Relatively New Goodman System Completely Out Of Freon!

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Relatively New Goodman System Completely Out Of Freon!

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In this video I visit an apartment complex where one tenant has no cooling! #hvacguy #hvaclife #hvactrainingvideos #airconditioner #hvac #hvactechnician #furnace #hvacinstall #hvactroubleshooting #heatpump #leaksearch
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@mel904 4 ай бұрын

Turning off the disconnect was a good save. I was waiting for it to start. lol!

@realSamAndrew 4 ай бұрын

What part of the video?

@stevee7774 4 ай бұрын

@@realSamAndrew- At about 5:57 he remembers to pull the disconnect after he had started putting nitrogen in the system.

@realSamAndrew 4 ай бұрын

@@stevee7774Thank you. I don't know how I missed that even after looking for it on a rewatch 😮😮.

@zachsaul148 4 ай бұрын

Nothing I’d rather do more than listen to Curtis breathe and do badass HVAC work! Great content as always!

@DS-ss7vl Ай бұрын

I can't stand these high powered microphones. Every smack and breath drives me nuts.

@jackbrennan8476 2 күн бұрын

Good video. I'm glad you are explaining things. I am a hvac apprentice and enjoy your videos

@July4.1776 4 ай бұрын

I used to have problems running out of nitrogen. Years ago I started keeping two tanks of nitrogen on my truck. When I crack open the second tank, I replace the first tank. I can run the bottles dry and I always have plenty of nitrogen. Complete game changer.

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

They should come up with a nitrogen pump so you can fill easy, the atmosphere is like 80% nitrogen.

@drodriguez394 4 ай бұрын

@@jthonndoesn’t work that way. The air you breathe is not dry. You need to extract it, separate it and dry it, dry it with refrigeration. What you just suggested will never happen

@acrservicesmathewr7565 4 ай бұрын

Hints the name dry nitrogen lol

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

@@drodriguez394 I hear ya, they aren't going to make something to replace what they are making money on either.

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

@@acrservicesmathewr7565 You know, liquid nitrogen is as dry as it gets, right?

@kendallgleason8622 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining what you’re doing all along the way and the great camera shots from inside the equipment really helps us learn how to troubleshoot.

@CommercialGasEngineerVideos 4 ай бұрын

It sure is some good footage

@KenOcon-uz3dl 2 ай бұрын

I agree. I know nothing about HVAC repair and it’s nice to have a little more dialogue about your process and procedure for troubleshooting the problems. Troubleshooting techniques can bridge across many industries.

@kg4muc 4 ай бұрын

Good test for the ultrasonic. Great job as always

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ABC-wz2db 4 ай бұрын

We have these units where I work. Blower assembly is blocked by evaporator and a pain to replace. Also evap coils fail regularly.

@dporrasxtremeLS3 4 ай бұрын

Curtis, great video. This would be a Great video when you come back to fix. Thanks!

@JRS-iq9pz 4 ай бұрын

That's a big bill. Yikes!

@raygunsforronnie847 4 ай бұрын

Curtis, your camera shots - the 'get in tight' stuff - is really good! Thanks for upping your game!

@Vinmaster73 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video! Keep them coming. I always learn something. Especially ways I can do prevent matinance. Thanks Much!

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

@causeofdeath8941 4 ай бұрын

Man...I cannot get enough of your videos. Thank you for being a solid resource for the trade. Curious why no oil was at the leak. Too slow of a leak to carry oil with it?

@Bunkysworkshop 4 ай бұрын

So we had a Goodman system put in one other house and it stopped working after three months. The company that installed it came back and said the compressor was blown. He put a new one in and said it had blown because the system was cycling way too much and whoever installed the system didn’t set the blower speed correctly. I told the man that it was his company that did the installation of the in and outside unit. His face went red and went to the truck on his phone. Let’s just say it was replaced and I didn’t call them back.

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

That is why certain units get a bad name. It wasn't the unit's fault at all.

@Bunkysworkshop 4 ай бұрын

@@jthonn I don’t know that much about Goodman to really say if they are quality or not. What are your thoughts?

@dkinfishing 4 ай бұрын

What a smart guy he was 🤣 and good call not calling them back to your house. And Goodman units are top of the line but they work

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

@@Bunkysworkshop The one I have is a 4 ton, it is 18 years old r22. It has a slow leak that started when it was 13. I put stop leak in it last year and it is still working. Are they any good today, I don't know. I was putting about 3lbs. of freon a year in it, so I'll be posting if the stop leak worked at all when I check it, so far so good.

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

@@dkinfishing I think you meant aren't top of the line. They aren't the worst either, I would say middle of the road.

@mikemoseley8711 4 ай бұрын

Typically with Goodman, it’s a leak in the condenser like a vibration or rub out

@Bryan-Hensley 4 ай бұрын

I've yet to have a condenser to leak after installing several hundred Goodman however I always go above the quality level of most companies and I inspect all new units to see if anything can rub the insulation on the wires or lines rubbing together and secure if needed. I've personally had the most leaks from Rheem and York. Trane with the most compressor failures. If you only compare package units, Trane has the most leaks by far, but it's usually because the installer didn't do a good job and inspect the unit to see if lines were rubbing together. Yes we shouldn't have to do that but the quality of all new units, regardless of brand, is pretty much junk these days. That's why I don't push people into getting a new unit. With the new EPA standards in effect, I doubt any system will last 5 years without giving a major issue.

@Cocoa887 4 ай бұрын

Yeah that dam true suction port always rubs out its the first thing I check when I find a flat goodman or amana

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

Mine was in the evaporator. My sister in law has 2 units and the evaporator on each one went out. The warranty covered them at 7 years old. They claimed that there was a bad batch of evaporators that went out.

@dgapp76 4 ай бұрын

Trane/American Standard condensers leak where suction and discharge lines pass under the coil. Sometimes on the aluminum spine fin tubes too, directly above the suction/discharge lines.

@zeldamoore8371 4 ай бұрын

@@jthonnyes, my son has AC co. & replaced many leaking evaporator coils on Goodmans, including mine twice. He hesitated to continue to install them because of how many leaked. Reasonable priced units for customers without a lot of money.

@makinbac0n 4 ай бұрын

You will do less "knuckle bustin" if you put the adjustable wrench on the nut then adjust it so it's a tighter fit. Also less likely to strip the nut or fitting. Well done. That AccuTrak is neat.

@phillipjoy1305 4 ай бұрын

That leak detector works better if you wet the coil.GREAT VIDEOS 😊

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip

@chrisseabolt9593 4 ай бұрын

Why do you think manufacturer doesn't ever guarantee refrigerant. 410 double the pressure as r 22. Once you've been to the factory and seen the assembly line you'll never feel confident that things won't happen down the road

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

'That's a good point. I knew it was more pressure, but I didn't realise that much more. I don't know why they don't go ahead make units that use CO2 or nitrogen. That way we could release the gas and not hurt the atmosphere.

@JesseDoesHVAC 4 ай бұрын

5 years pretty much standard here in Australia 🇦🇺 But when you talk refrigerant leaks they always try to blame the installer, talking from experience

@jhill.7216 4 ай бұрын

1:44 best thing a customer has ever said salute to this guy 🫡🫡

@Cavett24 4 ай бұрын

When using the ultra sonic leak detector, I've found it really helps to wet the coil with a spray bottle of water. Another great video, thanks for sharing!

@KenOcon-uz3dl 2 ай бұрын

This comment answers my question about the leak detector. It’s ultrasonic “sound” not chemical leak detection.

@TomLawson05 4 ай бұрын

Great find on the leak look forward to the repair thanks for the video

@OcRefrig 4 ай бұрын

i Like that Leak detector ! That thing works good ! Very cool. i might have to get me one of those.

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Im still learning to use it appropriately

@realSamAndrew 4 ай бұрын

Be prepared to open your wallet wide. They ain't cheap.

@gidzey4783 Ай бұрын

Love the videos Curtis! I do HVAC in Northern MA, Southern NH. I tell my techs to watch your videos as well. My tech tip is I add Nitrogen, then a little Refrigerant and use my Fieldpiece infrared leak detector. It works great. I havent seen a setup like yours until now, i love it

@CarlosMendoza-bv5bw 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining more in depth and taking us along the way. feels like where next to you learning from a pro.

@thesilentonevictor 4 ай бұрын

Good catch curtis

@donquijote6030 4 ай бұрын

Excellent methodical troubleshooting. Well done!

@burtminshew4812 4 ай бұрын

On a Goodman/Amana.....wow that's so rare!!! Said no one everrrr

@user-sp5eh7km7j 4 ай бұрын

Of course it would be the unit behind another.

@ninnghhizziddha 4 ай бұрын

Just found a minisplit with no refrigerant in it today, have a good one Curtis!

@robalexander7348 4 ай бұрын

Curtis i look forwrd to the finished job 👍 Au

@OIC-es6pi 4 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks.

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@stevencossaboon3237 4 ай бұрын

Nice work Curtis. Hopefully you'll get the repairs.

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

I hope so too

@OcRefrig 4 ай бұрын

Great video But You don't need to replace the drier on that call. Just Evacuate & Fill it up. You filled it with nitrogen. the nitrogen has an affinity for moisture and gathers any moisture and pulls it out with it. hence the name " Dry nitrogen " only time a drier needs changed is when replacing a Compressor or doing any more than 4 welds on a system or Physically rusty or old. That system was new u said. What's changing the drier going to do for the system ? it's a new drier. it's not old , rusty or clogged up.

@xcarpkidx3128 3 ай бұрын

Well the systems was open for an extended period of time , And clearly the people who installed it didn't care to pull a vacuum so there was probably no precautions taken when brazing the unit and coil. If i was in his shoes i would also change the dryer while I'm at it

@KenOcon-uz3dl 2 ай бұрын

I tend to agree. We use a nitrogen purge box, glove box, for hi-rel electronics. The units are then sealed in that nitrogen environment per military standard 883.

@butlerstouchHVAC 4 ай бұрын

great video tech appreciate your expertise

@caru3257 4 ай бұрын

I carry two of Nitrogen and two acetylene. I forgot how many map gas bottles I got but I may downsize to two.

@optionstraderman 3 ай бұрын

Nice Job! Need to add the AccuTrak Leak detector to your tool list above for those interested in acquiring one. Looks like it works pretty well.

@andyvitz 4 ай бұрын

Cool hopefully you haveing a good day

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Thanks! You too!

@Verycrazychimken 4 ай бұрын

@HVACGUY you can accept me on the work

@user-su5ft8lc9q 4 ай бұрын

I'm retired now but i used to buy xetra nitrogen and acetylene tanks at farm sales for 5 or 10 dollars. Sure beats paying new price at the supplier.

@williamserver4332 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@christopherdelon3026 4 ай бұрын

Have seen it many times

@10forthebigguy753 4 ай бұрын

Was that leaking brass part the TXV?

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Yes, the connections on either side of it

@krishuntzeroable 4 ай бұрын

His first problem was wanting it to go below 70. 😂

@michaelillingworth7476 4 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@onenikkione 2 ай бұрын

We run ours at 68 degrees during the night and it cycles (doesn't run constantly) but we are in the Tucson, AZ area where there is very low humidity (5%), I don't know if that makes a difference?? Our single level house is 2100 sq ft running a 5-ton American Standard (2023) unit. We had day-time temps last few days 109 degrees outside.

@thepoopsoup 2 ай бұрын

I run 68 year round in Michigan

@user-fr8zl4bo6u Ай бұрын

Why do HVAC not have a dye? Like automotive industry. Makes for finding small leaks so much easier.

@manhpham8052 4 ай бұрын

vey nice troubleshooting skills, i have been hooked to your video, im mainly do commercial refrigeration, learning my way to hvac with your video. which state that u live in?

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Georgia

@manhpham8052 4 ай бұрын

@@HVACGUY i live in lawrenceville GA. Lol which city that you live?

@alexv3866 4 ай бұрын

good job.

@jose01099 4 ай бұрын

why is there no oil where it all leaked out?

@douglasvalladares2025 4 ай бұрын

When is a small leak you see oil residue, but when is a big one there is not to much signs

@woodystokes1543 4 ай бұрын

Nice work man as always. Frustrating that you have to wait for a approval while you are right there.

@billkunert7281 4 ай бұрын

Is it possible to put dye in home air conditioners like the do in automotive A/C sytems to help locate leaks?

@ninnghhizziddha 4 ай бұрын

It is, but it's not recommended, the dye is a non condensible and can gunk up valves and etc.

@caru3257 4 ай бұрын

@@ninnghhizziddhathe sealant maybe. I don’t know about the dye.

@ninnghhizziddha 4 ай бұрын

@@caru3257anything that isn't refrigerant or oil is a non-condensable in my book.

@OcRefrig 4 ай бұрын

Putting dye in a system should be a Last Resort When You Have Looked for Refrigerant leaks with leak detector & bubbles & can't find it.

@bigman55434 2 ай бұрын

My 6 year old Ruud (Rheem) system was completely out of refrigerant. The evap coil had huge leaks. Everything including furnace, A/C, line set, coil was brand new at time of installation. Quality of equipment these days is garbage. But the fact this was a $1300 repair is ridiculous. You had refrigerant and an hour or two of time.

@jthonn 4 ай бұрын

Simple fix 1300 bucks. That's a shame, but it is what it is. Nice job

@burgdudeohio Ай бұрын

Just curious how there was a leak on the interior unit with no signs of oil? Wouldn't there be an oily mess at the site of the leak?

@38mullet 4 ай бұрын

is that ultrasonic leak detector do you like it there pricey

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

It has its uses. Still need a sniffer.

@OnusBones 4 ай бұрын

Ouch. Bad original installation, or did the joint there deteriorate?

@stevee7774 4 ай бұрын

He said it was fairly new so I’d go with bad install.

@onenikkione 2 ай бұрын

Would twice a year servicing had caught this issue before it was empty??

@bobbyr8071 Ай бұрын

Todays ur lucky day 😂😂😂

@TimTakacs 3 ай бұрын

So sad that prices today are crazy high. A repair like that would have cost $240.00 in my day. Oh well times change.

@chesstime356 4 ай бұрын

Did you say $1300.00 if yes ? so I think it’s very good price for customer … nice job 👍

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Thanks

@ElonMusk-hx8yw 4 ай бұрын

My guy was inhaling freon for who knows how long

@mikepekarek6220 4 ай бұрын

Get that pressure up to 450-500 psi.

@KenOcon-uz3dl 2 ай бұрын

Are you using a mass spectrometer to sniff the leaks or just a microphone with headphones?

@tedhicks5431 4 ай бұрын

Have you yet found a good sniffer yet?

@raultorres9231 3 ай бұрын

Why would you have to replace the liquid line dryer?

@JimAlderson-cn6ek 4 ай бұрын

I haven't even watched the video two things to check first tube for suckshion reading on heatpump and Schrader on evap coil air or heatpump got over heated on install

@JimAlderson-cn6ek 4 ай бұрын

Then there's always the guy that dosnt no how to braze

@JimAlderson-cn6ek 4 ай бұрын

Can't say I haven't seen that one to its a good one man 😅😂😊

@JimAlderson-cn6ek 4 ай бұрын

Good job as always I'm retired but still like watching a good tech at work trust me after 28 years iv seen some bad ones u are the man

@andrewhennerfeind9879 4 ай бұрын

Do you have a cutoff pressure that you consider it a total loss? i.e. anything under 20 psi gets vacuum and a dryer?

@HVACGUY 4 ай бұрын

Basically zero.

@PhilipNation-xm5lh 4 ай бұрын

@@HVACGUY I agree. When someone tells me that they have to add refrigerant on an annual basis and the gauge reads zero, it's time to aggressively look for the leak before adding even if they just want it "filled."

@CarlosMendoza-bv5bw 4 ай бұрын

Hey Curtis what would happen if you flush the system with nitrogen and dont replace the filter drier ? I dont think there would be non condensables in the system especially if you pull a good vacuum