone who gave Halo 5 a chance and only liked it because it was the last halo game to have hit detection that met my standards.

See . That’s where you’re almost right. The old “ management “ as in frank O’Connor, Bonnie Ross and Kiki wolfkill, we’re all leads at 343 industries. The mcc lead developer and support leader , was then prompted to the director of 343 industries. There fore you’re almost right and I also think this video is a bit click baiting. But none the less I find it’s been 10 years. I don’t believe they would flip a switch just to please us bungie fans. 1 . I actually think the modern controls …” sprint “ is actually good in halo. I’m happy it’s in . 2. I love bungie but the now bungie that’s owned by Sony would never be able to make halo the same . They’re not the same bungie at all now .

Have been for a decade.

Of course we were right I always said 343 hated halo and 3 bad games and a shit tv show proves it plus the firing of legends who helped made the game

They've banned me from their Steam forums, lol.

I was banned from the Halo Discord Feb 2023 for calling them clowns. Changed my name to "343 Industries" or something, put a clown as my profile picture, and wrote in my bio about being clowns and incompetent and such. They weren't too happy about that.

⁠sad the clown car you probably used didn’t get to a final stop@@BlazeHound

Lowlife

They've banned me from the steam forums, cuz I called em out for being a bunch of cowards lmao.

Imagine running a bakery amd hiring someone who hates brownies to make your brownies more appealing to people who were never going to buy brownies. The 2010s era of game design just went fucking nuts

That should have been the warning we ALL should have heeded.

Like a video game corporate version of the attack on Pearl Harbor. There were warnings, but no one heeded them until it was too late... s

That was the moment I said goodbye to Halo

​@danielmejia8103 No, there were definitely those of us that recognized the signs and even pointed them out, but blind fanboys turned to denial and gaslighting.

Thanks! Those are my exact thoughts too. They should be honored to have the original creators applying for jobs there, but instead they’re somehow looking down upon them. It’s just wrong…

3 times? Bungie made marathon which was the FIRST FPS that allowed players to look up. The marathon series (not the reboot) pushed the industry forward 3 times! Halo did it 4 more times. And destiny also did it. Though… not for the better live service games suck. But Bungie is probably the most important FPS studio ever

​​@@RusticRonnieMaybe a hot take but I think Halo/CoD homegenized FPS games and crushed out diverse games like 007/Perfect Dark style shooters, and Unreal (before Tournament). They're all "you get 2 guns and some objectives". Yes I think Halo is wonderful, but I don't think we'd be worse off without Halo either. The FPS landscape would be completely (possibly unpredictably) different. Also I thought Duke Nukem was the first FPS to let us look up so thanks for that fun fact. Edit: Also Destiny 2 (haven't played 1) is one of the most mindless "pew pew walk forward" games I've ever played. Hardly a comparison of pushing anything forward..

4 times Bungie pushed the gaming industry forward, your forgetting Halo Reach.

@@RusticRonnie Valve and id Software are just as important if not moreso to the FPS genre as a whole than Bungie.

Fire343

I'm to the point that I think 343 should be turned into a satellite studio and force them to do maps and skin netcode for other games. Never to make or to work on their own games ever again. Yes, I am that petty

Sad we can’t take the air card from you for good

Can we do that this you ​@@revan5293

⁠I think the saddest thing is @@BatMan-xe1vtis that all pettiness shows is how useless someone can be

100&. I didn't get hyped for infinite at all while all the halo content creators were creaming their pants. I wonder why that was. Perhaps a little paid vacation to 343 industries and a little bribe on the side? Who knows.

​@@rm25088Halo Content Creators are know as the "Forerunners" or as the "Shillrunners" as I like to call em. Apparently their names are in the staff community section of Halo Infinites staff credits. Plus they did went to 343 numerous amounts of times even Ubernick admitted he went to 343 to try out infinite and ended up having a fake reaction towards the 2020 gameplay trailer.

@@EvilPhoenix007 I remember hearing about that. I can't stand Ubernick. Hypes up everything to the max. The shillrunners is more like it. It is really unfair to promote a trash game and hype it up like they do. They will do it again as soon as Halo 7 comes around and I will laugh at them.

​​@@rm25088They should be documented for future references. Something that should have happened back in 2012 when these guys were teenagers licking 343s boots.

People like Favyn would shit talk infinite and speculate on things like Sprint - despite literally playing it before those videos meaning he was not only shilling to his audience but lying to them as well lmfao All of the Forerunners would pretend like they were seeing everything for the first time when in reality they knew what we were getting months or even years in advance. So stupid

List of good halo games Bungie and 343 made after November 10, 2004: (none)

343 Industries needs to start worshipping everything Bungie as the GOLD STANDARD, if they want anyone at all to care about their next Halo games.

wow yes it does

@Jeepon35s did 343 do something stupid and don't consider humans forerunners anymore? i dont know much about lore

@Jeepon35s I have heard about 343 fucking the low all up. I wish they never touched Halo.

@@rm25088 There's a good video (long but full of detail) from C3 Sabertooth about how humans being Forerunner was 100% Bungie's intention and 343i (aka Frank O' Connor) royally messed it up and retconned it. It's called Halo: We WERE Forerunner! and a good watch. Makes me hate 343 even more tbh.

@@whydidimakethis111 I'll check it out when I get home for sure

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Hate Microsoft. They refused to let 343 contact the OG Halo devs at all. According to the OGs themselves.

I've reached the peak and I've found another mountain to climb. Microsoft hasn't made a good decision (that wasn't walking back a bad decision) since windows 8 Edit: Windows 7, I realized how it sounds.

@user-fm4ux1gg1x no, I fixed my comment

Bro, I stopped playing halo after halo 4. Everybody else just kept buying their shit. 😆

THANK YOU!!! for years I heard idiotic kids saying this to me. I was a teenager in 2014 and I remember them all saying this to me. Now we get the last laugh and can say I TOLD YOU SO!

its not nostalgia, i ran a friend through 3 and reach (he said he only played infinite which shattered my soul) and it was the most fun ive had in a while

People saying this are just being lazily dismissive and down right delusional in the face of a legendary legacy

A decade of gaslighting.

"Well you can forget about your A2 scope...."

I remember those interviews too and they were on the Halo Waypoint 360 app where the app wasn't very well known back then. Its a shame no one saved those videos because some idiots in the Halo Community thinks its a false narrative.

@@EvilPhoenix007 I think crowbcat has clips in some of his 343 videos of them saying that, great channel

I want to say they talked about how they wish halo was more call of duty in those interviews as well

Same

Loooool 😅 I’m glad it connected with you, I thought the SpongeBob analogies I was showing were actually pretty spot-on, hah

Too real

No, I love halo gameplay.

This hit too hard with how I feel about playing the game rn.

Reach killed Halo. It was made under contractual obligation to Ms and was used by Bungie as road test for what would become Destiny. All the new additions that Reach introduced, steered Halo into what it became. Halo 1-ODST’s core gameplay loop was based on the trifecta of guns, grenades and melee. Yes, 3 introduced equipment but this didn’t fundamentally change that core loop.

Spending countless hours in Reach and Halo 4, I strongly prefer Reach over 4 and past releases. Controversial I know, but I had a hard time getting into 3, the movement and tiny maps were a pain to traverse. Reach added more cover, extra movement and a far better story. CE was ok I guess.

Reach was the worst halo game ever made, hands down, bar none, not close; and OBJECTIVELY speaking. you would understand this fact if you were old enough to have even played 1 good halo game. Youve probably spent ZERO MINUTES playing halo 2 on ORIGINAL XBOX competitively. AKA your opinion means dxck.

@@suntzu6122 * gasp * An opinion standing as juxtaposition to my own! Ohhh I should be so cross right now! But nah ur probably right, I can't retroactively visit the past and play the glory days with you, I plain found Reach's story captivating even if it presented a debilitating precedent that every Halo game to follow had to prioritise cinematics over gameplay.

@@scrittle talking more about mp anyway. And comp halo. MP halo was ruined in reach. They literally fxcked up every single core game mechanic.

Why are they even remaking it when CE anniversary already exists? Not that anniversary is a very good version, Halo CE is literally #1 on the list of games that shouldn't be remade. At least not by those fools at 343. I'm a graphics snob yet I still play CE in the OG graphics mode on PC and it looks beautiful. Art style always trumps raw visual fidelity.

​@@JohnDoeWasntTakenclassic halo ce is better, the qhile reason people still play classic is because it is the way it is

@@halo091 Yeah I meant to say CE anniversary mode isn't a good version so Imma edit it. But yeah I agree, that's why I play in classic mode even though I'm a snob for graphics in other games.

thats basically most devs nowadays

You drop some of the most alarming stories about 343 and Bungie, this was something people needed to see. I’m surprised others aren’t talking about it much or at all, it’s sad that something so ridiculous can be slid under the rug… The information is out there (I didn’t show some of the sources of what you said, they’re public anyway), but people still refuse to accept it, it’s a shame. Looking forward to your next info drop though! 🔥

I think the problem is that you are focusing solely and heavily on 343 and not so much on MS and old (maybe even some new) management. While I won’t sit here and say anything you’ve said isn’t probably true, there’s far more to be said on the matter that I’ve seen so far from you. For example, why weren’t the old leadership changed out early on for not allowing the old Bungie employees who could have at least helped things go on, why weren’t MS/Xbox doing anything about the company when their first game wasn't up to what they had hoped for, and why were there problems like this to begin with inside the studio that could have made Xbox and Halo worthy of a fight? Overall, while I do have high points for your post that I like, I think over all, your presentation and attitude towards the subject were very one-sided and heated, even with valid everything but something to show. You are definitely a great inside reporter, but the lack of cool-minded thinking definitely doesn't give me much desire to look into your stuff. I hope you understand and have a good day.

I wish I could do more to help but I'm doing everything I can with my new friend @RedSentimentFilms to bring this stuff to light but I wish I could do a video interview with the OG Bungie devs, your Contacts within Microsoft and 343I and show the world what's been going on for the past 13 years.

Well the reason why no one is talking about it is because all the big halo content creators like Hiddenexperia, the act man, and all the others were invited to 343 industries and everything was paid for. I think even general heed was invited and he hardly does infinite videos and never says anytthing about the game. But I may be wrong. I bet it was to bribe them to only speak positive of the games and them in general. sure, they may say some stuff about the store and stuff but it is never anything extremely serious. I now can't take anything any of them say seriously. It was mighty suspicious that they were all invited there.

Just wanna say you’re based. From someone on the inside.

Lol Destiny called

i’m here with you brother. hate seeing so many bad choices they’ve made. i love halo.

I feel you man. The part that annoyed me the most is how they kept Paul Russel waiting in the parking lot for an hour and then didn't call back after they told him they would. And I can't stand that 343 hired Haruspis. It's unbelievable how Halo ended up with such a crappy team of people.

@@riddell26literally idk why people act like bungie was going to stay the same small dev team that lived and breathed halo. They asked to leave to make destiny and it sucks as much as any of the modern halos. I’d take doing an hour in 5 vs destiny 2 any day. The game development landscape is just not the same none of these companies are going to make the game you want with an IP like halo

Really feel bad for Marcus Lehto. How terrible do you think his experience was with EA to the point of leaving the company and retire from game development?

Yo literally, they thirsty as fuck for halo and that desperate for some halo D that they rather have a shit company make it 😂😂

Halo Content creators have been like that for years. I'm so glad people have woken up to their BS like I have when it came to their Halo 5 videos and the bs they used to spew out back then.

I audibly laughed when Ryan MacCaffrey’s tweet said that CE was remastered “very well”. There’s no way he actually believes that.

Miss old Halo days...Im OG Bungie fan from CE, left halfway Halo 4 campaign...(Cortana Death..)Played Infinit Campaign, grapple was cool but yeah...Halo is not the same since 343i took over ..😢

I knew 343 Industries was the doom of Halo the second I played Halo 4 and HATED it immediately.

Halo was dead long before 343 even touched it.

@@suntzu6122 No it was far from it, nice try.

@@supersnow17 lol? How old are you? Downhill when 4 launched? Reach had random primary weapons lmaoooo. Mini nuke nades. And no bleed melee that removed shooting from being viable at a certain range that noone actually knew or could learn because sprinting into bullets to double derp someone killed faster. Not to mention armor lock and jet pack which were obv mistakes. Then when they "fix" the dmr it deleted 80% of the sandbox from being viable. All 100% on bungie. Their flagship sending off halo game was DOGSHXT. Unless ofc youre a zombie fanboy who is too r3tarded to notice these things. Theres basically a 100% chance you never played a good halo game in your life.

Nope! It’s still up on KZfaq on the official Xbox KZfaq account. I wish more people remembered that one, 343 set the tone early on and haven’t changed since.

Remember the vid of the devs getting so excited seeing the demo of the lootbox?

​@@RW-li2im What is it called?

@@RW-li2im What's called? Need it alol

​@@Ryzard req system tutorial, its insane that its still up

Tried infinite for 1 hour. Couldnt figure out why it felt like shxt. Then it hit me. The strafe speed. 80% left/right strafe. LOL what in the FXCK??????

Bungie ain't much better rn if not worse.

@@sword_racer185 What and how Bungie is doing today is not relevant though.

​@@SparrowEmpireTbf most of the original people behind Bungie-era Halo aren't part of modern Bungie.

@@emperortethysusdacertified8175 Yes. But what does that have to do with anything?

@@SparrowEmpire Oh, I meant for that to be a response to the other guy, sorry.

bro really thought he did something

This. I 1000% percent agree. Fire343. they killed my love for halo. I will pop champagne the day they get fired

343 killed halo and Xbox

​@cooliipie they 100% did and I've been trying to tell people since 2014... I was 19 at the time and no one believed me.. now I'm a man and no longer care about the game I grew up with sadly

>343i >people pick one

Stop people from using "cook" as a replacement for what we actually mean.....

​@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves don't let them burn Halo even more

@@connorpayton608 too many words, will cook instead.

⁠sad it ain’t you @@connorpayton608

343 cooked, burned down the house, and now Halo is a homeless mess who is on the street begging for microtransactions by shaking his red solo cup for change.

The only room really left for any benefit of the doubt would be if that was all pre-Pierre Hintz management, and he can course-correct by hiring some OG Bungie alumni.

People like you with your years of inaction are the reason 343 has been left to burn this franchise to the ground for more than a decade. Finally coming around after it's too late

@@oliverjackson5973 "Inaction". And what exactly do you suppose he should've done? I can't see you contributing to any changes with your loud screeching.

@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu You're deluding yourself if you think that'll happen.

@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Because if there’s not unity in the fan base then nothing gets done. There’s been a segment of 343 D riders making excuses for over a decade that’s allowed this to happen

Even though I wanted them to reunite, the no Bungie policy sounds like a petty thing 343 WOULD do. Have you guys noticed that everything leading upto now is as goofy as old Bungie community posts? Remember the pizza skin for the assault rifle? The grunt mech? Adding Conan? Oonsk? Fronk the fish? I genuinely believe that the more goofy/childish people stayed with Halo while the ones that wanted to grow and explore went to work on Destiny. While I’m not saying Destiny was all bad, remember how stale and lacking of comedic moments Destiny 1 was? There’s a good chance that all the jokers stayed with 343 hence why 343 struggles so hard to world build and story write. Remember, they didn’t come up with WHY John got a new suit. Their explanation was nanomachines. They tried to put story second and the flashy gameplay first but after time, they ran out of ways to improvise until the community started to take notice and saw through it. ODST won’t get a sequel because it was Bungie’s idea and a testbed for how Destiny’s open world could have worked. Destiny was even teased in ODST. And when it comes to Infinite, 343 banked on nostalgia by making everything Reach-like with the armor to pander to nostalgia because it was their last real high point. They don’t do anything anymore with pre-Reach content or actual Reach content because they probably don’t know how. The moment Halo 5 beta came out, I realized it wasn’t Halo anymore. And let’s not forget how the ENTIRE art direction changed with 4 to distance itself from Bungie.

makes too much sense tbh

You can tell bungie put their heart and soul into their halo games compared to 343’s halo games

​@@kingdoge69during an age where this stuff was relatively new and hobby like it makes sense. Its unfortunate how compromised it's become to corporate manipulation but its such a fascinating thing that it was pretty much inevitable, same as the fall of Halo I feel. When we look at the kind of people who've infiltrated the hobby and want to use it as a puppet for their own gain, everything makes sense

​@@kingdoge69 fun fact, bungie rebuilt there entire engine and literally put there everything into a game thats existance was originally defined by contractual obligation, they only made that gane because they HAD TO and it was still a million times better than the soulless slop that 343 has made

Their motto was literally for gamers by gamers!

And I will pop champagne when that happens

Raven software. That's objectively the correct choice.

You do realise they already rebooted the studio it's got new people running it now

​@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005And its still 90% of the same turds, and has failed to do anything positive with infinite in the year they've had with it.

I can’t wait until Microsoft dissolves

Also they’re not very faithful to the originals particularly ce anniversary

H4 and the reach takover left a bad taste in my mouth. Then the they force-fed their bullshit with 5 and infinite. They suck man.

Fuck Microsoft shutting down Tango and not 343 Industries, what absolute STUPIDITY.

I stopped caring all together. And recently I deleted my Xwitter account due to the fact 343 fanboys on that hellhole are so thin-skinned they can't handle 343 criticisms and get absolutely butthurt that they delude themselves even further.

@@EvilPhoenix007343 ruined halo

But then again what do i care. I havnt played a halo game in nearly 2 years

Lol, it's 343. More like 3 steps forward and 43 steps back.

it's not "soul-crushing", it's nuanced discussion. we need a few devil's advocates to point out the stuff we don't usually think about. of course, the 343i defenders need to make actual arguments first

​@@botpenn4672 100% i agree about having an opposing argument so you can challenge your own beliefs. But i disagree that it is "few". From what i have seen, its the majority, as from my experience, the fans that still had hope, have now given up and left. Just like me. But in this case, i dont think a lot of arguments in support of 343 are rational or logical, as the incomprehensible stack of mistakes that 343 have made far outweigh the positives and, at least in my opinion, it is time for change. Not excusing, praising or defending them because of something good they have done while there is a mountain of screw ups blocking everything. Even to this day. Infinite, from a outsiders pov as i no longer play, looks to still be disrespecting their remaining players. With the worst offender in my opinion being the store. They know people are more than upset. Yet instead of showing that they are sorry for the state of the franchise, they squeeze the remaining players for every scrap of cash they can with predatory tactics. And from my pov, this is very much "soul crushing". As cringe this is to say, halo is a very large part of my childhood so seeing it in this state is nothing but. Idk. Again, as ive said, im basically done with this franchise so i have no dogs in the fight. As long as 343i is at the helm, i will never interact with another product they have made. I have had 3years to think on this and my opinion has remained the same, but you never know. Maybe all of this is just confirmation bias and I may somehow be in the wrong with these beliefs. But so far, nothing has come close to changing my mind. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

They only forget to continue the cycle because of how legendary Bungie's Halo will forever remain.

How did they ruin the flood there was NO reason to bring them back since the chief activated halo. Now there is only a single flood form that has condor with slip space so they have reason and who made that lore drop??? 343

@@dodopro4433 The flood can still exist. After the forunners activated the halos, it didn't wipe out all life in the universe plus the flood as been testing other species that were outside the halos' firing range. Hell the flood said it will return when humanity is ripe. Mendicant bias (or was it Offensive bias) is trying to prepare humanity for what the forrunners faced and failed so yes the flood has a reason to come back: The Mantle of Responsibility but 343 won't even care to bother for the lore sadly.

343 is a worse treat than the Flood.

Agreed. The Flood migrated from another galaxy they had completely consumed, they weren't magical space dust some ancient spacefaring humans (that aren't Forerunner) fed to their fucking dogs.

@@dodopro4433You should actually play halo 3. “Like water I am, I ebb and flow”. Th grave mind literally says in halo 3 that he cannot be killed. The flood was not permanently killed off, it can’t be. It’d make perfect sense for the flood to return.

I could do without hearing HiddenXperia’s voice today thanks

@@JDotLoc why i know he is british lol and takes a lot of hopium but better then nothing

HaloFollower covered it

Lol Act Man sucks. I don't trust that guy when it comes to Halo when he was one of many content creators hyping this DOA game up.

@@user-wu5bm4ei9lHiddenxperia is also biased and i believe he gets paid by 343 to give Halo good PR

All that stuff was off screen, which is crazy to me. No Atriox, Didact, or Cortana.

And all we got were chummy joes.

Im not sure how people forgot this and nobody talks about it anymore. 20 minute rant about 343 and he didnt mention this. 343 warned us way back in the halo 4 concept days.

They really set the bar for remakes with the dead space 1 remake and resident evil remakes.

@@CaptainBloodsail yea man I’d say best remakes I’ve played were the mw2 remaster h2A and dead space 1

Halo 2 with the anniversary graphics and lost content is available in a better reality

"Understand this: the Mantle you have shouldered I do rescind - with far more consideration than it was granted." -Mendicant Bias (Frank O'Connor didn't write this and he didn't create the character of Mendicant Bias)

Reach weapons look good and the flood being the precursors is really cool to me, SOME of the expanded lore from 343 is good, but overall they have definitely taken halo in a terrible direction

I kinda agree. I will always love the franchise with all of my heart, but seeing 343 just use it to be petty and actively go out of their way to make bad games makes me just want the series to die. I’d rather the bungie era games be more of a cult classic type of thing than to see it become Medal of Honor or call of duty.

@@ethanhayes3474 Agreed man. It’s sad. I love Halo, it’s my childhood. But.. sometimes it’s better to let something you love die than to see it rot alive.

Hell no. We have the option to boycott 343 and get halo back, we are not letting halo die if we have any say in it.

@@yasininn76 We aren't getting Halo back. 343I cannot fucking cook worth shit!

I haven’t loved halo since reach. It’s upsetting

He was a fall guy, but also was useful at building hype. Players who didn’t like 343 games were willing to try infinite because joe was back.

Yeah...took them a 10000 years to make it to where we are.

Halo 4 was okey but 5 and infinite were trash (I did like the mutiplayer for 5 though)

sad thing is there are thousands of people who disagree and love 343 and buy 100s of dollars worth of shit from their store. I am hoping most of them are young kids who didn't get to play bungie games but I don't think so. Why people would like 343 after all the shit they have done is beyond me. Not even the shitty games. Just them in general. Lying straight to the communities face. Multiple, multiple times.

​@@rm25088People still fawn over Todd Howard even though practically everything he says on camera is a blatant lie.

​@@rm25088you know Bungie isn't any better than 343 these days lol

Yes 🙌

I think infinite is awesome besides the story being a little bland

@@ilbro7874 Other than the lack of weapons, Armor customization which used to suck now it sucks but less, colors being made purchasable, battle passes proving they falsely advertised about grinding being the way to get armor, Annoying AI that made Navi from TLOZ:OOT feel more reasonable, Story being a bootleg of Star Wars TLJ with it's beginning, and ending that did nothing to stop the ring from being repaired, utter character assassination of Chief, etc. It's about a 5/10 with firefight added to dull the blows a bit, otherwise 2/10.

That already happened, all the old interns, staff and leadership of 343 was fired and replaced, we just gotta see how good or bad the new team is with the new game. But as always halo fans not knowing any news of their "favorite" franchise, they just know hate news

@@kivinrepoio9288 I see, if they tryna reboot CE already as a new team then I can't trust em when they could add content to infinite, reinstate MCC for more updates like adding DigSite content officially as settings to each game with cut content, allow cut armor as customization for Halo 1 and enable the option to disable it in case you want the classic cosmetic experience, Add the e3 version of the battle rifle as a multiplayer weapon, etc. A new team takes it slow then goes big when they're ready, it's how BUNGIE succeeded.

Or at least old Bungie from 1998-2010. Some people misunderstand when we talk about Bungie doing things better and think we are talking about modern Bungie. The really sad part is not a single person who worked on Halo back then works at Bungie anymore. They are a completely different company from what they once were.

True ​@@dogwoodhillbilly

People gotta remember Old halo Bungie and New destiny Bungie ate almost completely different people. Theyre no more than same crews than 343 and bungie, og bungie are the talents that made the good halo games and the initial concept for destiny.

People still play the original Bungie games, don't know anyone who still boots up 4 or 5 to replay the campaign

3 bad games??? are you just another sheep like the rest??

Halo 4 had a good campaign, it gave a good ending to Cortana and expanded on Halo 3's MC characterization (I'd rather they just stopped there too but welp). Halo 5 atleast had a good multiplayer. Halo Infinite is... well atleast it had a good forge.

@@REALMARCHINADER halo 5’s multiplayer is so overrated in my opinion. Its a cod advanced warfare knockoff

@@fridaysatjons1097 I view it as the opposite. It's practically overhated due to how bad the campaign was. What's funny is that 90% of Halo fans who call the mp garbage never even played Halo 5. I'm not saying it's the best. Like you said it feels very COD like, but I feel like people get too hung up on that apsect when its sandbox is probably one of the biggest and most playgroundy Halo has ever gotten, especially in its forge maps. I genuinely like how H5 handled balancing, it felt like a case of everything being op thus nothing is. I prefer that to how Bungie balanced Reach.

@REALMARCHINADER 90% of Halo fans never played H5 MP. LOL bullshit. I played the multiplayer. It was trash then and it was trash now.

@blondfoss Did we really expect 343 Industries not to take the lazy route? They have never committed to a single Halo plotline in any game they have released. If Master Chief VS Atriox is resolved offscreen, I'm done with Halo for a VERY long time.

This is like the 30th leadership change. Halo has been dead since 2015 :(

Yeah I agree. It should RIP. We know nothing about pierre other than "leader of the MCC team". Oh great. That took years to become ehhh. He hasn't introduced himself or said anything. Not that I know of.

We need to give it to someone other than 343

@@INF2.160 Halo needs to be given to another developer straight up, no cap. Halo could have been laid to rest after Reach, as Bungie intended with dignity, and everything would have been fine, but now we have a decade of mediocre Halo to clean up.

Stay away from Halo Twitter. Too many delusional fanboys mostly the content creators defending 343 nonstop. I had to delete mine because I can't stand their braintot takes anymore.

@coffeeelk6364 I will say it forever, id Software is a natural choice to save Halo, there is ZERO possibility they wouldn't make an INCREDIBLE Halo experience!

I think this video tells the whole truth of what 343 has become. They betrayed us.

@@shadowninja1275 Has become? 343 Industries was engineered from the very start, to betray the Halo franchise from top to bottom.

Knowing the NPCs with the Spartan IV pfps. They are probably not taking it well.