Thank you for covering my replay Apollo :) Well I wouldn't say the campers were noobs. It was much more their response to the previous battle where I had almost the same army and my team defeated them quite decisively. There, my cavalry played a major part in the victory, which is probably why they decided to form this box here. Even though I lost that battle, I found it quite amusing that their whole army was geared towards countering mine and yet I was able to get the most kills. In my opinion the best part is where I used my horse archers, who were out of ammunition, to destroy their wooden stakes. Unfortunately, you can't see that good here, the massacre that followed by my melee cavalry then, because all the archers of the "defenders" who were still alive died there and I was able to charge multiple pike units very clean in the backside.
@taeeek01392 жыл бұрын
outstanding bro
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Very nice replay!
2 жыл бұрын
You played extraordinarily well, if the Roman player had done a better job, you would have won easily.
@blakaj312 жыл бұрын
@ While looking at the kills Rome did pretty poorly but Suebi also did absolutely nothing with the bow women and their cav. The bow women were sent all the way up to the frontline to get charged by both cav and infantry. Waiting a minute or 10 and Trebor would have killed off all of their ranged units and the team on the hill would have needed to take the offense, or catch a load of arrows. Fun replay though, prefer to watch open land battles over sieges mostly.
@RoulicisThe2 жыл бұрын
Trying to hold a defensive position (like a hill) is only valid when you can force your opponent to come to you. If your opponent has no choice but to charge you, you can force him into a position advantageous to you, but if you don't have any means of pressuring him into rushing, then you just give him the initiative.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
True
@imadeanaccounttocomment78002 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you are just commenting on the battle or you think this is something the campers didn’t do, because they were able to force the attackers i.e. artillery superiority but they just couldn’t capitalise on that advantage.
@RoulicisThe2 жыл бұрын
@@imadeanaccounttocomment7800 I'm mainly using this opportunity to leave a piece of advice for players watching the video who may not be aware of this.
@ordotectonicus85852 жыл бұрын
The noob box isn't perfect but you do have to admit. Seeing all those troops is awesome. I think i prefer these massive open field no rules battles just for their scale.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are pretty cool
@Juel922 жыл бұрын
I want wayyyyyyyy more of these no-rules pitched battles.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are fun to watch
@LegionOfRome2 жыл бұрын
Historical total wars are coming back into fashion!!! Hopefully Medieval 3 hints within the next year.
@theducknavy92882 жыл бұрын
creative assembly could very well mess it up like they did with all the new games
@astrosherlock3742 жыл бұрын
They'll mess it up BAD
@wfr11082 жыл бұрын
pretty unlikely for the next title to come until 2024 at this rate. If they don't brick it and make another half-assed game
@StinkyGreenBud2 жыл бұрын
Man don't even...I have been wanting a Medieval 3 or Empire 2 for years now. I was so angry when CA went fantasy when they said for years they never would. I get it, there is a market for fantasy but they totally left us historical peeps in the dust.
@wfr11082 жыл бұрын
@@StinkyGreenBud big corporations dont care for their customers they just want money. CA is a sega puppet
@nadavlevaton14552 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason why the non-hill players lost is because they didn't bring that many archers which could have been key to destroy the pikes in the last 10 minutes of the battle.
@spxdel85202 жыл бұрын
A lot of it was the rome player he could have easily routed 3 units of pikemen but he targeted 1 unit of archers instead which was a huge blunder because rome is probably the strongest faction for countering pikemen with infantry
@lol_histicall42892 жыл бұрын
These pikeman plays are nothing I’ve ever seen before like this is actually insane
@SCP--fj2jr2 жыл бұрын
*They surrounded a couple of units. With pikemen. Only few could really dream of such an accomplishment.*
@saguntum-iberian-greekkons70142 жыл бұрын
They mostly needed to watch for the pessky Baktrian Cavalry. As a noobox amateur myself you have to be aware of the cav running around, what were the defenders thinking to let be flanked so many times? Especially at the end
@lewiswest4202 жыл бұрын
Ahhh so this was the fabled Trebor fight from chat, very fun battle - enjoyed the open air siege concept
2 жыл бұрын
It is true what Apollo says at the end, the main reason for the defeat of the attackers was due to the poor use of the Roman troops. We all know that any player who knows how to use Rome well, could easily beat factions with pikemen. It was useless for the Bactrian player to open gaps and distract the enemy pikemen with his mobility, if the Roman was not able to keep up with him, there were many moments in which he had his troops stopped, doing nothing. =/
@yakson.89732 жыл бұрын
Finally a rome video by Apollo thats not a siege
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Haha your welcome
@epicgeneral16312 жыл бұрын
Horseman gets surrounded by pikes. Random Soldier: *steps into circle pointing sword at horseman* “FIGHT ME!!! ONE ON ONE!!! Horseman: shut up frank… *smacks him in face with his shield*
@misc14532 жыл бұрын
This battle was over and decided 15 minutes into it; if an army, no matter who leads it, cannot maintain their battle lines and have no feasible second line of defence, they are doomed.
@adamthestonerful2 жыл бұрын
God that noob box makes me sick just looking at it disgusting.
@KashTube-n8y2 жыл бұрын
In a square defensive formation, Cavalry destroyed. Reminds anyone of Carrhae?
@swampboyblack56282 жыл бұрын
34 minutes of apology hating on da noob square
@Romans-10v92 жыл бұрын
I'm ready! I'm ready! I'm ready!
@historyafficionado4782 жыл бұрын
Gigantic Noob box strategy, oh yeah!
@saguntum-iberian-greekkons70142 жыл бұрын
Noobox brother!
@dericcheshire47032 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing this unruly battle of attrition featuring Bactria, my favorite faction considering they can field ele, pikes, hoplites, fast+tanky cav, and even shock infantry especially on DEI.
@mingtasong94652 жыл бұрын
The seleucids are better in every way, but Bactria is still a good faction but Seleucid is an overall stronger faction and even one of the strongest faction in the game
@thejoker28762 жыл бұрын
Hey apollo, keep up the good content bro your the main reason I got into strategy games been watching you for around 2 years now, lost my old account so I resubscribed recently 😁.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@sam_iwty94652 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pro, but if your army mainly consists of Archers, because of a slight campaign building mistake, I think it makes sense to be a little more defensively on a hill. Especially if your enemies's army mainly consists of Infantry.
@infinityx_50172 жыл бұрын
Hey Apollo love these no rule battles plz do more
@gaiusbrutus2 жыл бұрын
I loved my bactrian campaign it was my most successful by far even though I had multiple civil wars
@sinonkryze36382 жыл бұрын
Hi just finished your latest stream Apollo and gotta say it was an epic ending and that was a satisfying end to the campaign.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for joining me
@Odysseus13132 жыл бұрын
I hope to hear an announcement soon for a historical total war. Another good historical strategy game is grand tactician civil war
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Keep waiting lol
@AlHyckGaemsTAD2 жыл бұрын
Good battle, very enjoyable. I think it says a lot about the mechanics of Rome 2 more than anything that the hill defenders won despite the active deployment of the Roman allied force. Not to say that the defenders were bad per say, they too had some good responses and actions.
@Lauris21452 жыл бұрын
My brain hurt and eyes were bleeding watching this replay, both sides completely flopped it but it's fun to remember those newbie games where in the middle of battle you are still trying to figure out what ur unit does :D
@smuffinman2 жыл бұрын
Apollo! Love the pitched battles. You should organize a battle of Guagamela remake kinda like you did with the battle of Troy! Would love to see it
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@negusjojo36692 жыл бұрын
Just gonna say,PA’S vids with manuvers and strats are amazing that livestream yesterday was the best one I’ve seen
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@negusjojo36692 жыл бұрын
Any time Apollo
@LevCallahan2 жыл бұрын
One of those examples where the title of video matches the actual content. I really haven't seen a battle like this before. There were numerous examples where both sides looked like pros, but then didn't. It was strange, but exciting. But honestly, the micro was probably what caused some of the strange plays/lack thereof.
@troydodson9641 Жыл бұрын
"These are Sparta's walls." Lycurgus Hoplites in box, what a noob
@CaesarSonOfMars2 жыл бұрын
Plays as Successor Kingdoms Forms noob box A shameful display
@jefferynelson2 жыл бұрын
24:28 use of drawing tool very helpful
@davidnguyen4672 жыл бұрын
Nearly half an hour of roman envelopment and the noob box still lacked the organization to muster a defense. What are they smoking
@faraowatson77052 жыл бұрын
love the videos keep it up bro!
@freeezegames10482 жыл бұрын
As a Total War player that has poor micro, the hill camp is real. I get to fixated on one point of a battle and the rest crumbles away pretty quickly. I think I've won a total of two multiplayer total war battles. The one through sheer luck and the other because I was teaching a friend a little about the game.
@AfaqueAhmed_2 жыл бұрын
The "Defenders " be like :- We don't need walls , our men are our walls .
@gchecosse2 жыл бұрын
Triarii were the veteran soldiers when the Roman army was an army of peasant conscripts, they're not superior to the professional legions of the later periods which are in this battle, on the contrary.
@Komyets2 жыл бұрын
10:20 lol did the elephants really stampede through friendly troops there? Poor infantry guys got bruised XD
@thax321 Жыл бұрын
Look at this! I mean look at this! Look at these men with sticks we've seen a zillion times before! Look at it! 😂
@irfanfajri3772 жыл бұрын
Always love your rome 2 videos!
@alex14532 жыл бұрын
Noob or not, it was tremendous fun to watch.
@jimjones46442 жыл бұрын
I really hope you try out that "war of the gods" mod. I think you would like it. They even changed the way the AI acts so battles last a little longer.
@TheEmperorBubbles2 жыл бұрын
Might be time for you to cover some Total War League if you are getting into land battles.
@swaggybigchungus3244 Жыл бұрын
this was so chaotic and crazy yet amazing at the same time
@someguygaming92484 ай бұрын
I saw this two times, so now i can say that i have seen a battle exactly like this.
@ARCPolus2 жыл бұрын
The way the pikes go down at 1:50 tho
@jamesd83972 жыл бұрын
This was an intense battle
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@thebard83572 жыл бұрын
Deleted my youtube by accident then had so many exams. Sufficed to say it's good to hear “we got good battle hear today".
@captainkielbasa54718 ай бұрын
noob box will always be hilarious
@muriconmusle2 жыл бұрын
You make the best videos!!!! and have the best commentary!!
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@VincentSaan2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a good historical TW with spanish Tercio noobboxes made of pikes and muskets. Its a time period games dont like to acknowledge
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. =D
@krystofcisar4694 ай бұрын
noobboxing with pikeman squares would be great :D
@ailediablo792 жыл бұрын
What if the camper on a hell top is good not noop? Where the micro is good. What would happen? What if 2 make a camp and 2 fight around. Or 3 camps and one full horse army goes around them with too few horse Arches unite? I think it is a easy way to win. Especially if you have the upper hand interms of army power.
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Good players don’t camp
@ailediablo792 жыл бұрын
@@PixelatedApollo1 ya i understand. But what if they do once, would they win?
@adolfo2677 Жыл бұрын
This Battle was awesome, really fun to watch while I wait for my girlfriend to be ready for go and eat some quesadilla
@C-Worx2 жыл бұрын
oh i love your commentating! So funny!
@rohithmathew83572 жыл бұрын
Love Rome ❤️❤️ Want to see more of rome2 🙏
@iomulus8422 жыл бұрын
i hope you are going to hit 1 million
@spxdel85202 жыл бұрын
Hill camping is literally the most logical way to defend because it makes your armour twice as effective if a melee unit is fighting uphill doesn't it? Also that macedon player was obviously new i felt bad for him but then I realized when I saw the rome player using 3 units of heavy melee infantry one of which being elite to attack 1 unit of archers from the same direction when he could have flanked their entire pike line in the rear and realized this guy is also pretty new to this 😂 honestly rome is like perfect for an infantry counter for pikemen macedon would have been way better off using less pikes more peltasts when he saw he was up against a rome and no archers whatsoever because only certain archer units are useful and macedon doesn't have them but they have extremely strong royal peltasts that could have routed their elephants in like 2 volleys its awesome to see people starting to get into rome 2 its such an unappreciated game not the best total war but definitely underrated
@ianramos81092 жыл бұрын
MVP goes to Bactria.
@kryzzan70392 жыл бұрын
Hey have you heard of the game that's coming out called "Rise Of Piracy" It's supposed to be a mix between Empire TW/MnB Warband
@savaslavinov30332 жыл бұрын
I think this is battle of news players who just make this battle for fun :)
@MBP19182 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@whiteboarinn2 жыл бұрын
nice to see a pitch battle again. siege battles got boring already
@thatonefigfiggy33062 жыл бұрын
A lot of catapults
@gaiusmanus79592 жыл бұрын
King Harald Hadrada used the noob box in his last battle and he died so 😢
@gabesch1llyt2562 жыл бұрын
Pixalated , could you try out uebs 2 , i think you would like it
@fplmosa80612 жыл бұрын
I love this game I also love your commentery too!!♥️
@gchecosse2 жыл бұрын
It's constantly jarring to hear "Egypt" and "the Seleucids": it should be Egypt and Syria or the Ptolemies and the Seleucids.
@jefferynelson2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here- introducing the team's & identifying them as 'reds' or 'blues' helps me follow the battle,, thanks for all the content !!
@PixelatedApollo12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subbing!
@killuminati477 Жыл бұрын
Bactria had it in the bag but rome and swavey slacked it huge
@aryanrana54362 жыл бұрын
oooman that was a cool battle
@m.noorseptian81732 жыл бұрын
Lemme grab my snack and drink
@michaelmightens12912 жыл бұрын
oh fuck yess apollo
@crimsonfoxonusae44722 жыл бұрын
Hi Apollo, i just started Rome II campagin and it's super hard, do you recommend anything for new players?
@thegnomelord14262 жыл бұрын
In the siege battles I see the pyramid battering ram but I don't know what they are or how I can get them, are they locked under a dlc? If so what is the dlc?
@AstroTheBalancer2 жыл бұрын
3:36.... Guess they weren't noobs
@j.a.g.e.r.s.l.e.a.u.g.e93302 жыл бұрын
His vids are really good much love from nz
@tommypark2522 Жыл бұрын
I wish the banners were as easy to distinguish as they are on rome 1
@ganstosans41372 жыл бұрын
When siege player try land battle they noob box
@brucebanner52472 жыл бұрын
awesome vid
@zmeu_md38312 жыл бұрын
please record battles with the DEI mod because battles are longer there and requires more tactics
@BernieTheDevastator2 жыл бұрын
I usually wanna vote for Macedonia cuz I like iskandar From fate zero but oof. This was painful to watch
@Soilderspl0s2 жыл бұрын
You’re the best
@aryanrana54362 жыл бұрын
pls cover more rome 2 battle
@akshaypenagaluri92312 жыл бұрын
juicy... hmm... SUS
@neilevans63312 жыл бұрын
let's play humankind part 1
@17_jager37 Жыл бұрын
If medieval 3, rome 3, or shogun 3 would come, id be happy m8 Edit: stupid box camping pikes
@kobusvandenbrink16799 ай бұрын
If you square up atleast do it well haha
@campodemarte43522 жыл бұрын
Hey apollo, would consider syncing your videos to Odysee? I would love to watch you from there.
@peterderidder9922 Жыл бұрын
The team who desided to defend are probably beginners ?! or maybe it was a agreement before the game begon 1 team would defend and the otther one attacking. Considderid the build up from the armie's I'm pretty sure they agreed to do this before the game begon... First the attackers wannated to take out as much archers as possible from the def, to youre there own archers shooting dons hilcampers pikes, but the attackers forgot to defend there own archers. So this plan didnd worked....
@machaihorton87412 жыл бұрын
Play old World world
@jackjacl20892 жыл бұрын
Noob box
@machaihorton87412 жыл бұрын
Please please please
@Pilot-752 жыл бұрын
Face reveal!
@Matthew-br5ci2 жыл бұрын
Hi apollo
@ldtxelidwnis84452 жыл бұрын
bad battle
@bob23686 ай бұрын
Why do you have to insult other players like this? Noob that, noob this, thats just disrespectfull and if you re doing replays you should be respectfull to all. Its not like you are prfect, how would you feel if someone called you idiot or some shit because of choices you took?? I liked battle alot but you ruined it with your comments.
@PixelatedApollo16 ай бұрын
I get called an idiot all the time. I don't cry about it like you do.
@Mr.Death101172 жыл бұрын
Hate noob boxes and hill campers very disappointed in the attackers
@matheusparragrillo35772 жыл бұрын
First
@rikweeda58442 жыл бұрын
ok
@gregsurles41992 жыл бұрын
1st is the worst
@patrickrobinson545 Жыл бұрын
Good Apollo i think the noob box wiill win and kill your run arounders :)!