The Human Torch vs Iceman! Fire vs Ice! Two polar opposites going head to head! Fight Fight Fight! Buzz words Buzz words Buzz words! Watch my video! Be sure to subscribe!
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@piercemchugh45096 жыл бұрын
I love how the movies make these heroes seem so simple, but in the comics they are all so overpowered and complicated.
@silverrain992053 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing I don't understand
@PhillipP932 жыл бұрын
@@silverrain99205 There's only so much you can establish in a 2 hr movie. It's easier to expand on a character in a comic book series because you can tell a story that can go on forever and ever. Characters have to be simplified so that the audience can digest everything that's happening.
@logariusbacardi83302 жыл бұрын
@@PhillipP93 Books always have more content than films.
@krod42782 жыл бұрын
They do that in every movie
@brian7333 Жыл бұрын
The comics have gotten around to near-deifying every character it seems (WB Hulk, Alpha level mutants, etc.)
@mud-bloodprince39316 жыл бұрын
The Immortal Bobby Drake has been shown to freeze Hell. If that's not enough I'll explain further. The Immortal Bobby Drake is Immortal as well as Omnipresent.
@chrsso6 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger not omnipresent
@spiffygonzales58996 жыл бұрын
Hell, it was a joke.
@spiffygonzales58996 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger, you're forgetting that he's omni knowing and Omni powerful. The only thing capable of beating him is a utility belt.
@gabrieltapia28506 жыл бұрын
Darth Green Ranger , how hot is hell.......... thank u ur argument is poop I would bet money Johny is hotter then “Hell”
@nocturnal-58656 жыл бұрын
gabriel tapia What's Johnny Gonna do? Bobby can reform inside of him
@rigobertomcfarlane17816 жыл бұрын
I mean...Iceman has Frozen hell, a mystical fire that's hotter than the sun. Soooooooo what's up?
@nobodyknowsforsure6 жыл бұрын
even seen simple things like a firehose out johnny...soooo...I don't know...bad writing on both sides
@kayken83936 жыл бұрын
Yep. No competition between them really... Bobby's kinda like the dark horse of the comics. Could be epic, but his crippling self doubt prevents him from reaching full potential. Human Torch's powers are limited and lets be honest, he's easily injured and easily put out. (I do actually like Johnny though...) Meanwhile, Bobby's an Omega level mutant. Recently he's branched off from just ice-powers to being able to control water on a molecular level (in all states), so has the potential to become god-tier threat/character considering 71% of Earth is covered in water and this figure doesn't include moisture and water vapour. He was cold enough to stop a nuclear explosion and yep ^ freeze hell. Even Thor was pretty wary of his ice. Not to mention he could be basically immortal? He's been able to revive himself from a water-vapour/molecular state and just reform himself...
@slvrcobra13376 жыл бұрын
Wow. Iceman sounds like an overpowered Mary Sue
@kayken83936 жыл бұрын
Actually this has been slowly developing since the 60's. he's only one of a very few Omega levels and hardly uses his powers fully. Plus he has limitations and his personal weakness is that he didn't reach this potential on his own, he either needed Apocalypse or Emma Frost to unlock it, because he's not naturally creative enough to utilise his gifts fully.
@kayken83936 жыл бұрын
And he's hardly in the league of the truly op and Mary Sue characters of the Universe. He has faults and a personality that counterbalances what he can potentially do. He's not an all out perfect character, hardly the one that's tends to get the girl( but there's a reason for that now so) or anywhere near the strongest. He never really plays the part of the guy or girl in unending distress. He's just a very steady, long term core member of the X-Men, who very few times has even been a leader and happens to be an Omega level. Having vast power doesn't make you a Mary Sue off the bat, there's other factors. Especially not when the development was as slow and gradual as Bobby's. But yeah, he is way above Storm. There do actually have to be some Omega class mutants in the Universe. He just happens to be one of them.
@adam-ke2sy4 жыл бұрын
Iceman stopped a nuclear reactor before, Has shishkabobbed thor and done so much unbelievable stuff. Bobby def takes this
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
dramamu himself said Human Torch has the power of a god trapped in a human's body. Johnny could also go super nova which destroyed a good chunk of the annihilus army (which took cosmic level heroes to take em out). Not only that, but he could burn off all of the oxygen which cause everyone to suffocate. He's token attacks from Gladiator and kept on fighting. Johnny has proven he's a planetary level threat. Johnny can even burn at planck temp (which has the power to rupture the MULTIVERSE)
@iizensei75473 жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 I never knew that 😅
@jrock54782 жыл бұрын
Easily Bobby!!!!!
@leonidasfloissac59242 жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 still don’t matter , iceman has froze a nuclear reactor/bomb.
@williamdupree82206 жыл бұрын
Wtf... Iceman froze hell no way torch can get that hot
@mullajohn28036 жыл бұрын
hell is full of burning sulphur
@kash456 жыл бұрын
The only person who can get as hot as the sun is sunspot he actually takes Solar energy from the sun Human Torch doesn't
@unknownboy6956 жыл бұрын
Kash 45 dumb ass I'm holding back I'm holding back
@EnclaviousFiraga5 жыл бұрын
Torch can get as hot as he wants. But he doesn't because just being as hot as the sun damages his surroundings
@iMista5 жыл бұрын
William Dupree bro torch could destroy planets instantly if he went supernova y’all downplayin him
@keithbigT6 жыл бұрын
You might have overlooked the control Iceman had over his powers from the Age of Apocalypse story line where he essentially transports the team by turning everyone to water vapor and then reassembling them at their destination.
@elijahwilliams32043 жыл бұрын
Wow, fascinating😲😀
@smokingbeetles57932 жыл бұрын
But skeleton and calcium isn't water though....
@keithbigT2 жыл бұрын
@@smokingbeetles5793 lol I'm just stating the comic facts, not claiming I understand or agree with them.
@austinvee6601 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember him doing that though I read the arc over 20 years ago. That being said, Bobby doing that would put him in the upper echelons of omega mutants
@lucao99966 жыл бұрын
Iceman froze hell
@unknownboy6956 жыл бұрын
Wombat um ok
@COrraThereal0ne3 жыл бұрын
Human Tourch become a SUN.
@runkpunkin59803 жыл бұрын
@@COrraThereal0ne *hotter than one
@HeraldoftheMEME6 жыл бұрын
Finally a video you actually have done thorough research on I'm proud of you Dan Co.... you're finally making reasonable matchups with reasonable logic
@amateur-madman30476 жыл бұрын
I love both of these characters so much, I used to match them up in my head all the time. But I’d definitely have to go with Iceman. The guy is an Omega level mutant, he’s frozen all of Hell, and an entire city. He can heal any damage he takes, and on top of all that he can’t die. Human Torch may be able to do something similar by elevating his heat to such a level that anything thrown at him just immediately melts, but if that doesn’t work he has no real way of defending against damage.
@amateur-madman30473 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 Who’s this person Human Torch was punched by?
@CaptainFrost323 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 Bobby has gotten faster at reconstitution. He can actually work in numerous parts of the world through ice proxies while freezing the earth. By this point, Johnny is playing chinese checkers while Bobby is playing 3-d Chess.
@tuneunleashed2 жыл бұрын
You do know that Johnny Storm is also Beyond Omega Level right?!
@oluwadamilola62332 жыл бұрын
"Omega level" is an overrated word, if human torch was a Mutant,he would be omega level too bro
@Silentef Жыл бұрын
@@oluwadamilola6233 he is a mutant. His dna got altered along with the F4. He is omega level
@yuncelluz87096 жыл бұрын
Ok this was informative I like this fight
@chrsso6 жыл бұрын
Marcellus Jamison was wrong tbh
@whitephoenixofthecrown85236 жыл бұрын
Hell yupp
@eliasacuna81886 жыл бұрын
Ho
@insomnolence83986 жыл бұрын
sleep no it wasn't.
@chechong24396 жыл бұрын
google Iceman respect thread. Bobby Drake (Iceman) is practically a god now.
@justinanderson24606 жыл бұрын
Liked this a lot. Objective, evidence supplied, logical breakdown, no issue admitting when characters are evenly matched. Looks like a pretty good start to me (this is the first of your videos I've seen and I'm gonna go watch more now. +1like . In light of some new(ish) feats for Iceman, its entirely likely that he could feasibly defeat Johnny if both were going all out. Having said that, if they were both opperating at their more "standard" levels, Human Torch would still probably win.
@tylermckenzie77806 жыл бұрын
Iceman is a omega level mutant
@tylermckenzie77806 жыл бұрын
Which means he can freeze over the world. And he can create an ice clones
@radioactive_cosmicrays69686 жыл бұрын
Ultra Nerd lol so?
@unknownboy6956 жыл бұрын
Tyler McKenzie and
@keshinro...69794 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@thenerdygamer57496 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video like 20 times and it's still my favorite DanCo video of all time
@shabloinkz6 жыл бұрын
this omega level mutant shit moping the floor!!
@AWalkOnDirt6 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s the opposite. Cold has an inherent advantage over heat. This is why the universe will ultimately die of heat death because of the laws of thermodynamics.
@raymee10153 жыл бұрын
Iceman easily. He really downplayed him to get his favorite to win. As usual
@nh27272 жыл бұрын
True
@420Pezz-qc4nt4 күн бұрын
thanks for this, i really wish you could just outright ignore youtube accounts this dude is trash
@shawtyk17646 жыл бұрын
DanCo do you even know the temp of absolute zero?. If you did you'd know that human torch would lose. Sorry but I disagree
@paulroberts52346 жыл бұрын
Shawty K could iceman freeze the sun? Doubtful. I imagine he cannot get that close. Because no air. To hot, etc... Which to declare... Human torch is capable to fly and breath out of earth's atmosphere. And go to the sun. Etc... super Nova. Furthermore. Iceman can only last his powers at full for 5 to 6 hours. Which human torch... is able to keep his own power for multiple hours. Etc...
@chechong24396 жыл бұрын
Read up on Iceman. He's gone toe to toe with Celestial level opponents and won.
@totallytoastly86626 жыл бұрын
Paul Roberts It wouldn't even take Iceman an hour to beat Johnny
@chechong24396 жыл бұрын
An hour? Iceman with morals off would kill Torch with a thought
@theblackbasketball6 жыл бұрын
Paul Roberts Iceman froze hell
@readthisifyourgay44866 жыл бұрын
I think iceman would win
@sainttrunks19826 жыл бұрын
how
@unknownboy6956 жыл бұрын
The guy literally explained who would win guys johnny
@davidhatcher70166 жыл бұрын
@@unknownboy695 exactly
@damienc.39705 жыл бұрын
My money is on Iceman
@malachiwhite48085 жыл бұрын
Iceman froze hell tho
@poolsclosed77576 жыл бұрын
Brainiac vs ultron
@hulksmash25696 жыл бұрын
Ultron
@hulksmash25696 жыл бұрын
I, BELIEVE ULTRON's ability to adapt. AND HIS FIGHTING ABILITIES,. BRIANIAC no push over tho
@hulksmash25696 жыл бұрын
prathik
@hulksmash25696 жыл бұрын
IF ultron hacks brianiac's mother ship he could take control of him...
@hulksmash25696 жыл бұрын
Either way, its a good back and forward battle
@seanholmes74825 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Can you do a comparison match between Marvel's Pyro and Marvel's Human Torch?
@Dragonflyjones676 жыл бұрын
Research Ice Man powers again! He has the definite potential to beat the Human Torch. Let alone kill him!
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
dramamu himself said Human Torch has the power of a god trapped in a human's body. Johnny could also go super nova which destroyed a good chunk of the annihilus army (which took cosmic level heroes to take em out). Not only that, but he could burn off all of the oxygen which cause everyone to suffocate. He's token attacks from Gladiator and kept on fighting. Johnny has proven he's a planetary level threat.
@JesusGonzalez-jt7zh6 жыл бұрын
I want to see Moon Knight vs Michael Lane as Azrael.
@LouisVuitton14 жыл бұрын
Bruh anybody including me and you can beat moon knight. Sorry ass, that's exactly why he ain't got a movie
@blondepretzelguy36433 жыл бұрын
fast forward 2021, "Moon knight movie announced"
@imperiousdoom29176 жыл бұрын
Well done, that was quite the break down.
@ClutchCity716 жыл бұрын
Ice man easily
@davidhatcher70166 жыл бұрын
How so?
@cedricexquisite19995 жыл бұрын
No
@MusicFan.....4 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 NO
@wolffesaurusrex3 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 nigga no
@wolffesaurusrex3 жыл бұрын
@@uselessaccount6737 i wasted my time, but you're the one who wrote an entire paragraph
@mrKilakb6 жыл бұрын
Enchantress from suicide squad vs Scarlett witch from avengers
@igortepic11475 жыл бұрын
Scarlett wins
@tgr.45504 жыл бұрын
I think scarlett wins. What we were given in suicide squad does not inspire confidence
@camilamartinez39436 жыл бұрын
Amazing video do human torch vs firestorm
@WMcorp6 жыл бұрын
DanCo love your videos, can you do DC's Justice League VS Marvel's Annihilators?
@looneylooney79856 жыл бұрын
You broke this video down so perfectly I'm truly amazed!👏👏👏
@chrsso6 жыл бұрын
Looney Looney iceman should have won
@looneylooney79856 жыл бұрын
Hell lol I knew atleast 1person would say this but I have to disagree with you buddy. The Human Torch would smoke Iceman🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥too much heat🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hedoingitsideways6 жыл бұрын
Human Torch wont win, try reading a few comics.
@carloscarson45566 жыл бұрын
human torch would easily win
@chechong24396 жыл бұрын
How do you win against an immortal who can suck all the moisture out of your body? The video only addressed the cold vs hot but Bobby does a lot more than manipulate temperature. If Torch vaporizes Iceman then Bobby sucks out all the moisture in Johnny until Johnny turns to dust. He's actually done that in the comics to another being to reform. As far as hot vs cold. Bobby has frozen things as hot or hotter than Johnny in the comics. He frozen a nuclear fusion reactor explosion the equivilant of the suns heat at ground zero in the middle of the explosion. He froze over a fire dimension labled as Hell.. FROZE THE WHOLE THING. He's frozen Celestial tech and has even frozen abstract level opponents. He's frozen light. Iceman takes this easily.
@adamforbes10194 жыл бұрын
It comes down to "who shoots first," essentially. If Iceman encases torch in a mound of ice 20 stories high, and 20 stories wide, torch can flame-on all he wants, he will just be covered in freezing cold water and more ice coming down on him, especially if iceman is continually regenerating the melting ice. It has been shown before that torch cannot flame on while under water. That's what he will basically be in if he tries to flame on while encased inside a mountain of ice. However, if Torch hits Iceman with a giant nova blast of flame and holds it on him, Iceman wouldn't be able to reform. Atleast not immediately.
@dav1d92 жыл бұрын
Covered in freezing cold water? He literally explained how hot Torch can get, that ice would instantly be steam
@Sai-xc8ij Жыл бұрын
@@dav1d9i was thinking that
@reecewiczy775811 ай бұрын
@@dav1d9 iceman has frozen hell
@vogswana11 ай бұрын
@reecewiczy7758 Hell isn't that hot. Literally stated by Doom who (with no armour or magical protection), was just waltzing through in a Hoodie, a pair of jeans and some Timbs on.
@reecewiczy775811 ай бұрын
@@vogswana every comic is different lol in the case where he cooled off hell it was intended to be an insane feat
@yuval48626 жыл бұрын
doctor strange vs silver surfer i think that thay very strong becouse thay cant die and they awsome what you all think
@ChrisHemsworthIndia6 жыл бұрын
LEECHY tumabe fruit hay strange can die. And norrin died too.
@cheeseburgerfreddy63506 жыл бұрын
Moumita Srimany Hello Thor fan
@yuval48626 жыл бұрын
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY hello coca cola fan
@kimblesimpson54126 жыл бұрын
LEECHY tumabe fruit Where did you hear that from both Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer can die . Dr. Strange is not immortal and have you read the book Death of the Silver Surfer yet ?
@13wayz706 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted to see this fight ever since I found out about these two
@knguyen14216 жыл бұрын
To answer the question about how sucking the heat out of someone freezes them: All matter has an energy associated with it. This energy can be referred to as enthalpy, potential energy, brownian motion, etc. The point is, everything has energy, and therefore some sort of heat. One of the laws of thermodynamics states that a perfect crystal is formed only at absolute zero, which is zero kelvin (which has never been reached as far as we know), and it is at this temperature that all matter has no energy, and thus freezes. Or if you'd like, you can remember that cold is simply the absence of heat. In fact when something freezes, such as water, it is because so much energy has been taken out of it that the molecules stop moving long enough that they can interact and form stronger bonds with each other. An object melts because when heat is applied to them, enough energy is given such that these bonds can be broken.
@taureansun15012 жыл бұрын
Bruh I usually agree with you but in this bobby would win. Bobby shut down sunfire from accessing his powerswoth ease and freeze planets
@grimsavage9345 жыл бұрын
Torch died against the Annihilation Wave. Ice Man's body is fully malleable. Meaning he can reform from being shattered. Torch cannot.
@rodknochenhauer12786 жыл бұрын
yo could you do Taskmaster vs Deathstroke?! It would be so dope! great video btw. I agree. Johnny has shown greater feats with fire than Bobby has with Ice.
@wellteknically6 жыл бұрын
Please do something unique and fitting next, like Loki vs Ares (brothers of Thor and Wonder Woman who always play opponents into their hands) or Black Panther vs Black Manta (characters with “Black” in their names who are motivated by the deaths of their fathers)
@0eloquency06 жыл бұрын
Iceman is a water God. Iceman can become the ocean. Iceman would destroy human torch
@unknownboy6956 жыл бұрын
0eloquency0 yeah but then human torch could evaporate the ocean
@phantomx25396 жыл бұрын
Ice man almost beaten Thor human torch can't do that
@davidhatcher70166 жыл бұрын
Lol no.
@KlaxusKfs6 жыл бұрын
0eloquency0 he can’t become the ocean or water.
@davidhatcher70165 жыл бұрын
Jason Durray really?
@fierrobiego19216 жыл бұрын
Ice man wins because he is a level omega he could even teleport and have super speed
@kayken83936 жыл бұрын
Dude what the fuck? Aggressive much lmao. In all seriousness though, as it is right now Bobby would wipe the floor with Johnny, (coming from a big fan of both of them.)
@datusi44416 жыл бұрын
Ace Gambino stop talkin out yo neck bluh
@roewowo75894 жыл бұрын
Umm..isn't the Human Torch hotter than the sun itself?
@callmewhateveryouwant24333 жыл бұрын
Johnny storm is also omega level even possibly even more powerful than omega level mutants
@rain_portal2023 жыл бұрын
Human torch survives a hit from a being 4x stronger then thanos and he just had the air nocked out of him and iceman has been beat bye much weaker pryo kenisis user's, ice man froze hell but he passes out after. Also human torch had survived absolute zero. And if your using the argument that iceman could just reform over and over iceman has been blown up before and was very weak for a few day's
@reklawxero69465 жыл бұрын
Remember that time in Marvel Civil War when some random person threw a bottle and took out the Torch....heh, heh, yeah me too.
@iKingReaction186 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and keep it up
@kellymcmath42776 жыл бұрын
Iceman would win because Johnny has finite point while Bobby does not plus as u stated he is a omega level mutant. Have a nice day....916
@markmapp53886 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath have a nice day to!! But Johnny still BEAT iceman Omega level or not!!!!!
@alanreyes60826 жыл бұрын
Mark Mapp good joke
@zaytheguru25426 жыл бұрын
Johnny can't take water so an Ice tidal wave should do it Johnny will burn thru energy so fast it's not even funny
@angelmontes95286 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath just cause he is omega level dont mean he is unbeatable
@tommylee41166 жыл бұрын
Kelly McMath not to mention, Iceman FROZE HELL
@JanAkuren3 жыл бұрын
Hell>Sun Hell
@darrylisaac94003 жыл бұрын
Human torch can become hotter than the sun when he goes supernova vot iceman still wins
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
Marvel's hell is not even hot lol. If you read Amazing X-Men #2 Bobby himself said Hell isn't that hot and he passed out after freezing hell. Firestar said Bobby's ice is melting right after he passed out. I mean think about it. If hell is really as hot as you say..... then how is Storm and Firestar able to just stand in there???? think about that. Dramammu himself said Johnny has the power of a god trapped in a boy's body. Johnny's Supernova is able to destroy the entire Annihilation wave (which is a threat dangerous enough to call together most of Marvel's Cosmic based characters). And the fact that Johnny was able to take all of them with a single blast...... yeah.... Johnny's insides are literally hotter than a exploding star. Set a planet size object on fire. Not to mention Johnny has Cosmic fire
@JanAkuren3 жыл бұрын
@@painpainnn7001 Iceman freezing speed of light! isn`t plot induced stupidity or outlier feat. It can be achieved with high control over thermal energy. This ability is way more stronger than Thor's`s godblast. It literally negated Juggernaut`s force field. Robert has faster than light reactions or it`s just his ice so unique that it can tag things with speed of light.
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
@@JanAkuren i highly doubt it's stronger than Thor's goblast considering it was able to take down a hungry galactus. And Juggernaut is no Galatcus. To be fair, Johnny can move and react faster than lightspeed too, shown by his fights with cosmic level beings. He even has his own forcefields too, it's useful to protective himself from rockets and ice users. He even defeated X-Men doppelgangers by himself before.
@Cliffjumper6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Creeper from DC comics in a match up.
@markusbovarsson2045 жыл бұрын
They both have one thing in common... they are both fucking underrated
@bdhejnfj97336 жыл бұрын
Ice man vs sub zero Rip sub zero
@beentrill64346 жыл бұрын
Bdhej Nfj subzero would kill Bobby Drake
@bdhejnfj97336 жыл бұрын
BeenTrill64 can sub zero kill thousands of him that can regenerate fast
@beentrill64346 жыл бұрын
Bdhej Nfj yeah prolly not but Sub Zero is pure savage
@bdhejnfj97336 жыл бұрын
BeenTrill64 sub zero is fucked if he fights iceman
@omarxdaprodigy6 жыл бұрын
Hey listen now, Sub Zero the truth
@SantiagoOXfir6 жыл бұрын
Iceman is an omega level mutant
@tye24436 жыл бұрын
Khaliq Bryson the human torch is probably omega level
@towatchvideos55925 жыл бұрын
So? Johnny has not been rated by that level so therefore that rating is not a reliable way to compare the two.
@SantiagoOXfir2 жыл бұрын
@Kaos Nova where did you see he can turn into plasma.?
@bgpofootballfunk25916 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do reverse flash vs Superman?
@pedrocasiano71532 жыл бұрын
Dan have you ever done a video on Aquaman vs Iceman? If not have you thought about it? Interesting match.
@matthewronson52185 жыл бұрын
Johnny's only play for victory that I can see: He immediately removes all moisture from the air-and/or from Bobby's body itself- crippling or disabling Bobby, who is otherwise significantly stronger. I've read in comics that Johnny's Nova blast would take out the entire Easter Seaboard, where Bobby's power is Omega level.
@MichaelGaryScott906 жыл бұрын
Kraven the Hunter vs. Beast Boy Batman vs. Taskmaster Karate Kid vs. Iron Fist Punisher vs. Red Hood The Flash vs. Makkari The Thing vs. Solomon Grundy The Void vs. Emperor Superman Rune King Thor vs. DC Hercules Odin vs. DC Zeus
@LouisVuitton14 жыл бұрын
Karate kid vs iron fist??? Come on man that's a waste of time
@stormichow53253 жыл бұрын
Captain America has defeated Taskmaster time and time again, and Batman is about on par with Cap's combat skills.. so, Batman takes this one.
@bradley-taubnerfamily10626 жыл бұрын
yeah, finally a memeber of the fantastic four win. nice video
@cyclopsisbetterthanwolveri86516 жыл бұрын
This was another great vid
@rale3176 жыл бұрын
Both control atoms to either excite them and create heat or stop them for extreme cold. Pretty sure with their level of control there isn't anything either could do to the other that they couldn't nullify. It's hard cause both Torch and Iceman have done some colossal shit in late game. If stopping Torch's atoms won't kill him, and excited Iceman's atoms won't kill him.. It would have to come down to who has more control over the atoms. Absolute zero is a finite number. No matter what number Torch can excite the atoms to, Iceman just has to bring them back to zero. So it depends on who has more control over them. In which the best either could do is trap and hold them in that state.
@victorma9355 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily because still atom according to Einstein exerts energy which is what fission energy is all about. Bobby in order to bring stuff down to near absolute zero has to have power over the existence of that atom itself. The only thing in reality that could do what Bobby does in comic are super massive black holes, and those stuff eats suns and galaxy for living. Personally I feel Bobby wins, plus he literally can’t die.
@supermandbs37176 жыл бұрын
Vegeta vs Superman
@user-pl7ul2gc2z2 ай бұрын
Apart from iceman has frozen a hell and nuclear reactor before, I want to talk about how he is not afraid of being evaporated. He can manipulate ice and water as everyone knows,so he can create a new body using even moistures of water after he is evaporated. He is literally immortal if there’s any water on earth.
@timikelvin56183 жыл бұрын
I need you to mix this up. Put some disney and other animation character. Like elsa vs iceman
@Motorhawk25 жыл бұрын
I thought I read in some comics that the Human Torch still needed air for his powers to work and to remain conscious, if that is the case Iceman could surround Johnny with an incredibly thick wall of ice that is almost at absolute zero. When the Human Torch has burnt up all the air and his powers and consciousness fail him Bobby can claim victory.
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
uhhhhh..... Johnny survived absolute zero before from one of the Watchers, so that argument is pretty invalid. Dramammu himself said Johnny has the power of a god trapped in a boy's body. Johnny's Supernova is able to destroy the entire Annihilation wave (which is a threat dangerous enough to call together most of Marvel's Cosmic based characters). And the fact that Johnny was able to take all of them with a single blast...... yeah.... Johnny is literally hotter than a exploding star. Set a planet size object on fire. Johnny is a planet/cosmic level threat and he's too much for Bobby to handle. Considering Bobby passed out right after freezing hell, and Marvel's hell is not even close to as hot as a supernova. Considering Marvel's hell barely has flames and Storm and Firestar were able to stand in there just fine. Also Johnny's suit (the blue one, not the yellow one) allows him to flame on in airless space.
@painpainnn70013 жыл бұрын
@Gabriel Saldanha it's comics dude, nothing makes sense
@floppysocks44893 жыл бұрын
I feel ice water stops fire faster than a fire would melt ice in real life so I’d say realistically iceman wins but comic wise depends on the writer.
@crackerjacker20112 жыл бұрын
A very similar battle was already fought in the animated Spider Friends show. Both Firestar and Iceman were trapped side by side and didn't know the other was next to them. When each used their powers, the other thought they were being attacked by the room. Iceman beat Firestar back then and he would beat the Human Torch now.
@dupaul54293 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!
@fozzy1176 жыл бұрын
Iceman all the way yo!
@rain_portal2023 жыл бұрын
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@fozzy1173 жыл бұрын
@@rain_portal202 ?
@silverrain992053 жыл бұрын
@@fozzy117...
@davidtillett4106 жыл бұрын
Can johnny control hellfire?
@seinenking66626 жыл бұрын
david tillett no
@stre25084 жыл бұрын
No he can’t
@Stark1533 жыл бұрын
No.
@rain_portal2023 жыл бұрын
No
@frankhudsondjfrankgee71525 жыл бұрын
The Ultimate fight..Chaos vs. One Above All! 'Nuff said!
@mrpurplerain74765 жыл бұрын
One Above All that's easy
@virgoking19956 жыл бұрын
Could you put hellboy vs ?????
@mekhilipsey86896 жыл бұрын
Iceman has troubles fighting Pyro, a man that gets his fire from a backpack, Lol 😂. So of course Torch would win, especially if he decides to go supernova.
@looneysgamingnetwork98516 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey I agree 100% I've been saying this for years but people seem to think I'm crazy. Iceman is so overrated with this Omega Level power bullshit he would never even get close enogh to do anything to the Human Torch dude is basically like a walking sun.
@xeperandremanifestthinktan10236 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey *won't be that simple, iceman actually absorbs heat*
@mekhilipsey86896 жыл бұрын
Xeper and Remanifest Think Tank of the esoteric Not torches vast amount of heat and fire. Like I said, iceman barely beats pyro and pyro only controls fire.
@xeperandremanifestthinktan10236 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey *supernova still consist of molecules. Iceman has been known to freeze every molecule in hell. He can surely do the same to a sun*
@conceivebelieveachieve95446 жыл бұрын
Mekhi Lipsey agreed I always thought that to but I dont really know much of iceman but I think human torch wins.
@Fahim.gosling036 жыл бұрын
Thor vs Doctor Strange ........MCU one....both of them
@hisexcellency9166 жыл бұрын
Didn’t see this coming, but very valid points for torch.
@kylergrooms22216 жыл бұрын
this was a weird battle to discuss, but it was a great one to talk about
@ziadabdallah71126 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man vs Captain America please I really want to see that match
@T0rTerra6 жыл бұрын
Mine explorer Zizo no-brainer, spidey.
@drewtheboxer51256 жыл бұрын
Mine explorer Zizo spidey uf he actually tries
@savitagangwar96196 жыл бұрын
mine explorer zizo cap wins easily.
@sivalingam73816 жыл бұрын
Savita Gangwar nice joke
@spiffygonzales58996 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks cap wins watches the movies but doesn't read the comics. Roided up 1940 soldier vs unnaturally fast, Supermanly strong, sixth sense wielding, science genius, acrobatic, 15 ton benching, flipping spiderman. Ant... boot.
@One4allable6 жыл бұрын
Too hot to handle too cold to hold, need I say more?
@michaelpayne30435 жыл бұрын
bobby brown on our own
@tirrellreed82585 жыл бұрын
This must've been sooo difficult to pick a winner for without a DC character to choose from
@shragamildiner84726 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing he just transfers the kinetic every of the atoms that are moving fast (and are therefore hot) into himself.
@JoeyCap.5 жыл бұрын
If you make a small fire how quickly does it go out when you pour water on it? On the flip side Have you ever tried to set water on fire? Never going to happen Iceman wins this by landslide
@ancientsithlord33144 жыл бұрын
Yes but human torch is far to hot even for water to touch the dude melts bullets before they can touch him water will evaporate before it touches him
@kash454 жыл бұрын
Ice can extinguish fire when going head to head
@meldelgado4626 жыл бұрын
Both cool but iceman would win
@sunnyraj45645 жыл бұрын
Only one is actually.. Cool.
@infinitehwd21035 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyraj4564 lol
@lakerssuckclippersfansince80725 жыл бұрын
Fire beats ice
@MattDaBoneless Жыл бұрын
This would be a good match up but being able to reduce the ambient temperature to absolute zero in my mind is superior
@SonGokan737611 ай бұрын
Can you do Human Torch vs Sunspot?
@Ancient_Tribesman6 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody sees it my way Johnny going nova temperature and power is much more extreme than iceman going absolute zero it's not that hard to see who wins its science lol
@jayglizzy_13986 жыл бұрын
I mean the statistics Johnny will use need to be more complex to defeat icemean. Anyways great video
@salmenwinters13996 жыл бұрын
It has been shown in a comic issue that Iceman can reform his body from the water vapor or the water inside his opponent he was in an alternate universe was just his head and then he killed one of the opponents by taking the water from his body while the person was still alive to reform his whole body so he can actually do that to the Human Torch just dissipate his water molecules
@devonbuckley92335 ай бұрын
You should do Human Torch vs Pyro
@davidg81586 жыл бұрын
Killer Croc Vs The Lizard
@gamadame50816 жыл бұрын
Please do Thor vs black adam.I am seriously confused who would win between the two.
@gamadame50816 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman could you compare both of them in terms of strength, durability,speed,energy projection,etc??
@gamadame50816 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman I believe that Thor is stronger than hulk because Stan Lee himself has said and Thor has much better feats than hulk+Thor has won against hulk majority of times they fight against each other.
@gamadame50816 жыл бұрын
The Boogeyman ok I agree that black Adam can beat thor.Thanks for the reply.
@keifyboi69136 жыл бұрын
Ivan Dias thor is more powerful but hulk is stronger (potentially )
@gamadame50816 жыл бұрын
keifyboi Thor's feats are much better than hulk's.Stan has made Thor to be stronger than hulk.Yeah I agree that Hulk has the potential to be stronger so does Thor like he can enter in warrior madness that increases his strength tenfold.
@23narada6 жыл бұрын
Nate grey vs Thanos would love to see ur take on that
@brucebegone71856 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your opinion, but i respect it. Good video man. Keep it up
@Sam-er6up6 жыл бұрын
SENTRY IS BACK IN DR STRANGE 382 BIG NEWS GO SEE IT, EVEN ON THE MARVEL PAGE IT SAYS THAT THIS WILL SHAKE THE VERY MARVEL UNIVERSE ,
@cheeseburgerfreddy63506 жыл бұрын
NetSoul Where? Send me a link Pls
@Sam-er6up6 жыл бұрын
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY just google Dr Strange 382
@cheeseburgerfreddy63506 жыл бұрын
NetSoul Damn he is actually back Lols marvel made a good move bringing him back, Loki is going to be shitting himself if he see's Robert again Lols
@Sam-er6up6 жыл бұрын
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY he's cured too, although Loki will still shit himself the second he sees guy who killed him and took down asgard by himself, also next issue comes out at the 20th, it's called Sentry vs Asgard
@cheeseburgerfreddy63506 жыл бұрын
NetSoul So Loki is the sorcer supreme and has all the magic in the universe, And Dr strange goes to sentry the guy that destroyed asgard to defeat Loki? Lmfao bro that next issue is going to be crazy.
@dreamvillecoleworld23126 жыл бұрын
Iceman
@dandyramadhana44854 жыл бұрын
Could you help me about this fight ; Sunfire and Magma vs Human Torch and Fire I really no have idea if they can still hit each others or both team same can penetrate each others power
@mannypaysan6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Wonder Woman vs Reign
@tobiasbaumgartner30506 жыл бұрын
Do x-men vs avengers
@Lightbringer09995 жыл бұрын
I’m not even gonna finish the video but human torch would win bcuz torch can go super nova and take all the moisture away and is as hot or hotter than the sun when going super nova
@aroundonefern4 жыл бұрын
Fred G but iceman can exist in solid, liquid, and gas
@Frozo-nt2ky4 жыл бұрын
and btw iceman doesn't need a physical body to survive in so basically he's immortal
@jasonmoukala89093 жыл бұрын
@@Frozo-nt2ky so he can never be killed?
@Frozo-nt2ky3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmoukala8909 precisely
@jasonmoukala89093 жыл бұрын
@@Frozo-nt2ky What if you shoot him in the head or heart
@gabrielafuentes44486 жыл бұрын
I have a question for anyone who reads this comment.I had Marvels Secret Wars the month it came out.I can't recall the exact month but I think the year was between 88-90.The villian of this issue was a demigod name "BEYONDER".He fought and defeated every mutant good and evil.The Molecule Man(who if memory serves me correct was The She-Hulks boyfriend at the time)was the only one who actually put up a decent fight against the Beyonder.In the end The Beyonder was either defeated or else defeated himself and was turned into an energy source floating off into space but with a consciousness.I also had all the Thanos issues when he searched for the infinity gems to create the Infinity Gauntlet...he took a gem from The Inbetweener,Gardener,Adam Warlock(I think),Champion and Stranger and was so powerful he caused the elders of the univers to show up to state their rights to possess the Gauntlet also causing the Human Tribunal to show up who only show up when the entire universe is threatened.My question is how come the beyonder was never mention in these issues being a demigod an all?Also Champion was turned into golden baby by Thanos and traded with the gardener for the time gem (I think)the Gardener had among all his rear collections.Whatever happen with Champion?
@luisalfredo01236 жыл бұрын
Hmm 🧐 Bobby & Johnny sound like two long lost brothas 😂
@tylerchapman88566 жыл бұрын
cold is not the absence of heat.. hot and cold are measured in molecular motion
@gardeningandlife1376 жыл бұрын
tyler chapman true
@charleswilkinson55466 жыл бұрын
Dry ice for instance.
@rons22856 жыл бұрын
Heat influences molecular motion
@j-r-m77755 жыл бұрын
Yes but it is the heat that causes the motion. It's not as if hot and cold each have their own unique molecular motion. Colder and colder temperatures are just less and less motion with absolute zero being when all motion stops.
@looneylooney79856 жыл бұрын
I knew the Human Torch would win. So for all you people who said I was an idiot for thinking otherwise kiss my ass lol jk...This is my favorite video you've done so far Danco. Thanks for backing up everything I've been saying. Human Torch FTW.👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😊😊
@whitephoenixofthecrown85236 жыл бұрын
Looney Looney there is no way the Human Torch would win. Iceman froze an entire hell, and he even told Mystique that it would take a mere thought for him to handle a sun. And he did it if I am not mistaken.
@carloscarson45566 жыл бұрын
torch would win easy
@Nemoticon6 жыл бұрын
Iceman all the way. As an Omega level, he is virtually limitless in his power
@epikboyvoid70765 жыл бұрын
@@whitephoenixofthecrown8523 Ice Man VS Super Man
@whitephoenixofthecrown85235 жыл бұрын
@@epikboyvoid7076 Super man or Superman?
@brandonlayer97416 жыл бұрын
Please do Top ten most moral superheros
@brucewaite3733 Жыл бұрын
In my own head canon, I always thought the cosmic rays that gave the fantastic four their powers were some how related to the power cosmic.
@toomuchwolves6 жыл бұрын
I still think IceMan would win because of the fact that Torch doesn't have the stamina to keep up with IceMan, plus IceMan has his own form of rejuvenation which Torch doesn't. Those 2 factors can ultimately be the deciding factor favoring IceMan in the long run
@aaronhumphrey20095 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If Bobby is by a large body of water, water main, he can use the water to regenerate and attack human torch. H-T is also a mutant, created by cosmic Ray exposure. But is he Omega level ? Almost, but not quite. A lot depends on the environment that the fight happens in . Johnny might even temporary vaporize Bobby, but he'd have to use everything up in a Nova blast..a stalemate until Bobby's regeneration kicks in... couldnt he simply reform and take out the temporarily weakened HT ?
@taibanh50466 жыл бұрын
Krillin vs thanos with infinity gloves
@dopesaiyan33626 жыл бұрын
Tyler Banh You’re dumb asf my nigga, I fw DBZ heavy but I can tell you don’t know shit bout Thanos cuz yo cool ass said infinity gloves not only did you say gloves you have plural there as if there was two gauntlets
@ethancolman28492 жыл бұрын
You should do one about the flash vs human Torch
@possiblar50832 жыл бұрын
Flash stomps
@josiahpurtee11565 жыл бұрын
Can you make a fight between the Human Torch (Jim Hammond) and Pyro?