A true hero!

I like to get the average gameplay experience. Getting carried would be super boring imo.

@@CiderSpider Ehm, akshually, if you still get the clear, with a full group fo world class players, you carried your own weight!!!1!1!!

tbh with that suffering, he earn the fruit of last minute 1st week seventh circle clear!

yes! exactly this!.. going in with 1st timers is a huge difference and a totally different experience! (than getting carried with 7 orher, who have cleared it multiple times) ... sure, occasionally, when you're starting to burn out in a zillion trap kill parties, having one or two with kill experience can be welcomed, .. but that should be the exception (if at all.. , and not getting carried by 7 pros,... its like if beating every Dark Souls boss, with summoned players, that know the boss by heart.., the struggle, experience and earned kill feeling are not the same..)

This tier is definitely harder than last tier. Except for maybe P3S.

@@Null_Experis whole tier wasn't hard, only 8s was the real hard one.

@@chaoseater999 P5S was hard for the first two weeks due to conflicting partyfinder strats, P6S was hard for the first 4 weeks due to conflicting strats and people not being able to do copacabana or trying to cheese it with LB3 and still getting 4-6 damage downs. P7S is hard because you need to stay awake for 4-5 minutes before the actual fight begins.

@@Null_Experis P7S's actual mechanics are at the final third of the fight so when you wipe there with pf people will be reluctant to continue due to """wasting time""". P3S was its own goddamn tier, I sincerely belive the developers forgot that they were still at the first tier. And it's masochistic to do P8S without a predetermined group.

@@Null_Experis Put PF in and everything is hard. Cleared 5s on launch with 14 deaths. 6s with 11 deaths. 7s within a few weeks u just start skipping half the bs coz its so backloaded. 8s was legit the only hard fight in the whole tier. But if u compare with PF, then yeah, PF was stuck on devour prog for all 5s kill parties for weeks

The 99% experience.

me except i got wep on my first clear 😈

@@pyn_rae Got chest on first clear

This is why I quit lmao

@@infamousincubus2888 Yea the gearing is utter dog in this game, made me quit aswell last tier. This one I got lucky and got the coffer and week later chest so I stayed. But if I would've gotten nothing I wouldn't play anymore either

PFing is just rolling the dice to see which mechanic you're gonna get walled on

Honestly SE should've made 6s and 7s harder. It's not enough of a wall and now we have people that think they're pro raiders trapping everyone in Snake 1 parties

As someone who has progged and cleared this both in PF on an alt AND in a static: Less team work, more precision. I don't need to have met any of my party mates before to clear this fight. But this fight has a very large number of 8/8 mechanics, by which I mean all 8 people need to be alive and executing their part of the mech correctly or there's a wipe/so many deaths or damage downs it's difficult to recover. If every person makes 1 mistake every 8 pulls and you're unlucky enough for your "good" runs to just never align, you basically never clear. This fight is where you come to the realization that a 90% personal accuracy rate actually isn't all that good. The fight is hard, and PF struggles, no question, but it struggles in the _exact same way_ that the average casual static struggles Contrast to say, P3S, where PF experience was noticeably worse than a static experience, in large part because of the number of spreads. In a static, you get used how each member of the party moves and where they tend to go. In PF, you can't do that, and PF is _extremely_ bad at yolo spreading. The joke was that PF strat was basically "pray for stack". It wasn't really a joke because that was how the majority of my clears were obtained, just getting a run that was mostly stacks instead of spreads.

I did this fight week 2 with my static, and we've cleared it together every week up until 2 resets ago. I decided to head into PF to try my hand and played a harrowing game of Russian roulette. It took me 5 straight days of 4hr playtime windows JUST in p8 to finally clear. This fight specifically is an ABSOLUTE nightmare in PF.

@@Quasar359 hell I thought devour did a good job keeping the baddies out, I think p5 is harder than 6 and 7

that feeling when you wipe on dominion coz someone cant count towers

Im at dominion in pf it's crushing.

For me it was p4s, after that I vowed to never do the 4th raid of any tier raid ever again. Tried p8s a few times and it was mind numbingly bad so I just do 5-7 every week. I really wish I could do p8s but I have not the time nor the patience anymore. The only 4th raid I ever did was e12s when it was relevant (joined the game during ShB), I had so much fun on pf but idk I feel like Endwalker just plagued us with very bad raiders who are not considerate at all of people's time. With a savage this bad I dread to think how ultimates fare.

@@anthonyandrade5071 E12S was certainly worse than P4S atleast by my experience. Kind of like P8S every mechanic in E12 was a PF wall

I honestly find some fun people in pf so I enjoy it tbh but it can be time consuming and sometimes you won’t get that one and done clear. But that’s something you have to accept if you do PF. When you’re working full time and have loads of other duties outside of work but still want to try the savage fights, PF might be your only chance.

bruuuuh you clearly didn't experience the e8s when it was released at it's time, p8s is a cake compared to what refulgence savage was. And i'am not even gonna fo further back into alexander savage raids

Rpr bubble is so op and its so nice

Unfortuntely reapers are dumb. Understandable since they have the most braindead melee rotation 🤗

@@dadkwashere ah yes and all of us definitely pick what class we want to play based on what some sweaty tryhard on the internet is going to declare as having a "big brain rotation"

@@Venessialato To be fair, I've met quite a few players that when starting out the game ask "ok, so whats the easiest job to play". That's not all of them but a decent chunk. Like I remember in Shb pf, the people that sucked the most at mechanics were a lot of the time physical ranged cause they were considered to be easy beginner jobs.

@@dadkwashere unless you're DRG or MNK, all other melee classes are similarly easy. RPR is just the easiest to learn.

agreed. somehow your guide is better than the guide guides :P

Hector Lectures, P8S: "So here, you're going to watch Cider Spider's meme video...."

To be honest i was laughing and then stale face into taken notes. Now I don't wipe to snakes and dog.

Not to down you or anything, but mount ordeals is very low difficulty for an extreme, if you want a harder one and MORE FUN do barbariccia and u'll see how fun it is and how bad mount ordeal is

@@grimacetexas9719 I feel barbariccia is way easier than rubicante.

@@LordRobaZe i feel like barbariccia is more honest, you have more leeway and error margin, but she's so much more fun and engaging, rubicante is super easy and there are little mechanics. Barba is not hard, but she's more fun imo

@@grimacetexas9719 I feel rubicantes mechanics are more confusing and hard to grasp. I still cant understand the wheel attack at all, brain doesnt go that fast.

@@LordRobaZe but u can just put a dorito on someone head and have him do half the fight for the whole party.

Same, I cleared p5-p7 week 1 and then stopped playing the game due to uni. Came back last week and the PF has transformed from helpful and competent groups to 4K planet of the apes premieres

I took a month off after the first few weeks because the DPS check had most groups walled in phase 1. Turned out to be a mistake lol

it's worse than previous tier

At least theres no P3S

Hang in there friend. Persistence is the key.

@@LittleSparklingStars The first half of the last fight is worse than the previous tier. The 2nd half is a joke in comparison, and far easier to deal with.

congrats

And yet , Halone and Menphina still wipes half the little adventurers in there. Feelsbad

To be fair, Euphrosyne is easy even if you don't do Savage... I mean, one of Halone *and* Menphina's major mechanics is "doing two attacks simultaneously and only creating one safe pizza slice," which is something everybody's already done on the *first* boss in Malikah's Well.

@@InfamousResult I think you're assuming the average person is much better then they really are.

Still get whop-arsed by Halone, thank you very much.

@@InfamousResult You must be thinking of Qitana Ravel. Malikah's 1st boss is the armadillo thing and I don't think that guy has any pizza slice mechanics.

Yeah, that part was a little poorly worded cause I was thinking of a specific example from very early prog where the MT would die before the OT had stance on, which would lead to the melee getting tankbusted. It used to happen constantly back in week 2 lol

congrats

I think you might just be hungry

I have the mental fortitude of a healer.

@@CiderSpider that's the chaddest of the gigachads. My apologies for making the wrong statement.

how long did it take you?

@@celcius_87 uhh about 2 weeks? I started on about week 3 of the tier, but by week 4 i had a medical thing happen so i was out till like the end if October and cleared about a week once I got back to it.