Hunting with Harris Hawks and Ferrets. Season 2019-20. Weight Management Thoughts.

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My Yorkshire Hawks

My Yorkshire Hawks

4 жыл бұрын

Hunting with Harris Hawks. Season 2019-20. Course language, viewer discretion. No action or swearing here!
We were asked to do a video on this subject. I've always avoided voicing our opinions but then thought that some personal thoughts may help others who are starting out.
These thoughts came straight off the top of my head and I realise I will have missed vital info and that others will hold different opinions. If others can give their thoughts in the comments, maybe that can help people like Adrian who are just beginning their journey.

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@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
All opinions are valid, this is a very broad subject. Please chip in for the beginners.
@Ade24621
@Ade24621 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing. I understand its just opinions, but they are valid, well reasoned and solid ones. I can't express how grateful I am that you took the time and effort to help me in this way. I hope this will help many new to the sport of raiding. You have given me a much greater understanding of diet and requirements throughout the year. Again, thank you, very much appreciated.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adrian, no 2 birds are ever the same and each handler does things differently. All the best.
@Ade24621
@Ade24621 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks That may be the case. But you have given such an incredible insight into the diet requirements throughout the year. At least now I have something to work from. By far the most comprehensive resource on feeding I have found. Again, thank you very much for helping me with such a difficult subject to cover.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ade24621 Kind words mate, really appreciated. We avoided giving opinions on our channel as falconry can be a little 'stuffy/snobbish' for some, but then thought if someone could take away something positive then it would be worth it. Happy that others have contributed comments. We are all constantly learning. 👌
@woodlandsedge3456
@woodlandsedge3456 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant you are first person I’ve seen that is not preaching very informative and straight forward I’ve been involved In falconry for 20 years and this is always my advice keep up the good work
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments friend, really appreciated. That's our ethos, we don't preach and constantly learn from others. Everyone does it differently. 👌
@robertcorradi8573
@robertcorradi8573 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video and advice..... Thank you
@stephenbyrne8357
@stephenbyrne8357 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this vid mate I'd love to see more about your maintenance and stuff .iv been hawking for four years now and love hearing about new ways of doing stuff that I can apply to what I do .the old ways are rarely the best way especially when were talking about the best interest of the animals
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, just my thoughts, we all have different ways. ATB.
@freebirdofreason1994
@freebirdofreason1994 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt , I watched this before I got my Hawk last year, it just came up again in my suggested to watch, it was certainly so spot on , I did listen to what you said but until I had been through it , was some how not as it feels now watching this again. I felt after time I could feed the right amount of food just by reading my hawk each day out, although I always weighed him I could guess his weight by watching him hunt almost. Anyway brilliant video appreciated last year , and now to see it again . Next season is going to be very different I’m sure.. Cheers Pete
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete Yeah, it's certainly going to be slightly different next season for all of us. I can understand how it might register differently now you have had Woody in the field. Even when you think you have nailed it with weight and routine, they can still have off days, just like us🙃. Looking forward to seeing your adventures next season. ATB.
@freebirdofreason1994
@freebirdofreason1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks thanks and me yours👍
@exploringww11northeastengl55
@exploringww11northeastengl55 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info matt thanks for that ,cheers
@patwhite2213
@patwhite2213 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice whatever your passion is. Get out there and do it.
@stevefryer5316
@stevefryer5316 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video I've learned so much from your videos
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Steve, cheers.
@patwhite2213
@patwhite2213 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you know what you're talking about . Keep it up!
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hetty maybe. Who decides?
@chriscasey4525
@chriscasey4525 4 жыл бұрын
matt i swear you have just let us know what is written in the harris hawks bible,brilliant matt,keep this type of video coming,well done mate
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got the vibe Chris. We learn so much from watching others. 👌😊
@stephenfarnworth5449
@stephenfarnworth5449 4 жыл бұрын
Love your video's I'm seriously thinking of starting folconry my biggest concern is noise with my neighbours cheers steve
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
You can certainly find worse things to do with your spare time, I understand the concerns about neighbour's. 👍
@dmorris199212
@dmorris199212 4 жыл бұрын
Good effort, its not easy explaining the ins and outs of falconry. A lot of variables !
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
I usually avoid giving 'advice' as we are no authority. It's the variables that make it such a broad spectrum. Cheers mate.
@shaneshac
@shaneshac 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice especially the one about the weight for response in your garden being different to that out in the field. Also the range for getting a response is different in every bird. My female operates at a much smaller range going from deadly to completely indifferent, whereas my male allows for a much larger weight range and is still as responsive and eager. Each bird has to be treated as unique and managed accordingly
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Shane. Thanks for leaving the comment, sure it will help others.
@shaneshac
@shaneshac 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks my pleasure, happy to help. Glad to see you guys enjoying days out with the hawks.
@Hanzofalconry94
@Hanzofalconry94 4 жыл бұрын
Nice👍👍
@georgehawking9126
@georgehawking9126 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Matt that should help alot of people out mate, I would say wen ure hosing bird down I reckon ure holding hose at wrong angle 😁 cracking informative vid 👍
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks George 😊 I always thought to keep opinions to yourself but then I thought to pass on knowledge if it could help someone else. Never wanted to sound like a dick 😬👌
@georgehawking9126
@georgehawking9126 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks everyone has there own way mate u couldn't of described it any better what works for 1 might not work for another but as a base I would go with this video use do well with ure birds ,and most importantly use enjoy them that's wat matters 👍
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgehawking9126 Thanks pal, them words have made me feel better for doing it. Cheers.
@georgehawking9126
@georgehawking9126 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks if I could love ure comment like ure vids mate I would ❤👍
@nrthlincspyro8622
@nrthlincspyro8622 4 жыл бұрын
So do you go for a tail mounted bell or bells on the feet Mine had tail mounted bell but came out during moult Shes not footy at all even on a kill but wiggles her tale wen I call talk to her Could you do a video on how to mount etc Planning on coping at same time Cheers good vids keep them up
@oftheglovefalconry..huntin3223
@oftheglovefalconry..huntin3223 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing advice 👌 any beginner would do well to listen can’t chip in pretty much how I do everything 🦅
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 2 жыл бұрын
Kind words mate. It's all very personal and subjective as you know. No 2 birds are the same. ATB with your adventures 👌
@oldschoolhawking8191
@oldschoolhawking8191 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Matt.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
I just thought it may help someone who was struggling to find information .🤔
@oldschoolhawking8191
@oldschoolhawking8191 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks Here in the states, we have an apprenticeship program and they have to be sponsored by an established Falconer. That program lasts two years, then the apprentice is off on their own.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldschoolhawking8191 Yeah we have different ways and yet central similarities. Love it👍ATB.
@JeremyThePlayer88
@JeremyThePlayer88 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting to get the time to listen to what you had to say, and it all makes perfect sense. There's really nothing new, and nothing surprising either! Everything was right on point! I do have a question, and you might laugh at answering it! I saw this article recently. It was of a man who had a Golden Eagle as a Falconry bird. One day, after 3 months of trapping a female Golden Eagle, he went out hunting in an open desert. She continued to chase a jackrabbit, but because she went beyond the Falconer's line-of-sight, the Falconer was unable to find her. The eagle didn't have any transmitting equipment on her, only bells. He searched for hours into the night, but with no avail. The next morning, he drove for about a mile. The eagle saw his truck and went to the last place he searched for her. She stood right on the road and waited for him. The Falconer noticed the eagle had a full crop but still returned to him regardless. He simply held out his glove full of meat and then she came back without any hesitation. This wasn't mentioned in the article but I'm guessing that the eagle had most likely had eaten the jackrabbit the day before then ate part of it the next morning. Also, I'm pretty sure that she was hunting late in the day as well, so there wasn't enough time to eat the entire meal before roosting. What else did I read? Oh, the Falconer explained that she had more training to do because of the fact that he was attending to another Golden Eagle but spent less time with that one. He also explained that he couldn't describe the bond that him and his Golden Eagle had. But here's my opinion, the reason why this Golden Eagle came back is because she wasn't quite in "hunting" mode yet and still relying on the Falconer for food. By the way, this eagle was 4 years old so this eagle suddenly decided that "Oh this is way easier to hunting, I'll just grab the food from this guy's glove," the survival rate of this eagle living alone in the wild would be virtually ZERO! That's not part of the question though. Alright here it goes, when a bird of prey eats a meal and it gets stored in its crop, does it "feel" that weight? The reason why I ask that, is because what if the Falconer from that article found his Eagle later in the afternoon after the eagle does the "crop drop"? Would they eagle still feel hungry enough to return to the glove? I always thought that a crop is just a storage tank for a bird. It can expand just like the bird's stomach does but it can hold more depending on what bird it is. If its a Kestrel, then most likely it'll hold less, but if its a Golden Eagle, it'll hold 2 lbs or so. (I'm not sure of the exact weight). I know that eagles expend a lot of energy anytime they flap their wings, so in essence, they would probably need to eat 2 jackrabbits to be above the hunting weight. I've thought about this almost every day at work and it's hard to stop thinking about it. I just really gotta know this! And I want to become a Falconer hopefully by 2021. This year, I've got plans for another career path and a side project in Real Estate. So I'm quite busy this year, but I'm always learning things about Falconry every single day.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy. I reckon the bird can feel the weight of food in the crop, like money in the bank. Such a feed like a Jack rabbit, once digested would definitely satisfy hunger. I think even with a full crop, the eagle returned to the glove because of it's bond with the owner and the understanding that an easy meal can be found there. We've had a similar occasion, Lola once consumed most of a moor hen and when she was found she came straight to Wayne's glove. Gluttony can be beneficial some times?👌👍
@JeremyThePlayer88
@JeremyThePlayer88 4 жыл бұрын
That makes me so happy to know! Its great that a hawk can decide to come back because the relationship of the Falconer is stronger than its desire to fly away after eating. At least I know that there's hope for a hawk to return! I always want to be prepared in case a mistake happens. Sorry about this, but I got one more question for the win! I read another article about a hawk that flew off from the owner because a semi-truck rolled by. Unfortunately, she was well overweight because she was still molting! Someone else found the hawk days later, but it lost weight since then. Some people chased the hawk down, but that didn't help the hawk! The hawk showed fear over everyone! I do realize that these people aren't the person that's been feeding her all this time though. If I put myself into the hawk's mind, I'd be thinking, "Who are these creatures, why are they bothering me?" The hawk was found, but only because someone netted her. Its obvious the hawk hasn't hunted for a long time because it was well into the summer months. But I know not every hawk is the same, and some hawks just don't understand why they'd rather be living in an enclosure than on a tree somewhere! So my question is, if a hawk is overweight, does that person actually "fear" the Falconer as if it never knew him or her? Also, after all the bonding that the owner did, is it enough to convince that hawk that hunting in the wild is more difficult when it hasn't done so in many months? I know, they are crazy questions, but I might as well ask you of all people! I can't be keeping this all a secret anymore!
@JeremyThePlayer88
@JeremyThePlayer88 4 жыл бұрын
A little mistake, I meant to ask does the hawk fear the Falconer?
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeremyThePlayer88 Not sure how to answer this one Jeremy. In the UK all birds are captive bred, it is illegal to trap birds. Many things can spook birds even after strong bonding but I'm sure birds who have only known captivity may view wild life as less attractive. From my experience, overweight birds do not fear their handler, they just become indifferent. No 2 birds are the same 👌
@JeremyThePlayer88
@JeremyThePlayer88 4 жыл бұрын
Oh okay. Here in the US, very few Falconers keep captive bred hawks. Harris Hawks are native to New Mexico and some of the western states, which are the only places where they can be trapped. I do know that some Harris Hawks may not survive in the wild if they were released due to being "human" imprinted. Its a totally different scenario with your hawks since the humans were the first object they saw! Thanks for answering everything you could! Its always a good feeling to be "indifferent" right!
@garethward6884
@garethward6884 3 жыл бұрын
Brill these videos mate always watching met James other week 👍
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Gareth, James is a good un👌Knows his shit.
@garethward6884
@garethward6884 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks he sorted me a box out he seems a decent bloke he said over Xmas I'll be out with u all
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
@@garethward6884 He's 1st class mate. Hope the weather turns in our favour. 🤞
@garethward6884
@garethward6884 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks yea hope so I'm out tomorrow at my local place but be great to get out with u over Xmas
@Greyskull1988
@Greyskull1988 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t think you could of done that video any better. I am currently absorbing as much information as possible. I want to get a Harris hawk myself.
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Kind words Lee. It's a rewarding journey for sure. Very personal and individual, things work differently for everyone. We're lucky because we're a group and can support each other. We all have different experiences. Keep us updated 👌
@adaharrishawk124
@adaharrishawk124 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing falconry for a few years and you can never stop learning, I’ve picked up so many tips from your hunting videos. Do you ever get near Halifax?
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Good on yer Ada mate. Halifax is a little bit north for us👍
@alanhillier1033
@alanhillier1033 3 жыл бұрын
Really good vid lads....16.08,was that a Fox?
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks Жыл бұрын
Sorry Andy, just seen this. Yes it was a fox. There's a video called something like 'Lola nails a fox'. Few years back.
@stephenbyrne8357
@stephenbyrne8357 3 жыл бұрын
Hows things mate I was wondering have you ever had issues with birds plucking? My bird plucked a lot last season when I dropped her to 2.3 lbs and she wasnt responding much over 2.3 I'm thinking I might have to start flying off appetite rather than hunger but iv never done that before
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking question mate because we have seen this also. Lola used to pluck leg feathers. We put it down to boredom and it's improved by opening up what she could see in her mews. More shit to watch means less time to be introspective.? Not sure about the appetite thing. If she is not working above 2.3lbs then maybe that's a bit heavy? You know your bird pal. And yet nothing is gospel buddy cos we've seen alsorts of monkey business. 👌
@stephenbyrne8357
@stephenbyrne8357 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks cheers mate I'll get her some swings and stuff to see if that eliminates the problem but I'm not sure it will .Its getting worse every season at 2.4 shes not sharp set but as soon as I go lower she starts plucking. Next season I'm gonna have to try do things differently and see how it goes . I wont give up on her anyway
@garethward6884
@garethward6884 3 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy could u put a mews video up at all just after some ideas thanks
@Connor-sq6bc
@Connor-sq6bc 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, this is my first season and my first bird. I have a female Harris. When you say the flying weight is when she is on the glove straight away, how many chicks/ bits of chick is that for? like would you expect her to be eager for 3 chicks or whatever. Hope that makes sense thanks
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Connor All birds are different but I guess the point is, if the bird is on your glove for the smallest amount of food then it is switched on. When it comes to small amounts, that means it is concentrated on you. When that is routine, you move to wider reign. With new/young birds this can take a bit longer.
@Connor-sq6bc
@Connor-sq6bc 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks thanks for the reply mate. What I’m trying to say is that I can have her very switched on for 1 or 2 chicks then she didn’t respond much and was slow to come to the glove. Would you expect her to be alert for say 3/4 chicks before she became full and disinterested or does it not work like that. Thanks
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 2 жыл бұрын
@@Connor-sq6bc I see what you're saying pal. It's pretty typical for the interest to drop off once she's had a few chicks. With 3 chicks in her, she's satisfied for the time being. If you let her go at that point you will most likely be staring at her in the trees for a few hours. Unless she is a greedy girl.
@Connor-sq6bc
@Connor-sq6bc 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks ok so I should be trying to find the highest weight where she will still fly back to me switched on for say 2/3 chicks? Really appreciate the advice and how fast you’ve been replying mate. Legend 👍🏼
@rileypaterson7739
@rileypaterson7739 4 жыл бұрын
hi guys I have first bird a 2 year old harris but she wont let me anywhere near her during molt is that normal ?
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Difficult question. I would say yes because of the moult Especially if heavy/well fed. When they achieve a weight that removes a desire to hunt then a kind of lethargy may set in. Stay in contact with her even when she's heavy.
@rileypaterson7739
@rileypaterson7739 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks ok thanks
@leggy6234
@leggy6234 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks I don't think Nev and Kayla get too close this time of year Matt.
@gavincole2659
@gavincole2659 3 жыл бұрын
What is the females temperament matt when you go in the mews to clean mate
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gav. Most of our birds are pretty chilled at this time of year. During down season when they are fat they become indifferent and stay away from us. Kayla gets a bit aggressive during down time then calms down for hunting season .
@gavincole2659
@gavincole2659 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks Sorry mate my bad i meant in the moult but uve just answered my question matt. next year will be my young males first moult be interesting as hes good natured NOW haha
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavincole2659 Sure he'll be cool pal if he's good now. Never had a difficult male, can't say the same for the girlies🤫😳🤬
@yaz1517
@yaz1517 4 жыл бұрын
When they are outside on the perch unattended do you ever have problems with cats
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Nah mate. I have dogs. Currently the area is owned by a 10 month old Patterdale backed up with his older, Bull Terrier brother. Cats rarely show up.
@yaz1517
@yaz1517 4 жыл бұрын
Oh alright mate, I get cats in my garden every now and then, do you reckon they would be much of a threat to a Male Harris, if so would they be able to get him on a very tall perch.thanks
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
@@yaz1517 To be honest Flawless, most cats wouldn't have the balls, most dogs don't once the birds kick off, in my experience. I like the tall perches, got to be a crazy cat to get the birds up there. That's why I have dogs, if I'm not watching, some one is. Without dogs I would find other ways to deter visiting cats.🤔👌
@CORVIDHUNTER
@CORVIDHUNTER 4 жыл бұрын
Ive just weighed the wifes sunday dinner, im hoping to make her wanna bounce more 🤪. Cracking video mate expertly narrated 👍
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
Funny AF😆👌
@harriwalley7830
@harriwalley7830 3 жыл бұрын
U want change that mesh the birds tail will end up with smashed feathers
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
I get your point. Hasn't happened yet (10+ years) as my birds don't bounce around that much but it's a valid point. 👌
@kickboxingforlife277
@kickboxingforlife277 3 жыл бұрын
I dont wana be rude because it Looks like ur a good guy but there to much "er hmmm" în This video
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 3 жыл бұрын
That's a fair comment, I don't think you're being rude. They were just some un rehearsed thoughts. ATB.
@kickboxingforlife277
@kickboxingforlife277 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyYorkshirehawks still u make cool Videos and your hawk Looks great
@michaelholt9378
@michaelholt9378 4 жыл бұрын
Stop pissing around and waistin that water
@MyYorkshirehawks
@MyYorkshirehawks 4 жыл бұрын
I know Michael I know. All part of the flowering. 😊👌
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