HYDRA Universe Confirmed in the MCU Multiverse! Could Red Skull Return?

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness VFX breakdown reveals a new Easter Egg for a HYDRA universe! Will Red Skull return in Secret Wars? Thanks to Keeps for sponsoring this video! Head to keeps.com/NewRockstars to get 50% off your first Keeps order.
How was HYDRA formed in the MCU, and how does its history in Agents of SHIELD affect Marvel's future plans for HYDRA in the MCU, including the possibility of Avengers Secret Wars after Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness? Erik Voss breaks down the clue we all missed in Multiverse of Madness, and how history would have to have gone down differently in this What If universe for HYDRA to take over the United States this way!
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@NewRockstars 2 жыл бұрын

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@heinricheverson 2 жыл бұрын

I've always hoped that they would reveal that not all the mcu movies take place in the same universe and it would explain the recasts in some of the movies as they're all variant universes following a singular timeline due to TVA interference. That would be awesome to follow up on in Loki season 2.

@MTGDuelist8870 2 жыл бұрын

i wanna know what the deal is with that stark-drones universe is also, awesome video :3

@willnutland5772 2 жыл бұрын

It would be great to see a red skull return even as cameo in passing. While his role was great in the first captain America film, I think seeing him rule over a modern day hydra from another universe would be great. Maybe one where Cap was transported and he was frozen

@KaladinVegapunk 2 жыл бұрын

To be honest hydra winning is a lot more realistic than real world scenarios like high castle haha, at least they had advanced tessaract tech I mean i dig high castle, but Japan had ZERO potential to win the war, their navy was toast after midway and we had them completely cornered, they didn't have the industry or manpower to recover And Germany it was even worse, the soviets had completely curbstomped them after Barbarossa, they didn't have the fuel, manpower or logistics to remotely resist once we landed in Normandy, even with jet tech, rockets, assault rifles, they just didn't have the bodies or fuel to use any of their wunderwaffes It was absolutely a foregone conclusion, the axis in our reality could never win, even with a million different what if scenarios

@Grimerpr2016 2 жыл бұрын

@@KaladinVegapunk actually the thing that nazi was obsessed with most about Germans being superior, which they actually looked at Russians as comparable to Jews, and we're throwing them in concentration camps, at the start of operation barbarosa a lot of Russians were greeting the nazi so with open arms, but once they figured out they were being thrown in concentration camps they figured they were trading 1 tyranny for another and figured just fight for stalin..

@ishaanupreti6438 2 жыл бұрын

@@KaladinVegapunk Except if they stumbled upon an Infinity Stone.

@ishaanupreti6438 2 жыл бұрын

@@KaladinVegapunk Or more realistically, if the allies made blunders.

@controlman7490 2 жыл бұрын

@@KaladinVegapunk That would defeat the purpose of the multiverse, which is infinite possibilities. If the multiverse is actually real then there are countless universes where the Nazi's won, others where Japan won, maybe even some where Russia won. Our universe is simply 1 of an infinite amount.

@b1ztake 2 жыл бұрын

Red skull was severely underused for one of the most important captain America villains, I hope he comes back

@Bobby.2000 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like he should have returned in the 3rd film. Maybe carried out what Baron did in the film, but a bit more and had a final battle with cap.

@vuxluongw 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bobby.2000 dont really see how they can fit him into that considering what Red Skull wants is more super soldiers, not the other way around like Zemo

@Bobby.2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@vuxluongw yh they could just rewrite it so that is the objective, which is what the film teases anyway, the fact Baron wants to kill them is a twist right near the end.

@Wasawoo_999 2 жыл бұрын

@R-Jacky6698 2 жыл бұрын

crossbone died like that in mcu civil war is very stupid🙄

@luckyasmr1374 2 жыл бұрын

I love the idea of a universe where Hydra won in The First Avenger or The Winter Soldier. Hydra and The Red Skull are terrifying and fascinating.

@CWazBroadwayBandGeek 2 жыл бұрын

Agents of SHIELD, Season 4, The Framework. An alternate reality where Hydra won. It’s been done.

@disneyerapowerrangers2923 2 жыл бұрын

@@CWazBroadwayBandGeek exactly.

@ryanparker4996 2 жыл бұрын

@@CWazBroadwayBandGeek I make my OWN soap, now

@joshuaa2278 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been a sucker for different versions of characters and worlds.

@andromedagalaxynebula5751 2 жыл бұрын

Comic book Thanos will appear from another universe

@roaalynfrieson8046 2 жыл бұрын

Me to that's why I love comic multiverses

@doggyiscute 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see Red Skull come back, he was such a great villain. The idea about the Hydra US having more powerful and advanced infinity stone technology would also be a really cool thing to see.

@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын

I want to see a 6 episode series on Steve returning the stones, with one episode for each stone.

@lealapple6734 2 жыл бұрын

Y e s .

@mattfortner7208 2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@tailssonicteam1604 2 жыл бұрын

There's always the How it Should have ended version of that story.

@jameshickman1641 2 жыл бұрын

oh that's very good!

@mr.iiconic 2 жыл бұрын

they'd have to really artificially create conflict for stuff like Steve just showing up and giving the ancient one the stone. it'd be 40 minutes of random battle of NY and filler just for a stone. the concept in general would work as a series of scenes in a single episode more than an entire miniseries stretching a simple idea thin to fit 6 hours.

@tlac4120 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about the possibilities with the multiverse is mindbending. Everything is possible now. Everything! 🤯

@damunaik4 2 жыл бұрын

We went along all the movies that made the Infinity Saga without knowing that they're building up a saga. Wonder how it'll be to watch all their projects now, and then watch them come together in the Secret Wars saga, if that's what it's going to be.

@ishaanupreti6438 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, it's you. Hi, I found you again.

@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын

I believe that after the death of Gamora Red skull just teleported because he had nothing to keep safe now.But where did he go,maybe returned to Earth.

@adamscyfer5567 2 жыл бұрын

he was there when natasha and clint went to get the soul stone

@nonnayerbusiness7704 2 жыл бұрын

@@adamscyfer5567 That was chronologically before Gamora's death, on a parallel universe.

@svgzgg312 2 жыл бұрын

@@adamscyfer5567 gamora = 2018, hawkeye and widow = 2012

@imjustarandomname7433 2 жыл бұрын

@@svgzgg312 parallel universe exists too tho

@ExtinctionPlayys 2 жыл бұрын

@@svgzgg312 2014 not 2012

@CaptainPikeachu 2 жыл бұрын

mcu needs to properly give acknowledgement to agents of shield, this would be a cool way to do so by building on the history that agents of shield built out

@CWazBroadwayBandGeek 2 жыл бұрын

THIS! Literally everything that’s happening in the MCU now, Madame Hydra, Inhumans, a mine Secret Warriors episode…Agents of SHIELD did first.

@poptartthefourth7295 2 жыл бұрын

@Miranda Miller technically Madame Hydra was exclusive to the Framework, which is an alternate HYDRA history

@CWazBroadwayBandGeek 2 жыл бұрын

@@poptartthefourth7295 Still the MCU tries to make it look like they did Madame Hydra first with Val, when that’s not even true. It may have been an alternate reality, but Agents of SHIELD STILL did Madame Hydra first with AIDA.

@disneyerapowerrangers2923 2 жыл бұрын

@@CWazBroadwayBandGeek the losing hope play on words with hank in what if was also done in agents of shield with mack.

@akbarkhan6772 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with everything said by everyone on this thread and op

@Castlecelt 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of potential future villains, what theories do you have for Mordo earth-838 returning in future films? Seeing his fellow illuminati killed, partly thanks to Strange, is a big driver

@ismailantar8729 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the game Marvel Future Revolution, where there is a alternate universe in which Hydra has taken over their world.

@jk_562 2 жыл бұрын

A.O.S. is still one of my favorite MCU cannons

@Skyepool 2 жыл бұрын

That universe may be the universe where Spiderman-Noir originated. At least one of the universes where Spiderman-Noir can originate.

@KoolEdits13 2 жыл бұрын

So excited to watch this video

@hashamnoman6435 2 жыл бұрын

A RedSkull with his Ego Unchecked sends shivers down my spine

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I think it's best that Shuma Gorath wasn't used, he is literally an elder god of the universe, on the same level as someone like Knull. Even in Infinity, when just an avatar/small portion of him was summoned to earth by doctor strange possessed by ebony maw, it was a bigger event than this. He's a destroyer of universes, "The emptiness outside all understanding," he wouldn't be enslaved to a universal entity like the scarlet witch, and he certainly wouldnt just be killed by a lamppost. It being gargantos really just works far, far better, as to not ruin someone like Shuma Gorath. I mean, imagine if in Moon Knight, instead of using Harrow, some one off villain from a single comic, they used Bushman, the most famous and iconic moon knight villain ever, and just had him get killed unceremoniously in the post credits, after changing literally everything about his character. If they had actually ruined MCU Shuma that badly, it would've just been awful

@jasonfinestonecolors8859 2 жыл бұрын

That's the Manhattan Bridge--not the Brooklyn Bridge. I live on that street in the shot.

@DarkExhibit11 2 жыл бұрын

Thats exciting . . .

@eddiegreencheez 2 жыл бұрын

Those Hydra symbols from agents of Shield look very darkhold-Cthon 'ish

@TheMultiverseofSpidey 2 жыл бұрын

You must always remember the ONLY rule in the Marvel Universe that is never violated - Only Uncle Ben Stays Dead....

@RaFaTEOLI 2 жыл бұрын

I love how you brought agents of shield into this ❤️

@laguy8181 2 жыл бұрын

I loved the Red Skull and it feels like he was just forgotten about too quick and easily

@dabdudesrocks1949 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a very interesting idea

@jameschinofficial 2 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda hyped to see Red Skull coming back!

@-GW- 2 жыл бұрын

I want the Red Skull to return

@GSMnocap-memesdaily- 2 жыл бұрын

This would be epic

@MarkusB37 2 жыл бұрын

Greetings Father Erik

@rojobroko5979 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see Red skull return, It would be cool to see who else could play him

@Drace90 2 жыл бұрын

But that begs the question, why where they back in the 1940's? I thought America can only punch through the multiverse, not through time.

@poptartthefourth7295 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe human history started progressing at a later date. In other words, its still 2025, but the calendar shows its the 1930’s. I’m trying really hard to make this make sense lol

@mattthestormtrooper3239 2 жыл бұрын

I hope this establishes a H.Y.D.R.A Captain America variant, just like the one from the Secret Empire

@mykindaxman 2 жыл бұрын

Are u gonna do a video on all the 27 dimentions?

@marcusyates3044 2 жыл бұрын

Captain America: "Hail Hydra"

@manuelmoralez2257 2 жыл бұрын

Oh god

@AlternateReality838 2 жыл бұрын

I had a that guess when I saw it just cuz the blimp reminded me of the hydra Manhattan from lego marvel heroes 2

@dogzilladdd6096 2 жыл бұрын

Behind the zeppelin, I think there might be a albatross plane. The plane was used during WW1 by people like the Red Baron

@evelynflores9208 2 жыл бұрын

Oh hail Hydra!!!!

@_Tree 2 жыл бұрын

Red Skull returning......Interesting?!?!? Is live to see it 💯💯💯💯

@your_homeboi2560 2 жыл бұрын

Let's go 🔥

@eianblosch3341 2 жыл бұрын

This would honestly be pretty bad ass!!! Red skull as secondary villain of secret wars would be dope!!!

@thomashart3473 2 жыл бұрын

It won't happen but I'd love something to happen in Anthony Mackie's Cap 4 & leads to Crossbones, Red Skull & Hydra Steve Rogers vs Sam's Cap, our Steve Cap & Bucky

@lga9436 2 жыл бұрын

Agents of SHIELD season 7 answered that 😅😂

@peterskorec8246 2 жыл бұрын

If red skull had returned Rhodey would be like “Booooooom looking for this?!”

@juststevejones7235 2 жыл бұрын

A return of red skull would be amazing!!!!

@dbxv2israel195 2 жыл бұрын

I hope we get to see from this universe a Red Skull variant who had succeeded in harnessing the power of the tesseract with an iron suit, like his uniform in Marvel future fight, or him in the final episode of Avengers assamble season 1, etc...

@jdmkIII 2 жыл бұрын

If Red Skull returns, it wont be Hugo Weaving anymore.

@makaihana975 2 жыл бұрын

The Hydra image at 3:12 of this video....looks very similar to the design of the MCU Darkhold if you mirror the design.

@whitenoise509 2 жыл бұрын

Guys, it's a zeppelin. Not a blimp.

@nicholasdecespedes1698 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like this universe

@JamesMLeggatJrP2E 2 жыл бұрын

Coolness

@markfloresta2436 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this can be a what if episode in what if s2

@motionbrickstudios. 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering what kind of place that was in

@edboymovies 2 жыл бұрын

Seems it would depend on the time period, is it immediately after CA? Or if it’s present day is red skull still alive?

@superjumpbros64 2 жыл бұрын

Oh.

@enzoremy2464 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the Red Skull won't be the same unless Hugo Weaving reprises the role. He is perfect for the role.

@antoniogarcia_gaming 2 жыл бұрын

Tv body Zola 🔥🔥🔥

@theflashone22 2 жыл бұрын

we need to see red skull with the hydra suit go against the civil warrior in live action.

@AlittlebitofFlexter 2 жыл бұрын

💜💜💜

@lukehalliwell8780 2 жыл бұрын

How far can marvel go before it collapses? There are limits…

@AT32556 2 жыл бұрын

lmao keep telling yourself that. Marvel has found a way to build a universe that people will always want to watch, no matter where they go. theyll continue to make huge blockbusters and billion-dollar films for ages

@gingerbreadmccann 2 жыл бұрын

It's been going down hill ever since Endgame and probably will continue to go down hill

@lukehalliwell8780 2 жыл бұрын

@@gingerbreadmccann completely agree!

@irock4031 2 жыл бұрын

The DCEU is continually failing because Marvel has taken all the excellence in the Superhero world. If Marvel collapses, everything collapses

@joshuaa2278 2 жыл бұрын

@@gingerbreadmccann Funny joke

@jamesgeeks8569 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, in regards to the devil's advocate you brought up, in the comics it is confirmed that the safest universe was one where doctor doom ruled the whole of the world.

@RStarGaming1LOL Жыл бұрын

Could be evil steve rogers (Captain Hydra)

@arnoldachu8200 2 жыл бұрын

💥💥💥😍

@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын

or in that universe the cars where just the dominant care on the road for a lil while longer

@mattfortner7208 2 жыл бұрын

wouldn't mind this topic actually being a what if episode in season 2.

@chadcognac5626 2 жыл бұрын

While all this sounds GREAT, I can’t help but wonder if they can make it fit. Let’s hope so.

@REDDEVIL9269 2 жыл бұрын

I want cosmic red skull from end game to be the cameo think that was a great version

@panicpowerhouse8158 2 жыл бұрын

I wish it could be the framework HYDRA universe from AoS... but hey weird rights thingamajig

@n.k.pierro 2 жыл бұрын

i believe that universe where hydra wins is the one from AoS season 7 if they killed Malik and then the snowball effect of events lead hydra to win because there would be no shield. no shield no captain america no avengers.

@gr8tbigtreehugger 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps we'll see Red Skull in season 2 of What If.

@markeesebutler7762 2 жыл бұрын

I would love a RED SKULL 💀 HYDRA multiverse.

@lockylock717 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what happened in that universe, cap probably didn't get the secret sauce cause our boi would of whoop that ass

@nightwing701 2 жыл бұрын

Or a Secret Emprie version of Captain America

@josenavarro8633 2 жыл бұрын

Question...were at Star Wars celebration 2022?

@JDawgstwothousand 2 жыл бұрын

Manhattan Bridge - not Brooklyn bridge.

@crackills1 2 жыл бұрын

wait.. why does that entire hydraverse have film grain?? is that what that universe looks like? if not, was it a movie?

@official_pb 2 жыл бұрын

In Lego marvel super hero’s 2 there is a game area where hydra took over a city and there was a blimp and everything!

@tamwise1979 2 жыл бұрын

True, god that game is so good. I should replay it.

@official_pb 2 жыл бұрын

@@tamwise1979 it is really fun

@itsmilan4069 2 жыл бұрын

4:36 Ich kann das den ganzen Tag machen

@theboyfazail 2 жыл бұрын

The movie going to be on Disney + soon

@ZoTheThird 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting on Red Skull for years now, he shoulda been a more dominant antagonist in the marvel franchise.

@andromedagalaxynebula5751 2 жыл бұрын

If you think about it the entire star wars Canon universe (movies/TV shows) can exist in MCU multiverse or in the same 616 universe in different galaxies.

@markfloresta2436 2 жыл бұрын

How?

@andromedagalaxynebula5751 2 жыл бұрын

@@markfloresta2436 the universe is so big

@music-bv8sy 2 жыл бұрын

Could it be the Secert Empire could be a part of this universe. Right?

@mutungiedmund2355 11 ай бұрын

It's all connected

@tilarium2 2 жыл бұрын

Not WW2 or Red Skull, that's a 1930's or earlier, I'm going to guess the 20s though. Not only are there lots of model Ts but also the Zeppelin in the background, you know, the one with the Hydra logo. I'm guessing it's a world where the German military along with Hydra won World War (wouldn't be I because, well, they won, so no II thus that was the only one).

@kalemerabasileia10 2 жыл бұрын

❤️

2 жыл бұрын

An episode titled “What if Hydra won” in What if season would be cool.

@BradSimkiss 2 жыл бұрын

That sir is a Zeppelin not a blimp

@antonioaquino4316 2 жыл бұрын

Since the multiverse opens practically every door. Imagine RedSkull trying to fight Thanos for the Space Stone

@nightwing701 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a Hydra ruled "MCU" Id recommend watching Agents of SHIELD, the second half of season 4 will be what you are looking for.

@nienkevandermispel Жыл бұрын

Was about to say the same thing

@ticsbassplace 2 жыл бұрын

Dide if he the villan in next cap movie that'd be cool

@reid_lmao 2 жыл бұрын

This is random but I would love to see some sort of What -If thing of Doctor Strange with a different infinity stoe.

@themostbritishpersonalive868 2 жыл бұрын

Doctor strange with the power stone would be fun instead of magic he just punches people in the face

@reid_lmao 2 жыл бұрын

@@themostbritishpersonalive868 Exactly, and it would raise the question how would he defeat Dormmamu. I speculated that he would be able to kill those follower guys before they even brung the dark dimension to earth.

@themostbritishpersonalive868 2 жыл бұрын

@@reid_lmao by punching them in the face yeah

@avtolick 2 жыл бұрын

It was confirmed in Loki with Hydra helicarrier

@LazyCoder20 2 жыл бұрын

Although some of the Disney+ marvel series like Agent of Shields and Netflix marvel series like Daredevil or Punisher were good. But I think it's better to consider them non Canon to the main MCU . If they consider them as another universe part then it would be easy for maintaining the continuity to the main MCU.

@darthmomin8276 2 жыл бұрын

Wait we’re getting a Battleworld series I’m confused lmao I got so lost

@squishycacti 2 жыл бұрын

The “what if” could be that Hydra joined the Triple Alliance during World War One instead of joining during WW2. Perhaps with hydra being active in ww1 the Zimmerman code could have never been intercepted from internal hydra affairs in America reaching Mexico thus having Mexico align with Hydra to invade from the south while the triple alliance invaded from the east coast taking Washington D.C. That’s my take on some real historical events with my own little spin on it. Ww1 was from 1914-1918 so tin Lizzie’s still would’ve been heavily produced not to mention the blimp looks to be from around that era in history.

@jayhoav2120 2 жыл бұрын

love your theories ( even if they come to be true) cause they always make sense. will we ever get real explanations from marvel about all those universes that we saw in DStrange2 ?

@ruuruu6104 2 жыл бұрын

thats entirely up to marvel

@jayhoav2120 2 жыл бұрын

@@ruuruu6104 well yea duh. That was a very generic and pointless response lol

@ruuruu6104 2 жыл бұрын

@@jayhoav2120 pointless response for a pointless question

@halfdeadwizard1009 2 жыл бұрын

Agents of SHIELD and Marvel TV is 100% canon despite a couple continuity errors like different looking Darkhold and no mention of the blip. There hasn't been any official announcements saying otherwise. Helstrom is the only Marvel TV project confirmed by the director as not canon.