I.33 Sword and Buckler - Showcasing HEMA

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7 жыл бұрын

Special guest Kyle Griswold (two time sword & buckler gold medalist) from the Mordhau Chapter of the Phoenix Society of Historical Swordsmanship give us a basic introduction of the l.33 Sword and Buckler system, the earliest sword fighting manual that we know of.
Severe Tire Damage, Broken Reality, & Cephalopod Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno 7 жыл бұрын

I love how they all look so happy in the manuscripts

@brandorgraccus6653 5 жыл бұрын

I saw a video about a HEMA teacher saying that smiling "like a hero" is a part of the thing I kindof believe it by now

@handmade3681 4 жыл бұрын

Zythis MacMillan a smile is unavoidable when the void calls

@setiawansetiawan5103 3 жыл бұрын

they had a sword and a buckler, why wouldn't they be happy

@magellantilltheend8852 3 жыл бұрын

Nice pfp bro 😂

@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno 3 жыл бұрын

@@magellantilltheend8852 Nice. Same to you lol.

@ShagShaggio 7 жыл бұрын

I really liked this video. Showing the manual illustrations alongside the physical demonstrations is a nice touch and really helps visualize them.

@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934 4 жыл бұрын

The sword and buckler best fits a rogue because the amount of dirty tricks you can do with them is limitless from sword grab up to beard grab

@pj_mckenna 7 жыл бұрын

That was a perfect synopsis of I.33. Tremendous.

@boyluizeduardo 7 жыл бұрын

This is, potentially, the best HEMA channel on KZfaq.

@michayahjwalker3349 6 жыл бұрын

Luiz Eduardo rightfully so

@tyjohnston8573 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I just finished my first read of I.33 and it was great to see it live.

@Nexis1701 5 жыл бұрын

i just love how the guys in the manuals always look totally stoned :D

@deltazenturo1701 3 жыл бұрын

I now have a totally different way of looking at manuals

@zethron1173 3 жыл бұрын

Best beginner guide delivery on Sword and Buckler I've seen.

@jamesbgood25 7 жыл бұрын

Great information, I am getting ready to start training HEMA for the first time and this really presents it in a way that I can understand. I can't wait for my equipment to come in so I can work through this.

@sukhanovdmitry1974 6 ай бұрын

Отличное видео! Спасибо за работу!

@bernardputersznit64 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this -- very lucid!

@MasterGreybeard 7 жыл бұрын

Great Video, keeping it short and simple, good work !!!

@bernardputersznit64 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you gentlemen - very informative

@Pamjamelia 7 жыл бұрын

I think I can say I found this very helpful. I've taken two classes in I.33 so far, with the first class I took being my first ever HEMA training session. I haven't been able to attend lessons in my club because of education-related, er, setbacks. Thanks for uploading this! And funny. I was considering getting a Cold Steel buckler because I don't have a buckler of my own so I think Friday's video should also be informative as well as entertaining.

@Pamjamelia 7 жыл бұрын

I live in Ireland and I found out that the Coldsteel Bucklers are, for whatever reason, more pricey than some steel bucklers you'd get from the HEMA Shop. But wow, that looks really nice... Can't afford one right now but thanks for letting me know anyway.

@MrCantStopTheRobot 7 жыл бұрын

Great pacing, easy presentation.

@MrVelyx 4 ай бұрын

I am a total beginner try teaching myself. This video helped very much, thank you

@miguelarocazarco5744 2 жыл бұрын

Really nice tutorial! Thankss

@wiskadjak 7 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video. I.33 looks like a medieval form of destreza.

@justsomeguy3931 4 жыл бұрын

Good guide, thanks

@BlazingSteel 3 жыл бұрын

I can see why Ward 7 is "Where all the art flows." So many basic cuts from the other 6 wards can easily transition into Ward 7, making it incredibly versatile for a parried or missed strike.

@OzzyCrescat 6 жыл бұрын

I'm looking more and more about I.33 combat recently, having no other ressources than internet and the original sources. No clubs teach buckler in my area. It's fascinating to see how every club has it's own interpretation and style. What do you think of Roland Warzecha's more bind-oriented style?

@Cleanpea 3 жыл бұрын

Late comment here, hehe! I figured R.W.'s style is more bind-focused because he spars with sharp swords: Because only sharp steel bites the way that we can feel the pressure and communication of fencing. It requires tremendous control and trust in his sparring partners tho, it is so easy to forget the lethal heritage of sport-fencing!

@reyg7028 6 жыл бұрын

fascinating !

@VTSifuSteve 6 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this! I teach PCE Escrima and see so much in common. Did a bit of Italian rapier but my 62 year old knees won't take the deep lunges ....now these stances I could actually do. Since I live in the middle of Phoenix and know Richard Marsden and some of the great guys at the Phoenix Society of Historical Swordsmanship ....I think it's time to get off my butt and take this up. Seriously!

@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын

VTSifuSteve The Phoenix group is absolutely fantastic, you will not regret your choice :) Welcome aboard

@user-ur6yj6de4f 10 ай бұрын

Excellence !

@aurourus6894 7 жыл бұрын

Aw, hell yea!

@razorgarcia298 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Why can't we have online classes like this in order to learn ? Regular classes from the bottom up .

@jimmynicolas4602 4 жыл бұрын

Super ! 😁

@beowulf204 6 жыл бұрын

Hello, great video! I have a question regarding the book at the end. Is that a book with full plates and an English translation? If so, what is the name of the book? I’ve been looking for a manuscript to begin studying the I33 but am having a hard time finding one.

@kenkrossrus568 4 жыл бұрын

Респект Братва!

@GregTom2 7 жыл бұрын

I find it quite surprising that the buckler doesn't seem to be used as a primary defensive weapon, but rather the sword is both the primary attacking weapon and the primary defensive weapon, while the buckler is a tool to control your foe's weapons after the bind/initial impact.

@MyVanir 6 жыл бұрын

In that way it is a defensive weapon, just not a blocking one - by controlling the weapon of the opponent, you prevent attacks that you would have to block.

@78AdSa 6 жыл бұрын

the thumb position is wrong! leads to the breaking of the finger

@a.d.9415 7 жыл бұрын

Blood & Iron, where do you get your arming sword feders from? Alternatively, do you recommend any particular models?

@HEMASimian 7 жыл бұрын

Alexander Martin Hi there. We use the single handed arming swords from SGT blades. I forget which one Kyle had, I'll get back to you on that.

@FoardenotFord 6 жыл бұрын

Great video - I've been wanting to practice I.33 for a while now. Where did you get those single handed steel feders?

@a.d.9415 6 жыл бұрын

StarCat Kyle's sword appears to be Chlebowski Einhander (one hander), which should be available either direct from his website. And Sean's is from SGT Blades I believe, which is best accessible through their Facebook page if I understand correctly.

@FoardenotFord 6 жыл бұрын

Alexander Martin Thank you!

@krymz1 4 жыл бұрын

I keep seeing the flute player from the Vladimir Cauchemar - Aulos video :D Twin brother?

@curiousoli 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think Sword and Buckler is a good style for someone transitioning to HEMA from boxing ?

@DougsDiggers 7 жыл бұрын

When I was studying computer science, we once used statistics to mathematically prove that there is a direct correlation between the amount of times people masturbate daily and the price for bananas.

@wileygarren5980 7 жыл бұрын

ᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I.33

@SpikeyNorman47 7 жыл бұрын

This may be a dumb question but, are there any manuals dealing with just arming sword vs arming sword? Was that a common thing in the middle ages, or did they almost always have a buckler?

@herorage2012 7 жыл бұрын

SpikeyNorman47 When it came to arming swords, you'd almost always have some form of passive/active defense implement in your offhand. In a day-to-day scenario, you'd be carrying the buckler on your hip together with the sword. On the battlefield, a proper shield would take its place. As for the arming sword alone, there is a section in Fiore's treatise that talks about swords in one hand. I'm not sure how representative it is, but there's that.

@viktorkachovski5252 7 жыл бұрын

Just look at messer manuals, it is mostly the same with small alterations. Also it was such a common knowledge that no one actually thought of writing one. Most of the sidesword manuals also have good ideas what to do, but don't take everything for granted there as it is a lot lighter. Basic rule is if it could be done with an arming sword as well, then it is a valid tactic.

@seanfranklin1591 7 жыл бұрын

I know of no exclusively arming sword v. arming sword manuals*. We have a few plays appearing in Fiore, of which most are grappling. Other than that what we have documented is either Medieval Sword & Buckler, Messer, or later period single handed swords (Sidesword, Saber, etc...) *The fun thing about statements like this is there is always some obscure source that has a play or two that barely anyone has ever heard of, or there are new documents always being discovered. So making an absolute statement is asking for trouble.

@SpikeyNorman47 7 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, why not carry a buckler cause it's so easy to carry? Thank you for the replies! Just, if messer was used and is effective by itself, wouldn't arming sword as well? Or messer and buckler?

@seanfranklin1591 7 жыл бұрын

They weren't big on writing stuff like this down back then, and even if it was written down it had to survive hundreds of years for us to be able to read it. So just because we don't have documentation of how they did it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Additionally the heyday of the arming sword was just before we start seeing manuals being recorded, which doesn't help either.

@HebaruSan 7 жыл бұрын

At 5:05, why can't Sean protect his head with his buckler? Maybe a better way of asking is, what happens if he tries to?

@viktorkachovski5252 7 жыл бұрын

He will defend, but won't hit as well because of oberlaufen. You can use the low strike as a bait for a cut or thrust, defend with the buckler and aim for the hand with a false edge cut.

@username-kr2fz 7 жыл бұрын

that is a possible defence, but he then covers his line of sight and won't see the opponent stabbing him in the belly, the opening he's just made by moving the buckler. :)

@viktorkachovski5252 7 жыл бұрын

Which you can expect and cover with your sword in an overbind :) I think Paulus Kal had a play like this, if the buckler is up, try to stab him in the belly.

@sherrattpemberton6089 6 жыл бұрын

In general; the sword moves quicker then the buckler. If he tries to cover with the buckler the sword just finds another target and he ends up chasing the sword with his buckler. The attacker can take his time and sooner or later he wont be able to catch up

@ScottGrow117 6 жыл бұрын

I always live in the wrong place! I wanna learn fighting with swords SOO friggin bad!

@kalvinchester4068 5 жыл бұрын

There may be a local hema class. For me, I found a class I didnt even know about until I searched Facebook.

@TheEpicPancake 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, at least you don't live in South Dakota. There's one HEMA location in the entire state, and it's a good 3+ hour drive from where I live. Ah well, guess you have to make do with what you can manage.

@ScottGrow117 3 жыл бұрын

TheEpicPancake I love in Montana, actually, but we actually have at least two HEMA clubs, in Billings and in Bozeman. Luckily I live in Billings. Have you been able to practice at all? Or considered moving?

@TheEpicPancake 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottGrow117 Nah, right now it's just an online fascination partly due to it, and as much as I would like to obtain a sword and see how far I could get solo, I worry it would be pointless. I can't really move seeing as I'm 16.

@ScottGrow117 3 жыл бұрын

TheEpicPancake dang, sorry to hear that, but on the bright side, two years isn’t all that long and if you do decide to leave town, there certainly are options relatively close to home.

@farkasmactavish Жыл бұрын

but why all the dudes in the manual gotta look like Little Orphan Annie about to sing The Sun will Come Up Tomorrow?

@comic-fied8284 6 жыл бұрын

7:17

@ARR0WMANC3R 7 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's l.33

@theweirdlookingcat8062 6 жыл бұрын

It's definitely 1.33

@allopez8563 3 жыл бұрын

Its Roman numbers I is number 1.

@madguy881 6 жыл бұрын

Why medieval people named it I.33? Was there I.32? or I.34?

@robertgibson6687 6 жыл бұрын

madguy881 Modern historians gave it that catalogue index. If I'm not mistaken, the original manuscript has no name.

@bobbob9427 7 жыл бұрын

In real world with sharp swords you cannot slide one sword against another sword ( like in some your attacks eg. 8:17min.), on normal sharp swords from medieval time after hit ( even from nowadays iron if is not very hard) you had damages on edges/ kerbs, on both swords and they got kerbed and jammed, ( even many kerbs on one sword after longer fight, iron in that time was not tough like nowadays). then maybe these fencing manuals were wrong or authors were fighitng with blunt edges as well and they didn't think about sharp swords? I fought once against my friend, both with sharp not forged swords (quite good simulation of medieval steel/ iron) and our swords were like saws after few minutes and they jammed many times, it was very hard to slide one edge against another without wrist movement to release edge, but quite often we lost our pressure force (? )/balance advantage after that wrist movement. sorry for grammar/mistakes please check this video and Roland warzecha's channel he was talking about that in another video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpx2qK6p0cqZpKM.html

@ArukenM 6 жыл бұрын

From my personal tests, you can unbind them with a twist of the wrist or a change in the angle of the sword. Try it out and let me know if it works or not for you.

@samarkand1585 7 жыл бұрын

The background music is, uh, distracting.

@BloodandIronHEMA 7 жыл бұрын

TOME Julien What's your sound setup?

@samarkand1585 7 жыл бұрын

Blood and Iron HEMA oh i don't think it's a matter of sound setup, it's just different from the usual music backgrounds used on this channel and that's probably what made me pay too much attention to it. Anyway I didn't mean it as a criticism.

@BloodandIronHEMA 7 жыл бұрын

TOME Julien But criticism is what we want :) Without it we can't improve our product. So it's just the style you don't like?

@samarkand1585 7 жыл бұрын

Blood and Iron HEMA nah, it was just unusual that's all

@Anttimation 7 жыл бұрын

I second that. Not horribly distracting but a little odd. Would actually prefer no music at all.

7 жыл бұрын

It doesn't convince me. We know so little about the fighting style of I.33, everything presented here is highly speculative.

@ScottGrow117 6 жыл бұрын

Bastian Koppenhöfer except for people who apply it in sparring. We don't exactly live in a world where people can just kill each other with swords so we will probably never know it's true practical application, but sparring is the next best thing. And if someone sees utility in it, especially if that someone is skilled, I wouldn't call it speculative.

@sherrattpemberton6089 6 жыл бұрын

Saw with most of the wards that they were almost there but not quite (in other words they were being lazy.) Even though I've had only a little experience with i.33 I didn't like this showcase