Fake Seikos in China...how to know the real deal? May 24 2019
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@TheBibi31 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Seiko 5 here in China. It looked super real and felt like good quality. After a month of use I checked the writings on the watch with a macro lense. I noticed a typo on the word "crystal". Then noticed that the front and back of the watch indicated different informations. Your video finished to convinced me that my watch was fake when I checked the "warranty". I paid over a hundred dollars for it and didn't suspect a thing as it was my first watch...
@Lakshmishree-Rishita2748 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
@tomc.28083 жыл бұрын
My original Breitling watch broke, and I bought chinese Seiko couple years ago, and it works and looks better than my previous watch...
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@AA-yh4ws3 жыл бұрын
@@zaidenmayson879 wtf
@Josh-wp5tm2 жыл бұрын
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@saleemsuliman30622 жыл бұрын
It isnt bad to use Chinese products pocket friendly and has the same features
@yudhobaskoro80332 жыл бұрын
Most of the time, the quality of the material used in the fake movement is not that bad, and most of the time the actual design of the movement is the one to blame if the movement broke so as long as those movement is "well-engineered" any "manufacturer" can make it with roughly the same features and tolerances and have it working as well as the original movement
@Hipnosis65 Жыл бұрын
My wife paid 60 bucks for a Seiko Frankenwatch with a 6349 movement. It has a real nice textured green dial, high polished bezel and dive watch hands. I love the thing and wear it all the time.
@travis3430Ай бұрын
That watch is probably worth the 160 you paid. Good finishing & probably an reliable Seiko made movement in there. Id say you've landed on your feet there.
@georgelalama81544 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that another give away is that the dial in Seiko watches are very bright after passing them through a light. Seikos are known for their watch illumination which is one of if not the best in the world when it comes to their "lume".
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
There is a chance that the calibre (movement) is still SEIKO as SEIKO sells generic versions of their calibres such as the NH35A (an unbranded version of Seiko's 4R35 calibre) to other manufacturers and watchmakers in general. Usually the weight is painted yellow to show that it is the unbranded Seiko movement. Technically, the unbranded movement is a slightly improved and updated version of the Seiko calibre it is based on. Sure there are the Chinese Seagull movements and the Japanese Miyota movements that are also popular with replica manufacturers but the price of the Seiko unbranded movements is comparable. The issue with the fakes is that they have little interest in quality control overall, not in the quality of the mechanisms as those are often just purchased from Seiko, Miyota or Seagull.
@pokie6087 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. We don't get to see the watch closely but the open heart layout suggests this movement is a Seiko 4R38 which they sell to 3rd party manufacturers as the NH38. Plenty of micro brand makers use this movement. I have an Accurist that has it. Also noteworthy is the milled clasp as opposed to the cheap pressed item Seiko use. All in all, putting aside that it's fake. For the money it looks pretty good
@louTube9204 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. I purchased a fake Seiko watch also, but I knew before buying it from Wish that it was fake. It was only $27.00, so I knew it was too good to be true. But it's a good imitation, so I am happy with it.
@dokomir4 жыл бұрын
That's even worse...
@razer6909 Жыл бұрын
i can't stand fake stuff even if it builds good
@SAREL1963 Жыл бұрын
That Seiko will last just as long as the Original and Service is very cheap.NH35A replace cost only $30
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
I am going to update the situation...I know a lot more about the watch now...it is definitely not a genuine Seiko...the movement is NH35A...but the crown appears to be a base metal, not stainless steel...it changed color after 3-4 months. I suspect that the movement is likely a chinese copy of the NH35A...The real Premier by Seiko was only produced in a real stainless steel case, and sold for about 6-700$. I will present my findings online soon.
@TheWatcherMax5 ай бұрын
The movement actually installed is a NH39A. No reason to fake this in a cheap watch since you can find those movement as a consumer directly for about €25. I have the same NH39A in a Pagani Design watch. Also the case and crown etc might be fakes but that doesn't mean the movement is fake. When you get these movements separately they come with a plastic crown and usually an extra stem with threads on, that you cut to length and screw the crown onto.
@fulltechahead4 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: due to further questions, I conducted more research. The watch I received claims to be the Seiko Premier Automatic SSA213J1 with Seiko 4R39A movement. I have searched extensively online for the specifications of this model..the closest I could come was an apparent advert from China wanting over 7000$ for the watch...if you are interested, you can view here: shopee.tw/%E3%80%90%E8%8A%B3%E5%85%92%E3%80%91SEIKO%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E7%B2%BE%E5%B7%A5-Premier%E7%B3%BB%E5%88%97%E7%94%B7%E5%A3%AB%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E9%8F%A4%E7%A9%BA%E6%A9%9F%E6%A2%B0%E8%A1%A8%E9%8B%BC%E5%B8%B6%E6%89%8B%E8%A1%A8SSA213J1-i.143293980.2340024295 I have a new video update on this watch, and also a new one on the real Seiko movement Pagani Design 75$ usd divers watch..which is a Chinese made watch with real sapphire and genuine Seiko movement..hope you watch
@@markkuvaara3512 yes, it is...I have a follow up video coming out soon.
@fulltechahead4 жыл бұрын
@@markkuvaara3512 the real Seiko SSA216J1 is about 668$ usd...about 947$ cnd.
@brianfuller76913 жыл бұрын
Having recently received a rather bad quality fake Seiko SKX, this is really a better quality fake. Great video
@khatalelltv14292 ай бұрын
thank you very much sir for this information .. i am this very close to ordering a seiko 5 in pindudu and taobao .. but just like you said the price is too good to be true ... i have a bit of an affordable collection of watches now ( casio and timex watches ) and i was hoping to upgrade myself into a 200-300 usd range of watches like seikos , orient . tissot ... this fake seiko it may look good and cheap but i wont feel great knowing that i am wearing a fake , its like i am deceiving others specially myself ... its the feeling the watch gave me that i started collecting in the first place .
@daver200079 ай бұрын
Bet it was a seiko movement, and still runs
@RuffKutz5 ай бұрын
what movement is it using? if its the NH35 then its be ok.
@elmoesteban9531 Жыл бұрын
not fake
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
really? care to support your claim?
@Savitashri-Maitri725098 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
@KFlexFantastic2 жыл бұрын
People are actively looking to purchase fake seiko to flex it like people do with fake Rolex. It’s crazy
@danpost1811 ай бұрын
I bought my sieko at Dillard's and the packaging you got was a lot nicer than mine. Mine has 4 R 36 on front and back. So maybe mine is the real deal. I hope.
@franciscomarin64934 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the video. You should have known. "Too good to be true".
@--RSL--8 ай бұрын
Say it with me…. Homage. It’s an homage. Oh my bad… your vid came up when i was looking for heimdallr monsters. Yes, you got faked. Just buy a heimdallr.
@fulltechahead8 ай бұрын
got one...good watch
@ArkRockDrm4 ай бұрын
I'm using a San Martin Tuna made in china for 6yrs now. Glass is better and have Sapphire, bezel insert is ceramic.
@valerioazcona66 Жыл бұрын
With $160.00 go to the store get one with all warranty it is a real one not being scare if a fake watch stop all trouble.
@andreykrasehin28232 жыл бұрын
Ты десятки раз повторил что это подделка, но не привёл никаких доказательств плохого качества часов! А зачем переплачивать, китайцы делают копии частенько на тех же заводах!!!
@ChromeMan042 жыл бұрын
Fake watches should be BANNED. I hate fakers imitating respectful brands.
@NoBody-ju4hx4 жыл бұрын
The red line on the protection sticker on the back doesn't indicate it's fake.
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
on Seiko's it does...many watches produced in China have the clear plastic with the red line, but Seiko uses a a light blue plastic film on the back
@limjohnjohn5851 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Seiko products are made in China and u will see its tag at the back plate indicated where it came from.
@kevinmontoya73182 жыл бұрын
That thing sounds so clanky, my seiko doesn't do that.
@Hemangi-Ananta53198 ай бұрын
A guy from Rolex stole their database and is now selling his own mega clone watches called Ziarex. This story is crazy. We need to ban this idiot.
@dave.t81412 жыл бұрын
so if you were given the watch without all the packaging how would you determine that it's fake ?
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
At first glance, it is hard to tell...like many fakes today. However, it didn't take long for the quality issues to show. I have another video to show how this fake Seiko looked and worked like only a year later...it was not a pretty sight.
@jesper14063 жыл бұрын
My daily genuine Seiko 5 needs repair and cleaning, and I missed it on my wrist. Ordered a fake padi diver for US 5$. I prefer the fake one now, and just order a variety of them. When they break, they go right in the bin...
@smoothswaggaa3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one of those $5 Seikos. Thank you.
Lol the font at 4:40 looks completely fucked, the bag has a more legit looking Seiko font.
@Vipula-Kripa7228 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and their mega clone watches. Dealers are selling them as originals, and we are losing a lot.
@DarthPlaya Жыл бұрын
One correction: The red lined plastic cover on the watches caseback is *NOT* a sign of fakery. A large number of companies (in all price ranges) use those stickers. I still find it hard to believe replicators would put so much effort into copying such low priced watches. If you're going to take the time and effort to make a convicing fake Seiko, why not fake a Grand Seiko or some other higher cost model. It's like a counterfeiter making single dollars instead of $100 dollar bills!
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
indeed...but I think the turnover is faster on lower priced pieces, and people suspect expensive brands may be fake, and exercise more caution when buying.
@DarthPlaya Жыл бұрын
@@fulltechahead People suspecting and exercising more caution is a valid point, but counterfeiters feed on the knowledge that their are always going to be the not so diligent buyers to prey on. The economics of counterfeiting 101 shows that copying single dollars is just as expensive as copying $100 bills (not to mention that jail time is the same if your caught faking $1 or $100) The higher profit margins on the more expensive pieces will usually outweigh any amount of money made by the faster turnover of lower priced copies.
@gtracer6629 Жыл бұрын
They do make a Grand Seiko fake and it's cost about $30. It looks pretty good for the money.
@e28forever307 ай бұрын
Even the cheapest Casio watches are being faked.
@alexknezevic83272 жыл бұрын
Are all Seiko watches without international warranty fake? In other words, do Seiko watches have to come with international warranty?
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
I would not say 'all' of them do, but the Premier and other reasonably expensive models do. Mine came with a fake certificate, so obviously the fakers knew the real model was issued with an international guarantee. Some non-authorized sites sell counterfeit or second-hand watches, or watches that have been tampered with, and are, therefore, not eligible for care under the Seiko warranty. Others do not offer the original Seiko international warranty, nor do they offer any after-sales service of any kind. Usually their guarantee is transferrable to, from one state/country to another. So, it is important to buy a Seiko from an authorized Seiko dealer, especially if it's a high priced model.
@kevinmontoya73182 жыл бұрын
I don't like bulova, I don't like that you pair them up in the same group as Tissot or other lifeless brands such as bulova etc. Seiko is its own market, with prices ranging from 200 all the way up to around 10k.
@Emconstante_ev2 жыл бұрын
Qual site acha seiko premium AAA!?
@mikelrebollo142511 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the watch? Thanks
@fulltechahead11 ай бұрын
bought it on Taobao in China...
@CoDnChill2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you are getting a Seiko for 800 RMB says it is a fake haha. Chinese market is loaded with counterfeits
@CoDnChill Жыл бұрын
Buying anything in china is a headache unless you go to a certified retailer. I bought an orient from Jing Dong, after receiving the product I have searched online everywhere for 3 days without any satisfying result, Eventually I gave up lol
@vickperry39404 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine once brought me a Franck Muller from China... He paid 50$ for the watch...It is the highest quality replica he could find, even the dial is made of mother of pearl, beautifully engraved case back, fully functional chrono, crazy accuracy to details and so on.... Anyway that was 15 years ago, and the watch still ticking just like when it was new.... Lol fake or not, for the price of these it's not a bad deal. I mean again it was 50$ lmao
@fulltechahead4 жыл бұрын
there is a difference between a good copy and an outright fake....I will explain later
@Utpala-Vinanti8808 ай бұрын
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
@e28forever307 ай бұрын
Bullcrap
@metallion07382 жыл бұрын
I have a fake Seiko or counterfeit Seiko watch that I purchased at Wish, I only pay $22 dollars for it, the original costs $600 so for only $22 dollars for the Seiko X divers 200 m, I'm getting a deal and people can't tell the difference if you are wearing it.
@e28forever307 ай бұрын
Yeah sure.
@thebreadwentstale4 жыл бұрын
Price = FAKE
@louisdalessandro24952 жыл бұрын
Stop going over and over packaging,,get to watch
@sarachitamang68402 жыл бұрын
How much price
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
around 750 chinese yuan
@flhong10 ай бұрын
Those can't afford they goes for fake watch & those are greedy for cheap low-price desire it. Don't complaint!
@CyberRabid.2 жыл бұрын
What caliber is the movement?
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
supposed to be a NH35...but I think it's a poor copy of a NH35
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
also, the crown was/is not even stainless steel..it is some kind of cheap base metal that tarnished already
@tankltan56442 жыл бұрын
I accidentally bought a faith seiko 5 Cheap watches also wan to cheat 😓 Since they able to made the fake one , don’t know why they don’t trying to create their own brand….😩
@lavejr3 жыл бұрын
How much you paid?
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
888rmb
@andreg.r.wuicik5843 жыл бұрын
I have one like it. Is it durable? What can we say about the caliber? Is it durable or disposable? I didn't understand the video because my English is bad, I'm from another country. Thanks.
@williamdorsey9044 жыл бұрын
If asian man make a shoe for nike it real. If the same asia man makes the same shoe and sell it in his country then it's fake? Why is that?
@fulltechahead4 жыл бұрын
Companies do have production facilities in China, and 'asians' work in them..but the product quality is guaranteed by the real company. So, I was not saying anything about 'asian' men..I was showing that there is a fake product being manufactured, which is illegal, and deceptive. Also, typically the fake goods are not the 'same' as the genuine ones, and offer no warranty..they often use substandard components, when people are paying for high quality ones. That is just not right. That illegal market seems predominantly a Chinese phenomena...but undoubtedly in other nations too...the point of the video was to warn people of fake goods, not to criticize Asians..I live in China, and have many good friends here..and in South Korea...
@dandc20112 жыл бұрын
Lolol of all the watches he saw, a Seiko *premier* is the one that stood out to you...? Gross
@patrickhayes74074 жыл бұрын
Really,... Not a bad forgery. I have seen much worse. I bought 10 of the "Seiko"
@bodegaboylex2 жыл бұрын
Hamilton’s are nice
@hvacae69042 жыл бұрын
Nice video but your video is not clear showing the detail
@cmclo180911 ай бұрын
y
@sBIGGIEn3 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy it from? Would love to do a review on one of these, I’m in Canada as well
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
bought it on the chinese site Taobao..
@lavejr3 жыл бұрын
@@fulltechahead how much you paid?
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
@@lavejr 888 rmb
@lavejr3 жыл бұрын
@@fulltechahead link please
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
@@lavejr I bought it on Taobao (the chinese amazon)...I will post the Tabbao page to you after I get home tonight.
@jeffreyalbarandorivera85954 жыл бұрын
So what is the caliber movement for that seiko ?. Is that a 7s26 Nh36 4r36 4r35?..So what's the problem for that?.The only problem for that seiko watch is that you discover that a citizen movement is inside.
@fulltechahead4 жыл бұрын
it's says it's a Seiko Seiko ssa213j1, but that cannot be true...Seiko only made that model in silver casing, not gold...
@jeffreyalbarandorivera85954 жыл бұрын
The Deboxifier: Tech and Cryptos China so that would be like a modification watch.
@fulltechahead3 жыл бұрын
4r35
@iceshakle2 жыл бұрын
It's a fake so why be so surprised?
@louisdalessandro24952 жыл бұрын
Let's see watch ,punter
@imeeatchicoso84645 жыл бұрын
Yes... a lot of fake stuffs in China . 👍😀
@tonytobit14465 жыл бұрын
Lovely lady
@dkev0014 жыл бұрын
I bought a fake Citizen diver from them. Says eco-drive. Clearly not. Couple things lead me to believe that its an invicta quartz diver in Citizen clothing. But I only payed $20 for it. So I may get a year out of it...if I don't get it wet. lol.
@markwarnberg95043 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of a watch?....TO KEEP TIME!! so you buy a time piece for $100 that keeps good time and has a name that may impress others. Who cares who made it as long as it works and you like the looks..... and should you get muged then your only out a hundred bucks instead of $800.
@justmeeagainn2 жыл бұрын
Not the point. People should get what they pay for. If he wanted a Seiko, he should have received one, not a Fake-O.
@Faz13able3 жыл бұрын
For a fake watch the packaging was good. Have to say it.
@gcf71754 жыл бұрын
Dude, that watch isn't even fake.
@sai-jz6hb4 жыл бұрын
I do research this watch and it's original btw
@ChromeMan042 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@_DonJoe_4 жыл бұрын
Bad cams focus. Your cams too fake
@samuelemmanuel34002 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@csteviec2 жыл бұрын
Feiko
@Isabel-Vritti874818 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
@Lilavati-Sejal6138 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
@Manjushri-Shrikumari037328 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.