This video only presents stats across the first year (actually 366 days due to leap year) of vehicles being unavailable. It doesn't include the stats for today's weekly update, therefore I'll present some of them here for posterity. - The Akuma was finally made available for the second time, 329 days after its previous time. - The Akuma, Comet, and Seminole Frontier all became available for the second time since being removed, the GT500 for the third time, and the Cheetah, Comet SR, Michelli GT, and Torero for the fourth time each. - 3 vehicles have still been available five times since they were removed, with 15 four times, 37 three times, 40 twice, 27 once, and still 4 zero times. - Whichever of the 4 zero availability vehicles is made available last will destroy the total time unavailable record (currently still held by the Surano) and will likely keep that record forever since it will be longer than the likely year-long unavailability period between subsequent Independece Days of the Liberator & Sovereign. - Apart from the 4 zero availability vehicles and the Liberator & Sovereign, the next longest active streak is the Cognoscenti 55 which has been available one time 65 days after being removed and not since (previously this longest streak was the Akuma as mentioned in the video). Correction: Thanks to saturn580 for pointing out that the Baller LE Armored was available in early January. This had been mistakenly attributed to the regular Baller LE by the original source I used to track this at the time. Therefore there are only 3 vehicles that haven't been available since removed (Schafter LWB Armored, Daemon, and Faggio Sport) I'll continue to keep the new sheet on broughy.com/gta5vehicleinfo up to date each week so you can see how things progress from this point on. Perhaps I'll do a follow up video this time next year to see if anything has changed.

I feel like they should’ve stopped the whole “this car is too hot to be modified” bs after they did this

They knew exactly what they were doing I got a bad feeling that GTA+ will ruin GTA 6

I see no reason the Comet couldnt't stay on the Benny's website, his website has plenty of space

Rockstar could do one of two funny yet incredibly stupid things at the end of gta online's life: 1. They just revert the removal of all of those cars as if nothing happened (or under the guise of "final dlc" content) 2. They completely forget to revert it, essentially locking out 160+ cars forever

Rockstar hates car collectors

Rockstar turning into such scumbags over the years has been so disheartening. Broughy is 100% right about what's going to come with gta 6. It's going to be so much worse...but the community doesn't care. They just accept whatever BS Rockstar dumps on them.

Funnily enough, it's about a year since I stopped playing, what a coincidence!

They really shouldn't have removed any of the vehicles that appear in traffic. Those, at least, should have been retained. Because a new player might not know about the existence of, say, the Torero, so not getting one of their own shouldn't be too annoying as they don't know what they're missing. But they're going to know, say, the Feltzer because they're often driving it, and being told to buy it online when they can't is terrible.

that intro scene showing the scale of loss had me realising a number of these are favourites i still pull out of the garage for racing or simply roaming around in something cool i was especially surprised to see the Blade on there, since i've casually been taking it in any pub Muscle Car race not realising nobody else even had the option - feel kinda bad for anyone who hasn't got it

The problem to me still is how dense Rockstar was about it. The decision was made to 'streamline the website experience'. But that more means the website is flawed rather than the amount of cars being a problem. More up to date filters (class based or, get this, a search bar) would have fixed that problem. This is a classic gaming company move. You stop selling something, put it back on sale at some point and people will rush to spend their hard earned money on it because who knows when it'll be available again. It's textbook scum class game development. And annoyingly, if they would have been upfront about that, I wouldn't even have minded it all too much. But they kept up the facade about it 'streamlining' the website. The ability to purchase cars from other players is a godsend in this instance. Even though it does create a stream of modded vehicles into the market (personally I only used it to get an Asterope GZ with the suspension lowered as you can't do that using LSC). Only annoyance is that truly rare vehicles are banned from sale, such as the Lost Slamvan.

The bad thing is, most old cars still feel good. Race worthy, nice looking, and of course INEXPENSIVE. Within the Car Club you almost never get any old releases now but rather just newer cars or boring ass weaponized bikes and cars. Even if they had the Car Club cycled only removed cars it would need to rotate weekly, not monthly to even make the appeal of GTA+ worth trying at all. Hell, even that rotates some of the same vehicles in a different slot. It's all trash, but I have no doubt they just pile code on top of code so making the dream browsing experience for cars rather than removing them is not happening.

This was the thing that finally killed the game for me. Thousands of hours logged, put up with so much bs (including starting from scratch), but this was the thing that made the game not worth playing anymore. It’s just sad seeing the state of this company.

A minor correction, the Baller LE (Armored) was available to buy at Simeon's from January 4th-10th, 2024. Thanks for painstakingly compiling this data that confirms what we all felt in our guts. Removing these cars was BS and Rockstar should be ashamed.

Literally all they had to do was make a better website for them 😒

The feature of selling your car on the car meet is available on PC now, apparently. I was not aware of that.

Instead of putting a SEARCH feature, or the eyefind site actually working if you put a car name there, they did this...

its interesting because speaking to friends about this we have decided that this FOMO strategy hasnt worked, and not only has it not worked, its had the exact opposite effect. Even though the game is old and the endgame is a nothingness mess, we would always have that occasional urge to come back and just mess around in game (usually drive around in whatever cars) and that would always keep us going, but since they made these changes, I found myself immediately being stomped out because whatever vehicle I wanted to get just wasnt there. Picture that from R*s end, you make a change to encourage people to log on and spend money, but it somehow does the opposite, stopping people from getting the random urge to play and spending their money on the wierd cars they dont own already. Im not sure how they use that info other then trying to revert the damage done in 5 while still trying to save face while quietly not including it in gta 6. They tried to use FOMO with things like the annis 300R only being availible at launch for a limited time, that didnt work. They try this, it doesnt work. what will they try next? where will the slippery slope take us?

Crazy to think its been an entire YEAR since rockstar removed all of these vehicles. 366 days ago we were all mislead into a scam full of FOMO which has affected how I and many others play this game. The state of this game and rockstar is embarrassing to say the least...

This change had the most impact on how often I play gta online... Over the last year i have spent less and less time playing. I used to play every week, right now it has been more than a month since I bother to log-in...

I know it’s been said many, _many_ times by multiple people but it can’t be said enough. The effort this guy puts in his videos is unbelievable.

Thanks for this info. Keep up the great work.

Wow this is so concise and detailed. Thank you for keeping track of this.

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Genuinely impressed with the how in-depth and accurate your vides always are. This is was very interesting to watch. Great video

Now i feel lucky for having a garage full of faggios and a Faggio mod

The swinger spawns in my autoshop all the time. Too much..

Really great video! No one else is doing content like this. Ive been playing pretty much everyday for the past 6-7+yrs. I have alot of cars & i only go for prize/podium nowadays since i customized pretty much every car i own except for a few. I got almost $60M so i dont have to be cheap. But yeah a filter by brand would of been a much better option.

You know, a great way to make up for some if the cars would be to allow us to buy the NPC cars that are parked in the carmeet

Man, I been trying to get a Cheval Surge for my EV car garage for months, I haven't even seen one on the streets.... 😮‍💨 Oh and some of the original motorcycles.

I completely agree with the better filters required on the sites and removing ones that can be stolen off the street.

One Note that could be mentioned (as I was planning a video like this before you mentioned it on the discord) The Auto shop and Bike Shop service shops do have some vehicles that you are able to buy if they are brought in by a customer, the notable ones do include the Daemon, Surano, Faggio Mod and Comet which went along time without being available. However this does take time and some luck for them to pull up in your shops.

Ooooo, Stats

If they did it correctly it could be cool. Such as exceptionally rare, classic, or unique cars. And having more interesting ways of finding them such as barnfinds similar to the weekly treasure hunts. But they haven’t done it correctly

You forgot about the autoshop client thing where you can buy cars (i got the comet from there and i saw the riata also) good vid btw.

remember, the customer car lifts in the Autoshop and customer bike spot at the Motorcycle Club can also feature vehicles that have been removed, thats how i got a lot of my bikes, including the Daemon.

thanks for the video.

Putting that maths degree to good use I see. Great video.

This killed the whole game for me. I played to get cars for my garage and it was nice because I could just get whatever I felt like getting at the moment, but now you feel incredibly pressured to get the limited cars and that sucks the fun out of it for me. At least it pushed me into playing Gran Turismo instead I guess lol

It angers me so much that they did this because there was so many cars that I really enjoy that I'd like to get for my second account

the faggio sport is available this week... but more than a year. The 'Auto Shop' with customer vehicles helps at times

Worth mentioning, you can also buy some hidden cars via the Auto Shop customers.

Thank you for the video and for reminding us of this bullsh*t that Rockstar served us

The crazy thing is though, despite their reason of removing "lesser used vehicles" they continue to add them 🤔

Inb4 they readd all the removed cars with "new and improved customization options" (a couple new liveries, maybe a spoiler) for the current exteme prices. Maybe they'll even make them be the dripfed vehicles going forward

I keep an excel sheet of all my vehicles, it was a pain to label all the ones that were removed but as I've run out of space ages ago it was needed so that I don't mess up my themed garages too much and get rid of things I can no longer replace when we get more space.

I was wondering if you had been keeping track of all this nonsense. Thank you for working a full year to gather the data, so we could really see how it has all played out. It would've been nice to see a discussion on prices. Some of the re-introduced vehicles definitely had a price increase, though it wasn't astronomical.

Good Job Mr Broughy, honestly though I was fortunate enough to have bought many of the removed vehicles prior to their removal. What affects me is the lack of availability of space to store the ones that I hadn't purchased but then win on the wheel or buy at the test track. I own all the businesses with all the garage space plus all the 10 car garages, that I am allowed to buy. I wish Rockstar would make all the 2 and 6 car garages into 10 car garages, or give me access to the 100 car garage that GTA+ members have. Or even just add more floors to the existing businesses or to the 50 car garage.

Excuse me?? It's already been a year!?

One method of obtainment you glossed over is the Auto Shop and Bike Service found in the Auto Shop and Clubhouse w/ Mod Shop upgrade, respectively. Between them, 23 additional Removed vehicles can be obtained, including the Daemon. There's also the Lucky Wheel's mystery prize, which has a set pool of cars it can give you, but when its effective odds of getting any singular car is astronomically low, it's not worth considering as a realistic method of obtainment unless there's no other way.

Has it been 1 year already? I thought it was like... yesterday '-'

I havent played gta in a year because I was mad over that update. Today started playing again and I wanted to buy a viseris, but of course it’s gone.

i abandoned this game few years ago and at that time i had all cars i wanted, which is a lot, since i like cars and like collecting. i even had a table to track which cars i have and in which garage they parked by theme. and most of that i got in the way avoiding grind or shark cards nonsense. i fear that i'll have to use this way pretty soon after starting to play gta6

Imlooking for the Infernus Super Car on Next Gen Xbox

Not that the bodhi was available a couple of months ago for the anniversary of gta 5 as well as this week

I hav most of these cars, but i have been playing for a long time. So now weekly sales/deals only get me maybe 1 or two max that i dont have or i need.... so i am not even playing much anymore.

After this whole thing started, i made one of my larger garages dedicated to base game and early update sports/classics and supercars, and tbh, buying a sports car for 100-350k feels really nice. And the vehicles are fairly basic, but they look so nice and still feel great to drive around. Only missing the Vapid Bullet lol. It really sucks that they did this, as it wouldve been essier to just buy from websites rather than waiting and hoping for a new spawn at the showroom or car meet each week, but on the bright side, it gave me something to do lol

Rockstar needs to add a new site to the game for some of these cars. Better yet, remove ones from the big two sites that are also available on Benny's and Arena Wars, but leave them on the Benny's and Arena Wars sites. Point being, you don't have to have the same car on like two different sites.

quality content 👍👍👍

This and the constant cooldown timers suck the fun out of the game.

We have to start to look at GTA differently now just like rockstar has. It’s a live service game now and will have live service systems put in place, like having to log in to see what’s in the shop. In fortnight it’s the daily rotation of skins, in gta it cars.

Naive me thinking they removed the cars because they were working on a new website store so we don't have to scroll for 5 minutes to find a car. What a damn shame this whole thing is. It got to the point that I just wish they would jack all the car prices and re-add them to the store.

My opinion update some of the npc cars give us a buy notification when entering a garage or the ls customs it would fast track everything

I remember buying up to three or four of classics like the Hustler and the Roosevelt/Roosevelt Valor, or more obscure cars like the Rat-Loader (absolutely goated car, that one), because I knew that I was unlikely to see them in the dealerships again for a very long time. Now that the LSCM car trading mechanic is available on PC, I don't really get that panic anymore. It's still such an unnecessary hassle though. I also wish there wasn't a cap on how many garages/properties I can own. I'm rapidly running out of garage space, and I've got all the 10 car garages and other garage upgrades I can buy. The rest of the high end apartments are taunting me with their unavailability

As frustrating as the website removals were, I think the energy fighting to get them back could be better used to get some backfills to specialty car modifications (more cars for Benny, arena mods, etc...)

This petty and un creative way to pad event weeks and monetise on old content was something the R* from the GTAIV years would gag in disgust. Rockstar Games as we knew it at the time GTAV launched ceased to exist years ago. GTAVI will let us know how R*-T2 operate for the first time, and it looks grim.

Dont forget about buying cars from the autoshop. I just got the GP1 for the first time. I'm anxiously waiting for the Z Type from the original car export missions.

Impressive analysis, my head was swimming. Rockstar broke the game with the Oppressor Mk. II, and i think they know this. Churchill said “why stand when you can sit?” Well, why drive when you can fly in a straight line? I do RP a little, i drive when it’s raining. But it’s like a novelty anymore. Plus, i hate that there’s no way to track whether you already purchased a car, so you don’t buy it twice.

Holy moly a year ago already.

It's great to keep this relevant because new players come in, they need to know what Rockstar is doing sometimes.

It's also been a year since the last discussion vid :D

The Tuning shop also offers cars. You can fix them for the customer or outright buy one before delivering it. I bought one that way.

To be fair, the majority of the community seems to have forgotten to talk and complain about this. It's safe to say that this will be norm from the start in GTA VI, with the online dealerships also having a rotating car inventory, and GTA+ kids having access to more cars at once. And we are just letting it happen.

Oh wow. I was actually on the lookout for Baller LE armored and Schafter LWB armored, so that I could get them for free as CEO vehicles. I didn't know they haven't been available since getting removed 😅 I know it's just 5k but it's mainly for roleplay

I'm glad you're saying the Massacro Racecar is iconic and you said it twice! It's all bs. I don't know why they wanted to copy the Fortnite item shop model. It makes no sense to do with the vehicles. I don't think anyone feels fomo regarding cars. What if I wanted to buy idk, an Adder, and it wasn't available? Maybe I would've bought Shark Cards to get it. Then I wouldn't because the car I wanted isn't available. I don't get why they did this. Worst change they've made imo. Forget any grievance with the gameplay, this is just straight up removing a feature that should've never been removed. Hate them. I watch your videos more often than I play GTAO at this point.

The Schafter LWB is also a free CEO vehicle that can be called like a Buzzard if you own one and turns your CEO status on. On that regard, the Cognoscenti 55 can't be found.

GTA 6, you have to buy shares in Rockstar Games to get exclusive access to the blista compact. Comet SR, I believe, is just one kidney. Not too bad. You don't want to know what you have to do to get an infernus.

When was the dinka thrust last available? If anyone has one on Xbox series x I would like to make a deal

some of the removed vehicles are also available for purchase through Sessanta in the auto shop. I don't see that you have considered that in your calculations

They could alleviate some of the annoyance of the availability of these removed cars if they would just do away with the "too hot" mechanic for street vehicles; if it's on the street, it should be stealable & storable; bar none, no exceptions. The name of the bloody game is Grand Theft Auto, it should live up to it. Vehicles being too hot to store was a sensible enough mechanic back in 2013 when the game first came out, but now it's just outdated & stupid.

Man I really love it when someone makes a graph thats colour coded with green, along with.. uhh, brown or red? Colourblind me over here...😔

You can steal the Daemon off the street in game. It usually spawns at Stab City, but I have come across them in the city as well. They even have The Lost logo on the seat...

Did you look for autoshop and morcycle club ?

Another way to purchase cars beyond the showrooms and Car Meet are the customer vehicles in the Auto Shop and Custom Bike Workshop of the Motorcycle Clubhouse. I tend to get the Albany Hermes in my Auto Shop pretty frequently, and the Western Daemon not being featured in one of the showrooms or Car Meet can be bypassed IF it appears in the Custom Bike Workshop of the Motorcycle Clubhouse. The game prompts me to "Press X [on Xbox Series] to purchase vehicle." You can deliver customer vehicles from either shop until the vehicle that you want appears in the shop. I hope that this helps everyone.

They're definitely experimenting with pushing the game more in a gacha direction, new thing shows up, then you have like three weeks to get it or you have to wait for a rerun in maybe five months or a year. Not liking what they're doing with the limited time liveries either, paying a million for a car you already have just to get the livery, which doesn't even unlock permanently, it's only on that specific car and you lose it if you change to a different livery. GTA 6 will be crazy with this stuff

Still don’t understand what R* was going to gain from doing this

I’ve been wanting the bohdi for ages now

What are the five special spawns and the car that returned permanently?

Been trying to spread the infernus and the Lamborghini Countach around by server hopping and advertising you can buy one off me at the car meet. So far I have sold 8 of each. After someone buys one I tell them to sell there's as I'm trying to get these discontinued cars back in circulation a bit as they are cool cars that should not be forgotten.

i've been waiting forever the fagio sport and they finally added it the 25th

1,5k hours and this was the day I was sure I won't ever get back to the game. Good job rockstar.

Interesting data

Can’t wait for other things to get fomo (in a 10 year old game btw) in the next update

Unfortunately, it seems this rampant monetization of in game content which should reasonably be free and included (instead of releasing incomplete games and adding to them over time while charging extra for the "updates") will only get worse across all platforms. They give the reasoning that modern games take huge teams of people much longer to produce, so in order to stay profitable they need to have microtransactions. I sort of get that, but the fact is, since the license agreements basically say you don't even own the games you're buying anymore, they can really do whatever they want, and since everyone is still playing the games they have no reason to stop.

As a PC player im so glad i have enough time to see what the next games online will be like before i could even buy the game

I own a Faggio Sport, and will keep this information in mind if anyone is looking for one. Also, if I’m not mistaken (and I may very well be) although there isn’t officially recognized words for what comes after thrice, I think people use frice for 4 times, and quince for 5 times.

Ngl I straight up dropped the game when I heard this was happening, didn’t play for a solid year and damn I was right to do that

I have noticed that my Auto Shop seems to be getting the same ten or so cars to do mods on. I always mean to start tracking this, but I don't care enough.

I wish they let you buy the Random NPC Cars that appear In the car meet, it would be nice and lessen the blow of losing All the car's imo

I want an og coquette. The one that was in in 2013. Haven't seen it at Simeons yet 😟