Thank you, just had a 13yr relationship go south and was looking at sail boat living to keep my head above water so to speak I love the water and fishing it seems like a sure thing
@dwaynejackman38853 жыл бұрын
I’m getting out of 22 year and tomorrow I’m looking at a 25 foot sailboat.. I understand
@theflyingfanatic36843 жыл бұрын
Lol I sold the ring I was going to give to my ex, and now I get to spend that money on a boat
@patrickmahan3512 жыл бұрын
@@theflyingfanatic3684 it’s ok, the boat will require less maintenance
@jenniferfields60112 жыл бұрын
@@echoesandether go for it, I'm doing the same. You won't look back,good luck
@ryans99302 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@Upnorthof483 жыл бұрын
Paid $800 for my 1974 CAT22, and have put in maybe a couple of grand bringing her back to life. I’m having so much fun with this boat, the process, and honing my sailing!
@TokiBruchpilot043 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear! I am looking forward to refit my "Bandholm 24". I will start in Juny 2021 and hope, i will have fun, like you. Good Sailing!
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
@@TokiBruchpilot04Good luck and thanks for watching!
@cwalke324773 жыл бұрын
I bought a 17' "pocket yacht" for $350. I spent about an additional $1000 restoring it. Couldn't be happier for a measly $1300 boat! Me and the kid love our weekend camping trips in it.
@penhdog22074 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@NeneMiko223 жыл бұрын
How cool.. my dad worked at this boat factory back in the 80’s, he was happy to see one again. ✨☺️
@traceyhutt12463 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. He did a public service 😊
@NotaFlea4 жыл бұрын
Love the series of videos. One thing you forgot to mention is if you trailer the boat you have to demast it after every outing, and restep the mast every time you go out. For that reason alone many keep the trailerables wet. I also think that when buying a small boat in the water many will not have them gone over by a professional so you need to have someone show you how to look for blisters or soft spots. I never trust that sails are new, I always assume all sails and running rigging needs to be replaced. And as you have said alot, small boats are not fast but sailing is the ultimate way to boat. It does not get any better than a fast broad reach in good winds. Great channel, keep up the posts
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Good point, thanks for adding that.
@savage22bolt322 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great educational video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout the video.
@AdventuresInParadise2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Music can move a video along while helping set the mood and tone of the video. But you're right, not always a good thing!
@johnnybehealthy57203 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for all the info. Bought Catalina 30 last month for close to 8K. I am 1/2 way through repairs and in for $5k so far. Needed to replace heat exchanger, bilge pump, engine parts. Other costs include mechanical parts, cleaning supplies, dinghy, outboard and lines. At least, sails are in great condition. 🥴
@yotammelichar58563 жыл бұрын
Nice! I looked at a Cat 30 today. Looks like an awesome boat! Did you get it surveyed/professionally inspected before you bought it? Great buying price!
@adamsanders892 жыл бұрын
Great overview, many of those items can be reduced in cost with the right shopping around, I work in industrial equipment sales and have access to discount on stainless hardware companies that sell specific marine fittings, cleats, pulleys etc.. and you would be amazed at the crazy margins these companies charge for basic stuff, pays to shop around and ask for discount.
@Nathanburby4 жыл бұрын
Just getting into the world of sailing and your videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. Please keep up the great work!
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it!
@Nathanburby4 жыл бұрын
Adventures In Paradise if you don’t mind me asking, what size anchor did you upgrade to? Specifically, how heavy did you go? I am getting a 20 foot boat in a few weeks and am exploring the multiple upgrades that I am going to have to make. Thanks again!
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
@@Nathanburby went from 17lbs to 22lbs. The 22 held in four high wind thunderstorms where sailflow sent me alerts for wind over 40mph. The 17lb anchor would drag a little once and a while. And you're welcome, thanks for watching!
@KiwiSkipper4 жыл бұрын
thats a good effort .. way cheaper than I thought it would be.
@Max142113 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you so much breaking this down as cleanly as you did I am sure it wasn't easy to count out all of your past payments like that for us.
@BeamReach7404 жыл бұрын
1980 Neptune 16: Boat/trailer/good sails $700 Standing rigging $150 Keep pivot pin, shims and lock bolt $150 (labor, had done) Keel winch cable $100 (labor, had done) Running rigging $75 I built a custom hatch $40 New portlights $25 New 2.5 Suzuki $80 Hinges $15 Compass $80 Anchor/rode $75 Misc odds/ends Total = $1M
@blhack1232 жыл бұрын
Yeah this seems about average for the misc odds and ends.
@kwekumensah56422 жыл бұрын
Does the number after the model/make represent the amount of feet?
@Verradonairun2 жыл бұрын
Kweku - not always, but often.
@kwekumensah56422 жыл бұрын
@@Verradonairun oh ok
@deweypug3 жыл бұрын
Bought a Precision 18 for $350 - it was advertised for $2500. A foot of water inside, tons of mold, trailer needed lights and tires. I was going to walk away until the owner asked what I would realistically pay and I told her I would think twice about talking it if she gave it to me. (True!) The upsides: it came with two sets of sails and cushions that were stored inside, a 2011 Yamaha four stroke motor, many extra's. Took me two days to get the trailer back to road worthiness for a 2 hour drive back home. Spent over $2200 and untold hours getting her to perfect condition (two years later, teak extra's and buffing she's purdy slick sight)
@mikeperry31495 ай бұрын
In Dec.2023 I bought a 30` Hunter from a sailor in New Port Richey Fl. for 2k with 3 good sails, rigging and solar power with a running 2QM20 yanmar that needed a raw water pump rebuilt . He needed the boat out of the slip for a new boat so bargaining was easy. Me my Brother and sister in-law motored and sailed the boat from NPR to Port Saint Lucie Fl. across the Okeechobee Waterway 6 days with no issues. Couldn`t be happier.
@docteurdre84504 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of good advice in your video. I’m interested to by small sailboat and your video are inspiring. I’m from Canada near Montreal and Catalina 22 footers are often available and it seems a good choice for a first boat. Thanks for all the great videos
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Good luck and let me know what happens!
@carltonsiple18764 жыл бұрын
1980 Pearson 23 Cat, paid $1500, was in great shape with a trailer and fresh bottom paint, my most expensive part is the slip fee of $335 a month, need to move it to a cheaper lake 🙃 . No major investment other than cleaning supplies and my solar add on.
@MrToranaGuy4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting up your costing video. Great inspiration. I have a small fiberglass fishing boat currently and have started to look for a trailer sailer yacht, and watching videos like this shows that with a bit of effort, you don't have to spend a fortune to get out there on the water.
@user-bb3jq7im1m Жыл бұрын
Was given a Cat 22 a month ago by a new friend. This is very helpful in showing me what to expect to get it reliable after a 3 year 'break' with the previous owner.
@joseescabi4 жыл бұрын
I got my C-22 about a month ago for $2,800 on ebay. I keep mine in the Great Salt Lake, and my slip fees are significantly less than yours, mine are $126 per month in the summer which includes water. Fortunately mine is in really good shape, only things I have added are wax about $25, registration $380, and a solar power controller for $17. But... I think new sheets and halyards may be in the future...
@brassrainbow55683 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. I recently purchased a 76 Catalina 27’ completely restored and upgraded with new everything for $5K. Heavy duty chain plates, new sails, new battery with solar charger, new Ritchie compass, new composting toilet, new upgraded rigging, new VHF radio, new bottom paint plus a boatload of maintenance and cleaning supplies, Johnson 8HP outboard, brand new rail mount gas grill, and a bunch more. It included the slip fee for another month and haul out, pressure wash and winter storage which would have been $1K so I basically got it for $4K. I love it! Now I just gotta learn how to sail. It’s currently in Connecticut, but I’d like to snowbird it to Florida next fall.
@sailingleantimes57104 жыл бұрын
bought a mcgregor 25 in march for 3,500 and spent 1,500 more getting her perfect!!now i have just bought a hunter 41 and that is more than i care to mention here lol
@maddogmaz15763 жыл бұрын
I just got a Macgregor 25 myself. paid $500 I have about 1000 in her. Love this boat.
@sailingleantimes57103 жыл бұрын
Mark Rooster sweet they are great little boats and fast to boot.
@sailingblackphoenix49743 жыл бұрын
I have a Hunter 376
@lowellirish2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...but your McGregor is 5x the boat his is...You can't put a 30hp outboard on his and go water skiing, it's not self righting, not trailerable, not water ballast..Your best is practically unsinkable! ...and it's one of my favorites!!
@Rontero3 жыл бұрын
1965 Columbia 26 and 1993 mercury 9.9 outboard in a well for $1900. Needed cleaning to sail. Needs lots of work to be proud. Love learning to sail. Your clip wrangling the headsail is me. I pay $1200/year for the slip. She is on the Mississippi River.
@530eman4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I bought a 1976 C22 about 10yrs ago, in a bit better shape than yours for 2K. Upgrade costs were certainly comparable to yours. All said and done probably about $4800-$5000. Worth it to me... like you said; the availability of parts, data and information on the Catalinas is a huge game changer with older ⛵️ 😎
@onesaltyzombie Жыл бұрын
I bought my 78 Catalina for $1500 with trailer. A few leaky windows but ready to sail. I owned it for two weeks before hurricane Katrina took her. 😢
@Don-kr5tp3 жыл бұрын
Marine connection Liquidators in Ft. Pierce. They have so much at about 1/2 of West Marine prices. Amazing store for marine equipment, parts and accessories.
@worklessenjoylifemore4 жыл бұрын
Just found your videos and subscribed!! We purchased our first sailboat a couple weeks ago. We didn’t know how to sail, in fact we never even stepped foot on a sailboat until we bought this one. But always we had the dream to learn and hopefully retire on one someday. We bought a 24ft Neptune that was in great condition and ready to sail for $4500 and still dealing with title transfer and marina slip rental transfer so the cost keeps adding up (slow process with covid-19) Thanks for posting these videos and we look forward to watching all of them!!
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Hopefully you can make a video or two so we can see!
@worklessenjoylifemore4 жыл бұрын
Adventures In Paradise we actually just starting to learn how to do videos. We currently have a couple videos I posted on my channel a few weeks ago with our other boat. Soon I will have a couple more videos to post and they will include our sailboat.
@SteelDoesMyWill4 жыл бұрын
I bought my C22 for $500, but it was in way worse condition. I'm one of those idiots that likes a challenge. It's easier to list what is original on the boat since that since that is a much shorter list, everything else is new. Add to that a blister repair job, full restoration of the keel, painting the entire boat, etc. New sails, new outboard, new rigging, new hardware, etc... I spent about $7K on parts and supplies, that doesn't include my labor.
@tahoetimm96623 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke. Did you do any deck work? I have a soft spot on my 1974 C22 and wondering if I should tackle from the top or under and thru the liner. I'm leaning towards top. Thx
@SteelDoesMyWill3 жыл бұрын
@@tahoetimm9662 I only had one rotten spot around the electrical thru deck fitting for the mast wiring, it was about 4 x 4 inches. Repairing deck rot is always easier from the top on a Catalina (any model). The catch 22 is that you're going to tear up the non-skid pattern on the gelcoat which really can't be duplicated in a repair. If you fix extensive deck rot just plan on re-doing all the nonskid with Kiwi Grip, you only need one gallon to do the entire boat and its a really great deck surface. It also has the added bonus of hiding imperfection if your new fiberglass top surface isn't automotive grade bodywork level.
@RandomButtonPusher4 жыл бұрын
Had a 1990 Catalina Capri 26, which was a solid, dependable, manageable boat, that was in great shape at 15 years old. Over the course of 8 years, we upgraded electronics and electrical, rigging & lines, and sails. When we had to sell her, we did well -- getting back 70% of what we paid for her originally, not counting the upgrades. When we looked at what we shelled out for those 8 great seasons on the water, it wasn't bad at all. When we were looking for a boat, there was a lot of push from brokers to get something bigger "so we wouldn't grow out of it quickly," but we knew what we wanted as a couple. Finding an solid older Catalina, especially the 22, 25 or 27 should be doable for most prospective sailors if they take their time and learn what needs elbow grease vs. what needs $$.
@AfterDeath19864 жыл бұрын
Valiant 40 Purchase 20k Insurance (2 years) 2k Slip (2 years) 7k Upgrades repairs 40k (Engine seals, batteries, sealing water tanks, port holes, man holes, new sheets, new windlass, etc etc etc) 20' boats are exponentially cheaper, but we are also looking to go offshore.. so their is that.
@Michael-uc7gr17 сағат бұрын
Great video. My first boat was similar...a Cal 224. It was a terrific, affordable boat. You didn't mention any gelcoat repairs, replacing the old wiring, running and masthead lights, through-hulls, or if it had a head or sink that need replacing.
@MHow190016 күн бұрын
I bought a 1979 Catalina 22 with the trailer for $600. I replaced the standing rigging with Dyneema, Added sump pump. Added a 1957 Evenrude outboard. Getting ready to take her out tomorrow.
@c0ri2 жыл бұрын
Great point about checking part availability prior to buying your boat. Nice breakdown and I felt it was very fair assessment. Thanks!
@williamestrada21493 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial straight to the point I love it thank you
@Taylor314T53 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I have been sucked into sailing again over the past couple years. Did some sailing with my family when I was younger and living at home. Now I would like my own boat for my family. Something small and trailerable, but big enough for sleeping and cooking for overnight trips. The C22 seems to fit the bill. Not sure where I would keep it, or if I could even get the boat backed up our steepish driveway. Toying around with the idea at any rate. I like your videos.
@fredrodriguez39134 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. I bet the cost would be double if you had paid someone to do all that work(?)
@tomwinkle55362 жыл бұрын
Closer to tripled, most jobs are materials x 2 for labor. 1k in parts, 2k for labor.
@dianalynn3600 Жыл бұрын
Tripple at least marine labor is out rageous.
@davidbernick21583 жыл бұрын
We bought our 1974 C22 at my daughters school fundraiser (it was donated) for $450. Not only was she complete, but had 3 sets of sails. A lot of elbow grease to get her pretty and a few simple repairs, mostly tightening things and some rewiring, all done by us. I always thought I would want a big boat, but 22 is a good size for single hand sailing and for trailering. Thans for the great videos!
@just-dlАй бұрын
You make it sound more economical than i expected. Other expenses I’m forseeing…trailer, galley equipment and supplies (if any), compass, wheel/tiller maintenance, mast repair, etc, etc.
@matthewsilva82254 жыл бұрын
Another great video for a person looking to get in the game. Very well made and helpful.
@aarnmn4 жыл бұрын
I was half expecting a comment from your wife on here 🤣
@patricklaffey39153 жыл бұрын
G'Day I just but a catalina 25 and just now looking at what it needs in terms of fixing. Some of the items you mentioned are on my list, good to have the cost listed. Cheers
@Blueisdeath13 жыл бұрын
Man you kicked ass on the DIY.
@theslimemolds50993 жыл бұрын
So in love with the Catalina 22. Couldn't thank you more for such awesome info fun videos ⛵
@cumbis1234 жыл бұрын
Looks great! Notice how the sails are the most expensive part. That's why mine look like shit and I will continue to run them until they are rags.
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to run the jib out. They are expensive.
@RandomButtonPusher4 жыл бұрын
It was about 20 years old when our "original" roller-furled genny blew out while on the water. Tough to cough up for a brand new 130 genoa, but dang the improvement in the sailing was worth the pain to the pocket.
@mbhull274 жыл бұрын
Hello AIP - I bought my 1970 C-22 (hull #284) for $356.00 on E-bay through a charity auction - a real risk for sure. However, it turned out to be an awesome deal. Keel is in really good shape, rudder is good shape, keel winch and cable are in usable shape (new cable and new winch provided in sale), Rigging is in excellent shape (I bent one turnbuckle end learning how to raise the mast but there were two extra TB in the box of stuff), Sails are in OK shape (main needs replaced), hull is solid below the split line (no leaks or soft spots), leaked through the deck in spots (all fixed now). There are other problems above the split line but nothing that won't allow me to sail this year and fix her in the winter. Two areas of wood in the deck that are going bad need to be cut out and replaced. Bought a new mast step/Bolt $30, Fiberglass epoxy/cloth $20, Outboard 15hp Johnson $400, Polyurethane $16, Topping lift $20, Trailer winch and Strap $70, CG safety flares $30, new trailer tires $320, screws/nuts/bolts/hasp - $100. So I guess I have about $1400 in it right now. Deck repairs will be about another $100 in epoxy, glass, wood, sand paper and then paint... No electronics yet??
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
WOW! Yea, I watched those auctions and saw some really good boats going to nothing sometimes... that's great!
@scott.wallace86254 жыл бұрын
1970 $500 westerly cirrus 22. New dynema running rigging $300 small boat so i buy cut ends on the sale rack. Solar panel $50. mppt $110. New through hulls $30. Marine head discarded for a composting head. Through hull re-used for a urinel $20. D8 tractor battery savlvaged $back pain. (100 lbs) cooking $20 camping stove suspended with chain to a 3 point( holds it tight) gimbal so $25. $105 diesel heater (chinese) $200 to install it and not die a horrible death. Force air heat not too bad. Led bulbs to replace $100? Ish. Propane hot water on demand water heater for hot showers $60 a $100 to get the yanmar 1 gm10 running solid. Bottom paint and blister repair $250. By far my most expensive thing so far has been moorage
@scott.wallace86254 жыл бұрын
This boat i can circumnavigate with. just need too install the roller coaster bars. That said i met a couple with a baby in cancun they sailed a catalina 27 from seattle. Not the best boats but they float. The rest is the guy in charge
@STONEDARTphotos4 жыл бұрын
Bought a C-22 three years ago and love it. Best additions: Solar panel and auto pilot. Cheers from the Tennessee River.
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Yea, I need to get auto pilot. I hope to get one this fall.
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
Didn't get one yet. I have a tiller tamer I'm going to play with first.
@gigioecu4 жыл бұрын
We’re about the same my Catalina 22 cost me $5500 but has 4 sets of sails, three of which are good, the one that isn’t will be a backyard sun shade. Outside of the purchase price I probably have a $1,000 into it. You are right the bigger the boat the more the costs add up. I’m lucky to be in Texas where slip fees are affordable. Not focusing on the cost, I will say that I love the way the Catalina sails. When the wind is right it always puts a smile on my face. It is comfortable enough without the big headaches of a larger boat. I prefer it to sailing a sunfish, which is fun to sail but really beats up your body. If I were to do it again I would have bought the 17’ trailerable $1,200 wooden snipe I passed on, restored it sailed it on my local lake and probably be out $3,000 total. So far this has been a great learning boat but I have had my troubles with it as well. The magic of a small boat is to not have to deal with systems, that is where the costs and the headaches start. My goal for this Catalina is to learn to sail it well, then find the kitchen slide out and use it as a dedicated camper.
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
We have the same goal except I wonder if the kitchen slide out is not needed. A gas stove is fine and then you save the much needed space inside. Plus, with small gas burner, you can cook in the cockpit too, or on a little island you're parked next to.
@gigioecu4 жыл бұрын
Adventures In Paradise I saw a slideout at my club, it needs restoration, but it has the drawers and water tank that make it a good option. But you are right a small gas stove is fine, I use it to sail on a local lake and don’t trailer it.
@MrBobVick4 жыл бұрын
Had the "official " slide out gally. Did not like the sink drain discharge location that would gain water when heeled - never did leak. But took that out and added a catch tank for the grey water. Used it one time to make the kids hot chocolate. Best thing about is it did help with the resale price of 5k. (New sails, outboard, copper bottom job, new keel pin/bearings & the list goes on.)
@alanpitkin4113 ай бұрын
I restored a 76 Catalina 22 it was a blast I paid 1,900 put about 3,000 in her it is a beautiful boat now. I love sailing her on the rivers in Washington
@jimbailey56552 жыл бұрын
I just got my 1982 Catalina 22, sail number 11353, about 3 weeks ago... I actually traded a $800 guitar and a $200 amplifier for it that I was no longer using ( I have many many more) . Complete with 2 older main sails in fair condition, one rather nice jib, and no motor. I'm sure it will need all new running rigging, and possibly new standing rigging also. I will make brand new seat cushions with new foam with my industrial sewing machines. I don't have to do everything at once, one step at a time while enjoying sailing ... I will certainly do the most important items first, keel cable and pin, etc. including some trailer work too. I do expect to have at least $4,500 all in all. 😎⛵
@CO84trucker3 жыл бұрын
During the 90s, my father maintained (and fixed) several older sailboats. One of his philosophies about sailing was that it's for people without a fixed timetable!
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
That's def. true... I'll bet a lot of people buy sailboats without realizing that you can't get anywhere for a vacation with only a week to spare... you really need more time. Or... it has to be just about the journey and not getting anywhere.
@gagegames50292 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited, this is my main goal right now. I plan on living in a sail boat full time, paying a slip, and working as an electrician to afford it. These boats are getting cheap! Time to make the jump
@Anamazing3 жыл бұрын
1969 Neptune 16 = $600. New antifouling bottom paint =$400. New full standing rigging + running rigging + deck mast step plate = $1700. New companion way door =$125. New traveler block, New outhaul block, New jib block = $200 New trolling motor, deep cycle battery, dock lines, anchor, anchor chain + anchor line = $760 New tires and wheels for the trailer = $150.... Total $3935 for a "cheap" craigslist sailboat.
@Anamazing3 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, title and registration... invasive species permit, New ball for my hitch to match the trailer, 12 volt switch and interior lighting, bilge pump, fish finder, cushions. And of course, more.
@savage22bolt322 жыл бұрын
But the wind is free! That's what they told me when I bought my first hang glider...
@BRANDINGIRON133 жыл бұрын
I owned 9757 and brought her back. It was in much better starting condition that yours was, and admittedly I also went through Catalina direct for a lot of my repairs. Looking back I realize that I paid CD a hefty commission for what they supply you with. Gerhauer is the cheapest option for replacement running rigging but is quality. For the same price you can find higher quality brands like lewmar and harken. Better halyards can be bought for much less. For me it was a joy to refit my boat and that’s how it should be looked at, like you said a hobby.
@felixcat93182 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interesting, informative and entertaining video which meticulously detailed your total costs and the work required to get the boat into a good, seaworthy condition. The image of the rudder with the abundant marine life infestation foretold the condition on he hull. Your transformation of the boat was quite remarkable and she looks fantastic. Subscribed.
@DJ112233444 жыл бұрын
Going to look at a Catalina 22 this Thursday. They are good little boats
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what happens!
@obiwanfisher5373 жыл бұрын
For that size I would definitely opt out for a Cirrus 22 from Westerly if you like separate cabins, standing headroom, separate heads, with a proper little galley, sink and a inboard engine.
@DFX2KX3 жыл бұрын
@@obiwanfisher537 the issue is finding them. Cat 22s are *everywhere*. Even the 25s and 27s are pretty common if you want something a bit bigger still on the cheap.
@obiwanfisher5373 жыл бұрын
@@DFX2KX The cirrus is the best selling boat from Westerly. I dont think theyrehard to come by. They even were exported to the us in big numbers.
@martinmcquaide48072 жыл бұрын
1980 universal marine montego. 1,400 to buy with a small trailer. Trailer needed more than the boat. Found a used loadrite, new bearings and rollers that I got at a garage sale for 20 bucks. The hard blue ones not the sun cracked yellow. New lines and a traveler block about 450, 3 hp yamaha long shaft almost new 300. Did the bottom myself, new bottom and ablative coats 300. New bronze through hull for sink drain. About 3250 with boat trailer and all paperwork. Sails nice, but if there is alot of boat wakes or chop it needs a 6hp or higher. If she was on a lake or big pond the 3hp would be plenty
@NearlyNativeNursery3 жыл бұрын
Great intro to cot of learning to sail.Thanks for your taking the time to make and post this info.
@tbsharkeyАй бұрын
That's a pretty great deal. There are mountain bikes that go for more than the all-in cost here.
@traceyhutt12463 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m a woman with a 23ft pocket cruiser but agree with you on the problem of sailor wives (or husbands) not appreciating the costs. But I find it’s the project costs that are part of the buzz - I can’t wait to spend the next $50 on my boat!
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy Sailing!
@ciudadgilera2 жыл бұрын
I bough a 19 ft to learn to sail, I don't have the intention to spend much on it because my aim is to get a bigger boat soon I fill confident on sailing, and like you I shop around because every boat I seen looked like a chickencoops. One thing I want to re rig on this boat is to be able to control all sails from the cockpit so I will invest on hardware for it. Thanks for your post
@AdventuresInParadise2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that on a larger, heavier boat it's not bad going to the mast to raise the main... on the 22 it was too little space to walk and rocked too badly but it's pretty nice on the larger boat. Your new boat will likely already have the jib on a furler
@TOOMENETOYS4 жыл бұрын
We’re in the same boat (pun intended ) that’s about what I have in my 84 minus the propane outboard I bought . I think it’s a good value for the dollar even though they always need something but hey what hobby doesn’t !
@scrumpymanjack10 ай бұрын
Really interesting information. Thanks for sharing. Enjoying your channel immensely - though im not a sailor and dont have a boat (yet!).
@AdventuresInParadise10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.. that's all we used to do, watch it and learn things for about a year until we bought a sailboat.
@scrumpymanjack10 ай бұрын
@@AdventuresInParadise That's my plan, too. But I just moved to Mallorca, and I'm about to start my first sailing lessons at the national sailing school so at least I'm on the right track. Everyone I ever met has told me that buying a boat is buying yourself an endless money pit but, thanks to your and other videos, I realise that it doesn't have to be like that - and that you don't have to be a millionaire to enjoy sailing. Thanks again.
@AdventuresInParadise10 ай бұрын
It helps if you can do some work yourself. Hiring other people would be expensive. @@scrumpymanjack
@davemurphy20203 жыл бұрын
Bought a wrecked Macwester 28 £500 cost 1k t0 move it to my yard about half done spent £1500 so far in 4 months. Great video nice hobby.
@peterprocopio21922 жыл бұрын
great video! thanks for sharing your experience. I am also looking to get into sailing and buy my first sailboat. please keep making videos...
@johnkueny65028 ай бұрын
I've redone 3 sailboats so far. Very gratifyingand fun!
@craigprather58874 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to consider a sailboat, somewhat to sail, mostly to live on. The 22 might be a tad small, but I think I might be able to get by on a 25. You're videos are very informative and I'm sure I'll look like a total clown when I get started sailing. Keep 'em coming!
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
22 will be too small.. like living in a car... thanks!
@jerrythreefeathers72724 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just picked up a McGregor 25 foot. Doesn't need much, I'm starting on it next week. Pretty excited @
@maddogmaz15763 жыл бұрын
I picked up a McGregor 25 also. I have about $1700.00 into it. paid $500. Most expensive part was new rigging and sandblasting the keel. Its going to be a great little boat when its done. I think you will love yours
@Casca-su3ty4 жыл бұрын
wauuu what a video. I just retire was looking for a 36 to 42 footer monohull i have no experience in the water other than my bathtub and rubber duckie, my budget was like 20k but after watching a few of your videos I think I have decided to look for a cheap boat give it love while I learn to enjoy it see if is what I want to do then after a year and go from there! thank you very much for the help
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. You might then find out what you want in a boat.
@Casca-su3ty4 жыл бұрын
@@AdventuresInParadise o my friend decided to follow your advice a catalina 22 like you said easy to learn parts everywhere my budget was high but i think you are very correct ,better learn small. i been watching all the videos but never 1 down to earth ! thank you so much for replying god bless
@terrulian4 жыл бұрын
I bought a C22 for $2,000 in about the same shape. You didn't mention the trailer but ours came with one. Your figures are in line with what we did although bottom paint was additional. We kept the boat 1/2 year on a mooring, which was about $1500 plus a state-required inspection and lease of about $500/year. The other 1/2 year in a slip, for about what you paid. I like working on boats so I can't remember any jobs we had to pay for. Good video and mercifully short!
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I didn't want a boat with a trailer since I'd keep it in the water so specifically looked for one without a trailer.
@territodude2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very helpful, getting ready to purchase one hopefully and this will help to be aware of some things that may be needed, appreciate it.
@geoffkerryrussell47463 жыл бұрын
Great information. I agree that the cost to restore your yacht, However I would double the cost, to get somewhere near the restore/rebuilt boat. In my country(NZ) the cost of parts and equipment would be 50% more. What you end up with is a yacht like yours, having spend $4250 is now Worth ? $3000-$4000
@blancolirio Жыл бұрын
Good job! You came out fine!
@michaeljames32083 жыл бұрын
I love these sailboat, look to acquire one soon
@robertcosimini88833 жыл бұрын
i want one too...the weekends would be so fun
@stephanguitar97783 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. Ive got and had a few trailer sailers and if looking at a boat now I divide the price between sails and rigging, hull and interior, engine, and Trailer. Any one of these could be a complete deal breaker if the cost of replacement repair is nearly as much as the boat is worth. I have had more trouble with trailers than the rest combined, but that's because I don't have a workshop and serious tools for fixing these things.
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. On our four year old power boat, the trailer had issues from the sale water... it doesn't matter than I rinse it with salt away when we're done boating, it sits there in the parking lot all day after being submerged ... I just spent like $800 fixing it up with a new axle, brakes, all new nuts and bolts/rims...all this boating stuff can get expensive. It's annually that I have to replace the jack/wheel and the winch strap.
@FatGuyinaLittleBoat3 жыл бұрын
in a sea of basic boat rehab videos, this is pretty good.
@mansgottaeat88792 жыл бұрын
correction: this is pretty amazing
@7n8th4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video my friend. I envy you for the price you find it . Unfortunately at the other way of the ocean here in Greece the same exact boat has a price tag of more than 7000 euros (almost 8000 dollars) .. We don't have so expensive moorings but every thing else wow... you are on the cheap side of the world. Take care of yourself and your boat my friend.
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
Great comment!, very interesting! There are parts of the USA where sailboats cost much more, but here in Florida there are many. Thank you.
@stevenmoore40782 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am looking for my first boat and wanted a realistic overview of the cost.
@rayscott16532 жыл бұрын
I was like you I looked at a boat but decided not to invest in it until he had to move his 1978 Spirit 23 out of a storage lot and on the weekend before it had to be moved he texted me that if I would haul it off then he would sell me the boat and trailer and boat for $360. I couldn't pass it by so now its my boat. I have re-registered both the trailer and boat, that was $110. In California the trailer are permeant tags so no more fees for it. Boat is $22 per year. I store it at home for free and have started getting it ready to sail. Main item was replacement of the swing keel cable which had rusted shut and broke into. I'm at $1,675 in but I'm ready to take it out and see how she sails. I got two main sails and one Jib with the boat plus he had purchased a new control panel, new teak hand holds and a lot of new LED lights for the interior so I will only need to install those. The windows are tight and do not leak but all the interior needs to be replaced. I have the old foam for patterns if I decide to replace. If I like how it sails then I'll tackle that but not putting anymore money into it until I decide if I want to keep it or sell it.
@AdventuresInParadise2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a win win for you!
@traceyhutt12463 жыл бұрын
I bought a Hood 23 (Australia) for $2000. Then added rudder bearings, new swing keel, new skin fittings, new head, new main, new head sail and furler, new rigging, lines, deck line organisers, mooring lines, anchor chain and line, shackles, wind indicator, speed n depth thing, safety gear, petrol tanks, outboard service, antifoul, hatch sliders, radio, tools, nav lights. I can’t sit at my kitchen table anymore as it’s covered in tools n projects. It’s definitely my drug 😊
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying this is you, but some people do more fixing than they do sailing. :-)
@traceyhutt12463 жыл бұрын
Yes I do do more fixing. It’s a big part of what I love about it.
@vladimirvalenwood33343 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for the actual numbers.
@dianalynn3600 Жыл бұрын
This sailor is a wife, her husband is not allowed to watch!
@danielestrada785214 күн бұрын
😂
@obiwanfisher5373 жыл бұрын
My first boat was a piece of junk, cost me 300 quid. I put a battery in there, I rewired everything, I bought new position lights and anchor lights, I needed new interior lights, I needed to redo the cushions, I dropped 1 turnbuckle into the water which lead to me replacing the entire shroud, the boat was UV damaged so I needed an entire new coat of paint, sail cover, sail ties, halyard wrap preventer for the jib, new faucet, tubes, needed to reinforce the transom bracket for the outboard, used outboard, interior paint as well, some wood fixing. All in all probably 2500 plus the boat cost. Major loss for me but it was my first and I had to start somewhere. There was a bit more to do so I sold it on and got my second boat, my current boat. This one is sailable atleast. I got it for 1300 on an auction. It has a working inboard although it needs servicing. I invested 130 quid in that already, I need new halyards (longer, to lead them back to the cockpit) which also requires halyard blocks, lead blocks, cleats, halyard bag, Im gonna install a lazy jack system so altogether another 600 quid. Biggest investment will be the new headlining, Im not sure if I will do that myself. Especially my front cabin is very difficult, and I have never done anything like this before. And I do not have the old headlining for there. The salon needs new headlining aswell, but I do have the old headlining and can just copy it. Although I might not even use headlining, I might use cladding. Getting someone to do it would cost me like 1500 quid plus materials. Lets say 1750. And thats it so far. But its a boat, Im sure I will find more things to do. Plus all the small things that are tiny 10 quid jobs etc. Lets say another 200 for those all in all. 1300+130+600+1750+200=3980. I also need to install Wind generators and Solar panels. 120 for the charge controller, 2 solar panels at 100 quid each, wind generator 150 and charge controller for that 30. So all in all approximately 4480 quid.
@obiwanfisher5373 жыл бұрын
Its all little stuff that add up over time. But when I got the boat she was sailable. Most of these things are just personal preference and looks. The engine generally works, the sails are good as well, electricity is given as well, the inboard has an alternator.
@stillwatersailor6652 жыл бұрын
I bet you sold it for more than 4,225. You got a great deal on the original purchase. Great info.
@stocksj3 жыл бұрын
I started with a Catalina 22 21 years ago and moved up to a Cat27, Cat30 and then a Westsail 32. I should have stopped with the C27.
@brassrainbow55683 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 76 CAT 27’. I’m in love with it. I haven’t sailed it yet as ai need to learn to, but I am eager and excited to this spring. Was glad to see your comment. Makes me feel I made a good decision. Mine is in terrific shape. Tons of restoration and upgrades done before I bought it. Needs nothing!
@howardrich93554 жыл бұрын
Working on a Bombay Clipper 31'. Paid $1k for the boat. Running Yanmar diesel. Replaced running rigging, scrubbed the boat with Awsome from Dollar Store. Used dinghy davits. The insurance survey values the boat at $12k. I have six thousand into it. Been buying and selling cruising sailboats since 1971. Now, fixing up old cruising sailboats is my diet plan.
@Mykol2254 жыл бұрын
Well you peaked my interest. How do you go about buying and selling cruising sailboats? What kind of income were you able to get form doing that?
@howardrich93554 жыл бұрын
@@Mykol225 HI Mike! I study Craig's List almost daily. I keep a lot of cash handy. Certain boat manufactures you stay away from, (mc gregor, bayliner) and some are the ones in demand. Also there are several people that do the same thing. So it's the first guy with cash that wins. A few months ago I bought a 1976 Morgan out island 41 for $3k. Another guy offered 10k. But I was standing there with the cash. There are a lot of drunks, drug people and people that just can't talk without living all trying for easy money. It is not easy! I had taken 24 yard cleanup trash bags, 6 dozen Terry cloth towels and two gallons of Awsome cleaner to just clean that out island 41. I wait for sales on rope for running rigging or Amazon. Bur right now days things are spookie! This presidential election might change everything. We will be pulling up anchor if the communist win.
@KenDavies-qv3fs2 жыл бұрын
If you look after and maintain it, she is good for many years. Look at 'Uma"
@dmc89213 жыл бұрын
My Macgregor looked like the one at 1:11 full of water. I brought it down to a bare hull and polished / replaced / rewired everything. Boat was listed for $1000 I paid $500. I had to re-core the entire top deck. The education is worth whatever I have into it . Maybe $3500. Its a nicer boat inside than any MacGregors I have seen. I will never buy a project boat ever again. I thought I would fix it in 6 months. Took 3 years for me to finish and its never over.
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think the only boat that isn't a project boat is a brand new boat.
@davidrockefeller20073 жыл бұрын
No sailors wife’s are allowed to watch lmfao. So true, my wife will let me buy a boat one day but if she really knew the cost, I would be getting a model boat.
@AdventuresInParadise3 жыл бұрын
LOL... Susy bought me a model sailboat boat as a joke when I wanted a sailboat. It's the little wooden boat in some of my videos.
@shelleystclair73233 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a hershoff 28 it's the last real original boat regs with there museum I love my lil gem of a boat found it for cheap but got a real big surprise when the servay came back that she was perfect and needed nothing but any thing I wanted to upgrade the replacement cost came back at a hugh cost of at least 850 thousand dollars I almost passed out I only payed 6 thousand for her and delivery was included happy sails and fair wind to u all
@leegoodman85533 жыл бұрын
wow, you got a great deal. Great video
@MR-yp7mu2 жыл бұрын
I did the opposite and moved the halyards from the cockpit to the mast. Simplicity.
@trevorbyron81814 жыл бұрын
Boat's themselves are affordable. It's the insurance, Marina fees (berthing or mooring fees) that takes up a high cost.
@thedrummersclub36673 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Any specific suggestions how you bypass your list of unnecessary expenses? Thank you
@karlhansen29583 жыл бұрын
I wish we had this prices in my country
@patrickgagne8795Ай бұрын
I bought a small sailboat to learn. Spent $1200 to buy it and put 3-$400 and 20 hrs of my time. Watched every KZfaq video that I could before going on. Finally the day came where I could sail it. Wind was 15-18knots and gusty..perfect. Wow what an absolute shitshow. Went out with an experienced sailor and got up to 6-8knots of speed and he said that we’re “cooking”. That’s like a brisk walking speed..I know own a beach catamaran haha
@markanthony53122 жыл бұрын
Boss, you did good damn good, nice boat I don't know about 22 foot but still a nice boat
@teeheeteeheeish5 ай бұрын
Important point... you don't have to do all this at once. And many of these are luxury items and not necessary. Catalinas are a bulletproof bet if you're just getting into sailing. Just buy the boat and go sailing. I'm sure that main sail had at least one more season in it. But this guy felt the need to replace it for $500, which is fine!
@AdventuresInParadise5 ай бұрын
It was an old sail and very floppy with terrible performance and ballooning. I only paid $1,500 for the boat and it was in pretty bad condition. It needed a bottom job too.. which was probably way more performance than a new sail offered!
@Panotaker4 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 2012 Hobie adventure Island for $2000. It's basically a trimaran kayak sailboat made out of hard plastic. I sailed it twice without spending a nickel. The third time I bought a spare rudder pin for $6, and a couple of spare aka pins for $2.00. There is really nothing else on it that will break. I keep it in my garage, and I take it to the lake in the back of my pickup truck. It's a cheap, low maintenance way to get into sailing.
@AdventuresInParadise4 жыл бұрын
We looked at these for a while recently and wondered if we might enjoy it more. They are pricey but we watched all the videos on youtube and they look really great!
@Panotaker4 жыл бұрын
@@AdventuresInParadise I looked at the Catelina 22 also. The main reasons I didn't get one is because I have no place to keep it. I live in a subdivision, so I would either have to keep it in a marina, or I would have to keep it in a storage lot, and both of those cost money. Plus if I trailer it, it takes time to set it up, which I think it will get old pretty quick. If I keep it on a marina, I think I would get tired of sailing the same lake all the time. The Hobie fits in my garage. I just got a trailer, so it is setup and ready to go when I get to the lake, and I take it to different lakes. There is virtually no maintenance on it. Im only a day sailor, so I don't really need the room of a big sailboat. Also with the Hobie, I can pedal it if there is no wind or when tacking. I still might get a Catalina one of these days, just because you stay dry and can sail it in cooler weather. The Hobie is a wet ride. So basically, you need both of them.
@christofferryder76122 жыл бұрын
bought an Ockelbo os19 for 200 dollar (roughly i paid in swedish kronas. and so far has a list for 500 dollars for different stuff mostly having to do with the electricity wich needs renovating and now thinking about getting new cusions
@LuciferBrasso-qi3qy Жыл бұрын
Super cool. Informative.
@michaeljames32083 жыл бұрын
I love this model boat and looking on buying one before year end and after i learn how to sail