Thank you, O Great Marty. Your music and contributions to Halo will always be remembered and missed. Wish we had you back. 🥲❤
@marcothomasflores78132 ай бұрын
Omg HiI! I've always loved your music! I miss the art you used to make with halo music 😓💙
@P1X3LShift2 ай бұрын
Marty!! Wish you were still working on Halo, your music was the best.
@clutchhaze10362 ай бұрын
Thank you for the best gaming music of all time Marty ❤
@idotclaves2 ай бұрын
the man himself
@SparrowEmpire2 ай бұрын
THEY NAMED THEIR STUDIO AFTER A CHARACTER THAT BETRAYS MASTER CHIEF. DO YOU GET IT YET?
@truson55642 ай бұрын
It's all making sense today 😂
@ProjectADAMAndroid2 ай бұрын
given the chance, they'd make halo just like the paramount show....
@ilbro78742 ай бұрын
Damn, i could only hope. That series was awesome@@ProjectADAMAndroid
@aeronautisch2 ай бұрын
Now yvo see...
@bubbajoe1172 ай бұрын
That’s an insult to guilty spark honestly, at least he has the justification of being driven mad by 100k years of isolation
@kimtongun36632 ай бұрын
The fact that 343 didn't include any of the original credits in the original trilogy speaks volumes about how this shitty company feels about Bungie!
@cybergames34362 ай бұрын
I NEVER thought about that...
@ItatsuMagnatsa2 ай бұрын
They were Angry that the Success of Bungie wasn't Their's. So they'll do everything in their Power to Destroy what we Love.
@BIGWojo682 ай бұрын
That's one of the very first things I've noticed when finishing the games. I said to myself, "Where the hell is the credits left by Bungie?" That just shows you how jealous 343 was of Bungie.
@cuttingcrew50842 ай бұрын
They also removed the post credits scene from halo 1
@thatoneguy34082 ай бұрын
It really sucks when you look at the ending of Halo Reach in MCC and see that they removed and ended the final cutscene just before the love letter to the fans from bungie appears. That just feels like a punch to the gut and slap to the face to me. Not only are you removing something (media preservation) but it was also something to show love to the fans (fuck the fans) It was a generally harmless thing too
@pododododoehoh35502 ай бұрын
The fact this studio hasnt been shuttered in a time of mass studio shutdowns, after more than a decade of failure and abuse is wild
@Vendetta162X16 күн бұрын
Says a LOT about Microsoft (as a video gaming brand)...still greedy and don't care about their customers
@suntzu61229 күн бұрын
Even bungie was dogshxt at making halo games.
@SilverSabawАй бұрын
I'm 18 and I grew up poor. My grandad was a gamer, he had an original Xbox which he gave to me some months before he passed. Halo 2 was the first video game I ever touched. By that point, Halo 5 was the most recent Halo game. I played 2 and CE on that old Xbox, got a 360 for Christmas, then played 3, ODST, and Reach. I was a bit too late to play the old Halo multiplayer but I am glad I experienced the campaign when I did. 343 is vile for what they've done to this franchise.
@pasqualezarro5216Ай бұрын
I'll just say I was 13 in 2007, and to read this post makes me happy in a way I didn't know I could be.
@SgtFurby20 күн бұрын
@@pasqualezarro5216 1994 squad
@Zargabaath16 күн бұрын
Jesus christ I just realized how good we had it. I was 13 in 07 as well. We had CoD 4 and Halo 3 to choose from. The literal saints of modern gaming. The entire library of the 360 was pure gold. Been gaming on PC since 2015, but I'd give anything to go back.
@JohnDoeWasntTaken12 күн бұрын
@@Zargabaath I discovered MW2 and Halo Reach when I was 11, rarely played multiplayer because XBLive costs money and we were broke. Still miss those days, same as you I started gaming on PC in 2015. As many things in my life that are far better now than they were then, I still want to go back for some reason.
@TwinkleHue3 күн бұрын
I didn't play the Halo FPS til 2013/14 with ODST as my first. Never had internet on my 360, but between the excellent story, atmosphere and Firefight, I was entranced by the Halo 3 multiplayer maps soloing running around. Bought rest of the series on 360 in 2014. 10 years later after getting Reach, Inheritor rank achievee offline.
@invade602 ай бұрын
the "fire 343" people were right
@tyvernoverlord53632 ай бұрын
We were ALWAYS right
@Snipes.Apollo2 ай бұрын
Which is sad because it's not like we wanted to say bad things on everything 343 industries does, it's just that it was genuinely that bad. There was a certain point we probably could have fixed 343I but I firmly believe that time has passed. Each failure only means that their next hit "has to be a success" and what happens when it isn't because it took steps back compared to the original formula and barely had any actual hard work put into it? We get Halo:Infinite, a game where you could see the soul being ripped out of it in real time. They cancelled development of MCC to have the guy who made it great try and make their next product great, but realistically they should have just let him cook. If the legacy games had their flaws ironed out Halo would have a dedicated MCC community. I imagine the reason they still have some of the talented voice actord is to prevent talented people from releasing better products with voice acting because it would just destroy anything they've made and they know it. I'm someone who gave Halo 5 a chance and only liked it because it was the last halo game to have hit detection that met my standards.
@HeyShotgun2 ай бұрын
See . That’s where you’re almost right. The old “ management “ as in frank O’Connor, Bonnie Ross and Kiki wolfkill, we’re all leads at 343 industries. The mcc lead developer and support leader , was then prompted to the director of 343 industries. There fore you’re almost right and I also think this video is a bit click baiting. But none the less I find it’s been 10 years. I don’t believe they would flip a switch just to please us bungie fans. 1 . I actually think the modern controls …” sprint “ is actually good in halo. I’m happy it’s in . 2. I love bungie but the now bungie that’s owned by Sony would never be able to make halo the same . They’re not the same bungie at all now .
@TheStrayHALOMAN2 ай бұрын
Have been for a decade.
@abyssal-labs2 ай бұрын
Of course we were right I always said 343 hated halo and 3 bad games and a shit tv show proves it plus the firing of legends who helped made the game
@firestarter64882 ай бұрын
I feel honored to have been banned off of Waypoint for calling these clowns out back when MCC first bombed us on Xbone.
@miller422 ай бұрын
They've banned me from their Steam forums, lol.
@BlazeHound2 ай бұрын
I was banned from the Halo Discord Feb 2023 for calling them clowns. Changed my name to "343 Industries" or something, put a clown as my profile picture, and wrote in my bio about being clowns and incompetent and such. They weren't too happy about that.
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
sad the clown car you probably used didn’t get to a final stop@@BlazeHound
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
Lowlife
@Neoniq412 ай бұрын
They've banned me from the steam forums, cuz I called em out for being a bunch of cowards lmao.
@dakotastrout17332 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that when they were hiring for halo 4 they mentioned they went out of their way to hire people that didn't like halo.
@jamesquinn6662Ай бұрын
Imagine running a bakery amd hiring someone who hates brownies to make your brownies more appealing to people who were never going to buy brownies. The 2010s era of game design just went fucking nuts
@danielmejia8103Ай бұрын
That should have been the warning we ALL should have heeded.
@danielmejia8103Ай бұрын
Like a video game corporate version of the attack on Pearl Harbor. There were warnings, but no one heeded them until it was too late... s
@Gnurklesquimp2Ай бұрын
That was the moment I said goodbye to Halo
@redslateАй бұрын
@danielmejia8103 No, there were definitely those of us that recognized the signs and even pointed them out, but blind fanboys turned to denial and gaslighting.
@ZenkaiGoose2 ай бұрын
I dont know how you treat people who literally pushed the entire gaming industry forward 3 times in a row with such disrespect. It's pretty lame. Great video dude
@LBBubba2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Those are my exact thoughts too. They should be honored to have the original creators applying for jobs there, but instead they’re somehow looking down upon them. It’s just wrong…
@RusticRonnieАй бұрын
3 times? Bungie made marathon which was the FIRST FPS that allowed players to look up. The marathon series (not the reboot) pushed the industry forward 3 times! Halo did it 4 more times. And destiny also did it. Though… not for the better live service games suck. But Bungie is probably the most important FPS studio ever
@TRDiscordian11 күн бұрын
@@RusticRonnieMaybe a hot take but I think Halo/CoD homegenized FPS games and crushed out diverse games like 007/Perfect Dark style shooters, and Unreal (before Tournament). They're all "you get 2 guns and some objectives". Yes I think Halo is wonderful, but I don't think we'd be worse off without Halo either. The FPS landscape would be completely (possibly unpredictably) different. Also I thought Duke Nukem was the first FPS to let us look up so thanks for that fun fact. Edit: Also Destiny 2 (haven't played 1) is one of the most mindless "pew pew walk forward" games I've ever played. Hardly a comparison of pushing anything forward..
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
4 times Bungie pushed the gaming industry forward, your forgetting Halo Reach.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
@@RusticRonnie Valve and id Software are just as important if not moreso to the FPS genre as a whole than Bungie.
@osirisjojo68762 ай бұрын
So 343 is destroying the franchise on purpose because of pettiness. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but no more. Keep 343 away from Halo for good
@revan52932 ай бұрын
Fire343
@BatMan-xe1vt2 ай бұрын
I'm to the point that I think 343 should be turned into a satellite studio and force them to do maps and skin netcode for other games. Never to make or to work on their own games ever again. Yes, I am that petty
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
Sad we can’t take the air card from you for good
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
Can we do that this you @@revan5293
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
I think the saddest thing is @@BatMan-xe1vtis that all pettiness shows is how useless someone can be
@vplasmatm2 ай бұрын
I cannot believe people are still even remotely hyped for anything Halo related with 343 at the helm. It is GUARANTEED to be a disaster
@rm250882 ай бұрын
100&. I didn't get hyped for infinite at all while all the halo content creators were creaming their pants. I wonder why that was. Perhaps a little paid vacation to 343 industries and a little bribe on the side? Who knows.
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
@@rm25088Halo Content Creators are know as the "Forerunners" or as the "Shillrunners" as I like to call em. Apparently their names are in the staff community section of Halo Infinites staff credits. Plus they did went to 343 numerous amounts of times even Ubernick admitted he went to 343 to try out infinite and ended up having a fake reaction towards the 2020 gameplay trailer.
@rm250882 ай бұрын
@@EvilPhoenix007 I remember hearing about that. I can't stand Ubernick. Hypes up everything to the max. The shillrunners is more like it. It is really unfair to promote a trash game and hype it up like they do. They will do it again as soon as Halo 7 comes around and I will laugh at them.
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
@@rm25088They should be documented for future references. Something that should have happened back in 2012 when these guys were teenagers licking 343s boots.
@vplasmatm2 ай бұрын
People like Favyn would shit talk infinite and speculate on things like Sprint - despite literally playing it before those videos meaning he was not only shilling to his audience but lying to them as well lmfao All of the Forerunners would pretend like they were seeing everything for the first time when in reality they knew what we were getting months or even years in advance. So stupid
@MrNotSpecified01Ай бұрын
343 Has been making Halo games longer than Bungie at this point. I don't know why Microsoft didn't detonate the studio after Halo Infinite's reception, but there is absolutely no way they can mess up the remake/remaster and still exist after that, regardless of who is in charge or who was responsible. The name of 343 industries is inexorably tainted.
@suntzu61229 күн бұрын
List of good halo games Bungie and 343 made after November 10, 2004: (none)
@Grim327Ай бұрын
“No bungie people” when there hasn’t been a good halo since bungie…
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
343 Industries needs to start worshipping everything Bungie as the GOLD STANDARD, if they want anyone at all to care about their next Halo games.
@UndeadCustodian2 ай бұрын
"You are the child of my Makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!" fits both the company and the ai
@rm250882 ай бұрын
wow yes it does
@rm250882 ай бұрын
@Jeepon35s did 343 do something stupid and don't consider humans forerunners anymore? i dont know much about lore
@rm250882 ай бұрын
@Jeepon35s I have heard about 343 fucking the low all up. I wish they never touched Halo.
@whydidimakethis111Ай бұрын
@@rm25088 There's a good video (long but full of detail) from C3 Sabertooth about how humans being Forerunner was 100% Bungie's intention and 343i (aka Frank O' Connor) royally messed it up and retconned it. It's called Halo: We WERE Forerunner! and a good watch. Makes me hate 343 even more tbh.
@rm25088Ай бұрын
@@whydidimakethis111 I'll check it out when I get home for sure
@Neoniq412 ай бұрын
Remember guys, you can never hate 343 enough.
@one1blood278Ай бұрын
fr
@CommanderRedEXEАй бұрын
Hate Microsoft. They refused to let 343 contact the OG Halo devs at all. According to the OGs themselves.
@MAJ4KАй бұрын
I've reached the peak and I've found another mountain to climb. Microsoft hasn't made a good decision (that wasn't walking back a bad decision) since windows 8 Edit: Windows 7, I realized how it sounds.
@MAJ4KАй бұрын
@user-fm4ux1gg1x no, I fixed my comment
@Rope25728 күн бұрын
Bro, I stopped playing halo after halo 4. Everybody else just kept buying their shit. 😆
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces2 ай бұрын
I’m starting to understand how the creative decisions on the Halo show were approved when 343 had oversight and involvement.
@WaveOfDestinyАй бұрын
"you are just a Bungie fanboy it's just nostalgia glasses" MY ASS
@WuunderboyАй бұрын
THANK YOU!!! for years I heard idiotic kids saying this to me. I was a teenager in 2014 and I remember them all saying this to me. Now we get the last laugh and can say I TOLD YOU SO!
@TelyemaАй бұрын
its not nostalgia, i ran a friend through 3 and reach (he said he only played infinite which shattered my soul) and it was the most fun ive had in a while
@Gnurklesquimp2Ай бұрын
People saying this are just being lazily dismissive and down right delusional in the face of a legendary legacy
@redslateАй бұрын
A decade of gaslighting.
@OmegaF77Ай бұрын
"Well you can forget about your A2 scope...."
@toadrancher73072 ай бұрын
nobody should be surprised, I still vividly remember early interviews of 343 before they started working on Halo. 4. were they bragged that they hired people who hated Halo.
@EvilPhoenix007Ай бұрын
I remember those interviews too and they were on the Halo Waypoint 360 app where the app wasn't very well known back then. Its a shame no one saved those videos because some idiots in the Halo Community thinks its a false narrative.
@toadrancher7307Ай бұрын
@@EvilPhoenix007 I think crowbcat has clips in some of his 343 videos of them saying that, great channel
@mthequietbass54715 күн бұрын
I want to say they talked about how they wish halo was more call of duty in those interviews as well
@condsy2 ай бұрын
The squidward burnout edit was a lil too relatable
@ryuharuentertainment89572 ай бұрын
Same
@LBBubba2 ай бұрын
Loooool 😅 I’m glad it connected with you, I thought the SpongeBob analogies I was showing were actually pretty spot-on, hah
@cooliipie2 ай бұрын
Too real
@TaylorWilmesАй бұрын
No, I love halo gameplay.
@aquabay18 күн бұрын
This hit too hard with how I feel about playing the game rn.
@sofaking16272 ай бұрын
Bout fucking time everyone else caught up. 343 has always been, and will always be, the enemy of anyone and everyone who loved Halo between 2001-2011
@amharbinger28 күн бұрын
Halo died after Reach
@ElectronicWitchcraft25 күн бұрын
Reach killed Halo. It was made under contractual obligation to Ms and was used by Bungie as road test for what would become Destiny. All the new additions that Reach introduced, steered Halo into what it became. Halo 1-ODST’s core gameplay loop was based on the trifecta of guns, grenades and melee. Yes, 3 introduced equipment but this didn’t fundamentally change that core loop.
@scrittle17 күн бұрын
Spending countless hours in Reach and Halo 4, I strongly prefer Reach over 4 and past releases. Controversial I know, but I had a hard time getting into 3, the movement and tiny maps were a pain to traverse. Reach added more cover, extra movement and a far better story. CE was ok I guess.
@suntzu61229 күн бұрын
Reach was the worst halo game ever made, hands down, bar none, not close; and OBJECTIVELY speaking. you would understand this fact if you were old enough to have even played 1 good halo game. Youve probably spent ZERO MINUTES playing halo 2 on ORIGINAL XBOX competitively. AKA your opinion means dxck.
@scrittle9 күн бұрын
@@suntzu6122 * gasp * An opinion standing as juxtaposition to my own! Ohhh I should be so cross right now! But nah ur probably right, I can't retroactively visit the past and play the glory days with you, I plain found Reach's story captivating even if it presented a debilitating precedent that every Halo game to follow had to prioritise cinematics over gameplay.
@suntzu61228 күн бұрын
@@scrittle talking more about mp anyway. And comp halo. MP halo was ruined in reach. They literally fxcked up every single core game mechanic.
@EliteInExile2 ай бұрын
The fact that there's rumors of Halo CE being remade on top of whatever the hell this is, solidifies the fact that 343 wants to erase the legacy that Bungie made.
@JohnDoeWasntTaken12 күн бұрын
Why are they even remaking it when CE anniversary already exists? Not that anniversary is a very good version, Halo CE is literally #1 on the list of games that shouldn't be remade. At least not by those fools at 343. I'm a graphics snob yet I still play CE in the OG graphics mode on PC and it looks beautiful. Art style always trumps raw visual fidelity.
@halo09112 күн бұрын
@@JohnDoeWasntTakenclassic halo ce is better, the qhile reason people still play classic is because it is the way it is
@JohnDoeWasntTaken12 күн бұрын
@@halo091 Yeah I meant to say CE anniversary mode isn't a good version so Imma edit it. But yeah I agree, that's why I play in classic mode even though I'm a snob for graphics in other games.
@dum5247Ай бұрын
Remember, the only language corporations listen to is money: don’t buy their products, do not promote them, do not even give them the attention that could have others buy this heresy to the Halo IP. If Halo is going to die, better that it does with an honorable legacy than with whatever soulless corporate greed 343 wants to add.
@MAWKY_MAWKАй бұрын
This is absolutely ridiculous! I'm tired of 343's "Halo."
@fridaysatjons10972 ай бұрын
3 steps forward 43 steps backward. The worst developers in gaming.
@idotclaves2 ай бұрын
thats basically most devs nowadays
@HaileyEira2 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering my post. I'll be sharing more info about Joe Staten and Paul Bertone on Twitter soon. The way the OG creators of Halo have been treated by Microsoft and 343 is really unfair, and everyone should know the truth. 💔
@LBBubba2 ай бұрын
You drop some of the most alarming stories about 343 and Bungie, this was something people needed to see. I’m surprised others aren’t talking about it much or at all, it’s sad that something so ridiculous can be slid under the rug… The information is out there (I didn’t show some of the sources of what you said, they’re public anyway), but people still refuse to accept it, it’s a shame. Looking forward to your next info drop though! 🔥
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that you are focusing solely and heavily on 343 and not so much on MS and old (maybe even some new) management. While I won’t sit here and say anything you’ve said isn’t probably true, there’s far more to be said on the matter that I’ve seen so far from you. For example, why weren’t the old leadership changed out early on for not allowing the old Bungie employees who could have at least helped things go on, why weren’t MS/Xbox doing anything about the company when their first game wasn't up to what they had hoped for, and why were there problems like this to begin with inside the studio that could have made Xbox and Halo worthy of a fight? Overall, while I do have high points for your post that I like, I think over all, your presentation and attitude towards the subject were very one-sided and heated, even with valid everything but something to show. You are definitely a great inside reporter, but the lack of cool-minded thinking definitely doesn't give me much desire to look into your stuff. I hope you understand and have a good day.
@TheBluetiger52 ай бұрын
I wish I could do more to help but I'm doing everything I can with my new friend @RedSentimentFilms to bring this stuff to light but I wish I could do a video interview with the OG Bungie devs, your Contacts within Microsoft and 343I and show the world what's been going on for the past 13 years.
@rm250882 ай бұрын
Well the reason why no one is talking about it is because all the big halo content creators like Hiddenexperia, the act man, and all the others were invited to 343 industries and everything was paid for. I think even general heed was invited and he hardly does infinite videos and never says anytthing about the game. But I may be wrong. I bet it was to bribe them to only speak positive of the games and them in general. sure, they may say some stuff about the store and stuff but it is never anything extremely serious. I now can't take anything any of them say seriously. It was mighty suspicious that they were all invited there.
@Clockwork0nions2 ай бұрын
Just wanna say you’re based. From someone on the inside.
@thomasabbottjr23 күн бұрын
Halo has been destroyed. Microsoft closes tons of studios and keeps 343? Absolute joke.
@HateMachinist28 күн бұрын
The Bald man brought me here. Bad devs should be fired, not kept on life-support for failure after failure....
@LuX45652 ай бұрын
Seeing the co-creator of Halo like her post confirmed 343 fired Joe. I'm really glad this girl revealed all this. It needs to be shared everywhere. It's like every year gives us more reasons to dislike 343. Why did Halo have to fall into the hands of such awful people? And why does their community team never face any consequences? I'm just exhausted from watching my favorite franchise get ruined for ten years in a row.
@riddell262 ай бұрын
Lol Destiny called
@yomama91962 ай бұрын
i’m here with you brother. hate seeing so many bad choices they’ve made. i love halo.
@P1X3LShift2 ай бұрын
I feel you man. The part that annoyed me the most is how they kept Paul Russel waiting in the parking lot for an hour and then didn't call back after they told him they would. And I can't stand that 343 hired Haruspis. It's unbelievable how Halo ended up with such a crappy team of people.
@lilkris30082 ай бұрын
@@riddell26literally idk why people act like bungie was going to stay the same small dev team that lived and breathed halo. They asked to leave to make destiny and it sucks as much as any of the modern halos. I’d take doing an hour in 5 vs destiny 2 any day. The game development landscape is just not the same none of these companies are going to make the game you want with an IP like halo
@bensadfleck99722 ай бұрын
Really feel bad for Marcus Lehto. How terrible do you think his experience was with EA to the point of leaving the company and retire from game development?
@dfrost63822 ай бұрын
It doesnt help that the mass majority of halo content creators countiously lick 343s boots, everytime something bad happens they talk about it and next week its like it never happened, its always "WOOWAAAHHHH LOOK GUYS NEW HALO NEWS" like bro this studio has single handedly taken this industry juggernaut and made it into a joke
@jinmori27352 ай бұрын
Yo literally, they thirsty as fuck for halo and that desperate for some halo D that they rather have a shit company make it 😂😂
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
Halo Content creators have been like that for years. I'm so glad people have woken up to their BS like I have when it came to their Halo 5 videos and the bs they used to spew out back then.
@jacobstamm28 күн бұрын
I audibly laughed when Ryan MacCaffrey’s tweet said that CE was remastered “very well”. There’s no way he actually believes that.
@Steelface97Ай бұрын
I used to think 343 were just a bunch of incompetent old board members who don't know what Halo is and want to just capitalize on profits, game be damned. Now I see they're angry little assholes who want to destroy Halo and its namesake just because Bungie made it, and we the fans prefer their version of Halo to 343's.
@nrkurbanspawn4391Ай бұрын
Always said 343i is the downfall of Halo...all the disrespect toward Bungie OG and the Community..
@nrkurbanspawn4391Ай бұрын
Miss old Halo days...Im OG Bungie fan from CE, left halfway Halo 4 campaign...(Cortana Death..)Played Infinit Campaign, grapple was cool but yeah...Halo is not the same since 343i took over ..😢
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
I knew 343 Industries was the doom of Halo the second I played Halo 4 and HATED it immediately.
@supersnow172 ай бұрын
Remember when 343 called fans entitled for wanting a product to work at launch? (MCC launch). Remember when 343 devs openly admitted to stealing ideas (like ground pound) from other games? Remember how they openly lied about Halo 5? I mean seriously, any one of these would have any other studio in hot water for eternity, but 343 does it and everyone acts like it's no big deal. I'm sick of 343 and Microsoft. It all went downhill when 4 launched.
@suntzu61229 күн бұрын
Halo was dead long before 343 even touched it.
@supersnow178 күн бұрын
@@suntzu6122 No it was far from it, nice try.
@suntzu61228 күн бұрын
@@supersnow17 lol? How old are you? Downhill when 4 launched? Reach had random primary weapons lmaoooo. Mini nuke nades. And no bleed melee that removed shooting from being viable at a certain range that noone actually knew or could learn because sprinting into bullets to double derp someone killed faster. Not to mention armor lock and jet pack which were obv mistakes. Then when they "fix" the dmr it deleted 80% of the sandbox from being viable. All 100% on bungie. Their flagship sending off halo game was DOGSHXT. Unless ofc youre a zombie fanboy who is too r3tarded to notice these things. Theres basically a 100% chance you never played a good halo game in your life.
@holaaamannn2 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember before Halo 5 came out 343 posted a cartoon talking about Halo 5's Warzone and REQ packs (pay to win) system? At one point in the video they have a character say "But won't paid weapons affect the balance of the game?" to which the narrator says "Shut your piehole. The adults are talking." Anyone remember that? They probably deleted it but I have it saved.
@RW-li2im2 ай бұрын
Nope! It’s still up on KZfaq on the official Xbox KZfaq account. I wish more people remembered that one, 343 set the tone early on and haven’t changed since.
@liquidsweg4858Ай бұрын
Remember the vid of the devs getting so excited seeing the demo of the lootbox?
@RyzardАй бұрын
@@RW-li2im What is it called?
@trungussАй бұрын
@@RW-li2im What's called? Need it alol
@launcherx2044Ай бұрын
@@Ryzard req system tutorial, its insane that its still up
@Daggy3D28 күн бұрын
I will never touch a halo game made by 343 ever again. Fuckem.
@suntzu61229 күн бұрын
Tried infinite for 1 hour. Couldnt figure out why it felt like shxt. Then it hit me. The strafe speed. 80% left/right strafe. LOL what in the FXCK??????
@tenderquirkydragon86432 ай бұрын
It's ironic how the company partially named after one of Halo's villains is now tearing the series apart
@SparrowEmpire2 ай бұрын
Please don't let 343/MS touch HCE-H3 anymore. Please don't let them touch Halo anymore.
@sword_racer1852 ай бұрын
Bungie ain't much better rn if not worse.
@SparrowEmpire2 ай бұрын
@@sword_racer185 What and how Bungie is doing today is not relevant though.
@emperortethysusdacertified81752 ай бұрын
@@SparrowEmpireTbf most of the original people behind Bungie-era Halo aren't part of modern Bungie.
@SparrowEmpire2 ай бұрын
@@emperortethysusdacertified8175 Yes. But what does that have to do with anything?
@emperortethysusdacertified81752 ай бұрын
@@SparrowEmpire Oh, I meant for that to be a response to the other guy, sorry.
@awesomeplayerAP2 ай бұрын
343i has a "Sorry, no Bungie people." mindset? Well now I have a "Sorry, no 343i people" mindset, as long as they have a part to play in Halo, I'm out, I'm not coming back until change is made, until then👋
@idotclaves2 ай бұрын
bro really thought he did something
@revan52932 ай бұрын
This. I 1000% percent agree. Fire343. they killed my love for halo. I will pop champagne the day they get fired
@cooliipie2 ай бұрын
343 killed halo and Xbox
@WuunderboyАй бұрын
@cooliipie they 100% did and I've been trying to tell people since 2014... I was 19 at the time and no one believed me.. now I'm a man and no longer care about the game I grew up with sadly
@agentoranj5858Ай бұрын
>343i >people pick one
@spiritfox6066Ай бұрын
Steve Downes, Jen Taylor and Jeff Steitzer ARE Halo! You can't just replace them.
@Dredd-MauАй бұрын
The fact MCC to this day still pulls greater numbers than Infinite says everything you need to know not only about Infinite, but of 343 Industries.
@diversity74862 ай бұрын
Don't let them cook...
@ParaplegicKeanuReeves2 ай бұрын
Stop people from using "cook" as a replacement for what we actually mean.....
@connorpayton6082 ай бұрын
@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves don't let them burn Halo even more
@silencedmaxim58892 ай бұрын
@@connorpayton608 too many words, will cook instead.
@Aviatoer81722 ай бұрын
sad it ain’t you @@connorpayton608
@keanuxu54352 ай бұрын
343 cooked, burned down the house, and now Halo is a homeless mess who is on the street begging for microtransactions by shaking his red solo cup for change.
@z3roone4172 ай бұрын
honestly I always gave 343 the benefit of doubt , because I wanted to be fair. But the "No Bungie people" really pissed me off. 343 has to go .
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu2 ай бұрын
The only room really left for any benefit of the doubt would be if that was all pre-Pierre Hintz management, and he can course-correct by hiring some OG Bungie alumni.
@oliverjackson5973Ай бұрын
People like you with your years of inaction are the reason 343 has been left to burn this franchise to the ground for more than a decade. Finally coming around after it's too late
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNickedАй бұрын
@@oliverjackson5973 "Inaction". And what exactly do you suppose he should've done? I can't see you contributing to any changes with your loud screeching.
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNickedАй бұрын
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu You're deluding yourself if you think that'll happen.
@oliverjackson5973Ай бұрын
@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked Because if there’s not unity in the fan base then nothing gets done. There’s been a segment of 343 D riders making excuses for over a decade that’s allowed this to happen
@RadicalEdward22 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for years. The split between Bungie/343 is like that episode of Hey Arnold where Dino Spamoni and his songwriter split. Together they’re a powerhouse but the moment they split, it became more and more apart that they struggled without each other. They had their strengths and weaknesses. Dino had the voice but couldn’t come up with lyrics to save his life. His songwriter could make songs but, he couldn’t sing to save his life. 343 made the funny memes and made the wilder concept to mix things up while Bungie wrote the story, filtered out weirder concepts, and kept the gameplay and art direction consistent. Where the cartoon differs from the situation is that amends were never made and the situation kept spiraling out of control.
@RadicalEdward22 ай бұрын
Even though I wanted them to reunite, the no Bungie policy sounds like a petty thing 343 WOULD do. Have you guys noticed that everything leading upto now is as goofy as old Bungie community posts? Remember the pizza skin for the assault rifle? The grunt mech? Adding Conan? Oonsk? Fronk the fish? I genuinely believe that the more goofy/childish people stayed with Halo while the ones that wanted to grow and explore went to work on Destiny. While I’m not saying Destiny was all bad, remember how stale and lacking of comedic moments Destiny 1 was? There’s a good chance that all the jokers stayed with 343 hence why 343 struggles so hard to world build and story write. Remember, they didn’t come up with WHY John got a new suit. Their explanation was nanomachines. They tried to put story second and the flashy gameplay first but after time, they ran out of ways to improvise until the community started to take notice and saw through it. ODST won’t get a sequel because it was Bungie’s idea and a testbed for how Destiny’s open world could have worked. Destiny was even teased in ODST. And when it comes to Infinite, 343 banked on nostalgia by making everything Reach-like with the armor to pander to nostalgia because it was their last real high point. They don’t do anything anymore with pre-Reach content or actual Reach content because they probably don’t know how. The moment Halo 5 beta came out, I realized it wasn’t Halo anymore. And let’s not forget how the ENTIRE art direction changed with 4 to distance itself from Bungie.
@Holy_Moly692 ай бұрын
The "no bungie people" thing was the nail in the coffin for me, what a disgusting company.
@sp4cepigz1742 ай бұрын
Halo went to some arrogant assholes who are backed by daddy’s money… halo was the most humble game I’ve ever played if that makes sense the new ones feel soulless
@goldntickt6142 ай бұрын
makes too much sense tbh
@kingdoge692 ай бұрын
You can tell bungie put their heart and soul into their halo games compared to 343’s halo games
@gavinfreenone66262 ай бұрын
@@kingdoge69during an age where this stuff was relatively new and hobby like it makes sense. Its unfortunate how compromised it's become to corporate manipulation but its such a fascinating thing that it was pretty much inevitable, same as the fall of Halo I feel. When we look at the kind of people who've infiltrated the hobby and want to use it as a puppet for their own gain, everything makes sense
@TelyemaАй бұрын
@@kingdoge69 fun fact, bungie rebuilt there entire engine and literally put there everything into a game thats existance was originally defined by contractual obligation, they only made that gane because they HAD TO and it was still a million times better than the soulless slop that 343 has made
@GrenadeMcStickiАй бұрын
Their motto was literally for gamers by gamers!
@BHill-qi6rn2 ай бұрын
And i hate to say this, but i honestly can't wait till the day comes when Microsoft dissolves 343, and hands off the reigns of Halo to some other talented less greedy studio
@revan52932 ай бұрын
And I will pop champagne when that happens
@OptionallySavage2 ай бұрын
Raven software. That's objectively the correct choice.
@ELIZABETHMARLONE20052 ай бұрын
You do realise they already rebooted the studio it's got new people running it now
@pododododoehoh35502 ай бұрын
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005And its still 90% of the same turds, and has failed to do anything positive with infinite in the year they've had with it.
@kx750018 күн бұрын
I can’t wait until Microsoft dissolves
@AardvarkPaysOffАй бұрын
That line in Crowbcat's video that goes: "They hired people that hated Halo to make Halo" aged like fine wine
@cleanerben9636Ай бұрын
lets also not forget that anniversary collection was completely broken for many years with all sorts of bugs.
@kx750018 күн бұрын
Also they’re not very faithful to the originals particularly ce anniversary
@Freelink1172 ай бұрын
I've been saying it since H4. 343 has no idea what they're doing. They've had their chance, dissolve that POS studio and give it to devs who actually CARE.
@zimmy91Ай бұрын
H4 and the reach takover left a bad taste in my mouth. Then the they force-fed their bullshit with 5 and infinite. They suck man.
@CaptPatrick012 ай бұрын
Should've been 343 that got shut down instead of Tango.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
Fuck Microsoft shutting down Tango and not 343 Industries, what absolute STUPIDITY.
@MrNotSpecified01Ай бұрын
I'm so tired bros... I don't even know how I'm still able to care about Halo after so many failures...
@EvilPhoenix007Ай бұрын
I stopped caring all together. And recently I deleted my Xwitter account due to the fact 343 fanboys on that hellhole are so thin-skinned they can't handle 343 criticisms and get absolutely butthurt that they delude themselves even further.
@rejectscorner993924 күн бұрын
@@EvilPhoenix007343 ruined halo
@kingemmoden214Ай бұрын
Halo 1 Anniversary, Halo 4, Launch Halo MCC, Halo 5, and Halo Infinite have all had massive problems. Maybe a few years ago I would be mad at 343 rebooting the series, but I honestly don't care anymore. If they mess up for the 6th time it would probably fall in line with peoples expectations
@Itz2Cat2 ай бұрын
Seeing people fight tooth and nail to defend 343 is the part thats just soul crushing. You can like the new halo games, but to ignore or even fight against the issues that 343 have created is just... idk. The halo franchise is probably the biggest fall from grace in gaming history. The situation we are in now, almost seems like sabotage. I hope that some day i may have a platform to vent all the frustrations that i have as no other game or company has made me so genuinely upset. And to this day, 14 years later, nothing has gotten better. Its only gotten worse. 1 step forwards 4 steps back. As always... But when the new halo is announced, and the devils three number company displays their mark on your screen, you know most people will forget all the things they have done in the past. And the cycle continues.
@Itz2Cat2 ай бұрын
But then again what do i care. I havnt played a halo game in nearly 2 years
@dogwoodhillbilly2 ай бұрын
Lol, it's 343. More like 3 steps forward and 43 steps back.
@botpenn4672Ай бұрын
it's not "soul-crushing", it's nuanced discussion. we need a few devil's advocates to point out the stuff we don't usually think about. of course, the 343i defenders need to make actual arguments first
@Itz2CatАй бұрын
@@botpenn4672 100% i agree about having an opposing argument so you can challenge your own beliefs. But i disagree that it is "few". From what i have seen, its the majority, as from my experience, the fans that still had hope, have now given up and left. Just like me. But in this case, i dont think a lot of arguments in support of 343 are rational or logical, as the incomprehensible stack of mistakes that 343 have made far outweigh the positives and, at least in my opinion, it is time for change. Not excusing, praising or defending them because of something good they have done while there is a mountain of screw ups blocking everything. Even to this day. Infinite, from a outsiders pov as i no longer play, looks to still be disrespecting their remaining players. With the worst offender in my opinion being the store. They know people are more than upset. Yet instead of showing that they are sorry for the state of the franchise, they squeeze the remaining players for every scrap of cash they can with predatory tactics. And from my pov, this is very much "soul crushing". As cringe this is to say, halo is a very large part of my childhood so seeing it in this state is nothing but. Idk. Again, as ive said, im basically done with this franchise so i have no dogs in the fight. As long as 343i is at the helm, i will never interact with another product they have made. I have had 3years to think on this and my opinion has remained the same, but you never know. Maybe all of this is just confirmation bias and I may somehow be in the wrong with these beliefs. But so far, nothing has come close to changing my mind. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
They only forget to continue the cycle because of how legendary Bungie's Halo will forever remain.
@Sunnyside8452 ай бұрын
343 ruined Halo and the Flood!
@dodopro44332 ай бұрын
How did they ruin the flood there was NO reason to bring them back since the chief activated halo. Now there is only a single flood form that has condor with slip space so they have reason and who made that lore drop??? 343
@osirisjojo68762 ай бұрын
@@dodopro4433 The flood can still exist. After the forunners activated the halos, it didn't wipe out all life in the universe plus the flood as been testing other species that were outside the halos' firing range. Hell the flood said it will return when humanity is ripe. Mendicant bias (or was it Offensive bias) is trying to prepare humanity for what the forrunners faced and failed so yes the flood has a reason to come back: The Mantle of Responsibility but 343 won't even care to bother for the lore sadly.
@YnossZaperator2 ай бұрын
343 is a worse treat than the Flood.
@nagger82162 ай бұрын
Agreed. The Flood migrated from another galaxy they had completely consumed, they weren't magical space dust some ancient spacefaring humans (that aren't Forerunner) fed to their fucking dogs.
@EggEnjoyer2 ай бұрын
@@dodopro4433You should actually play halo 3. “Like water I am, I ebb and flow”. Th grave mind literally says in halo 3 that he cannot be killed. The flood was not permanently killed off, it can’t be. It’d make perfect sense for the flood to return.
@westsideisdabest7825Ай бұрын
Please can 343 just go away already. Please pass the franchise on
@Dicer3282 ай бұрын
343i is without a doubt the worst game studio of all time. Total disgrace. No excuses, they suck.
@CK-19actual2 ай бұрын
We need more voices talking about this. HiddenX, Act Man, Etc.
@JDotLoc2 ай бұрын
I could do without hearing HiddenXperia’s voice today thanks
@user-wu5bm4ei9l2 ай бұрын
@@JDotLoc why i know he is british lol and takes a lot of hopium but better then nothing
@Aether-Entropy2 ай бұрын
HaloFollower covered it
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
Lol Act Man sucks. I don't trust that guy when it comes to Halo when he was one of many content creators hyping this DOA game up.
@deafbyhiphop2 ай бұрын
@@user-wu5bm4ei9lHiddenxperia is also biased and i believe he gets paid by 343 to give Halo good PR
@neon_rainbowlight13022 ай бұрын
343 really fired the Halo ring on the community.
@carlstanford7607Ай бұрын
The whole Cortana becomes ‘space hitler’ plot line was fking insane. 343 are awful.
@MAJ4KАй бұрын
All that stuff was off screen, which is crazy to me. No Atriox, Didact, or Cortana.
@sofaking16272 ай бұрын
Saying it now, if the next Halo title is a 343 game, I'm not even going to bother, I don't care if it's free. 343 isn't Halo.
@br8y6932 ай бұрын
343 is like plankton making a krabby patty without the secret formula
@-Truth-2 ай бұрын
And all we got were chummy joes.
@richardbarrett44882 ай бұрын
Didn’t they say they wanted to “hire people who hated halo” all the way back in halo 4
@ToatsMcGoats53424 күн бұрын
Im not sure how people forgot this and nobody talks about it anymore. 20 minute rant about 343 and he didnt mention this. 343 warned us way back in the halo 4 concept days.
@PretentiousAdonisАй бұрын
The only reason I see for the hate 343 has for Bungie are higher ups being extremely insecure in their place at the company. They know they've been messing up for a decade and they know Microsoft wouldn't mind replacing most if not all of the decision makers, it's probably why they got hit so hard during the layoffs. ANY of the important people at Bungie has the potential to replace them, even voice actors since they grew with Bungie and were personally involved with everyone that made the series into the powerhouse it was. Those higer ups are the only ones with the power to make "No Bungie" the law of the studio and their insecurity around Bungie will never kill Halo, but it will kill their studio and cost hundreds of the "little" people at 343 their jobs and reputations.
@JJAB912 ай бұрын
11:15 Alex Wakeford aka Haruspis is an interesting point. Once upon a time many people in the Halo community DID like him and DID want him to be a part of 343i...then he changed. Back around 2012 to 2016 he ran a blog and one of the most popular things he did was write lengthy and hyper-detailed posts breaking down Halo 5 mission by mission with how it went wrong in specifically in the story and plot department. His posts back in that era were generally well relieved by many. Then at some point he changed and started writing insane nonsense about anyone who doesn't like Halo 5 was racist, how the Arbiter is a male feminist or how Halo 3 was sexist etc. It was like something in his brain switched and he went full "I'm a modern games journalist type please hire me 343i" mode even going as far as to go back to those 2015/2016 Halo 5 posts and writing with big bold letters on the top "um aschally perhaps I think I was too harsh on this game and 343i and uh don't really read too much into this now" before eventually deleting all of them and his blog. Thats also not to mention he is notorious for blocking anyone in the Halo community who isn't 100% positive about him or the state of Halo, it became a meme that he had like half the entire Halo fanbase blocked among other things like the time he groped the Master Chief statue at 343i despite his previous awful articles about sexism and whatnot. That man is everything wrong with not just 343i but the current state of the industry.
@jjglazed48522 ай бұрын
It should be remade like how the dead space remaster was adding new enemies and cut content but not overdoing it so it still feels original
@CaptainBloodsail2 ай бұрын
They really set the bar for remakes with the dead space 1 remake and resident evil remakes.
@jjglazed48522 ай бұрын
@@CaptainBloodsail yea man I’d say best remakes I’ve played were the mw2 remaster h2A and dead space 1
@dum5247Ай бұрын
Halo 2 with the anniversary graphics and lost content is available in a better reality
@thegrayinthefield87642 ай бұрын
343 gutted Bungie's lore, art style and philosophy. They took Halo and ripped its soul out, but no one cared back then. It's good that people are starting to take notice and realize "trusting these people with Halo was a mistake", but I wish it happened over a decade ago. Now the "forerunners" (I can't even call them that lmao) are ugly barbarians without noses, our favorite space zombies were precursor coke used as dog food by "Actual-forerunners-but-no-longer-forerunners", The lightbulb of installation 04 is a caveman, all the weapons look like reach, and story-telling is almost completely absent.
@thegrayinthefield87642 ай бұрын
"Understand this: the Mantle you have shouldered I do rescind - with far more consideration than it was granted." -Mendicant Bias (Frank O'Connor didn't write this and he didn't create the character of Mendicant Bias)
@rhysnichols8608Ай бұрын
Reach weapons look good and the flood being the precursors is really cool to me, SOME of the expanded lore from 343 is good, but overall they have definitely taken halo in a terrible direction
@LegendStormcrowАй бұрын
"Let them cook." My brother in Christ, they have burnt down the kitchen 4 times!
@morgan3392Ай бұрын
Seeing that some very formative members of Bungie tried to work at 343, just to be disrespected like that, is enough for me to never give 343 any more of my money, until they can prove they've renounced that nonsense and dropped being such senseless pricks.
@TheFadedFolly2 ай бұрын
You know what at this point, let Halo die. They killed it, and they’re walking its corpse around now.
@ethanhayes34742 ай бұрын
I kinda agree. I will always love the franchise with all of my heart, but seeing 343 just use it to be petty and actively go out of their way to make bad games makes me just want the series to die. I’d rather the bungie era games be more of a cult classic type of thing than to see it become Medal of Honor or call of duty.
@TheFadedFolly2 ай бұрын
@@ethanhayes3474 Agreed man. It’s sad. I love Halo, it’s my childhood. But.. sometimes it’s better to let something you love die than to see it rot alive.
@yasininn762 ай бұрын
Hell no. We have the option to boycott 343 and get halo back, we are not letting halo die if we have any say in it.
They literally brought Joseph staton in just to give us bad news about everything that wasn't coming to infinite and the lies..and then fire him. I guess to ruin his reputation after all the success he's done to the Halo franchise???
@rhysnichols8608Ай бұрын
He was a fall guy, but also was useful at building hype. Players who didn’t like 343 games were willing to try infinite because joe was back.
@GibGibsonАй бұрын
343 does not need to exist any longer, they need to be dissolved and reorganized.
@gregorymirabella1423Ай бұрын
I used to make fun of Xbox a lot when I was younger, but I just can't anymore. It's pathetic that this joke of a studio killed one of the most beloved properties of all time, and Microsoft just LET THEM. I'm so glad I'm not a Halo fan, because this hurts enough already. I'm so sorry Halo fans, you don't deserve this.
@TaiidanOnslaught2 ай бұрын
That squidward section really hit home. I want classic Halo. They won’t make classic Halo. So I’m stuck playing things I love but have played for 20 years.
@bobert45262 ай бұрын
Man it's kinda funny how people are just now getting around to the screw 343 side now when I knew back when the teaser trailer for Halo 4 came out that we were fucked.
@jinmori27352 ай бұрын
Yeah...took them a 10000 years to make it to where we are.
@CaptainBloodsail2 ай бұрын
Halo 4 was okey but 5 and infinite were trash (I did like the mutiplayer for 5 though)
@rm250882 ай бұрын
sad thing is there are thousands of people who disagree and love 343 and buy 100s of dollars worth of shit from their store. I am hoping most of them are young kids who didn't get to play bungie games but I don't think so. Why people would like 343 after all the shit they have done is beyond me. Not even the shitty games. Just them in general. Lying straight to the communities face. Multiple, multiple times.
@MozambiqueEnjoyer60972 ай бұрын
@@rm25088People still fawn over Todd Howard even though practically everything he says on camera is a blatant lie.
@ELIZABETHMARLONE20052 ай бұрын
@@rm25088you know Bungie isn't any better than 343 these days lol
@MrFunzerker2 ай бұрын
You see a lot of similarities with Disney and 343. They wanted to make the story their own, yet in the process they alienated the vast majority of the core audience.
@hobojoe357Ай бұрын
A long, long time ago, video game devs cared about the games they made. Games were made to have fun. Now you have to pay money just to change the color of your armor and the devs openly post about hating the games they make and the fans who played them.
@SunnyMitten2 ай бұрын
To me, Infinite was the last straw, this is just more proof 343 need to all be fired, EVEN THE INTERNS. #Fire343 #Boycott343sHalo #SaveHalo #Bungie
@jjglazed48522 ай бұрын
Yes 🙌
@ilbro78742 ай бұрын
I think infinite is awesome besides the story being a little bland
@SunnyMitten2 ай бұрын
@@ilbro7874 Other than the lack of weapons, Armor customization which used to suck now it sucks but less, colors being made purchasable, battle passes proving they falsely advertised about grinding being the way to get armor, Annoying AI that made Navi from TLOZ:OOT feel more reasonable, Story being a bootleg of Star Wars TLJ with it's beginning, and ending that did nothing to stop the ring from being repaired, utter character assassination of Chief, etc. It's about a 5/10 with firefight added to dull the blows a bit, otherwise 2/10.
@kivinrepoio92882 ай бұрын
That already happened, all the old interns, staff and leadership of 343 was fired and replaced, we just gotta see how good or bad the new team is with the new game. But as always halo fans not knowing any news of their "favorite" franchise, they just know hate news
@SunnyMitten2 ай бұрын
@@kivinrepoio9288 I see, if they tryna reboot CE already as a new team then I can't trust em when they could add content to infinite, reinstate MCC for more updates like adding DigSite content officially as settings to each game with cut content, allow cut armor as customization for Halo 1 and enable the option to disable it in case you want the classic cosmetic experience, Add the e3 version of the battle rifle as a multiplayer weapon, etc. A new team takes it slow then goes big when they're ready, it's how BUNGIE succeeded.
@nagiaoe24342 ай бұрын
9:26 This alone vindicates me. I KNEW for a fact 343 shills were 343 employees running damage control on every social media platform because the hate for Bungie us unwarranted. There would not be Halo without Bungie. Bungie is Halo.
@dogwoodhillbilly2 ай бұрын
Or at least old Bungie from 1998-2010. Some people misunderstand when we talk about Bungie doing things better and think we are talking about modern Bungie. The really sad part is not a single person who worked on Halo back then works at Bungie anymore. They are a completely different company from what they once were.
@WuunderboyАй бұрын
True @@dogwoodhillbilly
@xXHerrZockXxАй бұрын
I dont trust 343. That studio needs to unhappen.
@BorgronАй бұрын
I was 9 in 2012. Maybe it wasn’t such a bad thing that my family couldn’t afford a 360. CE was my first Halo.
@Rookie24012 ай бұрын
What’s ironic is that while I technically grew up in the 343 era, my best memories of this game are split screen coop on halo 3 and reach with my cousins, and halo one and two on my neighbors original Xbox, which they still have plugged in today. I technically grew up in 343’s era, but I really grew up in the bungie era ten years removed. Even though bungie isn’t looking too good right now either, it’s no coincidence I loved destiny more than halo 5.
@pododododoehoh35502 ай бұрын
People gotta remember Old halo Bungie and New destiny Bungie ate almost completely different people. Theyre no more than same crews than 343 and bungie, og bungie are the talents that made the good halo games and the initial concept for destiny.
@emergency_broadcast_systemАй бұрын
People still play the original Bungie games, don't know anyone who still boots up 4 or 5 to replay the campaign
@abyssal-labs2 ай бұрын
343 can’t be trusted, 3 bad games and a butchered tv show and they actively hate the franchise and fired the only chance they had at fixing the game, joe and the others
@idotclaves2 ай бұрын
3 bad games??? are you just another sheep like the rest??
@REALMARCHINADER2 ай бұрын
Halo 4 had a good campaign, it gave a good ending to Cortana and expanded on Halo 3's MC characterization (I'd rather they just stopped there too but welp). Halo 5 atleast had a good multiplayer. Halo Infinite is... well atleast it had a good forge.
@fridaysatjons10972 ай бұрын
@@REALMARCHINADER halo 5’s multiplayer is so overrated in my opinion. Its a cod advanced warfare knockoff
@REALMARCHINADER2 ай бұрын
@@fridaysatjons1097 I view it as the opposite. It's practically overhated due to how bad the campaign was. What's funny is that 90% of Halo fans who call the mp garbage never even played Halo 5. I'm not saying it's the best. Like you said it feels very COD like, but I feel like people get too hung up on that apsect when its sandbox is probably one of the biggest and most playgroundy Halo has ever gotten, especially in its forge maps. I genuinely like how H5 handled balancing, it felt like a case of everything being op thus nothing is. I prefer that to how Bungie balanced Reach.
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
@REALMARCHINADER 90% of Halo fans never played H5 MP. LOL bullshit. I played the multiplayer. It was trash then and it was trash now.
@doomexeАй бұрын
Makes sense why 343 can't develop a good game even if their life depended on it. I don't care if there are good people at 343, fuck em all. The should never fucking touch Halo ever again and never should have in the first place
@CopperKast20 күн бұрын
God, Microsoft just needs to take Halo from 343 and give it to a studio that actually cares about the franchise
@blondfoss2 ай бұрын
This whole "remaking halo ce will make 343 understand halo" excuse is so dumb, they've had 15 years to learn what makes halo, halo, remaking it will just pass on their bad ideas from 343's games into the remade legacy titles, and the story will continue and call back to their remade version, their new remake/rebooted canon, not the og games established canon...and we have hindsight how that will go by just looking at Halo 4, 5, Infinite. 343 has had plenty of time to learn, specially when they made MCC, it's not a remake, but they definitely had to get knee deep in every halo game to make that collection work, they had to understand how everything worked to make it, and even then they still had issues, issues that lasted years to fix. They should've learned everything they need from MCC, if they still haven't then it's time to pass the torch, let another studio make a new halo game, without the need to erase the legacy games' history. Bungie knocked it out of the park on their first try, without references, 343 had the entire halo bible done for them and they still can't get it right after all these years. A remake/reboot is the worst direction for the franchise.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
@blondfoss Did we really expect 343 Industries not to take the lazy route? They have never committed to a single Halo plotline in any game they have released. If Master Chief VS Atriox is resolved offscreen, I'm done with Halo for a VERY long time.
@sendingevac2 ай бұрын
If 343 is still this bad even after the leadership change, then idk if halo can be saved. Might as well let the property rest in peace.
@slimonawesome2 ай бұрын
This is like the 30th leadership change. Halo has been dead since 2015 :(
@rm250882 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. It should RIP. We know nothing about pierre other than "leader of the MCC team". Oh great. That took years to become ehhh. He hasn't introduced himself or said anything. Not that I know of.
@INF2.160Ай бұрын
We need to give it to someone other than 343
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
@@INF2.160 Halo needs to be given to another developer straight up, no cap. Halo could have been laid to rest after Reach, as Bungie intended with dignity, and everything would have been fine, but now we have a decade of mediocre Halo to clean up.
@barcelo2304Ай бұрын
Such a shame where halos at ever since the awful infinite launch this things have just goten worse, in the time since, we've got a show that licks balls, a grueling 2 years to get infinite at a ok state just for it to cut off content and become 20$ skin updates and the death of mcc updates last year. At this point im just looking forward to other titles now like GoW or even cod if that turns out well. Rip Halo
@barsthehippie22 күн бұрын
“You’re going to be doing this until you’re 90!” -343 talking to master chief
@coffeeelk63642 ай бұрын
As someone without a Twitter or other social media, this blew my mind. I knew things were bad, but not this bad, Christ. At this point MS should give Halo to iD software IMO.
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
Stay away from Halo Twitter. Too many delusional fanboys mostly the content creators defending 343 nonstop. I had to delete mine because I can't stand their braintot takes anymore.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
@coffeeelk6364 I will say it forever, id Software is a natural choice to save Halo, there is ZERO possibility they wouldn't make an INCREDIBLE Halo experience!
@Gamefreak29982 ай бұрын
Remember when 343 claimed bungie left them with no documentation of Halo/blam?
@gcm2573Ай бұрын
As someone who is almost turning 19 and fits into the growing up with 343 era I actually grew up with Halo 3 and Reach and so did my childhood friends as well. I grew up on Infected and Grifball with Halo Reach so I noticed a weird change with the series with Halo 4 that I never bothered to play the 343 games. It’s time to remove 343 and replace them. It would be awesome to see what Halo would look like if Bungie made another game!
@MetaVizions23 күн бұрын
The gaming industry as whole, over the past decade as faded. Anyone who is younger than 25, won’t really remember the “Golden Era” of Online Gaming. 2005-2012. Was an incredible run.
@MarioMan882 ай бұрын
Their name is 343, of course they’d betray us!
@shadowninja1275Ай бұрын
I think this video tells the whole truth of what 343 has become. They betrayed us.
@iLegionaire37553 күн бұрын
@@shadowninja1275 Has become? 343 Industries was engineered from the very start, to betray the Halo franchise from top to bottom.
@YnossZaperator2 ай бұрын
I wonder how Twitterers and Redditors who like defending 343 are gonna react to this?
@EvilPhoenix0072 ай бұрын
Knowing the NPCs with the Spartan IV pfps. They are probably not taking it well.
@lepaul_Official24 күн бұрын
we need a Petition to stop 343 right NOW !!!
@ATRavenousStorm23 күн бұрын
This mentality is rampant in media. The mentality of "Yeah the original was cool or whatever but we can do it better" This happens until the original core of what made it SO appealing is faint or non-existent. It isn't recognizable anymore. Then it flops and the new guard doubles down and continues to do so until it's either rebooted or put to rest.
@tyvernoverlord53632 ай бұрын
Bonnie, Kiki, Frank; these three damaged the Halo franchise
@Figway552 ай бұрын
There needs to be a class action lawsuit against 343 for ruining Halo on purpose
@ihadlunch857527 күн бұрын
Asmongold brought me here
@theodoreroosevelt2154Ай бұрын
At this point it’s funny, 343 has been failing their way through game development while Microsoft looks the other way like an alcoholic single mom. They’ve been pissing their pants and crying about how they never want to see any bungie developers cause bungie did it better and that’s not fair, even trying to fire the original voices everyone knows, and calling the halo fans evil and mean for being mad because they weren’t given a finished game when it launched. I will eagerly await the next 343 incident, cause it’ll probably be even funnier than this.