hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahha you got it ;)

but if you could make some of this machines floating between 2 magnets in a container with no air but only Vacum then I belive infinite or really long motion could be achieved

no there will still be friction on the rotation axe

The magnets also lose power over time. There is nothing perpetual.

lmao

Haha

The "designers" don't make it too complicated. In 90% of cases they use the base. I doubt that a thick wooden plate is necessary to support 4 rods and 2 bearings🤣

JAJAJAJ

2nd one has a similar, visually persuasive system for seeming to whack each arm into continued/continual motion.

"Perpetual Motion Machines" do not generate energy. They are just very efficient at transferring very little force into a lot of motion. Any attempt to havest that energy or even rubbing your hand against it, will reveal that there is very little energy powering these devices to begin with, in fact, slightly less energy than it took to start it.

I don't understand what do you mean by putting quote marks?

+Mārtiņš Rozenbergs True Perpetual Motion Machines do not exist. Even the most well made ones will eventually slow down and stop due to friction and other factors if they do not have additional outside energy put in to sustain it. Think of a pocket watch, taking a few seconds to wind it and it will run a very complicated and precise machine running all day. However, the next day it needs to be wound again, or it'll eventually slow down and die. Same idea. A true perpetual motion machine would be wound once and would be able to sustain itself without being touched or having a batter or even taking in solar energy or being moved to self wind.

Prolly meant scare-quotes around 'perpetual'.

skeeter197140, Thanks for the laugh.

bro its representing how its SUPPOSED to work, its obvious that its fake

Tom Hoehler along with super upscaled models to drive a generator and power a house

Do you not consider gravity to be a source of energy?

Tom Hoehler Explain how satellites orbit earth.

Tom Hoehler I know how it works. I was making a point. Hilarious that you responded in such a foolish way.

Rasberry Jam Even though you know how, for the record for all comment readers, it's not possible to take energy from those because they only orbit in low-friction environments, If there was more than a tiny number of particles in space, they would crash very quickly.

the freeman said it, therefore it must be true! and where's your next game! it's been like 12 years man!

mrtannzr Don't tell GabeN you saw me here, that may delay the game another century.

Gordon Freeman your secret is safe with me!

+mrtannzr me too ;-)

hl4 confirmed

motor driven*

porras are you have the stupid He literally said it wasn’t actually perpetual he was just saying it would be a nice office toy

+William N Finally someone with some sense!! =)

+William N I still have trouble with the fact that the title includes the word "perpetual" in it. It is by no means perpetual, as the definition of such means NEVER ending, not almost. I know you already know this, but the title still irks me.

+William N I still have trouble with the fact that the title includes the word "perpetual" in it. It is by no means perpetual, as the definition of such means NEVER ending, not almost. I know you already know this, but the title still irks me.

lonewolf333 True. Motion machines isn't good click bait though.

ever notice how all of these are sitting on or connected to some kind of box? never is everything open to public scrutiny. thats because 100% of "perpetual motion" machines are bullshit

+eltonq See, I LIKE your comment: healthy, non-bantering, honest and yeah, would love all of these in my home somewhere =)

+eltonq *I WOULD LOVE A "PERPETUAL MOTION" DESK TOY!* Take my money! Please!

+eltonq How would you get power to the toy besides drilling a hole in the bottom of your desk and mounting the motors underneath it?

I'm fully aware these are all motor or pump driven :)

Roughrider Gatlinghammer The few that I'm interested in wouldn't have to be powered for my pleasing. They last minutes on their own after you first "play" with it hence the term "toy" for me. It would be something on my desk/tables to fiddle with.

lol

Omg your here

+Rulof Maker Che grande che sei! ahah

+Rulof Maker rudy, you couldn`t come up with these, so, you heckle. small mind.

+Rulof Maker rudy, you couldn`t come up with these, so, you heckle. small mind.

Yeah batteries are greatly hiden

Thank you much.

+glasstronic Darker Thoughts Silent Partner

Leonardo Victor Thank you again. :-)

Far The Days Come - Letter Box

+SlamifiedBuddafied i cant say all, but most of them are being runt by an egine of some sort, for example on part 1, the blue water one, it says that the weight of the water pushes it down, but water pressure varies only on height, so it must have some kind of pump, probably in that black brace that secures the pipe to the table

+Explore&ShootTV If you look closely, similar observations to the one you wrote are valid for almost all braces you see in the vid. The shots are meticulously taken so that the source of energy is hidden, in most cases (if not in all). There is even a screw that starts and stops moving at some point, which is probably associated with a torque given by a motor. But those are nice toys to fool people.

VeteranVandal and they must have given a load of hoursn to make, and they are well made

Explore&ShootTV I have to admit that they are well made - and will create a good conversation topic (but not energy), if not anything else.

+Explore&ShootTV It must. You can even see air bubbles shooting through the water at first. Plus the delay as the pump fills. That water should have gone through the tube instantly. No doubt camera angles hiding the giveaways.

Motors*

Гравитация это тоже источник энергии, но он всего 9,8G, следовательно нужно строить массивные огромные шестерёнки чтобы вырабатывало вольты. Велосипед не поедет, нужно больше G. Просмотрев видео, мне захотелось вдруг построить такую электростанцию!

Alexander Shatalov Твоя электростанция будет размером с планету ))) Хотел бы я узнать, где ты возьмёшь столько материала, чтобы её построить.

какую нахуй планету? 10-100 метров и норм крутиться будет)

Vasiliska Ilyushin Куда проще без цепей и шестерёнок: раскрутить обычный лом, иногда называемый железным карандашом. Один конец лома будет вращать другой конец лома и наоборот.

Ин Ни это отличная идея, только колесо ещё лучше

там скорее всего постоянные магниты. Но, в любом случае - это не вечный двигатель. Да, эти механизмы могут работать довольно долго (но не вечно, это точно :)) и мощности их хватит лишь на самих себя.

в последнем очень хорошо видно, что это моторчик, поскольку поворотная штанга каждый раз заходит немного дальше каждой из стоек при повороте, значит ее что-то туда тянет помимо самого груза

можно так долго не писать. любая система находит точку равновесия и по окончании силы импульса (толкания рукой) остановится. не зависимо от того какой сложный механизм, как расставлены магниты и т.д. ЛЮБАЯ система находит точку равновесия, что бы система продолжала работать нужно внешнее воздействие. так что все эти механизмы не вникая в их суть фейк по дефолту

Да, я посмотрю вы все тут институт высшей физики закончили, а нет вы наверное Бакалавры

Влад Андреев Тому, что создание вечного двигателя невозможно - учат в школе. Класс 7-й, если память мне не изменяет. Так что, ваша ирония тут неуместна.

***** What's your theory?

***** Alright.

DrLeroyGreen what is nothing ?

Gravity is a force

SUCKRPUNCHED If it keeps on moving, then he's using more than just gravity.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!

+ThePapino134 and can't be stopped...

No, it wouldnt, because its Fake. xD

No shit!

+ThePapino134 A prepetual machine would only accelerate if it had no forces to stop it! On earth you will have gravity and air recistance, but everywhere in the universe you have friction to overcome.... Than again making a machine that does neither accelerate and decellerate would be impossible. for example a "newton's cradle" seems to have figured out that stuff, but if you wait long enough they also stop...

+Caculated What is it being pulled by?

+Mod MINI The arm it was suspended by. The concept of the contraption is that as it unwinds its momentum throws it towards the next leg to wrap around, however such a device would probably never manage a full revolution. in this case, you can clearly see the arm is throwing the weight towards the legs as its moving far faster then the weight is. If it was working on its own, the weight would swing out ahead of the arm. Just like how the first device was clearly using a rotor to spin (The weights moving and jostling about give you a hint that energy is being added to the system by an outside force) since the orbital weights had no impact on its speed.

in the first round, it rolls around the innermost arms 3 times (u may see it), after some time it rolls around it just 2 times, therefore after some time it will just stop. good mechanism though

bro its representing how its SUPPOSED to work, its obvious that its fake

Meaning the video is fake? Or real?

Gabe adorno I don't know, I didn't watch it. I'm talking about the insane number of people trying to rationalize something which is _physically_ impossible.

It looks real and it makes sense tho

+Gabe adorno no it does no. it defies the first (and possibly the second) law/s of thermodynamics meaning that these people are trying to fool you by hiding a rotor somewhere which powers the device, or just being a really efficient device that is given energy at the start to create an illusion of a gain in energy

joebog1 laws get broken and if it's efficiency is good enough it could go for a very very long time. But it's useless because as soon as you try to hook a turbine up to it to generate energy, it would slow it down

Тима Леньфиёв и не надо

вечный двигатель, подразумевается что он будет работать вечно, а не в любой среде

Metalcommand странно подразумевать именно это потому как ничто не вечно

Тима Леньфиёв это смотря в каких условиях содержать этот двигатель. Я повторюсь, вечный двигатель это такой который работает без остановки

Понятие "вечность" это есть вечность. В данном случае мы имеем просто механизмы, которые питаются не от батареек, а от гравитации земли. Земля как и её гравитация не вечны. Если уж на то пошло, то Вселенная (теоретически) расширяется бесконечно. Соответственно механизм должен работать в открытом космосе и брать энергию от самого себя. Но так же он и должен отдавать взамен. Как получить в данном случае КПД 100% от механизма который питает сам себя? В простонароде это называется "манна небесная"

Or they know how to read the description

+shut your face! actually this description doesn't mention that

sorry yup, it was in part 1's

Oh but it only takes one person not to read the part one description.

This guy is replicating perpetual inventions made before. He knows they aren't perpetual he just makes them to make them

This is what unicorns would look like, if they actually existed.

Name music?

ghettohillbilly1 sure

+ghettohillbilly1 i agree

+ghettohillbilly1 but he's generating enough views(ads) to keep him going...

+Aaron “Tyme2wakeup” Melancon idiot

+veproject1 Perpetual motion os not possible. Sooner or later, all machines will run out of energy if they are not supplied.

@もっちたろう オッス、オラ悟空！

DJ L-Money™ it's truly amazing why batteries can do

Dragon Paragon Batteries weren't used in a lot of these.

DJ L-Money™ Yes, very intresting indeed.

The V8 we haven't found energy or matter that makes more energy than it consomes

Energy can't be created nor distroyed

The V8 he's just explained how everyone already knows it's bs. But he's just saying he still likes the gadgets. Stop being a douchebag, at the end of the day they're just fun to watch.

Что же тебе отчётливо видно?

когда верёвка с грузиком разматывается, в момент перехода с одного шеста на другой происходит смена направления движения грузика (просто внимательней приглядеться если). Хотя в силу сохранения импульса движения, грузик должен был продолжить свою траекторию, т.е если с одного шеста он разматывался по часовой стрелке, то НАМОТАТЬСЯ на второй шест он должен также по часовой, но сняться с него уже против. Тем более что палочка с грузом находится внутри круга. На видео же, если меня зрение не подводит, груз наматывается и разматывается всегда одинаково на всех палочках (против часовой и по часовой соответственно), именно это и смутило. Хотя, если я не прав, не судите строго, а объясните. Спасибо за внимание.

Юрий Русский Груз закручивается в правильную сторону. Но даже если наоборот, вы уверены что познали логику машины которую увидели первый раз в жизни. Так в чём же обман который автор пытается скрыть?

veproject1Обмана нет, есть затухание колебаний. Другие конструкции явно не рабочие.

veproject1в том, что без воздействия на основной шест (к которому всё это крепится) вращение его должно прекратиться после первого разматывания. Сам импульс и его гашение (посредством смены направления движения груза во время разматывания), происходит практически в одно время. Т.е всё это движется за счёт окончательного отделения грузика от шеста(начало) и наматывания на другой (точка окончания действия импульса движения), НО в середине пути происходит смена направления движения (в виде буквы S), которая противоестественна свободному перемещению тела, которое находится в состоянии движения по инерции, и тем более закреплено в одной точке. И не нужно принимать всё так близко к сердцу. "логику", как вы выразились, я понял. Повторю ещё раз, если я не прав, то буду только рад прочитать, а ещё лучше наглядно увидеть объяснение этому. Спасибо.

Почему?

ЮУДУТ!

Почему же не будут? Вопрос не в работоспособности, вопрос в КПД. Для вечного двигателя КПД >=1, Для практического использования КПД >1. Представленные модели могут иметь КПД = 0,9999999999 и крутиться очень долго, но этим они не нарушают законов физики.

Языком болтать - не мешки ворочать! Прежде, чем брякнуть ты сделай, проверь, а уж потом скажи!

+Andrew Muro in description

+veproject1 yeah, thanks, but still can't find this song anywhere. all i can find is really shitty electronic.

because this group works for YT only, I think

+Andrew Muro I guess you have found another one of this persons tracks because this is really shitty electronic music.

reminds me of 'no quarter' by led Zeppelin just way shittier and no vocals.

+Dave Olifent no, the thing about these videos is that they are hooked up to motors. All these machines are cyclical. All of the machines make more than one cycle in the video. If these machines were not hooked up to motors, it would be impossible for them to even complete a single cycle without an initial force.

+stuffandpoop Post a link to a video you made of your machine?

Robert Ray this response makes no sense.

+stuffandpoop Sure it does. Before you trash someone else's machine you know nothing about show us what you can do and what makes you the expert. Last I checked you didn't have a KZfaq channel with subscribers checking out anything you made

Robert Ray I don't have to build a machine to be an expert, or to know his machines are bullshit. I just have to have a basic understanding of the law of the conservation of energy. One cannot break the laws of physics, which is what these machines appear to do if they are not hooked up to a motor.

Too much energy is lost to friction for these to produce near what the energy is used to power them.

no it cannot

Ce genre de vidéo est toujours faite par de perpétuels arnaqueurs

Anto Mani Wikipedia is not the most reliable source of information....but it is true that these machines are cool, but the whole motion thing is probably fake

jody024 not just probably, 100% fake. Cool ideas but the perpetual motion machines are all fakes. This is one of the oldest concepts of physics. You can never generate more energy than you the one you have used to generate it in the first place.

elmareao Its ironically unscientific for you to try to make absolute statements like that.

dylarmage Well, it's not me. This is the actual physic paradigm. One thing is to try to challenge the paradigm and other thing to cheating people don't understand why this could not work.

Who is cheating anyone? Don't go adding in accusations if you aren't going to follow through. "Paradigm" is not a fixed principal that is without exception or without possibility of disproof. As soon as you start making absolutist statements like "X proves Y" then you have ceased science and moved into entirely new fields of rhetoric. There's a reason that every article that says "Study proves X" is categorically false. That's not how the scientific method works and its definitely not the way that science on a basic philosophical level works. Cases like this show up very commonly around discussions about things people like to think they understand through even the most basic of pop science concepts. Newtonian physics is 1) Not an absolute set of rules 2) Is not as simplistic as the standard you're attempting to establish here. Honestly, I'm not even concerned about the content of your post. Well, beyond your absolutism. That's the problem. You think science is about protecting what already is and not about discovery beyond what is known. I can tell because you jump to "these are fakes" (a nonsense statement to make about a physical object that is clearly real) instead of making a correct statement like "friction and or entropy will probably cause it to come to rest at some point in the future, even if it preserves momentum for a long time." If you're going to throw words around, know what they mean first.

+The Redstoner Look up F. G. Woodward's Wheel. That should partially explain it. I still don't fully understand it. This is one I do believe doesn't last very long due to the large amount of contact between the parts, unless properly lubricated.

If you watch closely...there is a shadow behind the right wheel....its being rotated by an engine....I think so

Luiz Milky Like I said, these don't usually run very long. So, yeah, there probably a motor behind this one just to show you how the parts move.

+The Redstoner Probably snuck a battery behind the wheel somewhere.

While possible, i'd like to understand how it works if not powered by external means... as i'd like to believe these are nearly perpetual motion machines, as I understand the mechanics behind every other machine here

"Gas engines and other engines that we use to power our world are extremely inefficient" haha your the idiot.

John Kens A gasoline engine is about 20% energy efficient some are a little more but that means that 80% of the energy they take in is lost, usually by heat. An engine such as these is maybe 80-90% energy efficient, for something to have perpetual motion it must be 100% energy efficient which due to entropy is impossible. That's called efficiency you should do research before calling me the idiot sir, maybe you should go back to high school and learn about it too idk i'm just an idiot.

John Kens that does not make gasoline more efficient at all, it makes it more practical in today's society. simply producing more energy than something else does not mean it is more efficient. efficiency is the relation ship oh energy leaving the system ( a ) and the total energy produced by the system( e ), which is a/e *100= % efficiency. so in the case of a motor vehicle (e) would be the total energy the engine produces in kj, let's say 1000kj. while (a) would be the energy at the crank in kj, let's say 350kj. so (350/1000)*100=35% in this example the engine has a energy efficiency of ,35%. which means 65% of the energy is lost in heat, friction, things like that.

and you are trying to say that....

Lacrima Gasoline produces huge amount of excess energy, so it can move a car. Even if it was true those devices would work, there would be energy just to propel it itself, not even propel anything else. Those devices would need to produce many hp more energy to be possible use it as propellant. But it would mean when running free it would keep to speed up to the high revolutions until it destroys itself. But nothing like this happens, so this can't be even thought about being better than gasoline...

Actually the energy source is under that mysteriously opaque base unit.

Gravity isn't a source of energy, but I can see why you thought it

gravity is a force, but not a source of energy. Any energy gained by dropping something will be lost again when it is lifted, along with interest from friction. Even if you could make a perfectly frictionless wheel that ran forever, it would be useless as an energy source, since the minute you tried to extract any energy, it would stop. super useful for trains and stuff tho, so still patent it if you invent one ;)

so add more weight... since it looses force , to gain add more weight and can power a batt or light. ???

It's a force not a source