Hydrostatic transmissions with fixed or variable hydraulic pumps and fixed or variable motor combinations provide an extended range of motor speeds and torques.
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@leynagh4 жыл бұрын
As a 19yr old engineering apprentice in the toolroom and development depts, I worked on developing such a system 50 yrs ago. Performance wise it was a great success and was shown on TV installed on a dumper truck climbing a near 45 degree incline. The trouble was no-one was prepared to pay for this vastly more expensive system when they were already happy with our gearboxes.
@jooseppib1082 Жыл бұрын
Sounds strange when gearboxes axles and diff systems are waaay more expensive than hydraulic drivelines are
@peanuts2105 Жыл бұрын
Never knew this. As a aircraft engineer, I thought they were exclusively for aircraft hydraulic pumps. Well, you learn something new everyday. Thanks KZfaq
@urbanturbine Жыл бұрын
Even riding lawn mowers have been using this for decades :)
@RobertThz3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I've never understood why anyone would use such a "needlessly" complicated transmission, but when I see how easily it can be regulated with a simple swash plate, it all makes sense.
@bo-dine7971 Жыл бұрын
It's the most simple transmission and can probably the most efficient one out there, which is why it makes sense to use it on combine harvesters & such.
@Sausketo3 ай бұрын
My only questions (for drag racing purposes) are how much hp these could handle? What wears down/breaks? Does the fluid get too hot? How do the cylinder walls wear under heavy load? How much pressure can the seals hold? Can it be made lightweight enough to compete with geared transmissions
@reforgedcriterion14712 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I always wondered how they worked but never thought to look it up. A multi piston pump like a sanden compressor (rebuilt those for a living once upon a time) and the valve is part of the drive motor itself. Very cool! Man I'd love to tear one of those completely apart.
@veegee242 жыл бұрын
Wait what? That's not how it works. It's a variable piston pump connected to a fixed displacement piston motor in this video.
@riflebone11 жыл бұрын
I like all of your animations - very educational.
@aleksandarsmileski236011 жыл бұрын
Great job just keep on going! Greetings from Macedonia
@eduveloper11 жыл бұрын
gonna use this one in my classroom, thanks!
@dingdongsyo8 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mekanizmalar, keep it up!
@preston12106810 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Just so happened the last time I mowed my lawn with my 1330 Cub Cadet which has Hydro I could not figure out why my reverse all of a sudden was going so slow. After watching this and knowing now how it works, I found the problem straight away. The drive lever was bent not allowing it to go full reverse. FIXED!
@mekanizmalar10 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston, thank you for your nice comment. I really appreciate that you take your time and let me know that it helped you. Comments like yours makes me keep going.
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your nice comment and support. This animation will be in my web site soon.
@yellowhammer47475 жыл бұрын
THAMKS FOR POSTING ALL OF THESE BREAKDOWNS ON ENGINE PERFORMANCE. YOU ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED SIR!
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your encouragement and support.
@chaithanyakanneganti31104 жыл бұрын
Please add audio to this video clip we are not able to hear voice
@wickiezulu8 жыл бұрын
Always wondered how this transmission system would work in a car, heard that BMC tested HST / H-CVT in an Austin A35 and Mini as well as investigated for the Austin 1100 with suggestions that a thoroughly developed HST system would likely rival or even become bigger than DAF's own Variomatic CVT system.
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@loucipher677 жыл бұрын
cool vid now I understand how my mower works thanks mekanizmalar
@mekanizmalar7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your visit and nice comment.
@michellesteiner8504 жыл бұрын
Simpsons videos please
@michellesteiner8504 жыл бұрын
Simpsons video please
@__78787 жыл бұрын
Honda has used hydraulic CVT's in their ATV's (Hondamatic), and in one of their motorcycles (HFT). -- No wear issues
@mddin202011 жыл бұрын
Great animation.. much much easier to understand.. ^^ keep on the good work.. btw.. can i use this animation to show to my classmate for learning purpose?
@pascalfilion26203 жыл бұрын
What causes a hydrostatic drive system to have slow drive speed in all direction. Is it when it's stuck in de-stroke.
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
When the arm is perpendicular, the speed is zero. When the arm is all the way forward or backward, then the speed will be maximum in one or in the other direction. However, I spent so much time to adjust speed in between, between zero and maximum, but I failed. Please look at my variable displacement piston pump to see, these speed changes changes. Or look at my Hydraulic transmission animation for symbolic representation of this circuit.
@Flightstar10 жыл бұрын
Because turbine have slip and would be inefficient for slow speed power transmission. This system uses a positive displacement pump that is very efficient at these speeds.
@telesniper28 жыл бұрын
Efficency issue is through heat loss in fluid. The more turbulent the flow, the more loss. Turbulent defined by force acted on fluid over time (power) and geometry of space through which it flows. That being said, for vehicle, this is no problem. A simple mechanical planetary differental, with a smaller hydrostatic used as an input, would still give a very wide range of control over ratio. Simple!
@javierloharces73026 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use the animations and interact ourselves, not just watching the video?
@knightrider154510 жыл бұрын
So would it suck at highway driving/usage?
@ListenToLearn_J10 жыл бұрын
why low efficiency? is that due to leakages??
@jeroen480511 жыл бұрын
when do you have the most speed?
@ahobimo7322 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, you could eliminate the engine-side pump with a series of hydraulic lines and check valves. And if you used a two-stroke, opposing-piston engine, you wouldn't even need a crankshaft! You could control speed and direction of the motor output by varying the angle of the swash plate. But I'm not sure if such a design would be feasible in practice.
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
Water is a corrosive substance and does not have lubricating effect. The oil molecules structured such that they adhere surface of the piston and cylinders. This creates surface coatings which enable the piston slide inside the cylinder. Water does not have this property. Dip your hand into a bucket full of water and take it out and wait a couple of minutes, no trace of water will be on your hand. Do the same thing with olive oil; unless you wash your hand with soap it is very discomforting.
@meesiphht2769 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, either I can't hear the explanation or there is simply too little info on what's what for me to understand what is going on.
@iguanapete3809 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Who invented it?
@velqt3 жыл бұрын
Germany tried putting a hydrostatic drive in a pz. 4 in 1944
@supersiem14316 жыл бұрын
so there is no frition between the motor and wheels if i'm correct?
@mekanizmalar6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for visiting my channel and your comment. As far as friction goes, in nature there are frictions everywhere. Every operation one way or another has a friction.
@SomeOrdinaryJanitor2 жыл бұрын
brought here by the experimental Pz.IV with a Hydrostatic drive.
@remember25october9 жыл бұрын
I wish I could push those pistons on the left not by rotating that disc, but immediately by power of internal combustion.
@samuelonthewall2 жыл бұрын
Would this type of transmission ever be a good idea for a regular car?
@seyhanersoy89892 жыл бұрын
I don't know. However, it is used in farm machines.
@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014Ай бұрын
Why is it called "hydrostatic" and not just "hydraulic"?
@stevehuston59782 жыл бұрын
My johnsered lawnmore transmission will not work it slips
@craigmonteforte14784 жыл бұрын
It’s actually so cool on how simple it really is ive been thinking on how it would work on a small boat utilizing a Aircooled motor my theory is that there would be no need to pump raw water into the boat for cooling like most Marine Systems do IMO thats always been a accident waiting to happen Creating easier mechanisms to sink a Vessel especially that many of those systems use rubber hoses around hot motors
@mixanthony10 жыл бұрын
what are the limiting factors, if any, that this mechanical principle can not be scaled up to create high enough gear ratios from 0 to 100 mph for use in automobiles?
@mekanizmalar10 жыл бұрын
I think that Hydrostatic transmission are not as efficient as geared transmissions. Also they may require more maintenance. Someone more experienced in this subject may give us better answer I hope.
@mixanthony10 жыл бұрын
interesting....thanks!
@rolandrempfher44939 жыл бұрын
mixanthony
@davidabram53229 жыл бұрын
There is Yamaha R1 2WD motorbike built with hydrostatiç CVT for the front wheel. The drive seems to have so many advantages why is it not in routine use in all motorvehicles? Not much on internet. No gears, power at level needed, efficient, no drive shaft, easy maintenance, low weight, what is wrong with it?
@warryckscown56206 жыл бұрын
cost!
@pleindespoir6 жыл бұрын
efficiency decreases with speed
@bo-dine7971 Жыл бұрын
As the other guy said, at higher RPM the efficiency decreases. So, it's great for combine harvesters & alike, but not great for bikes if you care about top speed. In a normal belt CVT, you don't have that much of a loss at higher RPM + it's way more simple in practise.
@knightrider154511 жыл бұрын
What happened when you just put water in it?
@RevAldea6 жыл бұрын
There has been uses of Teflon { = poly te tra fluor ethylene } coted even in hydraulic systems and Otto two stroke cycle engines but these all went to way-side due to the costs and up keep of these parts. But Teflon is the only way to use water as a hydraulic fluid in such a system. but the water must be kept ultra clean at all times, this means lots of maintenance cycles which would raise the operating cost to own such as these. So designers just stick with the tried and trusted methods. Look at American Motors Corp {AMC}, Chrysler, and even GM all these car makers got into having many lots maintenance cycles during the warranties They All went broke but AMC got bought by Chrysler who got helped by US government and GM reorganise too, with help of the US government. Both are now making cars and trucks that fewer maintenance cycle during warranty. So if it will cost the user to much time and/or money, the user will stop buying your products. Also do not get the oil companies upset at you. They just might change the rating method on you without telling you, without enough time to retool you product to use the new stuff. IE: Chrysler Lean burn carburetors ran very poorly for a little while back in the nearly the middle 1970's. The fuel called gasoline octane rating when from middle of the Lean to Riches Richness Curve to the middle of the middle to full Richness to middle richness at the same octane value plus a small amount. If you want to do the math here it is in full as per FAA approved classes full Rich mixture is 100 Octane and full Lean mixture which is 70 Octane, making the half way point being 85 Octane rating 100-70 =30 30/2 == 15 then 70 Octane plus 15 equals 85 Octane dead middle of the full Octane rating curve. But if take the middle mean rich curve that is about 87.4 Octane M.R.C. or less when mean rich is the above 85 Octane is the middle of the first curve while the second curve is around 87 Octane that is say 92.5 Octane full rich and 85 = 175/2 = 87.5 well that the number over simplified there is compression rate here which gets canceled out in the algy-math but is to say the percents by volume ratio for real gasoline was 7.625% oxygen to fuel and oxygen is 1/5 air aprox! for full lean mix and very close to 1.3686% Air to one part fuel for a full max mix while mean rich is 1/2 way from middle to 1/2 full rich to middle richness of 85 Octane. And then offset the this by the required 10% Ethanol by 10% of 88.5 time 90% {0.9} you will finally get the new mean mean richness 79.875 Octane middle of middle of that you get 84.46875 Octane IE: 87 Octane there about close enough for government work. Now Many may have go through hoops to get their, Please believe that most just cancel out when expand to full Algebra mathematics to do this until you are in to such or that you want to be there internet courses to back to speed or even teach you the full workings of math all of it right here on the internet. I say go for it. and then see that my have over simplified it. or may have errored which possible, I am only human but go proof it your self.
@KIRANKUMAR-ei3hn8 жыл бұрын
Is this transmission used in JCB
@ph11p35407 жыл бұрын
Some bulldozers and very large off highway mining dump trucks use hydrostatic drives. Can anyone give me an idea why a hydrostatic system would be used on such heavy equipment? My only experience with a hydrostatic drives was on small engined landscaping equipment.
@D8W2P47 жыл бұрын
Infinitely variable and has basically nothing to break.
@TLuu1647 жыл бұрын
It could transfer more force. The liquid transfer the force along the axis. It's good for heavy load or long-distance, i.e drilling.
@knightrider154511 жыл бұрын
I still don't get it why can it be just a turbine geez?
@juprimpc8764 жыл бұрын
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@animamundii5 ай бұрын
Why no sound??
@lsmailzaam7 жыл бұрын
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@knightrider154510 жыл бұрын
hOW you know?
@knightrider154511 жыл бұрын
But distilled should be the perfect solution and if it get hot enough to vaporize then its gonna be hot because of the vcr but the fan on the hydro should keep if cool doe but distilled is pure plus no stick oil, NO CANCER, but what would happen if did it any way?
@actorzone8566 жыл бұрын
transmission has no cogs to clash, hydraulics has been around for decades in final drives, the days of the gearbox as we know it has gone all due to a bloke who invented the planetary concept when looking at the motion of the planets and the sun in 22BC
@timriley89296 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a Troy-Bilt Super Bronco XP 50 inch riding lawn mower. I saw the words Hydrostatic transmission on it and did not know what it meant. After some research and coming here, now I know, and I'm thinking why aren't they making automobiles like this...hmmm...???
@mekanizmalar11 жыл бұрын
I don't know what would happen. But I am sure that someone would do it if there were no problems. Who wants to pay money for the oil when the water is almost free? That is convincing enough for me.
@chaithanyakanneganti31104 жыл бұрын
Please provide voice we are unable to hear voice
@Flightstar10 жыл бұрын
Me know may thing.
@johnkapel21282 жыл бұрын
WHERE THE HELL IS THE SOUND??? IT'S WORTHLESS WITHOUT IT!
@asmrahath26605 жыл бұрын
Voice should be added
@nagyandras88578 жыл бұрын
on paper this looks fantastic, but since i own a big forestry forwarder that has hydrostatic drive my conclusions are: -expensive to run. oil changes cost a fortune. (170 liter) -does not transmit power like a mechanical drive , even if this is supposed to be super efficient, it ain't. its 130 hp, and drives like if it was 80 at best. -verry costly to repair. i spendt a fortune on getting it repaired (by rexroth hydraulics by them self. never make this mistake again ever. ) i could get a full mechanical tranny just for the price of the repair on the units. not worth it. - short lifespan. sure, they say it runs 30 years and 10,000 hours. sure. well, actually make that 2000 at the verry best. but usually even less. i gona swap it to a mechanical tranny. i have enough of oil spills, lack of power, and high running costs. and absolutely have enough of bosch-rexroth. ripp off comapny, i'm not going to ever talk to them ever, suggest them to anyone , or purchase anything that contains junk they make.
@robiboy28 жыл бұрын
Hello hidraulikaval foglalkozol?
@nagyandras88578 жыл бұрын
Robert Ienei erdőkkel foglalkozom. és van ilyen meghajtású gépem, de a hidrohajtás egy kalap szart se ér.ha javíttatni akarod bosch-rexroth hoz véletlen se kerüljön mert egy vagyont kérnek el, és továbbra se fog rendesen működni semmi. múlt év augusztus óta szarakodok velük, de semmit se ér.
@10babiscar8 жыл бұрын
would the new tranny be a torque converter auto or a proper non-synchro manual with a clutch?
@nagyandras88578 жыл бұрын
10babiscar proper non-synchro with a manual clutch. works a lot better instantly. no more oil spills, no need to rev the engine before it starts to roll, vastly decreased fuel consumption ever since. far better than this kindof junk.
@10babiscar8 жыл бұрын
You cant be the efficiency of a mechanical clutch and gears. I have a heavy vehicle licence but i imagine it would be a bit tricky driving a nonsynchro off road and at low speed, so good luck :)