I bought the new Redcat RDS so YOU don't have to. (Best RTR RC Drift car?)

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The new Redcat RDS is the latest 2wd RC Drift car making a buzz in the Radio Control community, but at $400, is it worth it? Int his episode of 10th Scale Garage, we will unbox it, give it a bull review, compare it to a MST RMX 2.0 and finally take it for a rip. We'll see if it really is one of the best RTR RC drift cars of 2023. At $400 its definitely not one of the cheapest RC drift cars, but if it's good for beginners, it might be one of the best RTR drifters on the market. With a brushless motor, drift spec servo and Gyro and insane steering angle ready to go out of the box, it promises to be a great value. but is it better than the MST RMX? MST has recently lowered their price to compete with Redcat and they are both trying to be the best RTR drift rc car on the scene. So naturally I bought one so you don't have to, and were going to find out together.
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Unboxing
2:14 First impressions
6:23 MST RMX comparison
9:04 Drifting
11:02 Review

Пікірлер: 110

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

What body would you like to see us put on this thing?

@slottygw2wvw842 6 ай бұрын

What i want is you guys to destroy the stock one. Its atrocious. Good grief i would of rather them have it sold as a slider ARR without body than this thing :(

@Serial_Enthusiast Жыл бұрын

@10thscalegarage Something that I noticed when I bought mine: the gyro has two modes. Mine came in AVCS mode and it was awful, switched it to normal mode and it was GREAT! Totally changed the car. I swapped all my good electronics over from my RMX and the redcat is my new favorite drifter. The gyro and servo are MUCH better on the RDS imo. The stock ESC and motor are basically identical from what I saw, except the RDS comes with a 26T pinion vs the RMX comes with a 22. That extra wheel speed is needed on my local track for the long sweeping turns, and the RDS cleaned house compared to the RMX out of the box. You have to spend more money on the RMX just to have adjustable camber. RDS all the way. My local drift guru tossed it around right out of the box and gave it two thumbs up, everyone was pretty impressed with it.

@J33P4D00R Жыл бұрын

I always look forward to y'alls videos. Glad to see them coming out more regularly. Keep choppin them recats!

@BangForYourBuckRc Жыл бұрын

I know it’s all personal preference, but the body doesn’t look that bad to me, with the exception of those weird window pillars. It looked to me like it was hanging with the mst. Over all I like it and seems like a great way to start. Yes modify! Grand ntnl Body! Great video brothers! Take care!👊🏼👍🏻😃

@toolbaggers Жыл бұрын

You can easily adjust an open diff to locked or in between but you can't do anything to a spool.

@toolbaggers Жыл бұрын

Let's see you max it out and tune it to perform the best and then recompare

@rcmakingtracks18 Жыл бұрын

Great job guys, it's been a while... good to see you drop a vid... john

@bobbylefebvre6298 Жыл бұрын

Always great information

@rcuintheshed6981 10 ай бұрын

Thank you boys I'm totally new to drifting buying my first legit drift car you two totally helped decide where my money is best spent 👊

@10thScaleGarage 10 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

@bobbylefebvre6298 Жыл бұрын

Enjoy the weekend really nice set up i like the color

@OMGRC Жыл бұрын

I think you should try and tune it first. The body 🤢 not a fan and wheels if needed. Maybe you can try and calibrate ESC with radio. 👍

@geryang450 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video of the recat rc car.

@Lee.gRC27 Жыл бұрын

I've only just convinced myself to even get a rwd drifter and after a lot of mental battles with myself decided on the mst and now you throw this in the mix 🤣🤣 I'm the most indecisive at the best of times and now this, Mst looking my favourite

@jeffbeckmann7767 Жыл бұрын

I just bought one today. I’m not crazy about the body, but I don’t hate it. The window pillars are weird to me. Dude at the hobby shop hooked me up by tuning it and adjusting stuff. I’m new to drifting so I had no clue. I do think it’s needs different tires as well. After drifting for about a hour or so I have to say it’s a pretty good car. It made me smile and laugh so to me it was worth it.

@storyracing387 Жыл бұрын

I dig the honesty. As I own two MST chassis, I was scratching my head when I saw Redcat drop this. As for the body, I too, am not a big fan of. I would like to see a custom truck body. Maybe a Nissan Hardbody (I believe Super G has one on their site) something like that. 👍

@itzzgraham Жыл бұрын

You can change the motor mount I heard for different terrains

@rcloner1895 Жыл бұрын

The open diff has thick fluid in it which simulated a limited slip diff(100$ upgrade on RMX 2.0). The point of having everything high center of gravity is to get the car to roll into grip, I have my RMX set up the exact same way. The toe out in the front and toe in in the rear is normal and is on the RMX from factory. The Redcat RDS was designed by Shane from Tandem RC, which now works at Redcat. I love your channel, but this one was a huge miss for me. Do some research first next time. Please, opinions are fine but miss information is another thing.

@rcloner1895 Жыл бұрын

Also your steering issue is your endpoints on your gyro not set correctly. Watch scale science’s video and educate

@DJ.1001 Жыл бұрын

They were wrong on so many points in this video. I don't think the RDS is all that great but this video was a total disservice.

@rcloner1895 Жыл бұрын

@@DJ.1001 I have one and they’re a solid kit tbh. But the amount of wrong information about rc drift cars in general made me cringe a bit.

@mgscheue 9 ай бұрын

Yes. Negativity even before they opened the box. An oddly strong bias, and the video would have benefitted from more research.

@DJ.1001 Жыл бұрын

Pretty much all of your complaints came from a position of lacking knowledge and experience. The gyro needed to be configured for endpoints, that would have cleared up all of your concerns over the steering speed. The alignment seems pretty typical for how guys are setting up their cars these days. The diff is not open either. It is a sealed gear diff with a light oil. Again, the light diff oil is typical for setups these days.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

The gain knob on the gyro essentially does the same thing as the steering exponential knob on the transmitter. It doesn’t change the end points. There is no “configuration” to be done on the gyro, other than setting it up for steering reverse, and adjusting the gain. While a few degrees of toe out is typical in a drift setup (see the toe out on the MST) the toe out is excessive on the RDS, as if to make up for the ackerman adjustment. The diff IS open. I can’t name another RWD drift chassis, rtr or otherwise that has an open diff. Maybe there is, but none that I have ever seen. RER15036 is the part number for the diff. If look it up, you can clearly see the spider gears. The weight of diff oil has nothing to do with the diff being open or not.

@DJ.1001 Жыл бұрын

@@10thScaleGarage you have to program the endpoints in the gyro. Redcat put out a 3 minute video on the setup process on their Redcat Racing page when the car came out. It's also in the manual.

@HBFBajaRacer Жыл бұрын

@@10thScaleGarage I understand you guys are new to drifting and don't have much experience with it, so just trying to educate you guys, this is all in the manual. The gyro has end point adjustment using the end point button on it. When you get it into endpoint setting mode, you can adjust your angle with the dual rate knob on the controller. The dial controls the gain, which is how much it will countersteer depending on what angle that you're at. The gyro has both a normal and AVCS mode, depending on how you want it to countersteer. A spool/locked diff is extremely slow compared to an open diff in RC drifting, and literally any chassis that isn't the MST RMX RTR has an open diff. The diff is specific to this car and not borrowed from another model.

@overbuiltautomotive1299 Жыл бұрын

guys good stuff the gryo with 3 setting if they both are basicly the same the redcat with knob would technically have more user adjustable band with due to its a knob not limited the 3 settings ..I my self like a knob vs 3 position switch you know if all eLkS being the same .RDS is way nicer over all to me the cat cat is a 80 buck-aroo car max but ill bet its more lol

@NathanStorer-RC Жыл бұрын

So, to the point of open diffs... I just built the Yokomo SD 1.0 and that comes with open diffs, but very thick diff oil. Given what I've seen here though, I would definitely buy the kit and put in my own electronics if I was to buy one at all.

@jeremymiller2340 Жыл бұрын

Impressive isn't it! I was sceptical but after a bit it's an awsome platform, many possibilities in her!!!

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Yup! Ordered some mods for it already.

@stevemoon2136 Жыл бұрын

But all the other channels that got a free one said it was amazing. I don't understand....

@bobzilla9p0 Жыл бұрын

The motor has 3 mounting positions. You can put it down on the chassis if that is preferred for LCG and weight transfer.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Might have to do it to clear the new body.

@bobbylefebvre6298 Жыл бұрын

Good afternoon brother cool video nice review

@daniel417rcmaniac8 Жыл бұрын

Max it out and re comp air them and I think you should put a truck body on it cause not many people do that

@NFEzantiszar Жыл бұрын

Locked spools are meh Im a Ball diff user or gear diff And if you can throw it C-LSD is straight 🔥🔥 almost everything but a mst rtr 2.0, grk evo2, overdose galm and reve d rdx. Comes with either a Ball diff or a Gear Diff. As for the car I bought one changed gyro and radio and ran it. Keeps up with my sons yokomo YD2rx like no issue. Even ran it along side my GRK again no issue staying with or following. So 🤷‍♂️ also it has aluminum shocks with nice 6 hole pistons vs shitty plastic shocks that other basic drift cars include. They did their research good and its been proven in other vids 👀

@GeorgeMartin-bk5sp 2 ай бұрын

Just saying but "open diff" isn't a bad thing alot of drift cars I.e yokomo mst etc come with a "open diff" either geard or ball diff even my £750 chassis only md1.0 come with a open diff

@user-hy9nf1db9b 7 ай бұрын

You want an open diff for drifting you get more control.

@roxypda Жыл бұрын

Great video, but I think you missed a bunch of the adjustability on the Redcat. Motor position is adjustable and I am sure that makes a lot of handling changes, and Redcat says you can add thicker diff oils to the diff. The body is a bit hideous. And there is the Builders kit now which is just the chassis and can skip that hideous body. Also, the "entry" level Redcat drift cars are $180 Lightning EXP Drift and the Thunder Drift, just sayin'....

@sscobrapride Жыл бұрын

Entry level drift cars like the lightning are awd and dont actually drift. You can change the motor position on just about any of the drift chassis out if the box, and its $14 motor mount if not. You can change shock oil in any of the cheap kits too. There are better RTR for the $, MST and Yokomo, or you can build a D5 MR if your trying to go cheap for a kit. but a $300 rds builder kit is a total waste of time and money when you can get quality for less in an RDX, yd-2, RMX, or D5 MR

@roxypda Жыл бұрын

@@sscobrapride $240 builders kit, btw.

@toddleavitt3366 Жыл бұрын

The music is over powering your talking about the car

@jkobquick Жыл бұрын

Yall hating bad ( up to 5:28) like you realize very few people run locked diffs the rear toe is completely appropriate for gaining rear traction and the toe out in the front is to help initiate turns quicker. Will probably be commenting again cause yall itching my ass

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

To each their own. I should’ve measured the toe. It’s excessive. I Personally don’t know anyone (or any other RWD drift chassis) that have an open diff.

@getshifty4882 Жыл бұрын

@@10thScaleGarage Literally every RWD that's not an MST RTR uses an open diff. Locked diffs are really only good if you're bashing outside. Open diffs get you way more speed and controllability on track.

@bobbylefebvre6298 Жыл бұрын

That's looks fun

@geodude3966 Жыл бұрын

It's been a while since you've reviewed a basher, are you going to make another bashing video? There were tons of new releases in 2022, we got the Traxxas XRT, Sledge, Maxx v2. And Arrma released the Kraton/Outcast 4S v2s, Fireteam, and the new 1/8 Infraction BLX.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Yes. It’s been teased in a couple videos. You can actually spot it in this video.

@HiddenMotorsports Жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@stanworth100 Жыл бұрын

The mst is adjustable it uses spacers to adjust the camber but it's easier to just buy the turnbuckle kit from yh racing

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Anything is adjustable with enough modification!

@geryang450 Жыл бұрын

I bought the mst one and it's really awesome.

@gregorholmes1837 Жыл бұрын

Atleast the body isnt the over used dodge powerwagon. I like the game where you try n guess what parts of a body come from what car

@toolbaggers Жыл бұрын

Music is much louder than voices.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

If it’s too loud, you’re too old.

@angrymelon Жыл бұрын

PT Cruiser body with wood paneling!

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Ha! I wonder if I can find one.

@randaddy2000 Жыл бұрын

Those brake backing plate things need cut off on the bottom of the spindle right away for more angle. Drove one today. It's meh.

@ravenlorans Жыл бұрын

11:40 Is Lord!

@peteaponoves Жыл бұрын

I dunno, is it wrong to want to see a slammed truck body on one of these things?

@AustinBarnesRacing Жыл бұрын

Doing a review full of misinformation, on something you know nothing about, so confidently is certainly something you can do… but wow this was bad.

@jjfordingpoursoulstudios8581 Жыл бұрын

"We didn't adjust anything" but compared it to our personal car that we've adjusted, modified, and dialed in. But yeah, this thing is trash......🙄

@flyingfortressrc1794 Жыл бұрын

If you ever gave a Finfrock a pen and paper and told them to design a car, this would be your result.... 🤣

@bobbylefebvre6298 Жыл бұрын

Really good price

@FeralRC Жыл бұрын

You say Redcat doesn't test their products before packaging eh? I had a Shredder I bought on your recommendation that was tweaked right from the factory. I decided to try and break it in gently thinking it was just a slight gear mesh issue. I can't even l explain it but it drove 10 feet then nuked the front diff. It was then that I realized the chassis was tweaked in some way. I even got a new front diff and housing but that wouldn't even assemble properly. Sent it all back for full refund. I'm done.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard other people have front diff issues. That hasn’t been my experience. I lost a center diff on the second or third run, but replaced it and packed it with heavy grease, and never had an issue with it after that. Sorry that happened brother, but I’m glad Redcat refunded you. My Landslide twisted it’s chassis on the first run. I hate it when that happens.

@smokeysrc Жыл бұрын

I understand putting a shity body on something because people are going to change it anyway but let the price reflect that. I think this is over priced it's kinda sad that you can upgrade a real car with the prices of RC shit lately anyway love the video Man 💯👍🤘

@Wreckedekcoupe Жыл бұрын

I love my custom mst rmx 2.0!

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Same!

@paulclancy2404 Жыл бұрын

That's what I have it's been pretty good I did have re tighten the diff, heard the 2.5 was a better diff , idk how the other channel blew a diff in one day and had to.upgrade 2.5 transmission

@another2407 3 ай бұрын

Scrap mst thats Yokomo money

@Wreckedekcoupe Жыл бұрын

Drifting one way better than the other has to do with the open diff. The outer wheel has more wheel speed than the inner. Open diff problems.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

The inner and outer wheel changes depending on which way the car is turning. I’m confident that the steering input being different in different directions is due to the slow servo when you turn right.

@adampsrcs3487 Жыл бұрын

Make it 6s and a burnout car..

@dubrpanda1636 Жыл бұрын

Redcat $399... Rmx $389..

@Wreckedekcoupe Жыл бұрын

The body is horrid. But I see 350z 280z thing. Hate the wrap around windshield. I would love to see a different body on it. But there are a couple neat things about it. But open diff and junk wheels for $400.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@RuintAutomotive Жыл бұрын

Ethan needs to burn that ESC shirt. Let me guess, he ordered an exhaust and six months later received 1 spring and a shirt? 🤷‍♂️🤣

@TrokaRC Жыл бұрын

Drift body: AE86

@carlosaguirre4688 Жыл бұрын

LEXUS GS OR CADDY CTS V

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

I like the way you think. I have a CTS-V Traxxas 4 tec 2.0. It’s a little ripper!

@roythecrazy2790 Жыл бұрын

My option,HSP 94123 pro is much better tho for real

@takumi9776 Жыл бұрын

True. But they are mostly talking about rwd drift cars not really awd drift cars but you can make a rwd conversion

@toolbaggers Жыл бұрын

It would be better as a kit without electronics, body and wheels.

@sscobrapride Жыл бұрын

$300. or buy an rdx or a yokomo or anything else made by actual drift companies. for less. REVED RDX is 240, and you cant fuck up the setup because it has fixed arms.

@getshifty4882 Жыл бұрын

@@sscobrapride The Redcat kit is $240 vs. the RDX which is $280. Hopefully the RDX stock setup works for your location or you'll have to buy turnbuckles right away.

@NemoRCnPinball 5 ай бұрын

MST bodies are NOT licensed

@apismalik Жыл бұрын

yeah the esc and motor combo sucks but good for begineers learning. for that reverse issue is not a problem for drifter. my drift car(not a redcat) esc setup also like that. im set it to make reverse after some tap to prevent sudden reverse while drifting. its better to set forward/brake/no reverse

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

You can pull a jumper to lock out reverse. This isn’t that….. this appears to be an actual problem with the TX/RX

@WoodsUnknown Жыл бұрын

Redcat should just sell Roller Rc's instead, there electronics suck pretty bad. Love the looks of there vehicles but best thing is just throw the electronics in the garbage.

@mgscheue 9 ай бұрын

They do.

@FeralRC Жыл бұрын

Arizona plate? That's going to result in clear coat failure real quick. Better swap on an Ohio plate so it rusts out instead.

@frozenshade666 8 ай бұрын

Endpoint are not set, gyro gain is way to high just looking at the car going back and fort in drift, you don't want a spool on any slick surface, mounting height give the chassis more roll on purpose. You pretty much both know nothing at drifting and you trashing on thing you don't know about.

@kingwally4545 Жыл бұрын

Just a couple hot bois doing hoodrat stuff

@kennethwelty1190 Жыл бұрын

All their bodies are strange .

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

A licensed body would go a long way.

@vincevargas7892 Жыл бұрын

Weird review...you can hear it from the beginning.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

I’m a weird guy.

@sscobrapride Жыл бұрын

Now compare it to anything yokomo. these redcat turds are impressive to those not in the drift scene. it isnt like the leader in rc drift doesnt make an rtr FOR LESS. Supposedly a good value, cant keep up on our track with experienced drifters , and definitely not "competition level." shiny crap like aluminum shocks that suck, graphite chassis, and a junk gyro with NO REMOTE GAIN, impress people these days instead of actual performance. SMDH, redcat gives away a bunch of junk to influencers again and the noobs drool over it. my favorite is when they claim its US made then you see made in malasia and china inside the box. this has a place, next to the junk ass traxxas 4tec at your local hobby shop. it doesnt belong anywhere near actual drift chassis, ane claiming they can even hang with them is laughable.

@getshifty4882 Жыл бұрын

It's US designed, and made in Taiwan. No where does it say "Made in US" If you're not actually into RC drift, I can understand not liking it. Do some research and you'll understand it's pretty solid. We have quite a few at our shop that keep up with built YD2s/MC1/Sharks.

@GeoZilla87 Жыл бұрын

I hope this review is a joke, cus if it’s not, you clearly know nothing about rc drifting.

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

Zero.

@GeoZilla87 Жыл бұрын

It shows…

@10thScaleGarage Жыл бұрын

@@GeoZilla87 thanks bro!

@GeoZilla87 Жыл бұрын

Watch scale science or roadside rc’s reviews. The redcat is the best rtr on the market. I have an mst, and I’ve had to spend $$ to get what the rds comes with from the jump. Also toe in on the rear is important. Just like toe out in the front.