I Cracked $50,000 in Slabs to Try to Make $100,000💰Here’s What Happened….

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Жыл бұрын

An insane PSA-BGS Grading crossover experiment! Geoff takes $50,000 worth of slabs, cracks them open, resubmits them and reveals the grades.
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@SportsCardInvestor Жыл бұрын

Try our discount grading service: www.sportscardinvestor.com/grading

@2UGamingProductions Жыл бұрын

We did a video on alot of grading companies cases being in water for 5 hours and the Landry. Watch it before you select your grading company.

@timhackman9488 Жыл бұрын

This video was one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen. Definitely showed my what I wondered many many times about crossovers. Thanks and I’ll definitely check out your website to get some of mine graded for the first time

@robertaustin5244 Жыл бұрын

I'd have the Tua autographed at a private signing and PSA auto the grade only and go from there.

@theshecktheeich Жыл бұрын

Do you accept non sports cards such as Pokemon or Magic to be submitted through grading through your bulk grading service?

@FortyBreaks Жыл бұрын

@@former5-0trustjesuschrist57 but you're just randomly making that assumption. You have no idea.

@jonathanchancey3908 Жыл бұрын

I typically soak the slab in diesel fuel and light it on fire....once I feel like the slab is melted down to the actual card, I use a fire extinguisher to put it out. Then I pull the card out and use turtle wax to clean it with a soft brillo pad. Once cleaned, I submit the card to HGA and typically receive a Gem Mint grade. But that is just me.

@brianarmstrong2482 Жыл бұрын

lololololol

@stevenswancoat1150 Жыл бұрын

Thats a lie, HGA doesnt give out any Gem Mint grades.

@warriorwarehouse206 Жыл бұрын

one of the funniest takes I've read anywhere. I can't stop freaking laughing 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣..... thank you for making my day!

@staytight6340 Жыл бұрын

Omg you so funny😮

@MATTAVELLIE 11 ай бұрын

I pee on mine

@lifter1091 Жыл бұрын

What's interesting here is that Geoff was able to contact PSA about why his card was graded a certain way (15:33 mark), but us normal folks can't get an explanation of grades from PSA at all. PSA says they don't have that information, but clearly they do.

@leefeegreenz 11 ай бұрын

It's called clout. It's just the way it is and will always be. Life isn't fair.

@L3GENDZLuLKeK 11 ай бұрын

All companies cater to KZfaqrs. It's annoying but with all the eyes focused on KZfaq that's how it goes

@titusremy5268 8 ай бұрын

If you have a very expensive card or coin grading company's 100% respond faster i have a top pop ancient gold coin literally the only one graded in the world and they responded so fast.

@OutsideDuhBox Жыл бұрын

Use a thinner flathead, AND ALWAYS crack with GLOVES EYEWEAR and put the slab INSIDE a ziplock bag when cracking!

@FortyBreaks Жыл бұрын

All very good advice

@tranceman14 Жыл бұрын

Doug is a wild man! Some country boys just don't learn til they lose an eye!

@2UGamingProductions Жыл бұрын

I'd just us a drill a small hole then pry with a eye glass screwdriver and use like a crowbar it comes off easy

@OutsideDuhBox Жыл бұрын

@Clint Clinty that might work as well

@toddkelly5466 Жыл бұрын

All the grading companies say their grading is all subjective, the problem is these are mostly new hires with no experience

@deep3reviews Жыл бұрын

Yep agreed new hires who have never seen certain cards as well which makes it way worse

@themandalorian400 Жыл бұрын

@@deep3reviews This is why you have to have a senior grader whose been grading for years... preferably over a decade. double check the grade before it is sent back to the customer. I don't know about PSA, BGS, or CSG, but as stated by SGC's president Peter to Geoff in that behind-the-scenes videos SGC does have a pair of 15+ year "veterans" double checking all the cards before they are sent back. It's not a perfect system but eliminates some of the subjectiveness of only having one person with potentially little experience.

@joshc5625 Жыл бұрын

The problem IS that grading is subjective. If there was a science to it, each grading company would give the same grade for the same card.

@MainStreamRegimeDemocrats Жыл бұрын

No, they must give expensive cards to experienced guys, that's just common sense

@elee712 Жыл бұрын

The money they make and the value of these cards should justify paying graders more, but they would need to go through some extensive training.

@4nine522 Жыл бұрын

I think PSA needs to create a new grading category outside of “Trimmed”. If a card is for sure trimmed then label it as a trimmed card. If they think it was mis cut or under sized from panini/Topps/UD/Leaf or whoever but not trimmed then it should be labeled as such and just just labeled as trimmed. Trimmed comes with a stigma of the card being altered which I think pushes buyers away for sure. A must cut or undersized label would not be a harsh in my opinion.

@CryptoChef99 Жыл бұрын

It would be great if they could blast the companies on the back for bad off centers or anything else. Like " Severe off-center done by panini quality control " "Holo foil cut short by Topps quality control" & keep a database on it. To show how many cards we all get are way past what they charge.

@stop....hammertime Жыл бұрын

You ever get a card and it was too big? I got a Waddle that won't even fit in a one touch, cause it's a bit too tall. Panini cut it horribly

@joeshmoe2746 11 ай бұрын

@@CryptoChef99lol thats what makes mint cards have value though its luck of the draw. Would be kinda lame if everyone had perfect cards wouldn't it

@meanbean_9080 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I'm sure we all appreciate not having to wait months to see the results

@thecrossupcollector Жыл бұрын

Great episode guys, loved seeing the the whole process and getting the results too 👏🏻

@GoldenStateTrades Жыл бұрын

“What it means” is that PSA can’t tell with 100% certainty if a card is trimmed or not. That’s a problem. They got fooled on some 2021 nfl contenders autos and it went public and now they’re just throwing out that cards are “trimmed” it’s bs. We should expect more from the “top” company that we pay the most for fees and wait the longest for turnaround times.

@genesmith3582 Жыл бұрын

problem is with a monopoly, they don't care. They have all the market share they could want.

@glyn420 Жыл бұрын

Beckett is awful at determining if cards are trimmed awful.

@TJJulkowski Жыл бұрын

Hold on. Why would you “trim” a card unless you were trying to cheat? Any card undersized by manufacturer, or purchased is “altered”. That is the price honest collectors pay for the cheaters. Any altered card is simply not worth grading.

@SwanseaGCOCK Жыл бұрын

SGC all the way.

@zebraallday8332 Жыл бұрын

Simple fix. ..all collectors dump psa and use the best grading company SGC. Collectors that have been collecting long than 4 years know this. Even if a card is graded I still examine the card. If expensive enough then with my loupe.i care about the condition of the card. Not what some 3rd party guy says. I have my own set of eyes. All you need is magnifying glass and black light n loupe

@polishdanny7474 Жыл бұрын

Wild I just thought about if you uploaded. And new video came up lol. Thanks for the content bro!

@JP-hz7wl Жыл бұрын

Great video guys! Thanks for not making us wait to see the grades!

@jimbaker5110 Жыл бұрын

This was a great video. It had all the ingredients in it to make it watchable - drama, intrigue, plot twist and a happy ending.

@seanmacklin2948 Жыл бұрын

Great video I loved it!

@jnycards5478 Жыл бұрын

That video was so much fun! That's for the great content!

@ilovepie2727 Жыл бұрын

Definitely exciting to see, you should do more of these if possible

@louiestanley300 Жыл бұрын

Great video Loved it!!

@thesportscardkid7530 Жыл бұрын

I'm always waiting for your videos to come out

@OriginsOfSmith Жыл бұрын

Very cool idea for a video. Love this type of stuff

@anthonyiannone8766 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic show! All guts Paisano; God Bless! Keep up the great work, truly enjoy watching your videos. Of course, you have cost me a fortune bringing me back into the arena. LOL

@King_JappyJoe Жыл бұрын

Best Sports cards video I have seen in a while

@jdaboss49ers28 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video I enjoyed it how you showed the whole process have to do more like this thanks

@michaelrusso6822 Жыл бұрын

Glad you got back the 9.5 on the Tiger Woods, but for some reason the once "10" auto is now a "9", and the surface grade is now a half point lower. That, along with the Soto coming back at a 9... just shows how grading process can be subjective. It kind of makes you wonder how accurate the multi-stage grading process really is, and if in some cases you just have to get lucky... and have the right graders on the right days.

@booner1252 Жыл бұрын

fr. I am new to cards and i have no idea why everyone gives these companies so much money. at the end of the day it comes down to one person's choice lol

@mrshorty4313 Жыл бұрын

Its a flawed system but if buyers are willing to pay extra for a highly graded card then cardholders will continue to pay these grading companies for their subjective grades. Also once a card gets graded, it doesnt mean the card stays that grade but people still take the slab grade on its face value. And if PSA doesnt give subgrades, why are they most favoured than other grading companies? I have plenty of high end cards but still havent decided if I'll be a sheep and grade them like everyone else

@alecbest5236 Жыл бұрын

Oh, you definitely have to get lucky…

@SwanseaGCOCK Жыл бұрын

@@mrshorty4313 Agreed I feel like SGC is more consistent. CSG is on it's way too.

@SportsCardInvestor Жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn’t notice the drop in the auto grade until after. You are right though.

@mambasportscards9447 Жыл бұрын

This is your ONE OF YOUR BEST VIDEOS TO DATE!!!

@sandravankley1845 Жыл бұрын

Love your channel keep it up

@lawofficesofbokharismithwa1906 Жыл бұрын

This was amazing ! Could watch this all day.

@SH-os1ck Жыл бұрын

The fact you can do that tells you how fucked card grading is. It's damn near a scan or criminal.

@KMK623 Жыл бұрын

Very true, especially when you advertise this practice, it opens a can of worms in my opinion, you wanna to keep submitting until u can deceive the grading companies so you can deceive the future buyer 😂. My eyes do all the grading I need anyways, if people want to pay way more because it says PSA 10 even though the card looks like the same as a PSA 9 or PSA8 or even raw, then that’s on them. Getting magnify glasses out is too extreme, I get it for vintage cards when people didn’t take care of them and whatnot, you wanna check for fakes or coloring, shit like that, but these days it goes from pack to top loader not to binder or bike spokes 😂

@sarahandbrettSCAM Жыл бұрын

Yea its a joke

@elee712 Жыл бұрын

@@KMK623 grading the card really has nothing to do with the grade of the card. Like you said , there could be no difference between an 8, 9 or 10. If you never plan on selling, it probably doesn't matter to you. But say in 10 years you do, that 10 will theoretically make that card increase in value at a larger percentage than an 8 or 9. It depends on the card of course. I'm with you in that this crossing over of cards back and forth hurts the hobby unless there was a way of actually tracking this. There's cards that have higher pops than actual cards produced...

@tch1724 Жыл бұрын

Agreed... Possible survivorship bias. Only those making profit are more likely to share the story.

@sarahandbrettSCAM Жыл бұрын

@@KMK623 paul you nailed it 🙌🙌

@albertosaldana1225 Жыл бұрын

Great video man

@TOPGLOBALFY Жыл бұрын

Thank You Mr. Geoff for the knowledge *hats off*

@owenallsup Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video

@mattsbaseballcardbreaks5952 Жыл бұрын

Great video!! Thoroughly enjoyed this one. 😉👍

@genesmith3582 Жыл бұрын

Incompetence is running sky high right now with PSA graders so anything is possible -- which is what everyone who's paying attention has seen lately.

@gothamcollections1038 Жыл бұрын

What a fantastic video!! Great job!!

@gary_jones_11 Жыл бұрын

Awesome episode, Jeff!

@cardmasters-whererippinislivin 10 ай бұрын

awesome video! tough luck on the soto!

@boxalarmtrading Жыл бұрын

Very cool experiment here, thanks for sharing!

@wannabtrucker9634 Жыл бұрын

If you crack, you should be able to send the old graded label in so it can be taken out of the pop count. Cracking its over saturating the pop counts.

@quintonwood532 Жыл бұрын

AGREED!!!

@laknicks Жыл бұрын

Pop report is a scam in itself PSA uses it to control values

@nick6.0wen Жыл бұрын

They already do that.

@subzero4524 Жыл бұрын

Great point👍👍

@ngwalker00 Жыл бұрын

If you send in the label, they will remove it from the pop count.

@billp6605 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy seeing the results of crossover videos. The one thing I can’t understand is why people are still using screwdrivers and jamming them into the case. A painters 5-in-1 tool works much better. The wide blade can be used as leverage to easily pop the case open without risk of jamming the tool into the area of the card.

@JoshHallUtah Жыл бұрын

Awesome episode my friend!

@cdubsbreaks Жыл бұрын

Nice love your channel

@lag9 Жыл бұрын

Your best video yet. More please

@TheRealWarez Жыл бұрын

Now this is content. Thanks!

@cmacuf Жыл бұрын

amazing video!

@NicoSportscards Жыл бұрын

Awesome segment

@DevilDog0351 Жыл бұрын

Love this kind of vlogs. 👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@aca_collects Жыл бұрын

What an episode!

@danielhicks1682 Жыл бұрын

Awesome episode

@LazyTelevison Жыл бұрын

This is really cool! :)

@OMGstillfaded503 Жыл бұрын

So moral of the story is to not crack and resubmit 🤣

@jharris7685 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@scotiasneakers1064 Жыл бұрын

For the future I do recommend using the snips on both of the top corners. It makes it much easier to separate🙏🏼

@FortyBreaks Жыл бұрын

Solid advice.

@jacobsherman4398 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@jacobsherman4398 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos!

@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY Жыл бұрын

This is fun!

@Jesusistheway8 11 ай бұрын

@joshuasmith6386 Жыл бұрын

Poor Doug 🤣 well done sir!

@baileydouberley8365 Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t this really mess with the pop count? For a sports card investor I feel like this drops the value of the cards because now technically you have 2 9.5 bgs woods cards

@tranceman14 Жыл бұрын

yep, pop count can never be accurate with all these crossover attemps. it's all smoke and mirrors at this point.

@brianadams6204 Жыл бұрын

It sure does POP counts are so far off that you should not even care about them unless it's a low numbered card.

@HereForAStorm Жыл бұрын

I heard once that if you send the labels back to PSA they will remove the card from the pop. No clue if that's true or not.

@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly Жыл бұрын

@@HereForAStorm true

@Ozhull Жыл бұрын

Never rely on pop counts, it's ridiculous to do so. So many people resubmit

@ljpfeif Жыл бұрын

This was a great video!

@thereverendripps1733 Жыл бұрын

The size thing with PSA is ridiculous now. I had a similar situation, but not a big card. They have far too many new graders with no experience. Just sad and why I have pulled back from PSA.

@williammal2166 Жыл бұрын

i use beckett

@kyleveld4225 Жыл бұрын

The anxiety lol awesome episode

@cincybearcats1 Жыл бұрын

Have not watched yet, but absolutely love the idea!

@dadandsonchasincards Жыл бұрын

This video hands down was our favorite.

@CliffRouse Жыл бұрын

This is why grading is a sham.

@Kupalking Жыл бұрын

Great content

@SpursCards21 Жыл бұрын

Nice to see what happens with some big cards trying to get crossed. Crossed a Trae Young Blue velocity rookie BGS 9 to a PSA10. Centering had an 8.5 and all other subs were 9.5. Thanks for sharing!

@scottjohnston2799 Жыл бұрын

yea just shows as i’ve seen many cards the past few years centering is a joke to psa

@eurostar0711 Жыл бұрын

@@scottjohnston2799 PSA is the grading company for flippers and "investors"

@scottjohnston2799 Жыл бұрын

@@eurostar0711 to an extent collectors still like a psa slab

@kly1994 Жыл бұрын

Psa all the way!!!!

@SleepyJoesDiaper Жыл бұрын

The one that comes to mind is a Dak field level sliver RC. It was graded BGS 9. I offered the guy $450 for it but he declined in favor of eBay auction. I won the auction for $240. I cracked the slab and crossed it to a PSA 10.

@nickdurrum8628 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Amazing!

@jeanclaudevandarnitall Жыл бұрын

Awesome Ovechkin, congrats!

@skipthebase Жыл бұрын

Great idea for a video…I’ve always wanted to try this

@theworshippost Жыл бұрын

My heart was beating! lol so nervous for you all

@adamconnelly6995 Жыл бұрын

I love how you did it in takes

@TheChroniclesofChristian Жыл бұрын

I love your videos so much

@in2rock275 11 ай бұрын

Always think it's funny when an autograph gets graded. "You didn't sign your name well enough so we're giving you a 9."

@sliqqbill7582 Жыл бұрын

awesome, i've always wondered how this type of scenario would play out

@tranceman14 Жыл бұрын

this shows grading is def not a science or they are changing their standards all the time or damaging the cards. kinda shocking for sure!

@ricecakejohnson Жыл бұрын

Instead of a flat head screw driver, I use a decent size pocket knife(its thinner then the flat head). Also, I am too scared to crack BGS 9.5s because you never know with PSA what grade they will give a card.

@jessieurgea9899 Жыл бұрын

The thing is that a pocket knife is smaller and would need more force to pop the Slab..I myself like that size screwdriver but with a more flathead....

@ja1720 Жыл бұрын

I go around the edges with a bottle opener to break the seal. It’s a lot more easy and safe to pry open

@troyspartan95 Жыл бұрын

That cracks me up every time you you show the card he takes a deep breath lol

@Truthseeker1-uq6wc 4 ай бұрын

great video

@06TLforlife Жыл бұрын

Can you do this with the same card and get it graded at PSA, BGS, CSG, and SGC? Would be interesting to see how different the same card gets graded by different companies.

@cardgirl2890 Жыл бұрын

And then over again to each company to prove that a different grader at the same company will give a different score.

@cardgirl2890 Жыл бұрын

And then over again to each company to prove that a different grader at the same company will give a different score.

@Juuq Жыл бұрын

You gotta do this again was hella entertaining

@tranceman14 Жыл бұрын

Eye opening for sure and entertaining at Geoff''s expense.

@tranceman14 Жыл бұрын

would be interesting to see how PSA and BGS responds to this enlightening video. don't think they will be too happy with it. way to shake things up and maybe improve their inconsistencies! BGS seems to be all over the place with that Soto.

@jorgerubio3993 Жыл бұрын

Wow one of the best shows I have seen so far. Lol

@lonkylaine Жыл бұрын

I don't know why you are so happy with the tiger woods back with a 9.5 (with a 9 sub) and auto 9 when you had a true 9.5 with auto 10. And the auto 9 label is heavily damaged lol.

@SportsCardInvestor Жыл бұрын

It’s better than the alternative! I didn’t notice it was an auto 9 at that moment. That does stink.

@sp123 Жыл бұрын

I like how they converted some PSA cards to BGS and BGS to PSA

@bentonpotts5967 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@festerespisito9356 Жыл бұрын

I watch all ur vids...this may be my fav. Please do more vids on this subject matter...although u dont hav to do such expensive cards, lol.

@brosisandcatandmom1789 Жыл бұрын

i love your channel i watch you all the time i wish i could go to the national but i am from Wisconsin so its to far but sometimes i watch your channel so much that i watch them over and over i even watch some other channels with you in them because i run out of your videos to watch i talk to my friends all the time about you but i am 9

@spic0li Жыл бұрын

Nice to see the Tiger come back a 9.5 but they dinged the auto grade one notch down to 9 from 10.

@SportsCardInvestor Жыл бұрын

Yeah I didn’t notice that at the time but you’re right they did :(

@spic0li Жыл бұрын

@@SportsCardInvestor yes that part was unfortunate as it looked to have a very crisp autograph but kudos to you overall for doing this high end crossover experiment & great job on the OV it still has alot of room for growth as he will be breaking some records to come.

@TrueBlueCollectibles Жыл бұрын

Early on the grades show some good consitency between the two companies when it comes to the grades. That Soto just shows how PSA is 10 or bust a lot of times. Subgrades do matter.

@uwetetzlaff8967 Жыл бұрын

Good luck!

@polkcountyboxbreaks Жыл бұрын

How much did the grading fees eat into your profit? Also, not sure if it was addressed, but why did BGS drop the Tiger auto grade at the end?

@bryanphipps1909 Жыл бұрын

Really cool nice video

@marcogomes9748 Жыл бұрын

Amazing video

@jacobsevers293 Жыл бұрын

Great vid! Just cracked a curry topps rookie psa 7 and sent it to bgs hoping to get an 8.5

@SportsCardInvestor Жыл бұрын

I hope it works!

@Nebwiffleball1 Жыл бұрын

Goodluck let us know what it gets

@Hoochly Жыл бұрын

The absolute randomness of this at these price points is insane.

@SportsCardsUK Жыл бұрын

Congrats at the end with the first card!!

@mikeywestside8509 Жыл бұрын

Let that be a lesson to stop being so greedy and leave it the way it is

@Bnguyen276 Жыл бұрын

I use Burt’s card care wax to clean my cards. It takes the grime and dirt off. You can see the dirt removal on the microfiber cloth. Brings a good shine back to the card.

@robertb186 Жыл бұрын

Regraded a Brady black refractor from BGS said was altered. Took it to the show in Vegas and grader said its a nine. Came back PSA 9. Does effect pop reports especially on numbered cards. Was happy with result. Thinking of regrading HGAs now that are 9.5.

@rodriguezchen Жыл бұрын

BGS is more consistent with their grading in my opinion, cuz they show you the sub-grades

@DennisMangual Жыл бұрын

Super tans episode loved every minute of it

@johnterry4987 Жыл бұрын

Safety glasses. LOL!

@peterhamouroudis7467 Жыл бұрын

I had a successful crossover at the national! Bought 2 of Reeds PSA altered no holder 86 fleers Jordan’s. One got a preGraded SGC 6. The other Authentic Altered. Win!