I can't believe I BROKE it! - OneXPlayer AMD 5700U Version
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Handheld gaming!
0:10 - Unboxing and overview
2:07 - I/O ports and buttons impressions
3:15 - Specs
4:00 - Ergonomics impressions
4:20 - Display thoughts
4:49 - Weight impressions
5:10 - Blacklight bleed
5:33 - Gaming and resolution impressions
6:43 - Cooling fan noise
7:00 - Display and performance comparison
8:00 - Sponsor - iFixit!
8:31 - Kickstand impressions
9:00 - Battery specs and thoughts
9:35 - Component placement
10:41 - OneXPlayer specific custom buttons
11:54 - Continued gaming impressions
12:20 - I broke it
12:35 - Final thoughts
14:02 - Tough decisions
@ShortCircuit 2 жыл бұрын
Note: Linus mistakenly states that the 5700U processor is a Zen 3 processor; it's actually a Zen 2. Sorry for the mix-up!
@ztechrepairs 2 жыл бұрын
Rookie lol
@whatistruth_1 2 жыл бұрын
5000 series = zen 2 for some reason. Thanks amd
@RedditTop10 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 calls micro sd card slot micro usb
@kiwimonster3647 2 жыл бұрын
Ah good to know, I already thought all of my knowledge about Ryzen 5000 mobile was wrong
@Zoyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatistruth_1 - Only the U versions of the 5000 series are Zen 2. All other 5000 series chips use Zen 3.
@Mopantsu 2 жыл бұрын
Linus: I can't believe I broke it. Everyone: I can.
@KingLarbear 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOO
@KingLarbear 2 жыл бұрын
Wow these bots won't stop
@fatlessauto3 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it's not butter
@BarryMahcockiner 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even break it, just didn't seat the trigger properly when reassembling. Bit of a clickbaity title :/
@confusedemoji4317 2 жыл бұрын
Damn bots sure believe
@spartanu9268 2 жыл бұрын
Man PC handhelds have really come far
@harryshuman9637 2 жыл бұрын
Bots sure do like you man.
@En-bv8ns 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, bots straight up have the big bad nono word and KZfaq let's them stay. And well, yeah handles I feel like are going to be something really common in some years maybe as much as some consoles
@makemyday9366 2 жыл бұрын
so does mobile phones.
@idkanymore3382 2 жыл бұрын
ok captain obvious
@PinkieIn 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean in price, right?
@why_though 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get anything done because LMG releases like 24 hours of content every 24h
@salmanbehen4384 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh.... These bots
@howardlam6181 2 жыл бұрын
@@salmanbehen4384 lol youtube algorithm have a hard time learning all the new variations lol they are playing cat and mouse at this point.
@Gizmos_and_stuff 2 жыл бұрын
Nah they release 48 hours a day
@ty_teynium 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but that's only AFTER the 24th hour! Leaving only twenty three hours! Plenty of time! To think about what content LMG will put up next!
@RoshanSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
As would Linus say:"LMG mounted and loaded... with today's sponsor..."
@dragon2knight 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking a LOT of stuff today, eh? From servers to game machines, you are a one man wrecking crew Linus 🙃
@superslimanoniem4712 2 жыл бұрын
Report these bots guys
@dragon2knight 2 жыл бұрын
@@superslimanoniem4712 Please!! This is annoying!
@Moon_Presence 2 жыл бұрын
*wrecking .....
@dragon2knight 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moon_Presence You're right, of course, but I'm too lazy to edit it 🤣 (or not...)
@darryljack6612 2 жыл бұрын
remember when he broke Andy's bed too
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the handhelds coming, more competition is great to see. And yeah, no surprise that Linus broke it. Also, I’m pretty sure you meant to say microSD rather than microUSB.
@KingLarbear 2 жыл бұрын
Damn bots, no worries Linus we will report them out of existence
@theone-swta 2 жыл бұрын
Good call, they are everywhere. 😠
@KingLarbear 2 жыл бұрын
@@amystery5238 I feel like they do, but I feel like somehow they keep evading the algorithms, it is wild, but I can't wait until the bots start reporting each other lol
@David_Quinn_Photography 2 жыл бұрын
I am stoked to see this market over the next couple of years, I would much rather have one of these over a laptop if they continue to get better.
@tipoomaster 2 жыл бұрын
Remember how long we were stuck on dual cores for laptops and Intel was kinda like bah you don't need more, and then eventually we got quads only for bigger systems, and then in a whirr we can get 8 cores in a handheld like this?? Thanks competition, thanks AMD.
@yksnidog 2 жыл бұрын
The competition is also within the good sales of the Nintendo Switch. Before all people had been kinda Nah you don't need mobile you have consoles and/or PC...
@simonlehmair9491 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like we need a full LTT video on all the best portable gaming system options once the steam deck has arrived. I'm kinda losing track of all the different manufacturers and models 😅
@DarthLeopard 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. I'm sure that this is already in their planners, I bet they have a LOT lined up for Steam Deck. I feel like a final comparison would be silly to not include.
@toiletfx5679 2 жыл бұрын
if it ever arrives xd
@DarthLeopard 2 жыл бұрын
@@toiletfx5679 we're in Q1, when they're due to release the first batch. No delays or announcements on anything of the sort by now is promising.
@demonguard 2 жыл бұрын
The steam deck is head and shoulders above the rest on APU power so far. I'm an AYA owner but fully intend to upgrade to the deck once I get to the front of the line.
@kiwimonster3647 2 жыл бұрын
@@demonguard Until the new 6000 series mobile apus get implemented 😁
@sloth7d526 2 жыл бұрын
This thing costs $1400. You'd be absolutely crazy to buy something like this unless you're hardcore on handheld systems and rich.
@Pennycilin3 2 жыл бұрын
Quite of an expensive price to pay for portability, eh?
@modermonkula 2 жыл бұрын
$1400 ?? Holy shit
@funmaster4632 2 жыл бұрын
Yea just imagine when you wear out the joystick. I sure it is fixable but seems kind of crazy.
@sloth7d526 2 жыл бұрын
@@funmaster4632 yeah that would just suck. I never understood why handheld systems never implemented a software deadzone for joysticks. If it starts drifting you can increase the deadzone with software and effectively remove drifting. Emulators have had this option for years now idk why it hasn't become mainstream. They could literally implement this in a week
@sloth7d526 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pennycilin3 yeah just like laptops, both are ridiculously overpriced in the high end, there's no value for the average gamer
@steggs69 2 жыл бұрын
These handhelds will get genuinely good with the 6800U models with RDNA2.
@RandomPlaceHolderName 2 жыл бұрын
Quite but I suspect the 6800u, much like the 5800u, will be nearly impossible to order at a decent price and these handhelds, to keep their margins, will have to make do with the crippled 6600u or increase the prices of these already expensive devices. Neither of which are particularly appealing when compared to a steamdeck.
@blue4059 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, too expensive and power hungry for a handheld. Would be surprised if even the best Ultrabooks can handle it.
@blue4059 2 жыл бұрын
@@Android-ng1wn 6800U would pull close to 30W on battery, whereas Steam Deck will use a 9W cTDP set to 7-10W. They are different class of APUs.
@blue4059 2 жыл бұрын
@Mac : Steam Deck is using *U9* - a custom 9 watt cTDP chip from AMD codenamed "Dragon Crest". 6800U is *U28* - a 28 watt stock TDP OEM chip named "Rembrandt" that in reality goes up to 50 watts regularly when using both the CPU and iGPU, like playing games. A 8 inch handheld won't be able to cool 50W, or last very long on battery.
@blue4059 2 жыл бұрын
@@Android-ng1wn @Mac : Dragon Crest is Zen 2, a completely different architecture, node, cache, power limit, and gpu capacity compared to Rembrandt which is Zen 3+. Former is designed for tablets and the latter is for 13"+ sized laptops.
@SRC267 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Intel version of this device. I only have a couple of minor issues but nothing bad.
@rajgill7576 2 жыл бұрын
Is the resolution ever a problem? It's higher than 1080p but, especially with Intel, the integrated graphics are mid spec at best. The ryzen would play better I assume
@tenow 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajgill7576 800p is an integer scale of 1600p. Most recent games run great at 800p
@Sauv_27 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why i wanna buy but i want to xD
@SRC267 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajgill7576 I run all my games at 800p 1280x800 half the native screen resolution and it looks great. You gain performance and it's not an issue or anything, it's better this way as you gain frames per second.
@aryankohli1968 2 жыл бұрын
Can you play warzone ?
@WardDallas 2 жыл бұрын
I love how all the handheld manufacturers are trying to get these units out before the gabe deck hits.
@JS-kb4bk 2 жыл бұрын
Steam Deck isn't going to have much stock for awhile so it's not a big concern. By the time it does, these devices will blow the Deck away in power with the 6800U models
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 жыл бұрын
@@JS-kb4bk I doubt it’ll make much difference with sales, they’ll still be more than double the price of the Deck
@FiddyBee 2 жыл бұрын
and no one is gonna buy them, cuz they are literally 1300-1400 dollars products while the steamdeck with similar, if not better performance is around 600. I understand these companies can't price their products anywhere near the steamdeck, but then again, that's not our fault, the vast majority of consumers will look at these and a steamdeck and when they see the price difference they are gonna yeet these ones 300 miles away and jump in the store brawl for the last steamdeck on the shelves at msrp.
@tams805 2 жыл бұрын
They've been making these for a few years now. Them releasing now models, at the start of the year no less, is hardly some reaction to a delayed first gen product (seriously, you can't just change dates like that on such short notice). And as Linus repeatedly says: most people are not going to be among the first to get Steam Decks, and people who now want one are not going to get one any time soon.
@tams805 2 жыл бұрын
@@FiddyBee People are and will buy them. Are now, because there is no Steam Deck to buy. Will, because for most people there still won't be Steam Decks to buy. And by late this year, these devices will have 6000 series chips and be better.
@rohitkharche7562 2 жыл бұрын
I think this kind of handheld gaming thing's will be much more powerful when they have 6000 series api with rdna 2 graphics, cause those graphs shown by amd wasn't supposed to be wrong 😶
@SimonBauer7 2 жыл бұрын
yea id wait for the 6000 series with rdna2
@nayyarrashid4661 2 жыл бұрын
Holding out for 6800U.
@louiesatterwhite3885 2 жыл бұрын
@@nayyarrashid4661 6950U*
@_TheElMan 2 жыл бұрын
The price will be interesting as the Steam Deck is so cheap. An 8 core RDNA2 will be more, but how much more?
@johnbuscher 2 жыл бұрын
@@_TheElMan Valve is eating a lot of the cost on that though. But if we could get a good model for about $1000, that’s a solid “premium” option if people want to pay for it.
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, the odd numbered 5000 series Ryzen U and H are actually rebranded 4000 series. Yes a 5700u is better than a 4700u, but thats only because the 5700u us quite literally the 4800u Note the G line of desktop processors are not included in this for some reason, its a shame, i would have loved a $200 5500G thats really a 4650G without AMD PSB
@elijah_9392 2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
Only 5500u and 5700u are zen2, others are zen3
@HouseOfBard 2 жыл бұрын
5700u is is faster and has faster graphics then 4800u
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
@@HouseOfBard It is the same processor, with slight frequency bump, 100Mhz on the core(2%), and 150Mhz on the GPU(8%) They are both Zen2 parts with no change other than the slight overclock 8 cores 16 threads, and 8 CUs 5800u on the other hand is not Zen2, but Zen3 has an extra 100Mhz on the CPU and GPU over the 5700u. Because it is Zen3, it is about 10-20% faster CPU at the same clock speed, meaning it is close to 13-23% faster with the better IPC, and core clocks. While the GPU is only faster than the 5700u by 5%, it does overclock better if the BIOS allows. If all you care about is GPU performance then yea its not that different, but CPU performance is closer to the 5600u than 5800u I have a 4750GE, and a 5700G, both with their GPUs at 2000Mhz and the GPU performance difference is hardly noticable. though the motherboard for the 5700G allows me to OC to 2300Mhz and run RAM at 4933CL17, and with this OC it is vastly superior, closer to a GTX1050 2GB than the Vega8 in the 4750GE
@HardWhereHero 2 жыл бұрын
I can't stomach paying "enthusiast desktop PC prices" for a handheld non upgradeable PC. I think Valve knew this when they made the steam deck. I cant wait for it...
@JimIBobIJones 2 жыл бұрын
I think one big problem with these devices are that they are spec'd to combos of standard CPU/I-GPU packages. To keep both price and heat down, you want to get an entry level CPU but want the highest performing I-GPU, but you can't pick and choose because it comes integrated from Intel/AMD. The steam deck has them all beat, because its packing RDNA 2 graphics whilst having just a "good enough" cpu. This not only lowers price, but beats the more expensive competition on both performance (stronger GPU matters a lot more than CPU) and cooling.
@roqeyt3566 2 жыл бұрын
This, untill AMD releases something like the steam deck's APU, and lpddr5 becomes widely available, Valve cannot be beat These handhelds with higher end CPUs are more suited to RTS and productivity than general gaming
@JimIBobIJones 2 жыл бұрын
@@roqeyt3566 AMD has always had the ability to develop custom silicone for customers (think Xbox and PlayStation) but they will only do so for very large customers with equally large orders. But they aren't ever going to do so for a tiny niche product. I do think alternatives to steam deck will become more competitive on value as rdna 2 becomes standard on APUs, but that's assuming that valve doesn't release a "gen 2" device of its own with better specs.
@defeqel6537 2 жыл бұрын
@@roqeyt3566 LPDDR5 is widely available, but no idea whether the APU (Van Gogh) in Steam Deck is available for others (some rumors say it will be)
@roqeyt3566 2 жыл бұрын
@@defeqel6537 you're right on lpddr5 being widely available, just haven't seen any APUs fit with it I do hope AMD releases similar products for OEMS though, next gen 6-8 cores with a similar graphical architecture would be nice
@roqeyt3566 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimIBobIJones AMD in the past has been like that for sure Not sure if Lisa Su will continue doing that when they feel comfortable enough with their market share and financial situation. Old FX days AMD was shite, almost drove them to bankruptcy, the main question will be if they'll stick to the big markets when they've settled in again
@Batgame_1 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that the charging icon on one of the usb 3.2 ports is for pass trough charging, so you can charge your phone for instance even is the pc is turned of
@tonkahanah5890 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well the SteamOS would operate on these other devices. it would be cool to see it become the standard for devices like this.
@datpudding5338 2 жыл бұрын
Ye would be a great deal for standardization and therefore compatibility and availability! I'm curious how these devices and the general competition will evolve
@nolankanski9116 2 жыл бұрын
I really wonder about how that goes though, I'd imagine some of the companies behind these wouldn't be too happy to use their main competitor's operating system.
@datpudding5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@nolankanski9116 could turn out like with google and Android. Everyone making their own versions based upon the original and the original has it's own product. Edit: And since steam is quite the market the competitors could offer their devices with "guaranteed steam client compatibility" but other ergonomics, designs and/or specs and therefore pushing their own brands with a big name on a big market while valve profits from more games getting made for SteamOS and therefore more compatibility which again leads to more potential customers and so on
@fenixtek 2 жыл бұрын
there will probably more exclusivity when epic and microsoft make similar OS for their games with certain systems locked with a OS
@Djr2699 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what steam want ms
@Kamakazy0789 2 жыл бұрын
i picked up a onexplayer from the indigogo over the summer. the i7 model. 6 months later and its still a great machine
@cdgames69 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there was no correction when Linus called the Micro SD a Micro USB. The editors are usually pretty good at catching that
@jdoe834 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting a Steam Deck, but the one thing I like about these other devices is definitely the screen. Not so much for gaming, but rather for when I watch stuff. The device's use as a mobile media player is important to me.
@Dan-Simms 2 жыл бұрын
Looks sick, pretty crazy good performance in a handheld. Although I kinda think they should have just stuck with native 1080p, that's good enough for that size of screen to get even better performance.
@STR82DVD 2 жыл бұрын
Great review lad! The end made me laugh. I own the OneXplayer i7 1195g7. I love the unit and honestly I noticed very little video driver compatibility issues with any of my over 100 AAA games on Steam. Mind you, I'm running Windows 11 with the very latest iteration of the Intel Xe drivers. That certainly played a part in increased stability.
@comedylongpantsgamer3608 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look, Linus can't believe his natural ability to break every single piece of hardware with just a single touch...
@pgplaysvidya 2 жыл бұрын
okay update i bought this because i simply couldn't be bothered waiting on the steamdeck plus the "1440p" ish screen was a great selling point. Installed retroarch and poked around a few games. Amazing stuff! There is a warning i've heard that some windows updates might mess up the controller buttons, forcing you to have to wipe and restart everything. that's not good. Suggest that you install something like anydesk or teamviewer so you can control the device remotely in case this happens. Also maybe pause windows updates a month at a time (it let me pause it for 5 weeks) once you have everything set up. So as long as you have good AV, or you don't do anything dumb (get AV) there's no reason for a driver update or windows system update. So happy with the purchase. It is pretty heavy and enormous though! wow
@Painewalker 2 жыл бұрын
Love the LTT colors
@xxzmk 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how these things will perform once they have their ryzen 6000 mobile with RDNA 2
@rassular 2 жыл бұрын
Itll be amazing
@william41017 2 жыл бұрын
Better, I wager
@ablet85 2 жыл бұрын
The RDNA 2 and DDR5 memory pairing is going to be a game changer in handhelds and ultra lights.
@mawkzin 2 жыл бұрын
I expect a double in raw GPU power, I hope Aya release another X600 version like the original with 4600U.
@basshead. 2 жыл бұрын
Still worse than the gtx970 from 2014.
@Balgoriusis 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy that these handhelds are getting more powerful then my desktop.
@fredwaywalls4686 2 жыл бұрын
@Dobbies Revenge its a typo jeez🙄
@blastu2fool 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredwaywalls4686we got teachers in here correcting shiT 🤣
@fredwaywalls4686 2 жыл бұрын
@@blastu2fool ikr
@SimplyMavAgain 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember purchasing one of the early Intel XE laptops after hearing Linus excitedly talking about the future of small form factor performance. But the drivers, man. They sure are doing their thing. What a shame. Feeling a slight tinge, for not having waited for AMD's response. But that's the ever evolving tech industry for you, right?
@Victor-kh5rh 2 жыл бұрын
RDNA2 based systems are about to be released, anything running vega graphics is ancient now.
@HarvestLYlee 2 жыл бұрын
I like that flesh tone watch strip and sides, it makes the watch look like its coming out your skin, very Cyberpunk.
@SaschaB2B 2 жыл бұрын
7:38 he's using it in power saving fan mode. (Option above the resolutions) This leaves a lot of power on the table
@ashar8192 2 жыл бұрын
He admitted that and changed it right after lol
@SaschaB2B 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashar8192 No, only changed the TDP from power saving into High. But leaves the fan mode still on power saving. Again, there is also a toggle right above the resolutions to change that. And the difference is huge. Sure it gets louder but oh boy does it run smoother
@ashar8192 2 жыл бұрын
@@SaschaB2B oh didn't know that! Intel Xe is indeed a very powerful architecture, but bottlenecked by Intel's bad drivers
@wile123456 2 жыл бұрын
Make a custom resolution profile in Radeon settings at 800p and then turn on integer scaling as well, and you get pixel perfect squares at half the resolution of native.
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
This
@piotrgrzonkowski9220 2 жыл бұрын
Quarter resolution*
@santyagobustamante7369 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the downgrade from a 5800 to a 5700 is a pretty massive one, going from Zen2 to Zen3 was a massive jump both in mobile and desktop so its kinda sad that they didnt use the 5800 for that massive price, that alone is a no go for me
@leonro 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly cpu cores shouldn't make much of a difference when the gpu will most likely be the bottleneck. However, it is still quite disappointing because the 5800u has higher gpu clocks too, and, as you said, it's not cheap either.
@santyagobustamante7369 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonro i agree with you, if it was 200 bucks less would be ok, but its almost 100 dollars more than an already quite expensive device
@andrewd3899 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonro also i feel like the efficiency of Zen 3 might give the GPU more power/thermal headroom? So it would've been a good boost all around
@datpudding5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewd3899 Ye, would be taking advantage of the beefy cooling more effectively
@leonro 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewd3899 I'm not sure how much more efficient Zen 3 is, but it won't be running at full capacity due to gpu bottleneck so it's more negligible than in typical use cases. Also, they're both 7nm, so I don't believe the normal efficiency deficit to have been much in the first place (maybe 10% at most), so adding a gpu working at 100% would make this a 3-4% difference at best in power consumption.
@ShaniAce 2 жыл бұрын
11:29 A button to switch between game and desktop controls?! 😍 That's ingenious!
@kakashisan4072 2 жыл бұрын
This is getting crazier and I freaking love it!!
@marcin_karwinski 2 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder how long will it take for these to get the Ryzen 6k treatments as the iGPU with RDNA2 and 6nm node might be keys to great performance on such devices ;)
@marvin8291 2 жыл бұрын
so hyped für LTT getting the Steam Deck soon!
@tantonodavid7324 2 жыл бұрын
LTT already visited valve hq and played the steam deck for a while
@segacat1 2 жыл бұрын
It's OK Linus. I did the same thing (messed up the left trigger) when I upgraded to a 4 TB SSD. It was easy to fix, but also realized that I had a loose battery cable! Only my second computer that I took apart to upgrade, but it's a beaaaaa - utiful device. Also thinking about buying an Aya Neo.
@erica.3852 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same feeling I got from the 2021 version of the Zephyrus G14 to the 2022 CES Version
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
7:27 In addition to the extra cooling, one thing that Ryzen APUs really love is memory frequency. My 5700G runs close to a GTX 1050 2GB in several games with 4933CL17 RAM, but that is with a 400Mhz (20%) overclock on the GPU, and the 1050 2GB is probably being held back by only 2GB of VRAM, where as the 5700G can use all 16GB however it chooses
@louiesatterwhite3885 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh, what ram kit did you manually oc to that monster?
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
@@louiesatterwhite3885 Patriot Viper Steel 4400C19, 2 different kits Worked both on an Asrock B550 phantom gaming itx and asus rox strix b550i gaming AC. Got close to 4800CL19 on some B450 boards but mostly limited to 4400-4200 especially if it wasnt an ITX board, even B550 ATX struggled above 4400
@user-wq5fz5pp2h 2 жыл бұрын
I will personally wait til ryzen 6000 version will be out. RDNA2 will be huge for this market!
@slicey80 2 жыл бұрын
Every normal thought is telling me to get the Aya neo next, but that giant gaming beast keeps calling my name..but lordy even with my large handbag, that's a weapon to carry around
@vickie_g 2 жыл бұрын
A Ryzen 6000 series version of this would be incredible. With the RDNA 2 intergated GPU, it'll be great for modern games too.
@Voltaic_Fire 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really impressed, I have a laptop (that's currently dead) and a backup desktop but I still want one.
@hyramortiz5167 2 жыл бұрын
Wdym by “dead” , exactly
@mickolesmana5899 2 жыл бұрын
It is nice seeing handheld PC become a thing, hopefully Steam OS can be compactible using non stemdeck controller layout. many hardware can benefit from that OS, and of course preventing Steamdeck monopoly. cmiiw Steamdeck is opensource right?
@boredplayer7425 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its open source and Valves planning on releasing Steam OS as its own standalone operating system, so theres no real reason Handheld PCs couldnt use it.
@gragogflying-anvil3605 2 жыл бұрын
SteamOS is open source (needs to be when released), but the Deck itself is not (in terms of hardware I guess).
@FaridRudiansyah 2 жыл бұрын
@@gragogflying-anvil3605 steamOS already released to Public years before steamDeck, as a Freeware because it ship with Steam Client (game launcher), but some part what i know is open source.
@gotoastal 2 жыл бұрын
You could save $100-150 by not shipping Windows too. Steam wants you to use the Store... the device is just a way to deliver that library on the go (shame you can't just use Steam library games on Android)
@aladdin8623 2 жыл бұрын
@@gotoastal That's due to android devices being based on arm primarily. If android smartphone chips got a rosetta 2 x86 isa translation layer like apple's m1 has, then android users may play pc games from steam on their smartphones eventually.
@lucasv1308 2 жыл бұрын
Since there’s a bunch of these handheld computers out and available now, can we please get a roundup video of all of them compared. Hard to keep it all straight through all the videos.
@chomp7927 2 жыл бұрын
the tolerance on the shoulder is very tight when putting it back together, that's a common issue if you open it, had it happen to mine too. You can pry the case just a ... thin blonde one.. to get it back in position without opening it
@phattacorider 2 жыл бұрын
The desktop button, I think it depends on what program you're engaged in. When I'm playing resident evil 2 & 3 remakes I can't get away from those games at all without quitting through the menus. I can't even adjust the volume. I've yet to try ctrl+alt+del, but I think some games just won't let you go back to the desktop, maybe it's a steam thing.
@FaridRudiansyah 2 жыл бұрын
I think because of "full borderless window" Try alt+enter to make it windowed (works on some games) and then Win+D
@phattacorider 2 жыл бұрын
@@FaridRudiansyah thank you. That sounds very possible. When playing I'm unable to bring up the on-screen keyboard. However, I do have the magnetic folding keyboard. I'll have to use alt+enter when needed, which isn't common unless I have to turn the volume down or up.
@peekaboo6168 2 жыл бұрын
Still not worth it compared to the Steam Deck. Too expensive and lacks the nice touchpads that will make native PC games without controller support much more comfy to play.
@NigelMelanisticSmith 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Steam Deck will succeed due to price alone imo, it's just a nice bonus that Valve also has RDNA 2 and twice as many input methods lol
@TheThirdPrice 2 жыл бұрын
I agree in principle, but competition is ALWAYS better! Definitely looking forward to the steam deck
@snowzZzZz 2 жыл бұрын
steam deck has faster memory speeds too I believe which should help ryzen, plus the lower resolution screen while worse looking should help with performance. If you want to watch movies on the go, better off going with an ipad mini, a laptop, your phone, or something like that.
@ghostlegit 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the steam deck has Linux installed
@drtauntsalot 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostlegit From what I understand you can install Windows on it if you like. However, if you're just using it for playing games, and if your games are properly supported (which Valve is working pretty hard on) it doesn't have to change your experience.
@ThailandDantotherescue 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only one I'm considering after I get my steam deck. Hopefully these will flood the used market as newer versions are released.
@sbrader97 2 жыл бұрын
Best bet would be to run games at lower res if needed and enable ris in the driver to help bring back some sharpness
@lifehackertips 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be glad when these reach mainstream so prices drop to reasonable levels. Sucks paying $1,000+ for what would be closer to $500 in a full sized laptop.
@TheKeyboardBeatz 2 жыл бұрын
500$ for a laptop that can run Forza 5? Why even bother buying a next gen console if you can get portability and power for the same price, also pirating games. So, desktop power would be even less money? I botched by buying a series s then.
@johnnyk3917 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they could’ve done more emulator tests on things like these
@prodigy455 2 жыл бұрын
Both intel and AMD work great for emulation, i have the intel model and use it for switch, original xbox, gamecube and PS3
@williambecton8833 2 жыл бұрын
@@prodigy455 Is U Using Yuzu For Switch Emulation?
@prodigy455 2 жыл бұрын
@@williambecton8833 yea, only have a few games installed but all work fine but as always zelda botw can chug at times
@williambecton8833 2 жыл бұрын
@@prodigy455 good for you I can't get any games to work on it 😩
@prodigy455 2 жыл бұрын
@@williambecton8833 youve got your key files added? and the latest drivers?
@sadjesse 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that the future of LAN parties with handheld gaming computers like this would be a cool thing. Everyone would be more flexibel and they all support dongle for ethernet and power course. Only thing is that everyone would have to play controller games, not m/k. But I think it's very cool
@TheRealLurtz 2 жыл бұрын
I preordered my steam deck all the way back in July I’m sooooo stoked
@alexusman 2 жыл бұрын
5700u is literally rebranded 4800u with only difference being 1750->1900mhz igpu. Wish it had a zen3 5600u, it would be much more balanced.
@aaronmackenzie1605 2 жыл бұрын
Need a little help I have an old laptop with gtx 1050 2gb is it worth me getting this?
@amogusamogus8490 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmackenzie1605 no
@Chriss120 2 жыл бұрын
2:27 micro usb? i think not.
@Mr.Morden 2 жыл бұрын
It's micro USB but without the U and B plus upgraded with a D on the end.
@benjikrafter 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the chance for very portable pcvr and the low cost, I’m waiting for the steam deck and am very excited when it comes out. Love seeing all the other options though, and ready to have my choice changed any day.
@0Aberration 2 жыл бұрын
8:28 Love Linus imitating Jayz' iFixit ad
@why_though 2 жыл бұрын
How does this have a larger battery than my 15.6 inch laptop from 2020...
@ashar8192 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I'm furious right now lmao
@taung9535 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not how batteries ratings work
@why_though 2 жыл бұрын
@@taung9535 Yes it is, what I'm saying is that my laptop is way bigger than this little thing, yet HP only managed to put a smaller battery in... realistically probably due to cost cutting.
@taung9535 2 жыл бұрын
@@why_though what’s the size of your laptop battery?
@BobSentell 2 жыл бұрын
Can we give Nintendo credit for making the form factor work? These things will obviously run circles around a Switch but the Switch definitely laid the ground work for these devices.
@labrat001 2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how the Steam Deck compares to all the current generation of handhelds.
@KatJillianne 2 жыл бұрын
My heart can't handle the way he grabs those thumbsticks to pick it up... 0:07
@saurabhdamde1999 2 жыл бұрын
I think 5700U is Zen2 and 5800U is Zen3...
@ShortCircuit 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, we already had a pin comment about the mix-up
@isaiahbriggs2093 2 жыл бұрын
i would be willing to pay for somethin more powerful or better quality than the steam deck i most likely wouldn't unless it has the features of the new steam controller gyro aim and trackpads are a must
@sekazi 2 жыл бұрын
The screen on the Aya looks so much better when side by side.
@AI-Idiot 2 жыл бұрын
Linus: *tests performance and capabilities* Windows: I suppose you would like to A C T I V A T E M E
@wickersticks 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for Steam Deck!! Stuck in quarter 2 though ;-;
@technewb8241 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. People will be waiting for their reservations into next year
@tormaid42 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see someone put low end dedicated GPUs in one of these
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see that as well, but probably there will be thermal issues
@uzzi3822 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to a Ryzen 6000 series CPU when that shows up you'll need a 35W low end GPU to compete most likely. That would neuter battery life so hard it's not worth it.
@tormaid42 2 жыл бұрын
A 7w ultra low power cpu and a ~35w class dedicated GPU wouldn’t be far off their current power usage and I think could be faster in a lot of games.
@uzzi3822 2 жыл бұрын
@@tormaid42 The GPD Win Max is the handheld with the highest power draw and it ships at 28W for the CPU maximum. What you're suggesting is a maximum of 42W. That's an extra 50% power consumption. In the case of a standard 47WHr battery for these handhelds, you'd get less than a single hour of gaming (the screen and other components also use about 7W). So no, still neutering battery life.
@Kohen20 2 жыл бұрын
The music towards the end of the video is sunset drive by future joust
@KaizerKaine 2 жыл бұрын
A cool use case would be to try to use it in a dual pc stream setup. Not sure if it would be any good, but interesting nonetheless!
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
13:56 assuming the memory is running at the same speed, the steamdeck's 8 RDNA2 CUs running at only 1.6Ghz, will likely only slightly beat out the Vega 8 running at 2.0-2.1Ghz. But, this lower frequency and voltage should mean a significant reduction in power draw If my old 5700XT is anything to go by, where going from 2Ghz down to 1.6Ghz dropped almost 100w of power going to 138w down from 225w. Then again, this is RDNA2, not RDNA1 like the -5700G- 5700XT, and 2Ghz is an (auto)overclock for that card
@Anon3000- 2 жыл бұрын
The steam deck will have LPDDR5 5500 MT/s, so I expect considerably better GPU performance.
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anon3000- I have DDR4 4933 CL17 on my 5700G, but thats running at 2.3Ghz. Like, yea, its way better than the normal 3200MT/s, but part of the reason this does so much better than 4266 LPDDR4x is because of the CL17 VS normally CL30. But clock for clock RDNA2 is ~20-30% faster than VegaII, however, the steamdeck is running at a 25% clock deficite over a 5800u. Now what i'm hoping is that, because RDNA2 often runs to 2.6Ghz, that the 1.6Ghz is just a battery saver mode, but we cant assume it will be getting a higher speed mode, so for now, only slightly better than a 5800u/5700g with good RAM
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 жыл бұрын
The 5700G has a Vega iGPU.
@denvera1g1 2 жыл бұрын
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Correct, VegaII(based on the Radeon VII). And Yes, my point was that my 5700G, as well as the 5800u-4800u should have a faster GPU that the steamdeck because of the very low clock frequencies of the steamdeck. With this ~100USD kit of RAM (overclocked to 4933 CL17) 73GBps this RAM is on par with DDR5 5600CL40 (74GBps according to MSI), which is faster than the supposed speed of the steamdeck. This is all assuming that 1600Mhz is the fastest speed of the Steamdeck GPU, if there are turbo frequencies to 2Ghz, it would be ~25% faster than the VegaII 8 in the 5700G-5800u-4800u. If Valve/AMD wanted to, this GPU could easily hit 2600Mhz, but it would probably use 30-38w at this frequency. Personally, i'd love a turbo mode, even if it required you to be pluged into a charger. That speed should be good enough for nearly all 2019 and older games at 1080p medium or higher. With things like Forza horizon 5 maybe hitting 60FPS average at 1080p medium high mix. At 1.6Ghz, memory speed doesnt mean as much as if it were to hit 2.6Ghz
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 жыл бұрын
@@denvera1g1 we'll have to see what people make of it, there's a lot more going on with the Deck than the hardware.
@Dream_Boy2580 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it knowing you 😂
@pickitupgolf276 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Gamegear making a comeback
@wasabinator 2 жыл бұрын
Ayaneo next looks so sweet
@ApocalypseGuy1 2 жыл бұрын
$1400 for this thing? With Steam Deck coming in a month for $400? I genuinely wonder what kind of audience they're even targetting with this price-to-performance.
@GloomGaiGar Жыл бұрын
Do you have a Steamdeck yet? It's been 5 months.
@theownmages 2 жыл бұрын
I want this with thunderbolt. That way it's my gaming machine on the go, and my 4k gaming station when i dock it at home
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 2 жыл бұрын
There's a handheld with thunderbolt, but it's the Intel version not the amd one
@DemoniteBL 7 ай бұрын
If it had rear buttons and the sticks where symmetrical, I'd legit consider getting this.
@andredi3595 Жыл бұрын
Still lovin my GPD Win 3!! Will only upgrade with an AMD model once they get rdna 2/3 in these handhelds
@joetate87 2 жыл бұрын
"Where my plugs at?" Would have been a perfect Segway to a sponsor or a lttstore drop
@zombiegun71 2 жыл бұрын
Got my Steam Deck reserved back in July…can’t order it till after Q2…so excited c but damn it’s so far away 😭
@mawkzin 2 жыл бұрын
So Ayaneo Next review is coming sooner than I thought
@this_is_japes7409 2 жыл бұрын
you guys' title game is on point.
@2Syndras1Cup 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 ... busy? Bro that thing is going to die in a city race, that's a nope from me right there. I have high hopes for newer models in the future tho.
@hlimpuiabawlchhim2132 2 жыл бұрын
being a last gen console player, consistent 50-60fps is a great thing.... i cant wait to try it
@sandrahiltz 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something, all these comparisons to the Aya Neo Next, but I don't recall Linus even reviewing that one, just the older Aya Neo Pro from last year that he reviewed this month.
@estylegreesye4384 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing watching this video.
@ShortCircuit 2 жыл бұрын
That video will be coming out within a couple of weeks.
@bosqueblanco3744 2 жыл бұрын
BRO !! please do a thorough hard core comparison / test / review once once the steam deck comes out with all three devices . -please come up with some test to show how well they do things other than gamming. -also please go head to head playing some halo/csgo online multiplayer in a match together with all 3 devices
@ayjays132 2 жыл бұрын
You guy should have a game tournament
@ImranHelmi501 2 жыл бұрын
Damn can't wait to see the 6000 series APUs
@matheuswohl 2 жыл бұрын
9:53 running an 8TB ssd on one of these is such a Linus thing to do
@jasssedine 2 жыл бұрын
all those handhelds just make me more hyped for the Steam Deck. End of February !!! :)
@JM-dq7xn 2 жыл бұрын
These make me want my Deck already...
@danielwoodland9576 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh the switch/Nintendo has some serious composition now with all thies handheld devices.
@uzzi3822 2 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 6000 series in handhelds soon plz. Seriously, I want RDNA2 in one of these higher performance devices so badly
@MaxMichel89 2 жыл бұрын
So when is ltt starting a Side Channel, in which a Person Just repairs the stuff they (mostly Linus) Break all the time? Also a nice Movel 4right2repair.
@Theslayeer3 2 жыл бұрын
has Linus ever tried to make his own? i would love a tutorial on how to put my graphics card into a handheld, if that's even possible? :)
@itsdeonlol 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see Linus review The Steam Deck!!!
@Chipmunkboy 2 жыл бұрын
10:45 I think the buttons not working is just a DOOM Eternal thing, DOOM doesn't let me open the start menu when I'm in game and when using ALT + TAB it shows a more basic menu rather than the standard Windows 11 menu.
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I backed the Odin, with gamestreaming... I don't see much of a use for this, at that price, for that size.
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