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Here are my quick thoughts on the Savoie / McLeod trade that took place on Friday. If you guys enjoy this type of NHL content be sure to subscribe to the channel if you are new!
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@jonahsemenchuk184 14 күн бұрын

I'm an oilers fan and I'm a big mcleod fan, but I think Jeff Jackson made a great trade. It's smart because when McDavid and draisaitl's contracts are up, they have a talented young guy to play with. With Henrique being the 3rd line center there isn't much room for Ryan McLeod outside of the 4th line, so he won't improve much. Best of luck to him in Buffalo.

@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm 14 күн бұрын

Plus, Derek Ryan is cheaper and isn't much of a drop off as your #4 center.

@saltthewoundhxc 14 күн бұрын

I feel this trade has the potential to be a win win. Buffalo losses a highly talented prospect for help now. But Savoie was jumped by multiple prospects in the sabres pipeline that doesn't include his injury concerns as well. The sabres shore up a position of need with a young cost effective player as well. I also don't think they need McLeod to contribute a ton offensively either.

@Enraged. 14 күн бұрын

I was camping when this happened and came back and saw it. I genuinely cannot understand how buffalo thought this was a good trade.

@cozscav 14 күн бұрын

Such an overreaction. Savoie doesn’t even have a spot on the Sabres roster this season, and next season. McLeod is a serviceable 3C

@camerona6644 14 күн бұрын

@@cozscavas a Sabres fan it’s an under reaction lol. We fucked up big time, even if he wasn’t gonna crack the line up this season (he DEFINITELY would be making the team next season), his trade value was through the roof

@chrisdee7511 14 күн бұрын

@@camerona6644 Im also a Sabres fan and am tired of "potential." We need to get into the playoffs this year. Not 2 more years from now. It was a sacrifice, but we need to be in the playoffs this year. GMKA is trading like his job depends on it. because it does.

@markhumphrey855 14 күн бұрын

@@camerona6644Buffalo isn’t going to wait 2 years and needs seasoned players for a push to playoffs . McLeod brings speed and is a center. Exactly what they need . They are deep with prospects, no worries here.

@Mralanyrx 14 күн бұрын

@@camerona6644his trade value was low. Teams wanted all of the other Sabres big name prospects over him

@biffstrong1079 14 күн бұрын

This was salary that the Oilers needed to get rid of. This is a checking center. They are easier to find than talented scorers. Savoie was one of many talented prospects on a Buffalo team that struggled to score. So weird.

@Mralanyrx 14 күн бұрын

I really like this trade for the Sabres. McLeod is an awesome 3C and Savoie was probably our 4th prospect at this point. All of the scouts/models point to his stock only dropping since draft day

@ABobeck94 14 күн бұрын

While this is an overpayment by the Sabres, I can understand why they made this trade. 1. They got a player who they can insert into the lineup right now and fills in a need of a 3rd line center in McLeod who is an upgrade over Krebs. 2. While Savoie was drafted in the top 10 of the ‘22 Draft, he basically got jumped by other prospects in the system since his draft year by guys like Benson, Levi, and even Kulich. Also when looking at the Sabres roster overall, where do you even put him in the lineup?

@michaelkerber3337 14 күн бұрын

Sabres could have had him in the AHL, or trade him for a top 4 dman/ top 6 winger, mcleod is basically a 4th line center, he can't even drive play and like 80% of his points came cause he played as a winger next to draisaitl

@BeserkerEarl 14 күн бұрын

sabres have 20m in cap space. if you want a 3c, go buy one at the deadline dont trade for it

@ABobeck94 14 күн бұрын

@@BeserkerEarl They currently have $13 Million in cap space. But more importantly, they can’t get one via free agency as players are not interested in joining a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in 13 years.

@ABobeck94 14 күн бұрын

@@michaelkerber3337 He would’ve been in the AHL this upcoming season no matter what. But based on what I’ve seen regarding this matter, Savoie wasn’t even a prospect other GMs had interest in when it came to trade discussions with the Sabres.

@michaelkerber3337 14 күн бұрын

@@ABobeck94 says who? i haven't heard that from any insiders and Sabres were the ones that came to Oilers with that offer they didn't even try to lowball Oilers to get mcleod they just offered the overpay right away.

@Kurdem03 14 күн бұрын

Jeff Jackson fleeced this trade and is one of the biggest winners in free agency. How this guy does not want to be the GM just shakes my head

@atvaddict1159 14 күн бұрын

Probably doesn't want the pressure that Ken Holland had

@brucemckinlay9739 13 күн бұрын

When the first Friedman tweet was posted, "McLeod traded to Buffalo" I just hoped it was for a second round pick, but expected a third. A minute or so later when he tweeted out Savoie was the return I verbally yelled "Holy Shit!". This may very well blow up in the Sabres faces. What a trade!

@futureuse7105 14 күн бұрын

Buffalo needed a third line center now, we have plenty of prospect on or near savoies level

@markhumphrey855 14 күн бұрын

Looks like a good deal for Buffalo, Matt Savoie is good but he is small and the depth Buffalo has . Savoie hasn’t proven he has NHL quality due to his small size . Buffalo needed a speedy penalty killer . I don’t think Buffalo is going to worry much about this trade.

@robgranberg7854 13 күн бұрын

This is a great trade for the oil. Frees up a spot as they've gotten deeper with the signings. He was super soft in the playoffs and wasn't getting much ice. Saves cash too.

@mahockey3 14 күн бұрын

Buffalo wants to push to make the playoffs this year, and having another top 9 contributor NOW instead of a year or so later is something they need for that. They have enough good prospects that they don't mind getting rid of a future second-liner. Simple as that.

@chrischris3099 14 күн бұрын

Still horrible asset management. I would want at least an extra 2nd rounder on top of getting McLeod, but I wouldn't have given up on savoie to begin with.

@mahockey3 14 күн бұрын

@@chrischris3099 I don't think anyone would have given that then. A few days after the trade, I saw it mentioned that Savoie wasn't valued very highly by other GMs. Don't remember where I saw it though, it might have been a link to an SN article posted on reddit?

@chrischris3099 14 күн бұрын

@mahockey3 I don't think very highly of McLeod. At best he's a solid 3rd line centre. Savoie has potential to be a top 6 winger and it's not like he had a down year in the juniors. Helped his team to the memorial cup.

@markhumphrey855 14 күн бұрын

@@chrischris3099, 3rd line center is what we needed, with speed and penalty killing capabilities. We have a good top 6 as well as some good talent in the pipeline.

@thirstresponder4569 14 күн бұрын

Some people like a new paint job and shiny rims. I prefer a solid engine. Plus, we already have rims.

@ryleyw3684 14 күн бұрын

I liked McLeod, I'm kinda sad to see him go honestly

@bluesfan314 14 күн бұрын

What were your thoughts on drew winning the mitb and failing his cash in in the same night?

@MNATrevor 14 күн бұрын

Trade was necessary for the Oilers. McLeod doesn’t make the top 12 this year, he got passed on the depth chart by Holloway.Needed cap space and to be honest he kind of fell off after his family issues back in January. Only 3 G, 8 assists post Jan 24. He looked ok in the postseason not great. 4 G, 0 assists and a minus 7. Also in the playoffs he got moved to the 3rd pairing PK team behind Ryan,Brown,Janmark,Henrique and RNH. The potential and Cap Space makes this an instant win for Edmonton and by a wide margin.

@krt88nc 14 күн бұрын

If you’re still trying to get then you need to study more. Savoie’s was expendable Sabres have a TON of prospects and many first rounders Sabres needed a 3rd line centermen and they wanted bottom 6 players that can skate It’s really simple. You feel it was massive overpayment, the Sabres felt it the was the price of getting a guy they wanted. How many 5-10 guys play 3rd line centermen? With Cozens and Thompson at center, Quinn, Peterka, Tuch and Benson at wings where did Savoie fit into the Sabres roster? Does the guy play like he’s a 3rd or 4th line guy? It’s really simple

@254zero 14 күн бұрын

Desperation mover by Kevyn Adams after a failed free agency in my opinion. Bought out skinner and failed to replace him. This trade was made to address the need of a 3rd line center and oilers gm capitalized on Adams desperation

@generalimlerith8356 14 күн бұрын

Savoie is unproven if savoie does nothing then this will age well let’s see how it goes

@ryanbudney3356 12 күн бұрын

IMO I think you're a little off on both sides. Savoie may likely play little for the Oilers. His role on the Oilers is he's money in the bank. Excellent trade-bait during the season, and a low cap hit. McLeod is an established NHL player that's responsible and with size -- exactly what Buffalo needs. If Savoie can find a fit in the Oilers lineup, that would be fantastic. But I don't think the Oilers are counting on that.

@aidanplayz1339 13 күн бұрын

Nah Ty tulio youngstars legend huge pickup 😂😂

@toxzikIssue 14 күн бұрын

It's a matter of cash back for others

@mikeS-ow7lc 14 күн бұрын

I live in Rochester savoie is not good they have prospects that passed him they don’t need the same type of player over and over maybe that’s buffalos fault for drafting the same types of player but if you can’t understand this trade you haven’t seen savoie play it’s a smart trade for both parties the kid is not that good maybe he can develop better with the oilers but I doubt it

@vernonhowell4070 14 күн бұрын

The Sabres lost a guy who couldn’t win a puck battle in a PWHL game and gained a guy that just made it to the Stanley Cup finals. He has the most playoff experience on the Sabres roster besides Zucker. Savoie was playing in the WHL as a 20 year old he was a non full grown adult playing with kids.

@HALFDEADHERMAN 14 күн бұрын

Matt Savoie couldn't stay healthy thru an NHL Development camp. How is he going to do when he's playing on the third line in the NHL against men who play a physical, hard hitting game!? The NHL is a league where size is often the trump card and unless Savoie adds some size to his frame, then he's going to find his transition to the NHL isn't what fans thought it would be. I'll take Ryan McLeod's 219 games played in the NHL over Matt Savoie's three minute and fifty-five second cup of coffee, any day of the week. Lindy Ruff will coach McLeod up and he just might make him utilize his frame and become a net front presence. Those who say McLeod doesn't play in the dirty areas, he's a perimeter player, go ahead and laugh about it... Lindy Ruff worked wonders on Vanek's net front game and I'm betting that he does the same with McLeod.

@aaronvogt335 14 күн бұрын

Savoie is not NHL proven and has injury issues plus he is small.

@davehorseman 14 күн бұрын

Package this small guy with nurse and trade for an actual elite defenseman

@WinterWoolies 14 күн бұрын

Would you sell low on mutual funds.... fuq no so why would you sell low on nurse and savoie. Make less than zero sense. Nurse knows he has to have a better season. Let him improve his trade value same a savoie.

@davehorseman 14 күн бұрын

@WinterWoolies Need a portion of Nurse's salary to pay Draisaitl, Mcdavid and Bouchard contracts. Nobody in the NHL wants Nurse for 9.25 million per season. The only way you get rid of Nurse's ugly contract is if you put a sweetener with it. A small guy like Savoie who already is injury prone in juniors is a bad risk. Savoie will probably have no chance in the NHL. Savoie is a 5 foot 9 player that most likely be pushed around. Oilers are already taking a chance on 2 small guys now with Skinner and Arvidsson. Arvidsson only played 18 games last year, probably going to be injured again this year. Oilers need big skilled.players if they want to return to SFC again

@juuhan4892 14 күн бұрын

@@davehorsemanSmaller guys have been showing they can perform in playoffs so size is not everything. Also you need lot more sweeteners for Nurse somebody even considering it.

@davehorseman 14 күн бұрын

@juuhan4892 small players have not been on the playoff winning teams. Stanley cup winning teams in the last 5 years have had no players smaller than 6 foot tall. The smaller players can't last thru 4 rounds of intensified hitting hockey. Oilers need big elite players if they want to win it all

@juuhan4892 8 күн бұрын

@@davehorseman Alright so Marchessault maybe 5,9 (unlikely) Point 5,10 Lehkonen and Kucherov are not tall players just to name a few. Sure size help but that argument is rubbish

@deltagolavista1 14 күн бұрын

Tin foil hat: Savoie asked for a trade. That’s the only explanation I can think of.

@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm 14 күн бұрын

Both players were expendable. Buffalo has a lot of smaller skilled prospects. They needed a #3 center. They overpaid, but the logic behind it makes sense.

@theharvesterproject6779 14 күн бұрын

Savoie is a small perimeter player made of glass. Hes been bypassed by multiple younger prospects in buffalo. He will get his chances but will be a nothing burger in the NHL where teams actually play Dfence. He cuts to the center and shoots from above the faceoff dots. Never in front of the net/in the corners/ or on the forecheck. Good luck with him and J skinner

@DrewNye 14 күн бұрын

I'm honestly curious if Matt Savoie can make the opening night roster for Edmonton. It may be a little early just yet, but if he can perform better in training camp than guys like Connor Brown or Mattias Janmark, he can possibly crack the roster for the Oilers

@danielnam9026 14 күн бұрын

Savoie’ll get the opportunity to take a spot. It’s all up to him. I’d prefer he gets some reps in Bakersfield then bring him up mid season. There’s no pressure for him to make the team. If he cracks opening night, it’s great for him. If not, it’s valuable development time that’s still beneficial for him and the team.

@eliaminator2313 14 күн бұрын

This Sabres offseason so far just reeks of desperation from a GM that was told he has to make playoffs or he's done. Like McLeod but the value deficit for the Sabres is just crazy

@RIS3N1 14 күн бұрын

Senators.....lol

@eliaminator2313 14 күн бұрын

@@RIS3N1 😂 lol

@RoamHockey 14 күн бұрын

we have the best prospect pool in hockey and still do..we addressed needs, plain and simple..you want to know desperate?? the Sens getting their ass kicked by Detroit in that DeBrincat deal..thats desperate lol

@eliaminator2313 14 күн бұрын

@@RoamHockey ya it was just like this move by the Sabres. It's great to have "the best" prospect pool but if you then trade them all for mid 3rd liners all you have is a mid 3rd line so that's not good is it. Sens got Ullmark from the ADB trade so was it really bad?

@jamesmiller6217 14 күн бұрын

As a Sabres fan, I agree with you. I don’t believe this trade was a logical, rational decision made by the GM. It was probably pressure being put on him by the owner to win, make the playoffs and put fans back in the seats this season-or you’re fired. Lindy Ruff probably also told the Sabres what he would need to win right now, and that included a 3C, but not a prospect. As far as asset management, it’s a horrible trade for Buffalo, but after the draft and the start of FA, we learned that almost no one wants to come to Buffalo. That’s just the reality of the situation, whether Sabres fans want to admit it or not. Even with the additions of McLeod and Ullmark, I believe the that (on paper) the Sabres and Sens dont make the playoffs this year.

@oilcountry2720 14 күн бұрын

Mcleod is very good, defensivly put up 30 points playing under 15 mins a night and no pp. If he becomes a little more physical and gets more ice time, I don't think a 50 point two-way center is out of his reach for him. But edmonton made out like bandits still. Savoie should slot into the top 6 in a year or 2 and put up those numbers in his sleep

@michaelkeller5927 14 күн бұрын

Yeah but he played a TON on Draisaitl's wing. He'll never get 2nd line time with a guy like Drai again. Enjoy his 10 goals and extremely soft play for 2.1 mil.

@brandyndaigneault1758 14 күн бұрын

Savoie is Kailer Yamamoto, won't have much of an impact as a pro and will get phased out because of his size Plus like others said, Savoie got passed by alot of Sabres prospects, je was never going to be top 6 in Buffalo

@ColtStone 14 күн бұрын

Savoie played for my local WHL team for the later part of last season. He averaged over 2 points per game in the regular season and 1.26 per game in the playoffs. I'm an Oilers fan, but I feel for Buffalo. You got robbed.

@josephkelch1332 14 күн бұрын

Funny, I watched the Memorial Cup and Savoie was practically invisible. Very pleased with this trade, the Sabres need to win NOW, not three years from now. You do realize the Sabres have not made the playoffs in a record 13 years, right? Everyone outside of Buffalo just does not understand what it is the status of this franchise.

@juuhan4892 14 күн бұрын

⁠@@josephkelch1332As a Oilers fan have to kinda agree to this. He propably will become solid top 6 option but Buffalo needs playoffs and they have so many prospects that need top line minutes to thrive. Does this trade make difference to them getting playoffs who knows but the roster looks solid and he can kill penalties and play good 0-0 hockey. If they make playoffs nobody cares. But yes they should have gotten little bit more because Edmonton was forced to sell basically

@user-yl5rl7tg2j 14 күн бұрын

finishing isnt Mcleod's problem, its having watched too much top gun and hes obsessed with fly-bys... I think he thought the league would be no hitting by the time he went pro so never bothered to learn

@michaelkeller5927 14 күн бұрын

McLeod played a ton with Draisaitl during the season. Him and Foegle were able to pad their stats. Clouder is crazy overrated

@francescoravenda5070 14 күн бұрын

McLeod is just a David kampf tbh

@freedom1028 14 күн бұрын

Happy to see flyby McLeod go. He is a soft ankle biter.

@afroman6981 13 күн бұрын

So this is what it feels like to win a trade oilers fans here

@s.p.8508 14 күн бұрын

This move reeks of making a move for the sake of making a move. Adams wants to be seen doing something, as he will probably lose his job if they don’t make the playoffs this year. Legit the only people out there who think that Buffalo actually got fair value are Sabres fans who so desperately need them to actually do something that they will justify horrendous trades like this.