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German horses always have stamina

@@erikramaekers63 They love heavy conditions.

Could never tell how good it can be racing first time outside Germany

Well said Patricia

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Great run

OK 9

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It loved the heavy ground.

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I am with torquator tasso. Tarnawa ist an outstanding mare.

She ran an absolutely brilliant race, just caught approaching the line.

Tarnawa's run was absolutely insane.Wet Arc's are an impossibility on that home straight on the rail.Wow

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Awful ride from William on Adayer

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@@JPwhoknows another twat slaming the jockey ,lose did we bet you would have ride it better than and muti group one jockey

I had £5 ew on it as my 2nd pick from Adayer

@@JPwhoknows I had it too! Only £1 ew though as had more on Alenquer, but better than nothing. Saw the forecast in Paris on Saturday night and took a chance but was expecting a place at best.

@@mcfch9625 better than nothing mate! A win is a win

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Best horse won on the day

Must have been underestimated. I have never heard of him.

@@countbelalucozade last years runner up „In Swoop“ was also a progeny of Adlerflug. Adlerflug only started to get international recognition this year, but sadly passed away this spring.

@@countbelalucozade he also was the winner of the German Derby in 2007 by 7 or 8 lengths.

Thanks for mention Adlerflug. Love from Germany

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An awful lot of burnt fingers Coco!. Not sure why Buick decided to try and make all on Adayar. I thought he would have him in mid division. Fine runs from Tarnawa and Hurricane Lane, Snowfall's bubble we'll and truly burst.

Bizarre ride from Buick!.

Don't congratulate the bookies ffs there the enemy lol

@@liamquigley891 Sarcastic comment i suspect.

Burnt fingers galore Coco!. Just typing this took some serious effort. That's racing for you. William Buick's ride on Adayar is provoking some discussion.

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my birthday

@@julienewsome7471 Then please receive my congratulations afterwards! Happy birthday! :-)

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It’s never raced outside Germany so hard for people to get behind.

Irish bred horses win a huge percentage of races all over the world but especially in the UK and that’s probably why people focus on them too.

@@pugmahone9439 And they come to the Breeder's Cup in the US so we can see them here. But I catch a lot of foreign racing on KZfaq so hint to someone in Germany to start uploading this great horse and others please!

It was 2-4 this season 😂😂

@@jacob4690 And now he's an Arc winner!

David, I haven't a clue what Buick was thinking to be honest. OK, he was slightly hamstrung in the fact that Adayar broke too well from the stalls whereas Deep Bond completely missed the break. Broome did get out in front and was supposed to make a decent pace, however Yutaka Take was useless as usual. I don't know how for the life of me, he is so popular in Japan? I have never liked, nor rated him as a jockey. I can still remember the almighty cock-up he produced on White Muzzle in an Arc many years ago. In a sense, Buick had no option but to lead. Where he did go wrong however, was to kick for home that soon. He would have been better off going at the same rhythm till the last 250/275 metres. Even if a couple of horses went past him, he could have pulled out to the outside and then kicked on. Would have had better chance. And yes, I am partly talking through my (much emptier) wallet.

Adayar and Buick were forced to hit the front after the 1st 4 F , the 2 front runners did not set up a decent pace , very messy and really , Aidan should of advised the jockey on Broome to burn up a bit more in front , was never gonna be good enough to get placed anyhow . Would of helped Snowfall , Tarnawa , Hurricane Lane and Adayar much more , as these were the best classy horses in the Arc. But fair play to the winner .

Terrible rude by William Buick

@@bonzilicke he went way too early

@@bonzilicke far to prominent with a horse who would prefer to be a little more mid div. having the lead that early on with no cover wasted far to much of Adayers energy while hurricane lane and Tarnawa were nicely covered and saving fuel hence why Adayer run out of gassed the last 300 yards, Buick just ran a poor race in him went for home far to early and bad positioning. The winner was positioned perfectly the whole race

No. It’s not a tough race. It is a sh*t track.

@@lulabellegnostic8402 deluded

Yeh camerawork always woeful in french racing

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Don't forget Danedream in 2011.

​@@myfrobert five lengths🎉

​@@sylviadrees3761and a new record!

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@Drschivel Sixteensbcsprint bet you missed it too Wayne 🤪

@Drschivel Sixteensbcsprint where did you get 5/1 ? Only 1 Bookmaker ever gave that offer . I got 9/2 to start with and done it again at 4/1

No prizes for second.

@Drschivel Sixteensbcsprint bullshit , u cant even mention the one bookie who offered 5/1 , and it is only one . Not bothered messaging you again , you are about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike .

at 3 years..SEA BIRD,RIBOT,

No, it isn’t. It is run on ground that no decent flat horse should be asked to run on, indeed, no decent NH horse should be run on this bog.

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Me neither. It leaves the taste of whiny loosers, who just can't accept that their star couldn't win against an outsider on my tongue. If René would have ridden TT in a way that would have distributed the other horses and made it impossible for them to go past him on purpose or used the whip more times than allowed I'd understand it. But none of such things happened and so the only thing left to say is "sometimes unexpected miracles come true and that's the magic of any sport and even life itself. Get over it."

On Chrono Genesis/Mishriff formlines not really. He's ran a length underpar on his Ascot run.

He wouldn't have won it by that far.

She's already won 4 group ones you clown 🤡

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Jen, Tarnawa is a stalwart of Irish racing and a multiple Group One winner, not a maiden now starting out.

Matt I feel your pain. I think some of the regular French based jockeys were horrendous this week. Soumillion wasted a good draw here, I think Colin Keane would have done better. Barzalona was made to looks like an utter clown today on Audariya and yesterday Peslier got the Revenant beaten when it should have won well. A few times Doyle and Frankie schooled them yesterday. My only thought was for a couple of seconds Tarnawa was hitting a flat spot ir maybe would have liked it slightly less heavy but I think she should have won 🏆

Stop making excuses, ifs and buts

How can you say you think it should of won😂 just cos you lost your money dont be a sore loser.

@@JPwhoknows How am I being a sore loser? I clearly stated that the winner won well. I just personally believe that Tarnawa did not get to run to her best, was blocked off, and lost ground switching to the rail. You could also say that Hurricane Lane had trouble in running too. I have news for you…the best horse doesn’t always win. The winner got a clear run on the outside, exploited the better ground and also stayed away from traffic. I am not denying that it won, I am simply saying that another horse probably would of if given a better setup. It’s not ifs and buts. Tarnawa was blocked off and the jockey probably shouldn’t of switched her to the rail, thus losing ground. If that doesn’t happen, she wins. I’m not being a sore loser, just stating facts lol. She wasn’t beat fair and square

@@JPwhoknows this is correct

He was 150.1 last night not 50s how no your chatting shit lol

@@darrenhancock3570 May God strike me dead here and now he was only 50s on PP. I can screenshot ya the win

All Bookmakers have the same terms , not just Paddy Power

@@44sledge It's shite. Ah look I can't complain getting lucky this once but I have never seen a faster pay out from PP

@@aidenoleary7406 they robbed ya m8 was 150.1 on bet365 mate lol

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I did 😂😂 nice little return

I did ,@100/1

Had him at 50s. 10 e/w. PP don't pay best price on racing outside UK/Ireland

£5 ew at 80/1 but lost a a fair bit on my first choice Adayer so wasn’t as much as a profit lol

I did, 50p each way, received £49.00

St Leger an than arc placed. That's something!

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It won 4 group 1s, it shouldn't have been that price.

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He is absolutely fantastic!

Tarnawa is a filly .

Stimmt so - over 12 furlongs plus, never count them out! Gratulieren...

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Glad I enjoyed it. The Arc is the best flat race in Europe this horse just loved the ground and surprised everyone.

He loved the ground, that really helped.

Had to use up a lot of energy on the start of the straight getting through the crowd! Still the best horse imo no mean feat what he achieved from leger to arc

It was the lack of a prep race. The lack of a race between the King George and Arc was almost in my mind.

2009 was a great one.

This was the best Arc I have ever seen- you have not watched many then, silly boy.

@Serial Killers hahahahahahahahaha

@@galleon1968 right

The the greatest Arc was when the British horse Dancing Brave won it in 1986.

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The Oaks winning distance flattered her, but she is a good horse - not a great horse. She ran well in The Arc, but the heavy ground didn't help her or many of the others.

Just another Summer horse. They thought she was another Treve, Zarkava, Enable. That is now laughable.

Tarnawa is the best horse you bellend

@@roberto4001000 really 😂

@@kingkonho yes you knob jockey.

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You're right about the last part. In a video in German TT's trainer said that he doesn't think they'll make a fool out of themselves, but they have to go into this race with realistic expectations.

@@yami-no-kami3586 Took me ages to land a selection on this meeting. In general, like most, i would concentrate on the principles in the market for win purpose and ignore outsiders in most cases basing it on reputation and odds. This is not always wise, but does save time, however I do have a quick glance at outsiders form especially in big meetings. After long and thorough form reviewing between the principles, i narrowed down to two of them, going back and forth between Hurricane Lane and Tarnawa. Though Adayar beat Hurricane Lane, was the only race he lost with excuse on the day.. plus he seems better than Adayar on soft ground.. but Tarnawa form looked a close match.. but was very hard to split them, but with 3lb weight allowance and overall form, very narrowly landed on Hurricane Lane. Ruling out the obvious ones, I went through several previous racing clips of few horses in this field which also included Torquator Tasso. Since online firms were paying on 5 places, at the odds i thought Sealiway was value for a place chance who was not beaten far by the talented horse St Mark's Basilica (recently retired) as Tarnawa was second to..though at different trips. Torquator Tasso was another i thought had place value (at the time 66/1) who recently beat a horse called Passion and Glory, who beat a good horse on his day called Euchen Glen in a Group 3 race.. and few other factors based on seeing her previous races. Did I expect her to win? Not really, but i certainly thought had the talent to be in the frame. This was my eventual punt. *Hurricane Lane to win *Hurricane Lane x Tarnawa reverse forecast as well as extra on straight forecast Sealiway and Torquator Tasso Each way (place) at smaller stake. At times no matter how much time you spend on studying and reviewing form, its always how the races pan out on the day, plus we all can easily underestimate potential talents.

@@the_observinganalyst4085 Wow...that's quite a thoughtful analysis. Yeah, underestimating a horse for whatever reason is fairly easy, but that doesn't mean these horses can't perform miracles and honestly those are the most beautiful victories. And there're a lot of horses who proved that even underestimated outsiders can be champions. I mean, Kincsem, the most successful racehorse, ever is a prime example of this. No one wanted to have her because of her average and ugly appearance and even her own trainer didn't think highly of her before she began her career and beat some of the biggest names of her time. Today, approx. 150 years later, her record still stands.

It loved the ground.

Don't start she wasn't good enough

I agree not good enough. Still a terrible ride though.

She was upsides the winner 2f out..moore did nothin wrong

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I don't LOL , I backed Tarnawa ante post @ 10/1

outsiders winning = scum bag dog bookies winning, never a good thing

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What do you mean by top weight, it's a non handicap

All the older colts carried the same weight , its a Group race , not a Handicap .

Sophia, I think what has confused you is the fact that he has number 1 on his saddlecloth. However, the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe is NOT a handicap. Therefore, he and all the other 4 and 5 year old horses carried the same weight (apart from the female ones of course).

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You could say that again

Good old Great Britain

Ride on hurricane Lane was even stranger

Tanarwa was never in front of TT . CS had Tanarwa in a terrible position around the bend & 3 lengths back from the winner .

Rodney, another German horse Star Appeal won the Arc in 1975 at 118-1

@@jameshopkins3059 never right if the Germans no matter what the price

Tarnawa should of won you bellend .

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Agree completely Tarnawa would of destroyed this field on better ground she's a machine .

Moore's been below par in a few races recently.

Horse wasnt good enough

Frankie also couldn’t win a g1 on the horse so no good trying to blame Moore

@@jacob4690 he won the oaks on her

@@robertdelacy3434 yes and got beat in the trial run last month

Of course he backed it. Sure he'd back himself out of a black bag the mouthpiece.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wayne couldn't pick a fly out of a pickle jar. 😂

Bookies don't lose, the house always win, for gamblers like me it's a mugs game.

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Only the price was strange, Torquator Sasso has a pedigree to die for being related to Galileo and Sea The Stars.

Why didt you type the four horses BEFORE the race?? Very easy to evaluate after the event.

@@justsomeone9267 totally agree with u.its easy after the race has been run.if we all new this we would be millionaires🙂

It still would've lost.

German efficiency?

Especially the Schlenderhan Dam Line from Allegretta

@@Cgn-bd2xp not too bad with Jumpers either Well Chief being a gd example. Well done Germany

How did you work that out lol best stayers. You won 1 arc and only won 2 previously lol

@@maxryder6649 you’re talking about horses trained in Germany. But Germany has bred several winners in the last decade or two: Danedream, Waldgeist, Hurricane Run… and going back to the Schlenderhan mares, Galileo & Sea the stars wouldn’t exist without their broadmare line. Perhaps not the best breeding in the world but definitely up there for the small amount of progeny each year

He shouldn't have been. It should have been Deep Bond (who missed the break), or Broome, who did get out in front, but was ridden by a very useless Yutaka Take who just doesn't have a clue.

@@jameshopkins3059 cant disagree with any of that. He just set it up for the three behind. Hes a nice horse but trying to make all in that ground was not the best decision.

Wayne did. # ORACLE

@Drschivel Sixteensbcsprint Yes Wayne, of course you did Wayne.

@@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon I always think it's best to humor him. 🤣

@Drschivel Sixteensbcsprint Yes Wayne, of course Wayne, whatever you say Wayne. 😂

Turned the race into a sprint a true run race why they didn't make the running with hurricane Lane baffled me