Nice thanks for this. I am owner of Elantra N (i think you guys call it i30n sedan over there) here in North America and I wish there were more contents on technical aspects of our N cars. Like videos of factory tours, or just explanation like how you did (just like how Honda civic type R has so much more contents), which would make these cars even more special to us owners.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Hi yes the Elantra N is the same as the Sedan N. Thanks for the comment, and I made this video because a) there actually IS a lot of good tech to talk about, and b) I knew enthuasist owners would appreciate it, and even those who don't own Hyundais but are interested in how cars work. No point doing a tech video on a Camry for example, those owners don't care how many or which wheels are driven. Hyundai doesn't have the performance heritage of Honda, but it'll catch up! And, please share!
@MrSaesh12 жыл бұрын
Jeah i totally know what you mean. Or maybe Problems with technical know hows If you have questions to your local Hyundai Dealer. I asked for my i20N which oil i have to buy. They didnt had an answer, must figure it Out on myself. Would be great to have more Support. :)
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
It's hard for dealers to adjust to enthusiast buyers who know a lot about their cars, and care for them! I don't know how Hyundai is going in this regard though, interested to hear.
@petrilaakso79272 жыл бұрын
best N tech content youtube has to offer 👍🏼
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, please share!
@chrisvalleqatsi2 жыл бұрын
Truly valuable and informative conversation - I just got a KN here in the US, and I think I might be driving the best car of my life so far. I feel like I'm ready for WRC3!
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Thank you would much appreciate a share 😁👍
@CaliforniaKonaN2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very informative!
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Please share!
@SteveBriggs2 жыл бұрын
Robert, thank you, this answers what is special about the Kona N much more in depth than I could have. My teen son is learning how to drive on this car, good that he knows what he is driving.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, please share!
@DTEL77 Жыл бұрын
Great piece, much appreciated. Loving my Elantra N as a daily driver, and amazed at what it can do on the track!
@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын
Thanks please share! And check this out... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZl5faaYq8eqe4U.html
@camwilliams6886 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the technical info! You would think more would be available on the R&D of these cars but have been having a hard time finding anything so thank you again
@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Would appreciate a share of this video :-)
@BenMitro2 жыл бұрын
"N" for nuts! Thanks Robert, I don't think I could have ever gotten the low down on the Kona N at that level of detail - straight from the horses mouth (sorry Geoff!). Very interesting about adding more spot welding to stiffen the chassis (along with extra bracing). I wonder if you can talk about how that works at some point Robert? Intuitively I can see that added spot welds increases rigidity, but not sure what the mechanism is.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Don't know about Hyundai specifically, but generally more welding along a join = stiffer chassis. I think it'd be something called seam welding which is adding extra welds in strategic places on the chassis, usually around the stress points such as suspension mounts. The reason this isn't done normally is because of cost/time. When you produce volumes in the car world which are many tens if not hundreds of thousands, then every cent you save adds up. This is why carmakers skimp on things to save say $0.10 which means a saving of $50k across a 0.5m production run. The aftermarket tends not to do this as much as their volumes are much lower, and they need a differentiator. But then we're into OEM vs aftermarket..a new discussion! Anyway stiffening the chassis is a great idea, and there are also struts in N cars to help. Actual functional struts, not shiny bits of hardparking metal. Geoff is a true car racer (this is important) as well as a tech guy so I'm sure he's been called lots of things worse than a horse :-)
@DelPellezin Жыл бұрын
It's awesome to hear this from the tech, great review. I wish he covered how the exhaust note works between settings on the i30N
@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын
Thanks, please share! Ran out of time to do the exhaust sorry.
@ronbleazard7 ай бұрын
Love my Kona N car! ❤️👍👌👏😇
@HarmanMotorWorks2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Gents! 💯
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!! Please share so the effort we put in is worthwhile!
@jagerking70202 жыл бұрын
Great video. I didn't realize the kona had the brake ducts setup like this. I live in the mountains and constantly warping rotors so anything helps.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! BTW the 'warping' rotos is a myth. Brakepads cannot produce anything like enough heat to warp cast iron. What actually happens is that the hot pads leave an tiny, invisible residue on the rotor, which then manifests as a vibration when braking. So, when you've finished a track session, never use the parkbrake and it's not a bad idea to minimise brake use when you're back in the pits so the pads don't press against the rotors when hot. N cars have a Creep Function which can be used for that, not sure if that was the intent, but it's certainly a great idea! Autos can be left in park, manuals in neutral then in 1st gear with engine off. If you do 'warp' your rotors you'll need to remove then and machine them to get the residue off.
@Mmm666892 жыл бұрын
Great content as always. Thanks for making this one. Cheers
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@KevMk32 жыл бұрын
Re brake pads NexD in Germany the owner of the company did the development for the N cars especially i30n
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Good to know thanks!
@georgevigil70012 жыл бұрын
Anyone else wish they would've just let the tech guy dive into the details he was sharing? I felt like the other guy would cut him off just when he was getting to the good stuff. I get he wanted to keep things simplified, but that nitty gritty breakdown was GOLD! Would've been great to do a Q&A and just let the tech go at it.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Actually it's not so much simplifed as speed. The video is already quite long, and there's a choice between going into a lot of depth on 2-3 subjects, or covering them all at a higher level. That is why I kept quickly summarising and moving on, because I had clock going to see the time. It would be possible to do 2 hours on brakes alone!
@georgevigil70012 жыл бұрын
@@L2SFBC makes sense! I was just really enjoying the deets! Thanks for the video!!
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments George, appreciated, and please share the video :-)
@jcgriffin45722 жыл бұрын
Good information
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, please share :-)
@pupete012 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is a fantastic work! Kudos Hyundai! More happy than ever of having my Kona N.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Please share :-)
@arthurmroyce Жыл бұрын
How soon the Veloster N is gone and forgotten. 2020 R&T PCOTY and you could not cancel it quick enough.
@L2SFBC Жыл бұрын
I didn't cancel it!
@carloscervantes8362 жыл бұрын
I love the design for the most part but it's still an SUV/CUV, why skimp on rear a/c vents, power seats both sides, memory seats/wheel/mirrors, wireless carplay, full HD surround cameras, power folding mirrors that also turn down when in reverse, smart cruz control, puddle lights, projector based LED headlights, etc?
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Because the $ went into performance engineering not luxury.
@carloscervantes8362 жыл бұрын
@@L2SFBC They are using a car model that is already out so they save on tooling and such, not even offering upgrade options seems short sighted. The lower tier N line has SCC and this doesn't best I can tell, why gimp that? Wireless Carplay is something also offered but gone here. Power folding mirrors not in US, etc. I own this car BTW.
@carloscervantes8362 жыл бұрын
@@L2SFBC I should also point out I'm currently trying to figure out why FCA seems like it would do little to nothing on the N and I believe it might be because its missing the radar which is also used for SCC. If this is true that they removed radar and are relying on the camera only for FCA, that is one hell of a mistake. I hope I'm wrong.
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason could be leaving something in reserve for an easy facelift after 1-3 years.
@carloscervantes8362 жыл бұрын
@@L2SFBC it pains me to say you are probably right. I thought maybe supply issues but I wish I knew the true answer. It hurts as I’m really liking the car overall.
@mikeredline272 жыл бұрын
So why hasn't one of there "N" cars been able to go faster than the hyundai genesis coupe 3.8
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@mikeredline272 жыл бұрын
The N line so far can't beat the Hyundai Genesis coupe 3.8
@darrellcoutinho805 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeredline27around a track?
@erikferrante85352 жыл бұрын
They didn't combat shit lol torque steers just the same as my mom's super charged Pontiac grand prix lol
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to drive your mother's Pontiac, and why you think the N car torque steer. It's not as pure as a rear-drive car, but it's definitely well sorted - you can see in the video an example of actual torque steer on a 'sports' car vs the i30 N.
@JohnLee-db9zt2 жыл бұрын
Obvious you never drove any N cars. I owned a Pontiac Grand Prix. Don’t be an idiot.
@ronforeman25562 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLee-db9zt Obviously you haven't watched any of Mr. Pepper's other videos, wherein he drives all of the various N cars on the track, offers ample POV footage, and discusses the attributes and compromises of each. He is certainly no idiot. And, back in the day, my family car was a '64 Grand Prix with a 389 cid Trophy V-8 engine, Tri-Power carburetors and 3-speed Turbo Hydramatic transmission, so there's that.
@JohnLee-db9zt2 жыл бұрын
@@ronforeman2556 numb nut, I was talking to the OP. And I don’t care what your daddy says. I’ve trendy all N cars and they have mild torque steer which is useful in track driving.
@darrellcoutinho805 Жыл бұрын
OK mate 👍🏽👌🏽
@kcw93132 жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced heeun-deh not hai-un-dye buddy
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
sohry Ben
@Michael-qo6jt2 жыл бұрын
In Australia we say Hai-un-dye. Same thing with the word Adidas pronounced overseas
@L2SFBC2 жыл бұрын
Soo-bar-ru or Suba-roo? Niss-an or Neee-san?
@CurtissB2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-qo6jt we also say hyun day sooo it probably depends on the person and if they get it right
@einfelder82622 жыл бұрын
Marzda or Mazda. We say it like it's spelled, here in Australia. We have aluminium, solder not aloominum or sarder. And we say thank you not theeenk yeew.