Hydraulic vs Mechanical Bike Disk Brakes - Which is Better?

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hoohoohoblin

hoohoohoblin

7 жыл бұрын

Many bikes come with disk brakes now. The cheaper ones have mechanical disc brakes, and the more expensive ones come with hydraulic disc brake systems. Which one is better? Are hydraulic disc brakes on a bicycle better than mechanical disc brakes? In this video I tell you the pros and cons of each type of brake, and you can decide whether hydraulic disc brakes are best for your bike, or if you want to put mechanical disc brakes on your bicycle. I found that mechanical disc brakes are much more reliable and lower maintenance than hydraulic disc brakes, but the lever effort is higher when you are stopping your bike. Hydraulic disc brakes can get spongy and stop working, and they require regular maintenance and bleeding to keep them working properly. Because of this, I prefer mechanical disc brakes over hydraulic disc brakes on my mountain bike. In this video you get to see hydraulic brakes and mechanical disc brakes on two mountain bikes, and hear me compare them so you can decide which one is better.
Here is where you can get a Shimano brake bleeding kit with mineral oil if you have hydraulic disc brakes like the bike in the video.
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@albertgarcia2309
@albertgarcia2309 4 жыл бұрын
The best brakes is the Tree in front off you.
@lukecarlin9946
@lukecarlin9946 4 жыл бұрын
Cheapest and lighted also slows down faster. I like your thinking
@nevetstv7262
@nevetstv7262 4 жыл бұрын
its the best way to brake your biking career
@quarryspanish
@quarryspanish 4 жыл бұрын
Or a small child.
@svazquez714
@svazquez714 4 жыл бұрын
Or the floor if you flip.
@johnhanley9946
@johnhanley9946 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 🌳
@sonorangaming449
@sonorangaming449 6 жыл бұрын
Go brakeless
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea. That would solve all my problems.
@TheFedericohiguain2
@TheFedericohiguain2 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking flintstone the bike using your feet lol
@ibrahimjoshkun2503
@ibrahimjoshkun2503 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@richardthomas8832
@richardthomas8832 5 жыл бұрын
jam ur foot between the frame and back tire. always hated the clutter of the cables as a kid and that's what I preferred anyway. ur shoe is the brake pad lol but hey it worked and I'm still breathing
@slimetime4668
@slimetime4668 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Thomas do you you seriously think that would work riding dh? Like seriously? Your not riding a bmx bike on the street...idiotic comment
@ytubesucksazznow
@ytubesucksazznow 6 жыл бұрын
the ones that stop you before a crash are the best brakes. ^^
@manchester250
@manchester250 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@gavinbritt1349
@gavinbritt1349 5 жыл бұрын
You definitely did not bleed the hydraulic brakes right, they should feel consistent all the way through the pull and make sure you use the right fluid
@gerardsimone6717
@gerardsimone6717 4 жыл бұрын
Yep hydraulic is the way to go if u know what ur doing I have hydraulic and will never go back to mechanical what a difference
@liamb9249
@liamb9249 4 жыл бұрын
I have had constant problems with hydros normal discs are so much easier
@edwin702
@edwin702 3 жыл бұрын
And that's exactly what he meant by more maintenance.
@rniejx4219
@rniejx4219 3 жыл бұрын
He didnt adjust the mech brakes right either.
@jackoboy2238
@jackoboy2238 3 жыл бұрын
On other words people who are too lazy or to stupid to bleed hydraulic brakes shouldn't get them good thing I know how to
@creepergamingboy
@creepergamingboy 6 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic brakes are less work and mechanical are more work I think the problem you had with hydraulic was because they were old and not well looked after I have use both types and I have to say hydraulic brakes are better and any mtb that has used hydraulic brakes will probable say they are better too
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+creepergamingboy hydraulic brakes definitely are easier to pull the lever on, but more problematic to maintain and repair. The brakes on the green bike are a little over a year old, and we have had to bleed them twice because they kept losing stopping power.
@rubensingley2440
@rubensingley2440 6 жыл бұрын
That is a normal amount of bleeding for hydraulic breaks.
@tomfothergill2801
@tomfothergill2801 6 жыл бұрын
Hydraulics any day of the week without question
@cracka5431
@cracka5431 6 жыл бұрын
My Avid Juicy 3s haven't been bled for over 2 years and they still run great.
@daynephillips9948
@daynephillips9948 6 жыл бұрын
Don't need to perform a full bleed if brakes feel spongy - just "burp" them.
@mobius-1503
@mobius-1503 6 жыл бұрын
Iv never had issue with mech brakes or their power. I run az deserts xc trails weekly. 60 mile treks in flagstaff/sedona. Brutal terrain and have neever had an issue. They are very reliable and strong systems. Its all on proper adjusment on the cables and thats it with standard single finger braking. And carrying a 6ft spool of cable in ur tool kit for out in the field repair is instant. I dont understand whats all the hate. Everyone here claims hydro systems like your running a formula 1 down the muslanne. Pretty pathetic really. Hype of carbon, brain on the dereilluer. Unreal what mtb has become lol. Waiting for umbrellas and frappacino machine on them next..
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thanks. That is what I thought when I made the video, but everyone in the world except you seems to disagree with me.
@YouLikeToast
@YouLikeToast 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I prefer mechanical disc brakes. I get more feel through the lever, and as far as finger effort goes, you could just get a different lever with a different amount of leverage. If it matters that much to you. Like I see zero advantage to hydraulic brakes on a bicycle. On a car? Sure. Bicycle? Ehhhh. Overkill. Makes it less simple and reliable. More of a pain in the ass. More maintenance. And realistically no significant performance difference. It's pretty rediculous if you ask me lol.
@Crazyoldman84
@Crazyoldman84 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who speaks my language. My old 90s barracuda arrival still has perfect original mechanical brakes with no issues.
@marviorose7614
@marviorose7614 3 жыл бұрын
Same here mech all the way less trips to the local bk shops with mech vs hydra
@MTBPinas
@MTBPinas 3 жыл бұрын
Mech brakes are easier and cheaper to maintain. Just spend a few minutes adjusting them and you should be good.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 6 жыл бұрын
I have never had issues with mechanical brakes jamming up, but they have seals.
@ArtzFenix
@ArtzFenix 5 жыл бұрын
For how I ride (road mostly) and for lower maintenance I'd go with the mechs. Thanks for the comparison.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I think that’s a smart choice.
@avi.d04
@avi.d04 5 жыл бұрын
I ride mechanical on the rear and hydraulic on the front, don't ask why I just like to have the actual feel when power sliding down a hill.
@STN-jq5jf
@STN-jq5jf 3 жыл бұрын
I like that idea
@k9keo
@k9keo 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this I didn’t know there were 2 types. Thanks for the review.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@geoff4705
@geoff4705 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for your analysis and opinion!
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@ukandrew
@ukandrew 4 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation and honest opinion that makes perfect sense. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. As you can see by the comments, this is a very controversial subject, but I really like my cable disc brakes.
@certicarsuk
@certicarsuk 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone give me any tips on buying a mountain bike with disc brakes I don't mind which ones but on a budget of 180 pounds and this is a little thing which I would like is the gears to be one of those thumb and index finger paddles rather than the other rubber things and I know my budget is way too tight
@coreypierce4888
@coreypierce4888 6 жыл бұрын
I've owned a few bikes, the first decent one I had came with the same shimano hydro brakes that are on that bike and they work decent. I moved to a newer XC bike with avid elixer 5 and they work better but not super better. I then got a dirt jumper with bottom line sram guide levers and i can say with absolute certainty, nicer brakes will make a huge difference. I even rode my first decent bike because I sold it to a friend, and it had almost no braking power compared to the srams.
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 4 жыл бұрын
Great points! I am trying to figure out what's the best for my son's breaks. pros and cons are really helpful.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ronlaverdiere
@ronlaverdiere 2 жыл бұрын
The brakes that work will help prevent your son's breaks.
@robbae9307
@robbae9307 6 жыл бұрын
I have a road bike with wired brakes, and my hands get tired after a while from using them when racing, but my dads hydraulic one doesn’t tire you out as much. i also have a hybrid bike (trek DS) with hydraulic brake. i haven’t encountered an issue with them yet, and they’re rlly good. i guess i’m fine with the higher maintenance if my hands don’t have to be stiff at the end of the day
@paimei6798
@paimei6798 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome feed back I also have the mechanical they are avid bb7 ballbearing works great once dialed in but are super adjustable I'm now working on my front forks getting those manatou makhors 100mm I have a 26"frame small trials mostly commuter bike every day rain sleet hail got several tires and carbon bars stem n seat post great job on reviews alot of people get away from this sport once they start seeing prices but remember some big box bikes are now equivalent to what people mtb racers where riding when this sport started bro with your bike add parts as needed main focus should be skills and assembly thanks for another great post
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. A lot of people really hate this video. I appreciate the positive comment. I think the mechanical brakes are fine for most purposes, and I probably better than really cheap hydraulic brakes. The Manitou Markhor fork works really well when we ride the bike on downhill trails. I like it better than the Rockshox Recon on the other bike. You will be really happy with it.
@johnm91326
@johnm91326 6 жыл бұрын
How often do you slam on the brakes fully? Hydrolic brakes require much less force in normal use than cable ones, especially if you don't use the worst possible ones to use in your comparison
@Ineedahandle75
@Ineedahandle75 5 жыл бұрын
I think he pretty much hit the nail on the head with this video.
@e-gasaddiction8153
@e-gasaddiction8153 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for that video. Recently I bought a mosso legarda 1824 hydraulic by shimano. but I found out that I'm 250lbs and hydraulic brakes did great job stopping me. even I done stoppies.
@plsniper
@plsniper 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a straight forward answer. Thank you! Bleeding brakes, spungy... yep, I'm going with the mechanical ones.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi 6 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic brake lines clearly are easier to fit to the bike than having cables flopping around. I dont race but find them more convenient than changing stretched and worn out cables. I think they are LESS maintenance prone.
@fujiuser1968
@fujiuser1968 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with some good points..I still use Avid BB5 on the rear and BB7 on the front,matched with Avid SD7 levers,which means I can adjust reach,bite point and the lever pull ratio (never seen that on hydraulics) ,sure I get a little arm pump but I can feel everything the brakes are doing,to me hydraulics are like a switch,well the Shimano 1s I tried were :-)
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good set up. My bike has the really cheap mechanical brakes, but I know that the higher end ones are really good.
@holzwurm_hd7029
@holzwurm_hd7029 4 жыл бұрын
I hope there'd be an adapter so i can use my Roadbike shift brakes with hydraulic cylinder brakes.
@ethankeadle9745
@ethankeadle9745 5 жыл бұрын
Overall, though, valid points in support of mechanical brakes were made here.
@Mrhybrid_89
@Mrhybrid_89 6 жыл бұрын
What should I do to fix this problem on my tektro hydraulic brakes? The front has no issue ever slams tight! The rear one though after holding it does exactly what he said about the spongey feeling that you have to somewhat pump it.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+SGT KUSHM4N You either need to burp it or bleed it. Look up brake burping on KZfaq and you will find a how to video. If it needs bleeding, you will need special tools.
@paudrgz
@paudrgz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ❤️
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@nikolaynikolov7485
@nikolaynikolov7485 4 жыл бұрын
helpful video. thank you.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@sdy0108
@sdy0108 6 жыл бұрын
I have both different brakes on two of my bikes and I'm going to have to go with the hydraulic brakes but like you said they do get spongey and I'm not sure how to fix that without bringing it to a shop
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
It probably needs to have the fluid replaced and bubbles bled out.
@shaikhsyafiq5669
@shaikhsyafiq5669 5 жыл бұрын
i have avid mech bb7 on my yeti asx, and i love it!
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
There’s a good breaks. They are better than the ones on my bike.
@timeismoney9684
@timeismoney9684 4 жыл бұрын
So I recently bought some hydraulic brakes that come with new rotors. The rotors are 160 but look nice, the ones I have now are 180. Would the 160s with hydraulics perform better than mechanical with 180s?
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
I bet they both have the same stopping power. Realistically, either one would be able to lock up the wheel at high-speed. The difference with hydraulics is the lever effort is a lot lower, so it takes less muscle to pull the lever.
@schrunken
@schrunken 6 жыл бұрын
I bougt a Focus MTB back in 2004, Magura Julie hydraulic discbrakes. The bike has been used regularly and the only thing I had to do with the brakes was changing the pads.
@victorgiannella8463
@victorgiannella8463 6 жыл бұрын
I get like 1200 miles out of an entry level brake set ($30 a front or rear brake complete) but with the shimano deore brakes I’ve been running are super reliable and super powerful I also notice a lot less fade from hydraulics and I have more feel with the hydros
@marcusvonteichman3724
@marcusvonteichman3724 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same hydraulic shimano brakes and I had had lots of problems that the brake was not strong enough. After a while I bent both levers. I changed the brake levers to shorter ones and after that they were flawless. There was more power and I didn't have to worry about the lever being to big. I would recommend to do it
@antonioZaRasFiNaLbOsS
@antonioZaRasFiNaLbOsS Жыл бұрын
Which model are these?
@judesantillan
@judesantillan 3 жыл бұрын
nice man thanks for sharing
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@kcg795
@kcg795 4 жыл бұрын
My bike came with mechanical disc brakes on the front. They didn't stop worth a crap. Seemed like I had to wait for the brakes to heat up a bit before they'd start gripping. Swapped them out for hydraulic brakes couldn't be happier. Now I'm in the process of upgrading from v-brakes in the rear to hydraulic disc brakes. I just love how the handle feels compared to mechanical. I also don't miss having to adjust my front brakes and it's going to be so nice that I won't have to adjust my rear brakes either. It's like carburetor vs. fuel injection. Trying to keep a carburetor finely tuned is tedious. Might as well go with fuel injection and be done with it.
@thysonsacclaim
@thysonsacclaim Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you just didn't have them installed right.
@oly2495
@oly2495 6 жыл бұрын
Hi is there a way of adjusting the force i have to apply to my mechanical disk brake levers its quite alot harder with my back brake the the front one especially when i need to use 1 or 2 fingers, Thanks and i always enjoy watching your vids
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
You might be able to find a different lever that gives you more of a mechanical advantage. Or try moving the lever over towards the center of the handlebars, so you are pulling on the end of the lever rather than the middle of it. You will have more leverage that way.
@Jonathan-jq5cl
@Jonathan-jq5cl 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I’ve been thinking, I want I low maintenance reliable breaking system even if the preformance is slightly lower.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A lot of people disagree with me in the comments, but I still think mechanical has a lot of benefits.
@ronlaverdiere
@ronlaverdiere 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why you would want something if it reliably breaks. I think the entire point of a low maintenance braking system is that it does not break often.
@javianbrown8627
@javianbrown8627 2 жыл бұрын
Wait so the same way all the fluid can squirt out of a hydrolic, can't the cables snap on a mechanical brake? I've had multiple cables snap on me while I'm going down hill and the cables aren't cheap to replace (for me). so when It does happen which is easier/cheaper to replace? Do you just add more fluid to the hydraulic? do you have to buy whole new cables for it too just like the Mechanical? (I've never used hydrolic)
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 Жыл бұрын
Last i checked the fluid is expensive and you need to top it up multiple times a month Where as mechanical that dont happen they just work Tho in your case the cables are snapping? Either you ARE fitting them wrong or you ARE buying crap ones I have been abusing bikes for almost 2 decades and not once had a brake cable snap let alone multiple times Your either crushing too hard, using the wrong angle, not using STEEL cables or something else that YOU are doing wrong because the cables shouldn’t snap!! Only way i can see them snapping is you constantly bottoming out the breaks and pulling way harder than you need too And if thats the case your breaks must suck as you are either grinding your wheels to death or your breaks are slipping
@MrMccurley
@MrMccurley 4 жыл бұрын
Am building an E-fatbike, set up as a land crawler. Made the mistake of buying a Juin Tech DB-1 hydraulic system. After watching several videos on how to bleed Shimano and SRAM/Avid systems, I've decided to eat that cost and go with something that does not require the most idiotic bleeding procedures I've ever seen. This video clinched it for me. Thank you...
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. The mechanical brakes will have the same stopping power, and will be a lot more reliable and lower maintenance. The only difference is that you have to pull the lever a little harder when you want to stop, but I don’t find that to be an issue at all with my bike.
@DimitriosKvs
@DimitriosKvs Жыл бұрын
What’s the shimano brakes model? Do you have the number?
@egeayvala1799
@egeayvala1799 4 жыл бұрын
i know for dirt jumping people who do mad tailwhips and barspins need hydralic ones cause cables will be too long and like it wont have stopping power
@yakarotsennin3115
@yakarotsennin3115 4 жыл бұрын
When will we get frictionless disk brakes?
@zifergaming1958
@zifergaming1958 6 жыл бұрын
You have same brakes on the silver bike as i do (I mean the system what allows you to change gears)
@Shyzah
@Shyzah 6 жыл бұрын
Imo v brakes are the best they get me the most girls
@thrustvectoring8120
@thrustvectoring8120 6 жыл бұрын
V brakes aint got nothin on spoon brakes! Now these get you real bitches! V and discs are shit, ain't good for nuthin, spoons rock!
@kris8263
@kris8263 6 жыл бұрын
Your grandma doesn't count bro ;)
@nigween2951
@nigween2951 6 жыл бұрын
Y'all all wimps, I go brakeless, chainless, and seatless
@kris8263
@kris8263 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@Kostas283
@Kostas283 6 жыл бұрын
Nigween i go bikeless
@jcabslovesu2
@jcabslovesu2 14 күн бұрын
I am new to biking. I just learned to bike using my husbands' childhood old trek mountain bike. I finally bought my first bike from REI because I really like their return policy + free 1 yr maintenance. I decided to go with a hybrid as my first bike, mechanical breaks. All my biking friends keep saying get an hydraulic breaks but I really need something that's low maintenance. Thank you for this review.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 8 күн бұрын
You’re welcome. They are easy to adjust, and should be super reliable. I think you made the right choice.
@aaronp9835
@aaronp9835 5 жыл бұрын
I have the MT200s and got a better set of pads for my 2020 Trek Roscoe 7. So far they work great but im getting some Shimano M-8020 4 pstons soon.
@rorypatton25
@rorypatton25 2 жыл бұрын
What are the shifter and brakes called on the hard tail
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 2 жыл бұрын
It has a Shimano Acera shifter, and Tektro mechanical brakes.
@officialanorak584
@officialanorak584 6 жыл бұрын
In my opinion hydraulic is the way to go. I bought a new MTB recently with hydraulic brakes and it just feels like there is so much more force applied
@tohhanshen2905
@tohhanshen2905 4 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same hydraulic brakes and had the same spongy problem while riding down bumpy trails. Got the air bubbles out and that fixed the problem.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Bleeding will fix it. I bought the Shimano bleeding kit, and these brakes need bleeding about once a year.
@tohhanshen2905
@tohhanshen2905 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoohoohoblin that's considered bleeding? Bleeding doesn't involve flushing the system?
@adriandionson9599
@adriandionson9599 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice 🥰😘
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.
@amberdev5634
@amberdev5634 13 күн бұрын
I want to buy a new bike, i am just wondering wheater to go for hydraulic or mechanical, I have always only used rim brakes.. What i am afraid of is that the hydraulic breakes are atleast three times costlier and I am afraid that, the bike may fall at some point duringy tour and I end up spilling the oil or damaging the hd break... Mech break seems to be reliable... Or am I wrong are hd breaks fragile.?
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 8 күн бұрын
I believe, mechanical brakes are more reliable, and easier to maintain as long as you learn how to adjust them, which is very easy. With cheap hydraulic brakes, they can leak and lose fluid.
@richardjeffery517
@richardjeffery517 5 жыл бұрын
What works better when its faulty,cable calipers
@jaycoops9026
@jaycoops9026 5 жыл бұрын
The hose on my Shimano brakes burst downhill so my Carrera Vulcan now has mechanical brakes
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
After riding downhill with both types of brakes, I trust the mechanicals more. Hydraulics do have less lever effort and better feel.
@rbmtbjim
@rbmtbjim 6 жыл бұрын
All I can say is try bombing down Heartbreak ridge in North Carolina with mech brakes. With my SLX hydros just needed one finger on each brake lever. With mech brakes that would never work ( talking from experience). I have also found my hydros to be way less maintenance.
@davidsenay2811
@davidsenay2811 2 ай бұрын
I agree... My bike brake went out on my hydraulic brakes and now I'm trying to learn how to fix it
@tastemysaucer
@tastemysaucer 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of swapping my hydraulic brakes for mechs because I find the bleeding such a difficult task, and there isn't a proper bike shop for a looong way
@nammanimma9407
@nammanimma9407 3 жыл бұрын
whats that machine called ? @3:02
@johnmorris3776
@johnmorris3776 6 жыл бұрын
If you have a diy Atomic Zombie recumbent like I have it can get costly to build a left "front" to match up with the right brake because both of my brakes are in the back and no manufactures front brakes with 1700mm hoses .
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. I guess it’s tough to fit hydraulic brakes in the situations where the wheel is far away. In that case a mechanical brake would be pretty easy to set up
@koss9488
@koss9488 4 жыл бұрын
Why should I have to change the brake fluid on a freaking bicycle every year while no vehicle maker requires a yearly fluid change interval?
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! My cable disc brakes just work all the time with a little bit of adjustment every once in a while. The hydraulics get squishy and require bleeding or additional fluid to keep working right. The Shimano brakes on the green bike are pretty easy to add fluid to, but it’s still inconvenient and dangerous when they go squishy in the middle of a downhill ride.
@unogazzy84
@unogazzy84 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. That's why I'm gonna buy the TRP Spyke brake caliper.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
I just took a look at their website. That sounds like a good unit.
@unogazzy84
@unogazzy84 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't like about it is how the mechanical pad adjuster works. On every mechanical brake calliper I've used, there have been a click-system, like on the Avid BB7. On the TRP spyke, it have only a screw, on both sides, with loctite on. It still has a lot of good reviews though.
@chrisbow1776
@chrisbow1776 Жыл бұрын
I am a complete novice with bikes, but considering buying a mountain bike with hydraulic brakes. I am curious, why you would need to frequently bleed the brakes? With a car etc you don't bleed the brakes unless you have opened the brake system and replaced the hydraulic oil, why would you need to on a bike?
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin Жыл бұрын
Good question. I don’t know the answer, but we have to bleed them often.
@michaelcrawford2726
@michaelcrawford2726 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you didnt mention is that sometimes is better to have only 1 finger on the brake, and hydralic allows you to lock up with one finger where you might not be able to with mechanical.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Michael Crawford yes. Very true. There is a lot less lever effort. You don’t notice it much on short rides, but when I do downhill all day, the hydraulics are definitely better in terms of lever effort and arm fatigue.
@Mike-pi6rv
@Mike-pi6rv 6 жыл бұрын
This. Needing only 1 finger covering the brake leaves (for most people) 4 fingers on the bars to deal with rough terrain at high speed.
@itech301
@itech301 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of running hydros because I keep having brake cables snap
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 Жыл бұрын
Take your bike to a shop and have them fit the cables because they should NEVER snap so clearly your buying the wrong cables or in one way or multiple ways installing them wrong Either that or you are pulling way to hard on your brakes because you wheels are slipping which means incorrect calibration be it the left side pad not being adjusted or the brake pads and or disk being too crap or too small for your bike + rider weight and hill steepness
@jatinmahadik8396
@jatinmahadik8396 6 жыл бұрын
which is best disk brake
@canwegetsubswithfewvideos
@canwegetsubswithfewvideos 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference of mechanical and hydraulic
@justiceonly9105
@justiceonly9105 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the video. My mechanical disk brakes have no effect for the first 80% pull then a sudden stop, how to fix it and make it gradual please? Thank you
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
If you tighten the cable, then it will engage sooner in the lever pull.
@joshharper5207
@joshharper5207 6 жыл бұрын
Have you never heard of topping up your hydrolic brakes with fluid?
@sihilius
@sihilius Ай бұрын
So you take extra bike fluid on a quick bike tour on a Sunday afternoon? Possibly spill it over your hands and eat afterwards or just cycle home with your oily hands? Sorry, not for me.
@scottgauthier993
@scottgauthier993 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a question for your and you subscriber, i have mechanical disk brakes on my front wheel and v-break on my rear wheel. Is this a good combo ? or should i change my rear v-break and go full disk? Thanks and have a good day!
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
I think that’s fine. There’s no problem with that. Both of those types of brakes work, so if I were you I would just keep it that way.
@scottgauthier993
@scottgauthier993 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoohoohoblin Thanks for the answer I appreciate it. Have a nice day!
@mortlow6688
@mortlow6688 4 жыл бұрын
I like the bulletproof all weather/temprature workin trp spyre....They are the ak 47 of disc brakes and complete enough power for my gravel/cross bike....
@Edwordless
@Edwordless 3 жыл бұрын
I’m having so many issues with my Shimano hydraulic system. Shops don’t seem to bleed them well, so they’re spongy and fail. I bled them myself and got all the air bubbles out, but the front one exploded! Turns out the ceramic piston was shattered. Replaced it and got things all put together and it felt great. After one ride they are leaking again. Meanwhile, I can still jump on my Jamis from 2003 with mechanical disk brakes and stop no problem, without ever even replacing the cables, and rarely lubing them! I’m about to switch out the hydraulic for cables, or else just go back to using my feet!
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I learned how to bleed the Shimano brakes, and they’re working OK now, but definitely less reliable and require more maintenance than mechanical brakes.
@MitchellEgle
@MitchellEgle 6 жыл бұрын
I heard that the hydraulics in cold weather below 35 degrees don't work I think if you're riding a bike that is less than 150 lbs mechanical brakes are just fine. I agree a waste of money along with high maintenance issues it's not worth it.. But I'm sure there are some good uses for them but not for your every day biking needs..As with all disc brakes one should never pull on the front brake lever to fast & to hard let alone hydraulics respond much faster & may result in flip overs the worst type of falls of face plants... Nice vid of info thanks for sharing...
@samdanin4125
@samdanin4125 3 жыл бұрын
What helmet you using
@johngta7172
@johngta7172 3 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic brakes are 20% better than wire brakes, but also 1000% more expensive and 500% more headaches
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Mechanical brakes are much lower maintenance.
@amyx231
@amyx231 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! $120 a year to maintain them is a bit much (annual maintenance fee)
@KitariItsSomethingRottenHere
@KitariItsSomethingRottenHere 4 жыл бұрын
*The first bike I bought had mechanical disc brakes, after that I bought one with Hydraulic and the difference in the perfomance is inmese, the response of the Hydraulic ones is amazing, I can go 40 KM/H and stop suddenly without issues.*
@gyorgyt.2246
@gyorgyt.2246 3 жыл бұрын
I can go 50 KM/H and stop suddenly without issues with mechanical :D
@brodenmurray4047
@brodenmurray4047 4 жыл бұрын
My bike brake cable goes through the fram on my gaint atx2, and it has hydraulic disc brakes and i have never any problems with them
@radiocontrolled9181
@radiocontrolled9181 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrauic disc brakes with a cable? This must be the latest tech? LOOLL
@pacoDA9
@pacoDA9 6 жыл бұрын
What is the model of the full suspension? Atroz?
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Diamondback Recoil Comp.
@alexbraun2243
@alexbraun2243 6 жыл бұрын
Before I moved to hydraulic disc brakes I had a cantilever on the front and a v-brake on the back and it worked fine... there may be a merit for thinking that you could have a hydraulic in the back and maybe a mechanical one at the front
@charlielewis7191
@charlielewis7191 6 жыл бұрын
those are the lowest end hydraulic brakes you can get and nearly cost the same as the mechanical ones
@garym2899
@garym2899 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. It really helped clear up the differences in the braking systems.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome.
@chrisk3195
@chrisk3195 6 жыл бұрын
So, you compare the cheapest brakes against each other and then claim that i should "save my money" and go with the mechanical? Call me an idiot, but I am going to stick with my mid-level Shimano SLX brakeset that works flawlessly. I have had these brakes for about 2 years and have had to perform very little maintenance on them. Once a year i change the mineral fluid, the brake pads and ride. My next door neighbor has the mechanical brakes on an entry level Mongoose and they require a lot more maintenance and I can stop in half the distance. Of course there is a weight difference between my neighbor and myself, I weigh 200 lbs. with a 24 lb. bike and he weighs 145 lbs. with a 32 lb. bike.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Christopher Kytle stick with it if it works for you. I’ve seen my son and his friends have a lot of problems with various levels of hydraulic brakes. We ended up buying a bleeding kit, and we’re going to learn how to do all the work on them ourselves, because it costs a lot at a bike shop. When they’ve had problems with the brakes, they have been at downhill bike parks, and had to pay the bike shop to fix them.
@chrisk3195
@chrisk3195 6 жыл бұрын
Hayes makes a nice feeler gauge specifically for aligning the caliper, works great. The GMBN videos on how to bleed help a lot getting rid of small air bubbles and I personally like the metal pads over the resin ones with the Ice Tech rotors. I have had zero fade with that set up. The last big trick I do is only wash my bike with Dawn dish washing soap, too many high tech soaps have additives that the brakes do not agree with. Good Luck and please message me if I can help you.
@skeds9512
@skeds9512 6 жыл бұрын
I like my sram guide :)
@jacol9990
@jacol9990 6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Kytle machanicals can be just a good you just need to get good ones
@at-teclonetrooper2482
@at-teclonetrooper2482 6 жыл бұрын
Those Shimano brakes in the video are very reliable though.. used to had those then upgraded to xt , could not feel the difference
@motarded4214
@motarded4214 6 жыл бұрын
4 years in and I've only done yearly maintenance on my XT hydraulic brakes...
@MisoElEven
@MisoElEven 4 жыл бұрын
5 years and I never did it...as far as I can remember theyre about the same :D Though Im not riding too demanding trails, just stuff we have over here..a few jumps, steep descents but most of the time is spent getting up the hills
@emiliafogelberg5911
@emiliafogelberg5911 2 ай бұрын
I went from Hayes MX5 mechanical to Hayes Dominion hydraulic. Why didn’t I do it sooner. The difference is huge. They are so much lighter touch and easier to dose the power with smoother breaking and no more locking up wheels.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 2 ай бұрын
You’re right that it is an easier pole. That really does make a big difference if you’re doing a lot of braking. For regular riding around town, I don’t notice the difference, but when we do downhill mountain, biking with the ski lift taking us up the hill, mechanical brakes, make your hands tired by the middle of the day.
@nekomeido
@nekomeido 4 жыл бұрын
What happens if there is no Hydraulic fluid ? I think my bike is loosing some.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
If it all leaks out, the brakes won’t work at all. The front and rear are separate, so if one of them loses all its fluid, the other brake will still work.
@nekomeido
@nekomeido 4 жыл бұрын
@@hoohoohoblin Only one is loosing a little bit but its fixable.
@nigween2951
@nigween2951 6 жыл бұрын
Modulation is better with hydraulics. You definitely do not want to lock up brakes. Hydraulics give you more control on how much power you can apply before you lock up. The low lever pull force that you mentioned is a big one. The harder you have to press, the more arm pump you get. Hydralucs can be pressed with one finger while stopping you with a tremendous amount of force. In my experience, mechanical takes more force, I usually have to use two fingers with mechanicals.
@mechreports1
@mechreports1 5 жыл бұрын
I have hydraulic brakes on my MTB, i have had high end cable brakes and hydraulic brakes. i can say for sure that the hydraulic brakes have much better stopping power, are easy to pull on, very low maintenance and in my case they self adjust so they "Set themselves up" for me. today i bled them for the first time in about 4 years and thats all i have ever had to do with them (pads changed of course) but other than that no maintenance. They work so well, cable driven is not too bad i had a good set that i had to mess about with alot and even replace the cable at one point. there is much more to go wrong on cable driven IMO. the cable can come loose and be dangerous as it slips, there is alot of adjusting that needs to be done to get it right. the bleed procedure is simple on most brakes now and so it makes maintaining them alot easier. plus the whole system is lubricated including the pistons via the oil, so this means you rarely have to grease them unlike the cable driven. each to their own i guess but 4 years on my brakes and done little to no maintenance, and i dont have to fiddle about with them on the trail as the non existent cable does not come loose. that was my big gripe about the high end cable brakes i had, yes hydraulic is more expensive but i think they work great and require little maintenance from the end user and are reliable. seems a shame you guys had a bad experience with them as they can be really good, i wont ever go back to cable thanks for the video by the way :)
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good info. I think what happened to us was that we got the cheapest possible hydraulic brakes. I bet they more expensive ones are great. And we were using the bike for downhill riding at a bike park, so the brakes got really hot and faded.
@mihaiberbece1998
@mihaiberbece1998 5 жыл бұрын
I've been riding my Stoke CRX-8 for the second year (season) now and the only maintenance for the Tektro disk brakes was changing the pads. The braking power seems still solid, a little bit dimmed on the rear wheel, due to more usage, to be fair, I assume, however there were no leakings or any other issues. The braking power is consistent and highly reliable, especially when commuting in traffic where, when encountering unexpected situations, immediate breaking saves you from trouble. I tried both mechanical rim and disk brakes and so far, but I would never turn back, over the hydraulic disk brakes.
@denys2776
@denys2776 4 жыл бұрын
I use mechanical on my gt pantera sport, I ride in NYC, not s professional rider because I just got off a single speed into MTB, but I have 10 years of riding experience on a bicycle, I'm 16, and they require low maintenance, I don't know how to do any trick except 2 stroke lil wheelie but I have got balance when going no hands
@bruta
@bruta 4 жыл бұрын
yeah I'm gonna stick to mechanicals :D
@ronlaverdiere
@ronlaverdiere 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but cable or hydraulic?
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
I've got bikes with both and the mechanicals do stop fine. But it is much more work and way crappier feel. A lot more anxiety if you have to stop fast.
@Thvich1
@Thvich1 6 жыл бұрын
Disagree, i have mechs and hydro in my two bikes, the Shimano deore are just another world compared to my mech, going fast downhill the deores are just flawless meanwhile the mechs are terrible
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Thvich1 hydraulics are great when they’re working, but we’ve had problems with them on various bikes. The bike in the video is an entry-level hydraulic brake bike, but on my sons friends high-end hydraulic brake bikes, they’ve also had problems. I bought a brake bleeding kit and some oil, so we can fix it at the bottom of the mountain when we need to, but the scary thing is when your brakes stop working in the middle of a downhill run. That happened to me yesterday, and it was not fun.
@xanderfpv2629
@xanderfpv2629 6 жыл бұрын
hoohoohoblin maybe because your sons friend doesn't know how to look after them, and actually I'd say there is more to go wrong with the mechanical because dirt can easily get in and jam crap up and if the cable is bent it will cause friction and that means you'll have to put more effort into braking, a well looked after hydraulic brake will always outperform a mechanical braking system no matter how nice and clean you keep it even on High end mechanical braking systems which you won't find because people realize that hydraulic is the way to go.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 5 жыл бұрын
I've got deore hydraulic brakes on my bike, I've changed the pads once (last year) and that is it, going on 4 years. I ride quite a bit, alot of fast tight trails, though not mountain descents. I've taken spills with them, bent the handle bars, ripped off the rear shock switch. I've never had a single issue with the hydraulic brakes. What I like about this is them are so easy and quick, "1 finger brakes", it makes for a fun day, I do not worry about not being able to stop exactly as I want too. On note: if you notice you are pulling further, change the pads, they are cheap and you don't risk wearing through them.
@realkilju
@realkilju 6 жыл бұрын
In my bike i have hydraulic disc brakes i have never maintenaced them in 2 years and they still work perfectly
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Xantteboy That is good. You should check the brake pads and bleed them pretty soon.
@igo.m.d.austin8687
@igo.m.d.austin8687 6 жыл бұрын
Uh correct me if im wrong but the green bike's fork is backwards
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+AJ La that’s the way Manitou designs their forks. I don’t know why they do it that way, other than to look different, but everyone always tells you you have a backwards fork if you have a Manitou fork.
@ThePeanutization
@ThePeanutization Ай бұрын
Now I'm wondering how much squeezing I do to stop downhill with my rim brakes
@coen8323
@coen8323 6 жыл бұрын
If you bought a new or a properly maintained bike the hydraulic disc brakes are more reliable and need less maintenance and have waaaaay more stopping power
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Mr Cow you are definitely right about the power, but the reliability is questionable. My sons friends with their mountain bikes always have to go to the pro shop and get the bled when we go riding, and most of them have really high and set ups, but at some point the hydraulic brakes stop working. It happened to me this weekend in big bear with my rear brake. I think it would’ve been happier if it was mechanical, and I could trust it.
@maxlancaster665
@maxlancaster665 6 жыл бұрын
I have owned my bike with hydraulic brakes for about two years now. Never once have I had to bleed them. They are no high end brakes but they are way stronger than any mechanical brakes I know.
@maxlancaster665
@maxlancaster665 6 жыл бұрын
Might I also say that I only need one finger to lock up the wheels
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 6 жыл бұрын
he is not right about the power, the power depends on the size of pad surface, dual piston mechanical brake with as much pad surface, and exact rotors, & properly set up, should perform as well, the Rotor heat dissipation, where floating rotors make a huge difference, properly sized pistons, will make a difference too, because of more even force applied.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 6 жыл бұрын
with dual piston mechanical brakes you can use one finger if they are set up properly, I can do a stoopie with one finger with my TRP Spyke.
@rosscameron2852
@rosscameron2852 4 жыл бұрын
why is the fork on backwards on the bike with hydraulic brakes.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
That is how Manitou build their forks. I don’t know why. There might be a engineering reason, or maybe they’re just trying to look different.
@richardshirey586
@richardshirey586 5 жыл бұрын
Best move ever ripped hydralic off put in trash put on set of mechanical disc no problems strong brakes good in cold weather and heavy brakin. Ill never run hydros again .
@jdjhfyeetlolblueye327
@jdjhfyeetlolblueye327 6 жыл бұрын
You know nothing about mountain biking. Like really who says mechanical disc brakes are better. No decent rider would chose to have mechanical brakes. There is a reason why every top pro and every reasonable mountain biker used hydraulic disc brakes over mechanical discs. Hydraulic brakes have smoother modulation, way more stoping power and when maintained and well looked after they work no matter the conditions.
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 6 жыл бұрын
+Robert Lucas Yes. If you have money, time, or the skills to maintain hydraulics, they are better. The mechanical setup is simpler, with less to go wrong. My son’s dirt jump bike has an Avid BB7 mechanical disk brake, and it is nice.
@mazditzo
@mazditzo 6 жыл бұрын
I believe there is nothing wrong with both of the brakes type. It just personal and funcional choice. On my everyday trail fullsus slx all the way while on my touring bike, avid bb7 for easy repair while on the tour ( 1000 miles in non english speaking country lol)
@MCatwar
@MCatwar 6 жыл бұрын
after going my entire life (albeit it's not long) with mechanical brakes on my bikes, hydraulic is an insane difference. the learning curve for maintaining a hydraulic system was well worth it in the end when your braking power is increased almost exponentially, if I were to say. However, that learning curve does get quite frustrating.
@Cakeborb
@Cakeborb 6 жыл бұрын
hoohoohoblin maintainance of hydraulic brakes is bleeding them once a year, IF you use them an indredible amount and you prefer them to feel extremely solid. You can get away with bleeding them less, and that's all the maintainance.
@MCatwar
@MCatwar 6 жыл бұрын
cakeba, i tried my friend's marlin 5 with mechanical brakes, they require so much effort its insane. i have a marlin 6 with hydraulics, it's been well over a year and the brakes are just fine, no oil leaks, no nothing. they have felt a little spongy before, but pump them a few times and they regain their firmness. overall, mechanical brakes are easier to maintain, but require more maintenance. hydraulics though, are harder to maintain but require little to no maintenance.(the only downside i can see with hydraulics is brake fluid boiling, which can stop all braking power. however, a mechanical cable can snap as well)
@alexpetree2038
@alexpetree2038 6 жыл бұрын
I bought I used talon 0 29er from 12, and it's hydraulic avid juicy 1s work flawlessly. Hydraulic brakes work as well as you treat them. And trust me, this bike wasn't taken care of in the best way. It has rust on its shifters and lots of chips.
@Sciron
@Sciron 4 жыл бұрын
I have the hydraulics and love them!!!
@hoohoohoblin
@hoohoohoblin 4 жыл бұрын
They are great when they’re working. Once you figure out how to bleed them, it’s really not that difficult. We have to do it about once a year with this bike.
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