I Broke Down the Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Ending Shot for Shot

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Philip Hartshorn Gaming

Philip Hartshorn Gaming

Ай бұрын

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Ending Reaction and Analysis!
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@PhilipHarts
@PhilipHarts Ай бұрын
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@wk8276
@wk8276 Ай бұрын
Didn’t she tell cloud to not worry about Sephiroth… but at the end of the game she encourages him to fight him. Maybe this isn’t Aerith at all?
@SackyWackyBoy
@SackyWackyBoy Ай бұрын
something odd i noticed is Aeriths position changes so she was never in the radius of where Sephiroth was stabbing. the camera panned to then show Aerith was behind Cloud or at least Cloud thought she was.
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
We need to look more closely at the function of psychic links between worlds and what they tell us: The lifestream rejects Aliens because they aren’t bound by its rules. Sephiroth is born of the planet and slipped into the lifestream, with his mother’s alien abilities intact. The lifestream encompasses all time. Sephiroth can telepathically communicate through the lifestream to other worlds and times and communicate with other versions of himself. His mother’s alien abilities allow him to do this. Aerith proves that those born of the planet can’t do this at will. She requires the planets blessing to communicate with past/ dream world versions of herself via the White Materia. Using it like a time phone. Cloud and Zack both have S cells which allowed Cloud to see from Zack’s POV from time to time. It also allowed them to Synchronise between worlds in “together as one”. One other commonality is that all of them seem to require a “living” host to broadcast and act through whether in the real world or dream world. None of them can just manifest without a connected vector. Also, if Cloud falls into the lifestream, he could potentially broadcast his consciousness through time as well. Not sure if it will be relevant to the plot though.
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
Sephiroth executed a very specific plan to gain leverage over Cloud in this end scene. He set Cloud up to parry his blade, smiling and observing with twitching eyes, anticipating, hoping that Cloud can pull it off. He enhanced Clouds strength, making him strong enough to kill the MidgarSormer, in preparation for this moment. The black whispers led us here, the white whispers tried to stop us. He needed Cloud to be strong enough to fracture off a new dream world. A dream of a living Aerith. (A Aerith who wasn’t supposed to have the white materia) This will be leverage next time he asks for Clouds help. “Help me merge the worlds, it will bring back your friend” Cloud will say yes. Nothing new happened here by accident. The theme of the game is accepting death. In part 3 we will be aligned with Cloud in saying yes at the mid game, rejecting death. We will then come around for the endgame, rejecting Sephiroths plan and accepting death on a ludonarrtive level by beating the game. We will then get our “tearful farewell”
@MogsterKupo
@MogsterKupo Ай бұрын
You're actually making a very convincing argument that this isn't a sequel. In fact, I've just realised they've done this before. A few years after Advent Children, they released Advent Children Complete, which is basically a more coherent and 'complete' version of the existing movie.
@djcetra
@djcetra Ай бұрын
It's crazy how much even the hardcore theory crafters overlooked so much of this stuff. There are big ff channels that said "The ending has so many issues" because they didn't understand things. The ending didn't have issues, the ppl who thought they were hardcore ff theorists did. Rebirth is a Masterpiece.
@am4x
@am4x 4 күн бұрын
WIthout love, it cannot be seen.
@sterlingkart9562
@sterlingkart9562 2 сағат бұрын
Exactly!
@phantomslay5612
@phantomslay5612 Ай бұрын
This is more of the kind of analysis we need from people, instead of them just blindly dismissing this ending because it's either too different or too confusing. Let the team cook. We still have one more game in the remake trilogy.
@thehoneybunempress1664
@thehoneybunempress1664 Ай бұрын
A shame how people tend to skip over the Glenn part. It think it's important in that it supports the eeriness of what we saw in the previous scene, as in we see a dead person talking to someone who thinks they're alive. Even the color scheme is the same. Don't think it's a coincidence at all.
@thatstheway2429
@thatstheway2429 4 сағат бұрын
Plus they were hinting all game long about Jenova’s ability to impersonate people.
@captainsavvy07
@captainsavvy07 Ай бұрын
I just love how Cid's comment isn't just a good gag. Barrett says that Cloud had better be able to carry the weight, and immediately after Cid says "no more heavy loads, we're at capacity as it is" and it's just a wonderful comment on Cloud's mental state; Cloud is 100% at capacity and cannot take any more "heavy loads". I do truly believe that Aerith is trying to keep Cloud together by making him think she's ok as a desperate attempt to stop him breaking and going full black cloak clone. He's so much further gone in this game than he was in og. I wonder how much Aerith divulged to Tifa. They have quite obviously talked about Cloud's mental state and they both echo that he won't become a degraded clone. I doubt she told Tifa she was going to die, but I'm certain there's a plan that Tifa is going to try to see through on her own, which is why she's hesitant to say or do anything to jeopardise Cloud's dwindling sanity (as well as her own grief obviously).
@CAeuJohno123
@CAeuJohno123 Ай бұрын
You get it bud! Nice one!! Not many people are getting it. Leads into another comment I seen, "its like a second home" she's telling cloud she's gotta go back to the altar to finish her prayer since sephiroth "interrupted it." She's keeping him sweet, but still keeping tabs on him, making sure he doesn't completely lose it. Clouds not in the right mind to accept her death just yet, and aeirth knows that. Also i 100% think tifa told aerith that cloud somehow knew every single move zack made during the nibelheim mission, even quoting sephiroth word for word! That's one thing I really wanted more of in rebirth. I wanted to hear the conversations aerith and tifa were having in private about zack and cloud. What does tifa think about cloud knowing all of that stuff?
@thatstheway2429
@thatstheway2429 4 сағат бұрын
@@CAeuJohno123I’d love to get some Tifa and Aerith flashback scenes in part 3.
@KinziruOnoroi
@KinziruOnoroi Ай бұрын
Wonderful analysis, Phil! I was really waiting for this. A very tiny detail you didn't get that makes me feel more heartbroken for Tifa is right after Cloud says "Yep. Sounds good," sitting by the lake. Literally a second later Tifa lets out a sigh, one of "oh my god, he's completely lost," after he said that in a completely tactless manner. Fantastic detail that is easily missable, but says a lot.
@harmen9598
@harmen9598 Ай бұрын
I also noticed recently that “Yup, sounds good” are Aerith’ exact words as well. Somewhere during the game - their date maybe? Need to check where I heard them.
@goat2601
@goat2601 Ай бұрын
Tifa is upset because she needs Cloud to grieve with but, once again (in her mind, so far), he's not there. -- "Where were you again?"
@genkmiz
@genkmiz Ай бұрын
Yeah and notice how that's the only time she reacts to him at all really in these ending scenes. She's the only character in the final scene who doesn't say anything and she seems to brush past Cloud getting on the plane, like she can hardly stand to look at him. I'm getting big vibes that she's struggling to not completely give up on Cloud, if Sephirova pushes her even a little bit then she's gonna fall back real hard for sure.
@Kanriel
@Kanriel Ай бұрын
@@genkmiz I can see her having this mindset, and then when Cloud fully breaks in the lifestream her guilt over doubting him factors into her staying with him and doing whatever it takes to get him back, for real.
@Cloudtwist-py5ud
@Cloudtwist-py5ud Ай бұрын
The blood splatter was such a good touch. On a basic level I think a lot of people can see the shrinking away and denial in Cloud's movements when Sephiroth splatters the blood in his face but one of the ways it's so great is it mirrors how traumatic it was for Cloud to see all the blood on Tifa in Nibelhiem. He literally says "I saw all the blood" when he's talking to Tifa on the rooftop and the thing is that is true, that's one of the things that really happened and affected Cloud so strongly that even though he's influenced by Jenova he still possesses that true memory. In the flashback the camera zooms in on Cloud's hand with Tifa's blood on it showing how much of core memory it is. In his eyes he failed Tifa in Nibelheim and now he's protecting himself having now failed Aerith, the blood is too much for him to see.
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
Nice little detail about the white whispers being agents of Aerith: They cast wards on the ground.
@sujithg6902
@sujithg6902 Ай бұрын
This part of the interview might be interesting to some. Interviewer: That's another thing I was curious about. In the original game, Cloud has that memorable line: "My fingertips are tingling. My mouth is dry. My eyes are burning!" However, it would seem those lines aren't spoken this time... Nojima: For my part, I felt that things like "tingling" and "burning" could be conveyed purely through the visual elements of the production, and that there was no need for them to be expressed through dialogue. I figured that even if the lines were absent, people familiar with the original game would be able to hear Cloud's voice clearly in their head. Toriyama: I can't say much about that sequence of scenes, as I want to encourage a variety of interpretations from those who see them. However, I will say that after consulting with Nomura, we settled on an approach where we inserted a sort of flashback scene where you can see Cloud shouting those lines from the original game. My interpretation for now : The part where we see Cloud speaking the og lines could be Cloud experiencing the OG memories instead of just blocking it out.
@jaybrizzy820
@jaybrizzy820 Ай бұрын
glad to hear someone else have the same theory! im not the only one!
@CrowsofAcheron
@CrowsofAcheron 21 күн бұрын
The VA said he had recorded those lines. So they might come up in part 3.
@dandandan8686
@dandandan8686 Ай бұрын
Watching your take in the ending scene, I noticed two things, when the fight against Sephiroth ends, Cloud ignores the entire party and goes towards Aerith, but they don't show the group's reaction, they simply disappear and my impression is of that they saw Cloud pick Aerith up and say "Aerith, wake up". Man... that must have been the most disturbing thing for them, because the second thing I was going to say is that Barret and Tifa, before they get into Tiny Bronco, they act like they saw "THIS" during the scene in forgotten capital. They know cloud is completely lost because of that.
@andrecaldwell4891
@andrecaldwell4891 Ай бұрын
Also, when Aerith and Cloud are fighting Sep. she says, “Cloud I saw what you done for me back there. Thank you”. Your thoughts on that?
@drewtheunspoken3988
@drewtheunspoken3988 21 күн бұрын
I noticed that, too. "I saw what you did back there. Thank you." It implies that Aerith was a witness and not a participant of that event.
@putrahardjono4409
@putrahardjono4409 16 күн бұрын
There are two Aerith in the game atm: Remake Aerith and Future/ Advent Children/ Original's Aerith. The one fighting against Sephiroth at the end of game and control White Whisper is Future Aerith. Remake Aerith has told Cloud about Future Aerith in Costa Del SOl's beach. (Chapter 6)
@dachelmiqueli
@dachelmiqueli Ай бұрын
Hey man, I appreciate your points of view as I am also a filmmaker and is amazing to have this type of conversations. Keep up the good work man!
@phrofile3613
@phrofile3613 Ай бұрын
41:15 Alex Moukala did sent a video to maxdood weeks ago. Basically he puts the melody with the jenova theme chords in the background. AND IT FITS PERFECTLY. LIKE WHAT?
@tatsuma0503
@tatsuma0503 Ай бұрын
where do i find this?
@SnuSnu91
@SnuSnu91 Ай бұрын
I think it most likely resembles the track "Who am I" - which would make sense, since Cloud is (once again or now even more) in an identity crisis.
@kwtkold9302
@kwtkold9302 Ай бұрын
You also get the Opening theme notes briefly shortly after as well (three brassy notes)
@zeldaoot23
@zeldaoot23 Ай бұрын
​@@tatsuma0503 You can see a clip of the discussion here: clips.twitch.tv/BashfulEnthusiasticFloofPanicBasket-BCjfnp0r0OQo8sBe I think it could be coincidence, but it certainly seems convenient how well Jenova's melody fits on top of that creepy arpeggio.
@zeldaoot23
@zeldaoot23 Ай бұрын
@@tatsuma0503 I think KZfaq didn’t let me post a link, so 40:39 I’ll try to disguise it: m_twitch_tv/clip/BashfulEnthusiasticFloofPanicBasket-BCjfnp0r0OQo8sBe Just replace the underscores with periods for the link.
@BLa-lq2bs
@BLa-lq2bs Ай бұрын
47:13 I think Zack is in the main party’s world too. Especially since the flowers are alive at the church. They were gray, but one, in the dream world Zack was originally in.
@sujithg6902
@sujithg6902 Ай бұрын
I don't get it, Zack is dead in our world. Can 2 Zack exist in the same world, is there need to be worry about paradox. One more question if Zack is in our world and if Cloud saved Aerith in one of the dream worlds like where supposedly Zack survived at the end of remake, what's stopping in bringing back Aerith the same way to the party's world?
@BLa-lq2bs
@BLa-lq2bs Ай бұрын
@@sujithg6902 well if Zack is dead in our world there wouldn’t be 2 Zack’s, there would only be one if the Zack that’s alive is currently in our world. Also, I don’t think Aerith lived in any world. I think either Cloud is imagining it, or Aerith is making him imagine it to try and protect him. She’s able to operate still in the lifestream after death since she’s an ancient
@FVD
@FVD Ай бұрын
I want to see a Zack resolution scene where he visits Gongaga one last time to give his parents some closure and to witness Cissnei's reaction. That'll be quite emotional I reckon...
@CaliforniaRaisens
@CaliforniaRaisens Ай бұрын
@@BLa-lq2bs Based on your interpretation, wouldn't that also apply to Aerith. She died so if she was to come back to the main world just like Zack, there would now be only one Aerith. Hell why stop just with Zack & Aerith, they could bring back the whole of Avalanche as well.
@pandaeyez
@pandaeyez Ай бұрын
@@sujithg6902 You misunderstood what happened. Zack was brought to the other world from the main world, so there are not two of him, just one.
@CrowsofAcheron
@CrowsofAcheron 20 күн бұрын
What's interesting about this ending is that Cloud has a reason to explain why Aerith isn't coming with them on the plane. To him, she's just hanging out at the Forgotten Capital. You can imagine this will create subtle tensions between Cloud and everyone else in the third game, all the way until his breakdown.
@katiec6289
@katiec6289 Ай бұрын
I LOVE how you broke these shots down and what you said at 7:36 I so agree with you know that i think Aerith was the one that moved the Masamune. I think she knows that the White Materia is still important and that in order for her to be the last contingency plan if the White Materia fails to counter act Meteor like in the OG game when it was too late to stop it. She has to die to ensure that. Sephiroth I think is just trying to mess with the timeline in anyway possible now to make it change in any way. Much like when people go back in time in the cartoons and sneeze and kill off all the butterflies in the future. He’s trying to make ANY changes. But I think he wanted Cloud to save Aerith cause would he give Cloud that clue at the end of Remake? Seph laughing is kinda funny. I think he might be laughing due to the irony of the death. I wonder if the reason he tells Aerith before that final battle “I underestimated you” was because he didn’t think she would go through dying again. Yeah. This could be a video in and of itself. Sorry I’m rabbling about this but I LOVE this shot analysis and what it could mean. Added: I had a feeling that Bizzaro Seph was going to be in this game but yes I was SHOCKED as well. In the Japanese, Bizzaro Seph’s name is Reborn or Rebirth Sephiroth so yeah was t entirely surprised by it. That’s why I think the last games is going to break from then R naming and be named Seraphim or Seraph to reference Seph’s Safer Seph form (Safer was the bad localization translation and it should be Seraph or Seraphim. So that’s why I think it’s going to go that route. Just waiting til they announce the game now.
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
We need to look more closely at the function of psychic links between worlds and what they tell us: The lifestream rejects Aliens because they aren’t bound by its rules. Omni Sephiroth is born of the planet and slipped into the lifestream, with his mother’s alien abilities intact. The lifestream encompasses all time. Omni Sephiroth can telepathically communicate through the lifestream to other worlds and times and communicate with other versions of himself. His mother’s alien abilities allow him to do this. He is evidence of why the planet rejects all alien life. Omni Aerith proves that those born of the planet can’t do this at will. She requires the planets blessing to communicate with past/ dream world versions of herself via the White Materia. Using it like a time phone. Cloud and Zack both have S cells which allowed Cloud to see from Zack’s POV from time to time. It also allowed them to Synchronise between worlds in “together as one”. One other commonality is that all of them seem to require a “living” host to broadcast and act through whether in the real world or dream world. None of them can just manifest without a connected vector. Also, if Cloud falls into the lifestream, he could potentially broadcast his consciousness through time as well. Not sure if it will be relevant to the plot though.
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
Sephiroth executed a very specific plan to gain leverage over Cloud in this end scene. He set Cloud up to parry his blade, smiling and observing with twitching eyes, anticipating, hoping that Cloud can pull it off. He enhanced Clouds strength, making him strong enough to kill the MidgarSormer, in preparation for this moment. He needed Cloud to be strong enough to fracture off a new dream world. A dream of a living Aerith. (A Aerith who wasn’t supposed to have the white materia) This will be leverage next time he asks for Clouds help. “Help me merge the worlds, it will bring back your friend” Cloud will say yes. Nothing new happened here by accident..
@Kitth3n
@Kitth3n Ай бұрын
I personally think aerith is gone gone but i’m not completely sure yet. Before watching all the theories I was thinking along the same lines as you. I was fairly confident even before finishing rebirth that part 3 would culminate in some kind of ultimatum from sephiroth. From a story telling perspective it seems like the obvious route. Help me and i will save her. A palpatine/anakin situation if you will. And thus at the climax of the story having cloud choose to let her go completing his arc. But then I wonder what is all of aerith’s scheming for?
@Kean_Bean
@Kean_Bean Ай бұрын
@@Kitth3n I think I see it along the same lines as you originally saw it. I see Omni-Aeriths scheming as necessary counter play to maintain the natural order. There seems to be an internal logic & Rules to how characters communicate across Time and Dream Worlds. Sephiroths Alien life force allows him to transmit telepathically through the lifestream once he’s in it (the reason the lifestream rejects alien life, they aren’t bound by its rules). Aerith can’t do that at will, but the planet allows her to use the white materia as a line through time and worlds. Clouds S cells are what allow him to transmit through worlds the same as Sephiroth. Aerith used Sephiroths own technique against him by passing Cloud the information of her white material and transmitting it back to his world. Because of this the Aerith in the dream world will still be in play, she will be informed of the chess moves necessary to stop Sephiroth. She wasn’t supposed to have this knowledge. In addition to this it provides an answere to the clear Materia issue. What will fill it and why? In Cosmo canyon the game states “if the lifestream is memories, what about hopes and dreams? We remember those don’t we” “The black material was once the purest materia made black by spite” - implying it was once white transformed. It is formed of the Gi’s hopes and dreams of Oblivion, suggesting that black and white material are born of hopes and dreams instead of regular memories. I predict that as we play the game we will jump back and forth from Aeriths dream and it will eventually fill out that empty materia and serve some key purpose. It’s also a meta narrative. In the late 90’s thousands of people signed the petition to bring Aerith back to life. The devs are not re-writing history but giving us an in cannon manifestation of these hopes and dreams. A dream of what would happen if Aerith was still alive. This will help win the day on the surface world where the plot will play out almost beat for beat. But as you say, Cloud and the player will have to let go by the end of the game.
@allisonkreutzberg6079
@allisonkreutzberg6079 Күн бұрын
I absolutely loved this video! Starting to watch some of your other ones now. Amazing insight! Thank you so much for sharing 😊
@PhilipHarts
@PhilipHarts Күн бұрын
Thank you so much!!!! I put a lot of work into this video so that means the world 🙏🏻 I hope you enjoy the rest of them!
@philiphall6351
@philiphall6351 Ай бұрын
This was excellent. I never saw him placing her in the water. That was a great spot. Something i wish a lot of people talked about is when he places the Black Materia in the Buster Sword. The evil in Cloud is apparent when walking and talking to Barret. He is In a constant shadow.
@slerplederp6655
@slerplederp6655 Ай бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. I had a lot of questions with the ending and was very conflicted with it at first, but thanks to your video I feel a lot better about the ending and the direction they took!
@Mehrk
@Mehrk 29 күн бұрын
if they had put a little piano rift of Hollow when Cloud was standing there all alone after lifestream Aerith dissipated... wouldve been peak
@CerealSpilller
@CerealSpilller 2 күн бұрын
Great video! I can't wait for part 3. It's gonna be an emotional roller coaster for sure.
@SickSoundingStuff
@SickSoundingStuff Ай бұрын
'The Rainbow Light' So I think of the game like this: Time and destiny are moving in a straight line, like a tree. OG FF7 is the trunk of the tree. Everytime someone now messes with time and the planet's destiny a branch is born, and this is visualized by this rainbow light. We see that when Zack has to make a choice in the subway tunnel: Help Cloud or Help Biggs?When ever a new branch is born, a new worlds are created, also evidenced by the Zack scene since he ends up going to Shinra HQ and by Biggs. Two branches. Every branch and every twig are a little different. And so that rainbow light is clearly Aerith's doing. Proof of this would be when she shoves Cloud into a portal in the flowerbed and ends up where what Sephiroth calls "the true nature of reality," there is a Rainbow around the flowerbed portal. That Aerith is clearly the Aerith from the OG game, hiding in a world that has execpted its fate, but I digress. Basically the Rainbow Light to me seems to be Aerith creating new worlds that are sure to end but then be recycled, and Sephiroth is all out there cutting down trees and gathering them up so he can rule over them, as a God, for eternity. I believe he wants never ending suffering and that's his end game. Gosh, once you try to one small things with this story you end up with a tangled mess in your lap.
@darkHodakai
@darkHodakai Ай бұрын
I loved this breakdown! As a long time FFVII lore man myself this was awesome to watch! One thing not mentioned, was how in the JENOVA LIFE fight, reflective of everyone's emotions, every party member enters with an automatically full limit break. Except Cloud, whose limit bar is empty.
@johnnydomol1048
@johnnydomol1048 23 күн бұрын
Underrated channel. You should have way more subscribers and views. This is just as educational in terms of videography and cinematography as it is an FF7 analysis. Awesome content.
@ChrisG_90
@ChrisG_90 Ай бұрын
What people miss, when barret mentions, it's a heavy load, and he best be ready to carry it. He's saying to Cloud, when you're a leader, you'll lose people as he lost Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. So when cloud responds quickly with essentially "Yeah im fine with that" hes essentially saying hes okay losing them. Its so dark.
@Valentien23
@Valentien23 Ай бұрын
I agree with Sleepezi regarding TIfa with the thought that Cloud killed Aerith. Sephiroth throws the blood onto Cloud, The party runs in and sees Cloud with Blood … But sephiroth turned away with “no” blood .. In the next game, cloud under the impression that aerith is alive while fighting with Tifa that you did it. And later on Sephiroth telling cloud the same story that he killed aerith; which would help break him down along with showing him the truth of nibelheim
@bryanhoke2676
@bryanhoke2676 Ай бұрын
Aerith’s clothing doesn’t react to the puff of smoke from the Bronco but does react to the wind as it takes off. This makes me wonder whether the Aerith Cloud is talking to at the end is another hallucination, especially since her dialogue is mostly things she’s said before. However, in the scenes where she isn’t talking to Cloud I think we can still infer that she does have an actual spiritual presence.
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 2 күн бұрын
Not a hallucination. The timelines split, creating a world where Aerith lived and one where she died. Cloud sees both worlds at once. So he sees Aerith and no one else does.
@aztekkgamer2104
@aztekkgamer2104 Ай бұрын
Hear me out guys, when we arrive at the forgotten capital we are blocked by a wall of whispers, same as remake before the fight with fate. Cloud says “aerith” and three whispers from behind him open a portal, which im sure we can agree are the whispers sephiroth controls. When cloud goes through the portal i believe he ends up in a different world and he actually does save a different world aerith, but our main timeline aerith ends up dying, After she is stabbed we see the rest of the party rushing in because the whisper wall vanished, not through a portal like cloud did. I think thats something important. So i believe there is still a chance she is out there in a world waiting for cloud to find her. I can be totally wrong after all this is just my theory. 😁
@InterruptedByFireW
@InterruptedByFireW Ай бұрын
Even befire thag, when Seph is explaining to Cloud the nature of reality, Seph baits Cloud into striking him. And he does so, right in front a portal which Cloud passes through upon striking Seph, "I give you, my blessing"... 🤓
@CrowsofAcheron
@CrowsofAcheron Ай бұрын
Yeah, the portal is important.
@goat2601
@goat2601 Ай бұрын
It very much looks like Cloud is the one in control of those 3 black whispers. He walks towards it very calmly and commands them to open a rift. This is either Sephiroth's "blessing" (presumably this is when he receives the black materia) or the empty white materia bestowing him this power.
@crandaddy9330
@crandaddy9330 Ай бұрын
Love listening to your takes and analysis of these games. Unfortunate they don't pick up more steam. Liked and shared, can't wait for part 3!
@jonathanbeaudoin495
@jonathanbeaudoin495 Ай бұрын
aww man....Nanaki saying aerith name in questioning always get tears to my eyes :(
@paulmhessing
@paulmhessing Ай бұрын
Spot on! Thank you for sharing this analysis with us.
@MrLightlike78
@MrLightlike78 Ай бұрын
@Philip A real blink and you miss it moment at the end when Rufus is flying back over Midgar...the sector 6 plate is back- Dream Pheonix has a good cook on this and I was wondering what other content creators think about it. Great video as always.
@phrofile3613
@phrofile3613 Ай бұрын
Interesting
@shaheed313
@shaheed313 Ай бұрын
This was the best breakdown I’ve seen on the internet. Well done
@dreamphoenix
@dreamphoenix Ай бұрын
Fantastic analysis and exposition. Thank you!
@Josith13
@Josith13 Ай бұрын
Very insightful dude, kept my attention for the duration. And appreciate the optimism rather than "they're screwing it up" lol. Helps me be a bit more satisfied with what's happened. All I can add is those shots toward the end with aerith watching the bronco fly away are reminiscent of the old ps1 disc change / key art, where shes gazing up at the Highwind. Also equipping black materia maybe = meteorain skill for cloud in part 3? Kinda the one cool thing we've yet to see from OG.
@KinziruOnoroi
@KinziruOnoroi Ай бұрын
YEEEEEEES! Made my day already and I just started watching.
@Khaleetus
@Khaleetus Ай бұрын
48:02. The white materia turns black when we change angles 👀👀👀
@InterruptedByFireW
@InterruptedByFireW Ай бұрын
I was wondering where this was when you mentioned it in your Sleepezi video!
@emptymelodies3316
@emptymelodies3316 Ай бұрын
This has been an absolute joy to watch. Thank you, Phil.
@sterlingkart9562
@sterlingkart9562 2 сағат бұрын
What a great analysis! Im definitely gonna subscribe to your channel. Your theories definitely hit my same points of my theories. It makes me more excited for Part 3 and im still thinking about this game. And I've only finished this game 2 weeks ago at the time commenting.
@sergiogodinezmarron5535
@sergiogodinezmarron5535 Ай бұрын
I think when Aerith says "its like a second home" she's referring to the forgoten capital. She goes there to pray for stoping meteor but Sephiroth interrupt her. So Cloud craft this in his head to explain himself why aerith is no longer in the party.
@ohbigstretch
@ohbigstretch Ай бұрын
That’s 100% my read too
@CAeuJohno123
@CAeuJohno123 Ай бұрын
Duuuude. Damn I've been trying to figure that one out... makes so such sense... clouds totally OK with aerith "not being in the party anymore" because she's gotta go back to the altar to finish her prayer... sick that you noticed that. Not many people have touched on that line. Good job!
@pandaeyez
@pandaeyez Ай бұрын
@@CAeuJohno123 and I think Clouds gotta rationalise it too. He is susceptible to believe whatever as long as he doesnt have to be reminded of the truth. If he challenges it logically, he will start to break down but his denial mechanism will kick in and he will try to rationalise it.
@Mysticgamer
@Mysticgamer 19 күн бұрын
​@@pandaeyezHe's been through a lot so yeah.
@WhatICallWrestling
@WhatICallWrestling Ай бұрын
Positively brilliant. Thank you for making this!
@pressx9174
@pressx9174 Ай бұрын
This is the BEST! Breakdown Ive seen, not too complicated compare to others who stray too much from what the cutscenes are telling us.
@kingbass1991gaming
@kingbass1991gaming 18 күн бұрын
So just to point out as when Aerith mentions its like a second home, if you read : The maiden that travels the planet is a story about Aerith the moment she passes away, her experiences her feelings her connection to the planet, actually the Lifestream or how her connection towards it, she even references that being the promised land, a place full of energy/life pretty much everything Shinra wants, I wonder if technically in order to use Holy, would a Ancient need to sacrifice themselves in order to use this? because in the actual read she needed to be in the lifestream in order to be able to achieve the grand success of stopping Meteor. - Have a read I for 1 had put a massive connection with Rebirth and its just perfect but I must admit, amazing theory and broken down info on your videos, I love how you view things as its so similar to mine :) keep it up! looking forward to the next video! hopefully u bring up the read! haha
@joe_dns4625
@joe_dns4625 Ай бұрын
Great breakdown, Phil!
@GorillaSki99
@GorillaSki99 Ай бұрын
Sweet!!! Awesome vid ma-guy!
@joshwhite83
@joshwhite83 Ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown man!
@drewtheunspoken3988
@drewtheunspoken3988 21 күн бұрын
48:27 Aerith turning towards Cid is the same shot used in Advent Children when she and Zack are walking off into the light at the end. I think that Aerith really does talk to Cloud when he's cradling her the first time. I think this is "Omni-Aerith" trying to keep Cloud from breaking in that moment. Sephiroth needs him to break and give in to despair so Sephiroth can control him. During this time, you see the lifestream energy emanating from her. After the battle, though, you don't see that. So she's definitely dead when he tells her to open her eyes. Deep down, I think Cloud knows Aerith is dead. He never speaks to her when anyone else is around. Subconsciously, he doesn't want anyone challenging his version of reality. I have a problem with the idea that Aerith had to die to defeat Sephiroth. In the original game they wanted to avoid the "heroic sacrifice" cliché. The whole idea was that death is something that can come out of nowhere and is very rarely dramatic. This point was reinforced by the party pointing out that Aerith didn't seem to plan on dying when she left the party. It would be odd to backtrack on that point if they're keeping this project in line with the OG. There's also no Jenova Aerith. Yes, Jenova can assume those forms but she needs a host for that. We see this clearly with Glen and Sephiroth. Anytime there's an interaction, there's someone infected with Jenova nearby. There are times when only Cloud can see Sephiroth without a black cloak but there are black Whispers involved. I don't have a problem with Aerith being dead. It's the way the story happened but it really makes me question the reason for the way Remake ends. I'm hoping Part 3 answers that but as things currently stand, it strikes me as a cynical and manipulative decision. There's other things I'd love to discuss (mostly positive or questions) but I think this comment is long enough.
@m.j.gallagher6756
@m.j.gallagher6756 Ай бұрын
Really looking forward to this. Get in my eyes!
@PhilipHarts
@PhilipHarts Ай бұрын
Thank you man, we have to chat soon!
@XoticWolf
@XoticWolf Ай бұрын
This video was fantastic man I hope one day maxmillion dood watches this video bc I thought I knew most of the ending but u opened it up even more for me!
@ani.mintss
@ani.mintss Ай бұрын
Very awesome analysis! However, at 8:59, you talk about Cloud thinking he’s Zack when that just isn’t true. He took on Zack’s heroic stories to form his SOLDIER/hero persona, yes, but Cloud himself doesn’t think he’s Zack. If he did, he would’ve called Gongaga his home, he would’ve immediately recognized Aerith, he’d call himself Zack. This is an important detail that is sadly misconstrued by the fan base.
@andrewlavigne44
@andrewlavigne44 Ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown, Phillip. FYI I don't think the final cinematic takes place in Rocket Town, but on the Northern Continent: it's to the west of the Temple if you look at the map. (The Northern Continent doesn't turn snowy until the very edge of the map we get in Rebirth.)
@NPDStudio
@NPDStudio Ай бұрын
Absolutely loved the ending. Was trying to wrap my head around what was happening on my first time, but over a short amount of time this became was of my favorite endings to a game with a TON of things to decrypt and think about. This scene was way more impactful to me than the original scene (i played the OG in 2005 after seeing Advent Children, so it had a different impact). But this has become my favourite game of all time. Rebirth gives me a feeling i havent felt since Kingdom Hearts 2 & FFX ❤️ Thanks for you videos! 😁
@rowanmorris2187
@rowanmorris2187 Ай бұрын
Great vid. Thank you.
@gabrielwilliams8809
@gabrielwilliams8809 Ай бұрын
I think the fundemental theme that defines how Sephiroth and Aerith are actually trying to do is seeing how they do it. You could say Multiverse, paradox, Meteor's power levels and so on but what Sephiroth leaked in his monologue is that pain, hatred, despair and loss make it easy to control people. Aerith on the other hand is WAY too forgiving, trusting, hopeful and optomistic despite being given every reason to do the opposite. In short the Holy Materia is literally liquid forgiveness that blanks out the self destructive thoughts of the planet. That said... Now to his plan. If the planets subconcious is within this version of the lifestream then and it's power literally effects reality then the black Materia is literally a suicidal thought yet to be taken like inception. A thought worth dying for. Aerith's example and sacrafice is to polar opposite showing memories worth living for. Sephiroth's defeat in advent children only comes after Cloud stops hating him and begins to pity him. In that way Sephiroth is like the GI in that he is like a ghost that has unfinished business and attacks out of hate. His hate is scientifically backed by bringing Jenova to the Northern Crater and having Shinra kill the only things stopping him. The Weapons. The Black Whispers are hiding one truth that makes sense if you think about it. In at least one Universe.... Sephiroth won. And it could be in the main timeline. The one thing that has always bothered me is why bring Jenova's body to the Northern Crater? The people infected by the S cells by Hojo came to midgar and not to Sephiroth. In Advent Children they say it's just a fact that the reunion summons the most powerful version of itself. My theory is that Sephiroth is also a puppet, tasked with bringing his "mother" (another deception) back to the Northern Crater to continue due her bidding. 🤔 Up to this point Sephiroth's hatred and Machevelian planning where of his own accord making his goals resolute. In his speech in Advent children he speaks like Jenova is on his side and he wants him to follow in her footsteps. What would be cool to see Sephiroth's face if Jenova chose another and abandoned him by choosing Cloud the winner of the last two fights. It's never gonna happen but I just point that out to say Sephiroth is still acting under the instincts of this intergalactic hate virus but instead of fighting it he is embracing it like Joker dancing down the stairs. Lastly I want to nention the Edge of Creation stage we keep seeing. I used to think this was a inner mind place, or where the planet was born in a galaxy but after seeing Aerith basically cover the place in light I realized what it was. This isn't Cloud's mind/heart. It's Sephiroth, cold, distant, empty and as lifeless as an asteroid drifting through space. Dissconected from the planet. A place where he makes the rules. Aerith entering uninvited almost trying to change his mind takes guts which is why I think Sephiroth almost respected her for a second. Everything has been as planned for someone who has planned every angered counter but this I don't believe he saw coming. Just my thoughts. Been holding alot of these theories in so thank you for putting this video out there. Sorry if these aren't better organized. Just plopped the down immediately after watching the video.
@kwtkold9302
@kwtkold9302 Ай бұрын
Small little music note, at 24:10 you get that synth sound that overrides the piano doing the jenova notes. The moment it switches from Sephiroth to Jenova being in control. Cool little moment.
@danielm.2118
@danielm.2118 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this great analysis.
@kiwisocks
@kiwisocks 13 күн бұрын
Fun thing: Aerith's first quest names for you the flowers you see in the final shot: red gerbera (unconscious love or to be fully immersed and surrounded by love) and white daisies (Purity/innocense), in addition to her yellow lilies ('Reunited lovers'). I think you forgot something pretty major that isn't shown in the video - Cloud (and the entire party) were barred from the City by both sets of Whispers, and only when the party desperately called out her name (Calling it a 'password', definitely a reference to all the ways people were trying to figure out how to get Aerith to live when playing the OG) and held the rift open for Cloud to be able to get through. As Barret explicitly points out before they figure out the 'password', it's like the ending of Remake. So that rift Cloud goes through is another change in the concept of Fate...only he goes through it alone, instead of with the party. This is remarkably important because it's a fulfillment of the first of Cait Sith's fortunes. When the White Whispers show up around Masamune and what happened switches, the party doesn't go in through the rift Cloud goes through. They go in the normal way, because the wall of Whispers goes away at the same time - they weren't there to witness the changed fate. (Speculation) The unvoiced speech we see as well as his calm reaction both happened - they happened in the fate Aerith chose wouldn't lead to a 'broken world', and in the fate Cloud created with the help of the party that *is* a 'broken world', respectively. The party/Tifa could only see the horrifying reality because they didn't go into the rift. He's alone with her in the shots where she's comforting him because they weren't there in the time she was alive. The glitchyness signifies a 'glitch in the matrix' of both realities existing in the same place and time. And *having* this split would be the reason Cloud really supports Sephiroth's new Reunion, not just through Jenova cell instinct, explaining why Seph is smirking at both being foiled and her death. Cloud wants the world where Aerith lives. Sephiroth is promising it to him.
@highwindknight
@highwindknight Ай бұрын
I'd like to note something prior to this and mainly noticed it when I saw another playthrough. But the wall of whispers that prevents the party from going to where Aeris is also broken open by other black whispers to give the opportunity for Cloud to enter. Effectively, the black whispers wanted only Cloud to enter. And a further previous sequence where the lifestream coming from a crack in the sky and turning into black whispers further cements the idea that they are the will of a planet that have chosen to side with or are being manipulated/corrupted by Sephiroth.
@haihuynh8337
@haihuynh8337 Ай бұрын
The sword wasn't moved at all. They are 2 different visions: 1 like the original game when it stabs through Aerith's back and planted to the ground. The blood running below it is from Aerith body - still in kneeling position, held by the sword. 1 as the whisper-created vision / reality where Cloud successfully deflected the sword, sending it flying away. The whisper-created vision might be how Aerith fight against Sephiroth's manipulation over Cloud's mentality. She created such vision to safe-guard Cloud's mentality. It's important for the final 7 seconds. And yeah, true Aerith is possibly not killed either in the Church nor the altar. She's always with Cloud. It might be the trick she plays out using the white / transparent materia.
@dyangoh1646
@dyangoh1646 Ай бұрын
I think the depth that comes from the fact that yes he's not completely himself and is in denial, is so profound because he's also really being interacted with by aerith in the lifestream. Like the party's perspective is that he's in denial, and they are not wrong, but what he's actually interacting with when he's talking to aerith is not made up either. Just something that unfortunately makes it harder for him to face the truth. It's crazy the levels of this and can set up for some very cool potential party/friend dynamics in the story going forward. Really good takes on a lot of this breakdown. I'm glad I felt the same about a lot of this stuff and I'm not alone haha
@AdamCYounis
@AdamCYounis Ай бұрын
I agree completely. I think the developers were going for a "yes, and" style of implication. Everything we're seeing is true in a sense, except Cloud's fractured existence makes it hard to reconcile. I particularly dislike the framing that "Cloud must have failed and is simply deluded" because we're given visual confirmation of the rainbow effect while it happens. Cloud is confused partly because, in his truth, he really did stop masamune. But from the outside where it literally didn't appear to happen, he must be crazy. Both can be true if there are two worlds superimposed.
@RayEros
@RayEros Ай бұрын
Noice. I will riff of this info soon when my brain kicks into gear. Good work 🔥💯
@oneeyegovernor806
@oneeyegovernor806 Ай бұрын
The whole game is a masterpiece! thanks for the play by play man❤
@realdomdom
@realdomdom Ай бұрын
You sell your thoughts very well. It's certainly interesting to consider.
@nem3sis.yt_
@nem3sis.yt_ 13 сағат бұрын
25:46 also lowkey the way he looks crazy and weird swaying his head like that- I cannot lie he looks insane from tifa’s view 😭 and knowing tifa is scared of cloud falling apart it must’ve been terrifying
@nem3sis.yt_
@nem3sis.yt_ 13 сағат бұрын
also, to me at least, his eyes look more dead in her perspective then in his imaginative dream, there’s not a single light casted in them, they are slightly red snd tired, st least dark and there’s a shadow casted on them
@Johan92Johansson
@Johan92Johansson Ай бұрын
Just love to hear the way you break down the artistic signs of the game.
@sunnytimes_
@sunnytimes_ Ай бұрын
Incredible work! 🙌🏾 Just to add, in the OG, it is Jenova who says "You're just a puppet" rather than Sephiroth. I wonder whether that means it is Jenova's will over Sephiroth in Rebirth 👀
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 Ай бұрын
Great video
@Anthony-hb3hz
@Anthony-hb3hz 29 күн бұрын
Beautifully done. Best explanation I've seen. I wanted Areith to live..
@zeldaoot23
@zeldaoot23 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis! Notice that at 37:30 where Cloud “wakes” Aerith up, the music playing is a part of CLOUD’s theme, not Aerith’s. I think that’s significant.
@erichotopf5787
@erichotopf5787 22 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation. If I remember correctly, someone already confirmed that this is some kind of multiverse but I think it is not the same kind of multiverse than the Mavel multiverse. I like the comparison to dreams and I hope that is more along those lines. Since the rest of the game is a lot like the original, I think the third part will be like the original as well and only add new perspectives and a new lore that explains what happens rather than to alternate the events that happen. I would add some things. 1. If Arith decides to change the event that sword was deflected, than Sephiroth would most likely not be that convinced that he won, which is shown by his smile. So he did this himself or the planet changed this and Arith is not in control over the white whispers (at least not until she actually died) but they decide to "help" her. The explanation of Sephiroth stabbing Arith in the church feels of timewise and would rather result in just her bleeding or being dead rather than changing the position of the sword. 2. Why does Arith in the end does say that she will stop meteor? Sephiroth did not cast it yet and even can't since he has not the black materia. Cloud says he will stop him so even if she is only his imagination, than he would not imagine her thinking that he will give the black Materia to Sephiroth. Or he does think that he will give it to him because he is controlled by Jenova but than is the question why he would imagine that Arith will stop meteor. This feels off and must feel even more so for people not knowing what happens in the original. Either way I appreciate the hard work that you put into that and the amount of details you point out while we se the scenes. I was looking for that but only find people talking how shit this is (even after they played 100h of a game that hit nearly every note and improved so much) or people that talked about how good this is and what crazy thinks happened but not showing prove of it. Shure the scenes are no prove of it either, but your explanation is very understandable. THANK YOU!
@zzzzzygaming
@zzzzzygaming 9 сағат бұрын
Yo! Great work! Crazy how Aerith died was the very first thing u said in the video and the spoiler warning after the highlights intro lol 😅
@dannysimion
@dannysimion 29 күн бұрын
I gotta hand it to you Phillip, you nailed a lot of lores that I wasn't quite familiar with but couldn't put my finger on, Excellent astute observations. Some I caught but others I did not and that was because there was so much going prior to the final battle and afterwards. I cannot wait to see which of your theories comes to fruition in the final installment of this trilogy. Either way, we are gong to have some great character building. Even though the storyline is in the perspective of cloud, I agree that he has become an unreliable narrator and thus we get a more clearer storyline through Tifa which I think works great in a literary standpoint for the storyline. The ending definitely broke me when we see the party fly off and we see Aeris seeing them off and uttering goodbye. Developers did it again for me just as they did for OG and more.
@EvanYoungMusic
@EvanYoungMusic Ай бұрын
This is the greatest deep dive of the ending I’ve seen. Absolutely incredible eye for seeing what most of us were couldn’t. We were seeing through such clouded eyes… until now.
@rizkytanrian6092
@rizkytanrian6092 Ай бұрын
The part in the ending when Aerith said, it's okay "it's like a second home". In Japanese she said "it's okay this is a Cetra's place". Therefore the double meaning "the lifestream OR the City of Ancients" is unlikely (unless if we extend the argument to also say that the lifestream too is a Cetra's place??) Interestingly, there is one line not in the ending that Aerith said that may feel like a double meaning in Japanese, but not in English. The line when in Temple of Ancients before handing the Black Materia (fake) to Cloud, Aerith said "no matter what happens, I'm here for you" in English, but in Japanese she said "何があっても 一緒だよ” the part 一緒 (issho) usually means together, as in we're in this together/i'm with you; but the same phrase could also be read/meant as "it is the same". So, it can be either means: whatever happens, we're together OR whatever happens, it's the same.... now what's the same? no matter what we do here, the outcome will always be the same?? That is the real question :D
@GamingNightsNeoMasaki
@GamingNightsNeoMasaki Ай бұрын
What made me surprised is when the whispers were forcing cloud to ready his buster sword, the tapping icon is trying to tell the player to resist the whispers, but a lot of players mistook it as an indication to strike down Aerith. 37:44 suddenly plays the FF7 main theme for some reason. “It’s like a second home” in JP was “this is where the Cetras used to live”.
@Brucie07
@Brucie07 Ай бұрын
I’ve watched so many videos explaining the ending and this is by far the best and most thorough.
@pseudocide.
@pseudocide. Ай бұрын
IDK what's gonna happen and it's exciting, but the hints really point to Aerith is definitely dead. That ending is not her, way too ominous. Even the clue of them omitting the scenes during the credits where they're hinting something along the lines of thing might not be true - saying all the scenes in the credits are true but parts of the ending scenes/last cut scene from Cloud's "perspective" are purposefully not shown...implying they are may or may not be fake. They will definitely show the full Aerith death scene and laying her to rest in in the lake in part 3, actually hearing Cloud's speech and seeing him lay her in the water.
@cynicalidealist11
@cynicalidealist11 Ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown. Just like remake I love the ending the more I think about it.
@epikazzy8452
@epikazzy8452 27 күн бұрын
Right after Cloud said promise, the song plays. Awesome transitions and hints.
@dexaltat
@dexaltat Ай бұрын
In all the frames where Aerith is definitely dead, there is no rainbow effect and blood is visible on Cloud’s hand. There is no blood in all the rainbow shots. I think that Cloud, having repelled Sephiroth's blow, was able to create a reality in which Aerith is alive. And Cloud is in a kind of superposition, being able to observe several realities at the same time. The rest of the group sees only one reality (except for Tifa, something is definitely wrong with her after the Lifestream) in which Aerith is definitely dead. I also have an idea that since Cloud's psyche is divided into several persons, then in this scene we see several different mental states of Cloud. It is possible that in part 3 of the game we will see all these reunions.
@HXXXXWXXN
@HXXXXWXXN Ай бұрын
But even in the scenes where rainbows surrounds them, Aerith is still acting like she was killed by Sephiroth -- In Cloud's arms and laying on the ground. If she was saved in another timeline, then why is she not standing/kneeling or being more lifelike?
@dexaltat
@dexaltat Ай бұрын
@@HXXXXWXXN Sephiroth answer on this question: Confluence of world's. This is exactly the same as Sephiroth being simultaneously in several worlds during the battle with him. In one world Aerith must die for cast Holy so she die :D
@CaliforniaRaisens
@CaliforniaRaisens Ай бұрын
Cope
@thebrigade7684
@thebrigade7684 Ай бұрын
How to resurrect Aerith: The Guide... Y'all being played by the devs
@HXXXXWXXN
@HXXXXWXXN Ай бұрын
@@thebrigade7684 Yeah, I'm in the "She's dead" camp. I'm sure there's way to interpret the scenes to make it seem like she was saved, but I think the arguments against her being alive are way stronger.
@DrVarner
@DrVarner 7 күн бұрын
Love the analysis. My ‘97, middle school self desperately wants Aerith and Cloud to end up with a happy ending together. But my mind knows that a major part of what made OG FF7 so impactful was the real sense of loss at Aerith’s death. What can I say, I love her character so much. I’m extremely thankful for Briana and Cody’s performances, brilliant stuff. Love your theories. I agree that things are far simpler than many YT theorists supposing. I subbed and I will catch you for sure when Part 3 drops.
@thecatdaddy1695
@thecatdaddy1695 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for this.
@johnpettiford6547
@johnpettiford6547 Ай бұрын
I was surprised that you pointed to the OG at 52:16. There was a scene earlier with Zack and Elmyra where they looked up and saw the tear in the sky. I’m not convinced these other worlds are “dream worlds”. I believe these are remanifestations of the Lifestream and the people in it, and that Sephiroth is building things up to give Cloud an ultimatum that if he kills him, he kills all the Lifestream manifestations.
@DaDarknessXIII
@DaDarknessXIII 2 күн бұрын
I am ashamed to call myself a true FFVII fan. How in the world did I miss all this extra juicy stuff!! I’m am so so ashamed, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to go back and 100% the OG FFVII again and deal with all that damn chocobo breeding…..I’ll make it up by replaying the game on hard mode to 100%
@dellapj
@dellapj Ай бұрын
To your question about which of the two story points Cloud will face the truth about Aerith, I suspect, after hearing your great pitch, that it will parallel the Nibelheim reveals. Basically, Sephiroth has the “not the whole story” reveal where he gives Cloud the version of Nibelheim where he’s not there at all, which Tifa unwittingly corroborates because she never (fully consciously) saw Cloud. Likewise, I think Sephiroth gives Cloud just the horrible, traumatic parts of Aerith’s death. The blood, the “talking to a dead body out loud” stuff, Tifa watching a stone-eyed Cloud saying “wake up” to her body, etc. And in the Lifestream we’ll get, along with the “true” Nibelheim, the “true” Aerith mourning, where Cloud will get to see himself being very much not a puppet, but a fully mourning, loving friend, including the monologue. I would also say it would be cool (and further motivating for Tifa’a confusion) if Cloud was actually lucidly mourning Aerith when he buried her. He blocks it out but it was a human moment observed by the others.
@TheMusikalChristian
@TheMusikalChristian Ай бұрын
I like the how they did the flowers at 58:23. You see a bunch of flowers, but the flower Aerith gave to Cloud became the "center of attention".
@thehero7141
@thehero7141 Ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown! Would you be willing to do a breakdown of the Ever Crisis Season 2 trailer? It had this one striking scene of Sephiroth that I think you would be interested in taking a look at.
@bradcook1537
@bradcook1537 16 күн бұрын
48:28 I haven't seen anyone else comment on this. Aerith's turn towards Cid really reminds me of her in AC. I felt like she did the exact same motion there.
@SantalynValferys
@SantalynValferys 3 күн бұрын
I love your explanation about Aerith dying as True Aerith in her dreamworld in the lifestream. THIS IS IT. Sephiroth thinks he has won the long fight against her. But she gave the white materia with her memories to Cloud and it returns to the lifestream so she is reborn in it, to fight with Cloud. Cloud is not delusional at first, it's her spirit who comes to comfort him, he seems surprised. But it's like in the song, he takes her hand and doesn't let her go. He is able to fight Sephiroth thanks to this denial, and that's Bizarro Sephiroth, not just a Jenova form like in OG, way more powerful, fueled with hatred and anger from Aerith's friends and collapsing dreamworlds. Cloud can't be in despair right now. After the fight his denial goes on because he's not ready to face the truth (and it's "easy" since he managed to repel Masamune this time, and Aerith has appeared to him). But it means that Omni-Aerith is still there fighting Sephiroth. She will hide again in the dreamworlds and maybe find a way to drive the story to a better end where humanity is not destroyed. It's not totally impossible that she herself will be able to come back physically. We've seen that "dreams" can become real (kind of) with the summon materias.
@lynnr.9974
@lynnr.9974 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone else has pointed this out, but the mosaic design on the altar is very tentacle-like which is a motif usually associated with Jenova. And in every shot of Aerith, she's directly in the center, making it look like tentacles are spreading from her. I keep thinking about this, unsure if it means anything but a really neat detail regardless! As always, love your breakdowns ❤
@chrisfinch7887
@chrisfinch7887 Ай бұрын
Also did anybody notice that cloud was holding the holy materia and when then pan off in the ending scene he is holding the black materia?
@shannon1242
@shannon1242 Ай бұрын
At 22:08 there is pink lifestream flowing behind Sephiroth. At the end of OG after the Omnislash Sephiroth dissolves into pink lifestream. Some of which flows into Cloud and doesn't exit. The moment in Lifestream Black where Sephiroth made Cloud his core.
@someoneelse9680
@someoneelse9680 Ай бұрын
This has really made me like Rebirrh a lot more. I loved everything up to the ending the same way I did remake and like remake as time passed I loved the ending there as well. I still have my apprehensions but I am loving what they’re setting up now it’s just a matter of what the landing will be and if they’ll nail it. Everything is riding on that and I cannot wait for it as sad as I am to see this journey with these characters end
@bradcook1537
@bradcook1537 16 күн бұрын
I wasn't sure how I felt about the Rufus cut scene at first but I love it the more I see it.
@barisaxman2
@barisaxman2 Ай бұрын
I wonder if there is any significance to the visuals of the floor under Aerith. The pattern on the floor makes it look like tentacles are coming out from that spot under Aerith. Probably a few ways that could be interpreted.
@captainkosmic7013
@captainkosmic7013 Ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah let's go
@LelanWellz
@LelanWellz Ай бұрын
If you notice in the church when she activated the rainbow the chairs disappear
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