Heat Pump Runs All The Time Electric Bill Has Been High

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Water source heat pump runs all the time and electric bill has been very high.
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0:00 Intro Just Find Out What A Geo Does
0:43 Hand touch diagnostics
1:43 Looking inside a geo thermal heat pump from Climatemaster
2:22 Checking the refrigerant
3:30 Were low
4:43 Water control valve sticks causing wasted water and energy
6:30 Refrigerant leak search
8:26 Adding refrigerant
10:17 Pro Tip of the day
11:38 What a water source heat pump is and how it works
14:28 Back to replace the bad water valve
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@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

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@markcarpenter3600 Жыл бұрын

Some of those heat exchangers would be awesome portable condenser for recovering 410a

@pauldusa 2 жыл бұрын

has all bells whistles but I didn't notice a Whole house sediment filter off the well tank

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

This was a poor install done by another company.

@Ted_E_Bear 2 жыл бұрын

Rick, thanks for sharing your expertise !

@tonydelgrego2906 2 жыл бұрын

Nice repair I do like those taco zone valves

@johnwalker890 2 жыл бұрын

Good job Rick.

@SuperSquart 2 жыл бұрын

I came across a good one. I had a service call on a Bryant Evolution 2010 2 speed heat pump. It was running when the system was completely off at the stat. Contractor was not pulled in and the compressor was running backwards as well. After a wile of scratching my head found the crank case heater was shorted out and sending voltage to it. Disconnected it and replaced it all was good.

@michaelhouser4673 2 жыл бұрын

Not possible there's safety's to prevent that that whole story is a lie

@SuperSquart 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhouser4673 yea I thought the same thing till I talked with tech support. Definitely is possible

@michaelhouser4673 2 жыл бұрын

Your right it is possible if you hook the capacitor up a certain way it will make it run backwards my bad should have investigated it before commenting (insert foot in mouth) I watch you videos all the time so I like your videos you do stuff the same way I do wished I had the guts to video like you guys but I don't like criticism

@donaldpainter956 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhouser4673 I was thinking the same thing as you then I read the reply saying he talked to tech support and it is possible just goes to show I've been doing this over 30 years and when I think I know something I'll get proved that I don't know I always try to investigate like I dont know anything even my brain is telling me what I know that's why I watch this channel because I'm always learning something it might be a way of doing something I've done hundreds of times but his way is different you did show your experience by knowing about the safety on the system

@16valve64 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot sir

@BIGBOB-ew9oo 2 жыл бұрын

Use a lot of those here in South Florida in high rise condos. Use a lot of FHP units.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, they probably have a water tower on the roof?

@refrigerationconfidential4376 2 жыл бұрын

Always interested in watching this stuff 👍🏽

@cengeb 2 жыл бұрын

That is one complicated HVAC thing

@harrydickson4575 2 жыл бұрын

Great job and video 👍👍👍

@rogerlague1520 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job

@cengeb 2 жыл бұрын

Mitsubishi mini splits are the standard for all HVAC

@gregbowman3598 2 жыл бұрын

Good one Rick 👍

@MikeB9771 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike👍👍

@berylwhite2983 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job Merry Christmas and may your family be blessed

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!. God had been good to us👍

@jonnymac31 2 жыл бұрын

I was told keeping the coax under pressure helps keep iron in suspension in the water.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, I couldn't remember what the full reason was but sounds right to me 👍👍

@Eddy63 2 жыл бұрын

Good interesting little vid Rickster 👍👍👍 Thx and Merry Christmas🎅🎅🎅 to you Lora and family ...

@HughesManHVAC 2 жыл бұрын

nice one Rick

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan🤜🤛💯👍

@princesswalt4010 2 жыл бұрын

instruction reading is boring and leads to boringly predictable results! “looks like i got some figurin’ to do!” favorite tool combo: 70-1 *giggity* Happy Winter thingy, Rick! I hope you and your family have a groovy freggin new year’s!

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Walt👍👍🏆🏆

@Brooks.Mechanical.Electric 2 жыл бұрын

That valve looks like a Rain Bird irrigation system valve. Do you see those often?

@mrman3215 2 жыл бұрын

wont get me to bye that crap

@Georges3DPrinters 2 жыл бұрын

7:32 resolution is better with your phone I believe. Or wrong settings or something. Maybe return the go pro and get a dji

@Georges3DPrinters 2 жыл бұрын

Even at 1080 info on paper is not all that clear. Slightly blurry. However please keep these videos coming, especially with hydro loop/geo thermal, etc.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

I need to get a macro filter for the DJI, it's not designed to be used up close like this, the GoPro can do it and obviously my phone will do better but sometimes the action camera is just a lot easier to hit go because I could do it with the gloves on. I just got a hold of another KZfaqr that specializes in cameras and he's the one that mentioned using a macro filter. What's funny is is my DJI drone does unbelievable however I never record anything up close with it . Thanks for the feedback!

@James-vf5gs 2 жыл бұрын

I've never seen a tube in tube where the evap is around the outside of the hydronic circuit. Here in Australia at least. Part of me thinks it would be more efficient with water outside, and less of a chance to freeze over with worn/ soggy insulation.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Usually it's the water on the outside but I think that's just asking for the problems I mentioned but Your likely correct about the efficiency because they riffle the refrigerant line usually to get better heat extraction.

@daleriggle310 2 жыл бұрын

people that overpay for geothermals when they can just buy it here to air heat pump lol

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Depends where you live and look at the year this was installed. In 1999, heat pump's then didn't compare to a geo eff. They still don't without spending big money on a inverter system.

@uxwbill 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know water just ran through those and away. Seems kinda wasteful that way. I thought the water ran in a long (closed?) loop to shed heat or cold as appropriate and then came back to do it again. I've never worked on or studied one, though. (I've only ever seen one.) If well pumps could be grateful for a reduced workload, I'm sure that one is!

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Technically it's not a loop system, its coming out of the well and going out into a filed tile to drain away. Normally they are a closed loop system that recirculates the water over and over. I used the two types of loops interchangeably and I shouldn't have. Yes it's wasteful and not as common anymore.

@shine-cg9uf 2 жыл бұрын

👍💪🇺🇸🐕🎄

@joehead1294 2 жыл бұрын

While your at it throw some candlewicking string in too. LOL Just kidding.🤣

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

I'm confused 🤔😂?

@joehead1294 2 жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival Old plumbers trick.

@sterlingarcher46 2 жыл бұрын

These small systems are difficult to work on . Do they not have a Flow Switch though ? I haven't spotted it .

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Generally there's not a follow switch on these but they do sometimes have two water pressure switches to verify the system has water pressure in the coil.

@sterlingarcher46 2 жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival that's surprising to me , I would've thought they'd have at least a differential pressure switch in order to insure there's actual flow presence , not just water pressure . I wonder how they make sure to prevent freezing in case the pump fails or the valve shuts the flow off .

@ore-georgecicovic6533 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Rick i saw on one of your videos FLIR C5 thermal camera you were using if I'm not mistaken. How satisfied are you and would you recommend buying? Cheers and thanks

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

It's been good, its better than the Snap-On one I had prior, it has that outline around the picture that helps find where you are. I purchased the extended warranty just incase. That thing is not cheap and the last thing I want is for it to go out after a year.

@mrman3215 2 жыл бұрын

ark at that noise no thank you

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

What?

@tbelding 2 жыл бұрын

I really don't like the concept of an open loop heat pump. Unless the water is stored in a reservoir for house use (second floor storage tank or similar), you're just wasting water - especially on the coldest days where you can't use it for watering the garden. With a closed loop system, you can load it with low mineral content water (hire someone with a portable reverse osmosis system), and then have minimal issue with residue. I do appreciate the video - this is the first time I've watched a walkthrough on it.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I'm on a well so it can effect people like me. Thanks for the feedback👍

@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 2 жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival open loop systems like this are highly illegal in the EU. even in my country were there is no shortage of water you will have the goverment coming down hard if you install it like this.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

These are not popular around here either. I only know of a hand full that I have worked on. We're not all out to destroy the Earth but a good portion of this regulation is about the power to control the people and manipulate the price of goods and services.

@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 2 жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival its funny because closed loop geo (both horizontal and vertical) is very popular and entire neighbourhoods are fully geo-pumped. its just that anyone caught with an open loop system you could bascially end up in jail or wish you were with tens of thousands in fines and losing your licences/business. i generallyt dont bother with them due to the cost of installing the bole hole or digging out the entire garden 10ft down. air/water is much more economical and less hassle and you can get insane COP's outside winter. my own air/water pump (with floor heating) gets well into the COP 6+ when its above 55F outside.

@tbelding 2 жыл бұрын

@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld - When it's above 55 outside, we generally don't even need the heat turned on to keep the house at least 63.

@steveblake8766 2 жыл бұрын

83 thumbs up

@randomrazr 2 жыл бұрын

this more efficient then forced air?

@FerralVideo 2 жыл бұрын

When working correctly, yes. Air source heat pumps need to contend with potentially cold weather, and lose efficiency and effectiveness when the air gets too cold. Ground source/water heat pumps have a pretty steady temperature of water going through them, so they remain effective and at optimum efficiency even when it's brutally cold outside. The main drawback is that they are extremely expensive to install upfront, and as you saw here, require more significant maintenance to run their best.

@jonsaircond8520 2 жыл бұрын

Think about taking a hot pot off a stove. What's more effective at cooling it off dropping it in a sink full of water or putting it in front of a fan. Plus a huge factor as Joshua said steady water temps helps tremendously

@tbelding 2 жыл бұрын

In the Houston area, I grew up with a air source heat pump, with supplemental electric heat. In general, the electric heat wasn't used more than twenty times a year, during the absolutely coldest days. The rest of the time, the air source heat pump was fine.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Texas VS Ohio weather, it's completely different. A normal Air source heat pump takes a crap at 25*-30* outdoor air temp.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

It depends where you live, in northern states it's more efficient but not worth it in southern states.

@scott_meyer 2 жыл бұрын

That compressor sounds awful.

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

It's about to puke 😅

@scott_meyer 2 жыл бұрын

@@HVACRSurvival Can it be heard in the living space?

@HVACRSurvival 2 жыл бұрын

No, the doors are insulated. It's 21 years old and those compressors run hot normally anyways so it's surprising it lasted this long.

@realestateservicessaleshea99 2 жыл бұрын

I know for certain, I will never work on a water source heat pump never saw one.(Geothermal) I do agree,clean the PVC and also copper when using o-rings dirt is a killer. Thanks again for the videos. 🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🎯 Stay safe. Retired (werk'n)keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses!