I did this last year, I only cut my 567 down to 8, at first it feels and looks funny with the loft and shortness of the club but once you hit it dead straight and still have the same distance and height you’ll forget how funny it seems at first. People seem to think taking a half in or 1 in of a iron is going to make some huge change in distance. It really doesn’t. 2 in 3 inches off sure that could with a driver would. I’ve been happy with my irons since, always pushed them to the right. Now I go green hunting 200 yards out. When the cobras came out last year I just couldn’t wrap my mind around wanting a longer 89p, I hit those clubs very well and didn’t want to give them up. So I figured I’d just chop my 5&6&7 down and see how it fared, I did not have gapping issues and the still had the same ball height. I gained a lot more control which gave me a lot more confidence.

At the end of last season I had my 5 & 6 irons cut to the 7 iron length. I left the 8 & 9 as standard. My PW,Gap and SW are all the same length. This setup suited my game and I suggest everyone looks at their own requirements and abilities. I'm off 11.8 and I'm more consistent with the longer irons due to the change, so not dissimilar.

Finally someone trying what I have thought Cobra should do with the one length in the long irons only!

i've been using a set for about 6 months like this. i had a custom set of clubs built half one length (one length 3 and 4 hybrids and in the long irons 5,6,7) and standard length (in the short irons 8,9 pw 50 54 58) and it has worked wonders for me. I was always very strong in my short irons and wedges - so i didn't want to change that. but i never used to be able to hit long irons at all. now i regularly spend large amounts of range time hitting shots with my 5 iron. its so consistent for me on the course as well. i think you will love this set

I love the idea of the combo set. This is what I should have done last year when I finally upgraded my clubs. I thought about the one length quite a bit, but couldn't come to grips with longer 8,9 or just 9 iron into wedges. Anything 7 iron on back being one length makes TOTAL SENSE.

I did the same thing and it has just been the best! I still does understand how this is not a normal option.

I had already done this with my clubs this spring (2021) and I love it. My shorter irons required no change and my longer irons easier to hit It works....cheer

I’ve been thinking about doing this for awhile now, you confirmed my bias. Everyone I’ve talked to thinks I’m crazy, LOL. I just can’t hit my longer irons/hybrids, though. Thanks for posting this!

I did this years ago. It took me a while to get used to it but after a while my distance came back and I was more consistant with hitting the ball correctly. It worked for me.

I have been playing Cobra F9 SL irons for 12 months now ( 5 -GW), and before that I used second hand F7 SL irons. It takes time to adjust to the club flights. The F9 5 iron flies higher than the F7 version and the GW in the F9 seems lower than the F7. The wedge has a high flight, but it is not a huge problem in windy conditions where I live ( south coast OZ) , and the balls stops well on the green. My Cobras are steel shafted. The main issue I found when trying to decide on changing to SL irons was that it was difficult to find a set to trial on the course. Hitting a few in a shop is useless. Buying a full set is a leap of faith if you haven't trialed them , and an expensive exercise if you buy new Stirling or Cobra SL clubs. Recently I found an alternative SL club maker in OZ who makes a good product. I bought a 6 -LW ( excluding SW/ had a spare 56) of the SL-7 clubs and had graphite shafts fitted. Strangely I found the 7 iron length LW a useful around the green! They work well and cost about $60 US each. I have no financial interest in Milford Golf. www.milfordgolf.com.au Shorter shaft length in long irons possibly make it easier to get more centred strikes, which make up for the loss of the expected swing speed by loss of shaft length, giving little if any loss in distance.

i struggled with my 7 and up irons . in order to hit the 7 i had to use more fwd shat lean or i would hit it fat . i had to open my stance and do a bunch of odd stuff . so one day i decided to grip down on my 7 to the length of my pw and i was striping it 150 it felt like butter . i have only hit it better one time and it went like 180 but i wasnt gripping down . im only 5ft 6 . i have to grip down on hybrids woods and just started to grip down on driver . everything is just so much easier . have just stumbled on this i will keep you posted as to how my game improves . i just shot a 85 the other day and i was in the high 90s !

Great video, "gap me up"! Four years ago in my second year of playing golf at age 66, I cut my Nike shafts 's into three groups and then dropped 26 strokes off my game. Took the long irons down to 38" for the 4,5, and 6 so that they all matched the 6 iron shaft length; and then 37 and a half inches for the five irons 7 thru gap wedge, and then lengthened my three short wedges to 37 inches. Last year I bought a genuine set of new PinHawk Single Lengths in the same three shaft length groups as the Nike's and played in fifteen tournaments at fifteen different courses, winning two, placing third four times, and fourth twice. Not too bad for a short, fat old man. I shot even par yesterday in the first tournament of the year (came in second), at 71 years old. Grouping the single lengths clubs into three shaft lengths has dramatically improved my confidence in controlling the club face during a full swing. This is a great video, offering a positive suggestion on how to improve your golf game. But don't go out and buy a new set of singe lengths clubs; first cut and lengthen an existing set to see if adjusting the shafts to single-length will actually help your ball striking, especially in the three long irons.

Im a huge fan of the Cobra one length king forged !!!! Been playing them for 2 years now and love them!!!!!

i switched to one length irons about 6 months ago, love the shorter long irons, never been so consistent from 200 out. the ideal set is one length 4-9, with normal wedges for me, just don't have the feel I expect with a 7 iron length gap wedge. cheers!

I am so pleased you did this as for a while I wondered what would happen if I did it. I have been considering one length to make longer irons easier as I use several hybrids as I do struggle a bit with longer irons. Also been considering something like the Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo's as I hit hybrid better. Thanks again.👍

i'm glad you did this experiment now bryson dechambeau will be able to use your idea and take himself to the PGA tour.

I’m playing F8 one length irons 6-gw and using the 5 and 3 one length hybrids. It’s been fantastic

I did same as you did, cut my 4, 5 and 6 as same length,just slightly longer than 7 iron, but much easy to hit my 4and 5iron, I used to hate to hit 4iron, but now love it, doesn’t lose distance at all.

What a coincidence!!! I picked up a friend's 2 year old AP2 716's and thought I'd experiment with lengths. I left the 7-AW standard length but cut down the 6 iron by 1/4" and the 4 and 5 by 1/2". They are at the shop getting regripped and I can't wait to hit them now!!! Thanks for this video!

I absolutely love the concept of one length irons, As you know Bobby Jones won all 4 majors in 1930, using one length irons.

That’s a very interesting experiment! I am not a good golfer I played yesterday and ended my round with an honest 95. I picked up golf again this year after a seven year hiatus for school. I bought a set of Pinhawk single length irons last summer and used them a few times I have found that compared to my TaylorMade rac OS my distances are very comparable, with some distances slightly shorter and other clubs slightly longer. Yesterday I had a pin at 176 yards are use my four iron I rolled the ball right up on the edge of the green about 170 yards which is perfect for my four iron. I thought the longer clubs would give me challenges however, I am able to hit my pitching iron through eight iron the lengths and trajectories that I am accustomed to hitting the TaylorMade rac os clubs. It was difficult to become accustomed to the shorter flight but longer roll of the four and five iron but now I have confidence to know that I will hit the ball straight and roll the ball the distance that I typically hit those clubs. I kept my approach wedge by TaylorMade and my sand wedge in the original lengths but I think that moving those two single length would be fine as well. And as I get older it may be more important as I won’t have to bend over as much LOL! I am not successful with Fairway Woods and instead bought a TaylorMade made rack OS graphite shaft 2 iron. I hit it between 195 and 235 dead straight all day long. I’ve always heard that fairway woods are easier to use than long irons I have not found that to be the case for me. If you’re interested in single length Pinhawk irons with upgrade grips and dampening are about $54 apiece that’s a pretty good price. Give it a try...I was pleasantly surprised perhaps someone else will be helped by these thoughts. I had all of mine made at 6 iron length which is my favorite club. By the way, I still use the TaylorMade six iron! I love that club!

I love this idea of the combo set. May tinker with this idea this season

i play 2- lob in my bag...... I'm very confident up yo my 5 iron ... I've thought about cutting 2,3,4, to my 5 iron length this video might have convinced me.... great job on this test

Steve, I had a shop & custom built clubs. Here is an idea I have but have not done it yet. PW-9 same length & lie, 36in. length. 7-8 same length & lie, 37 in., 5-6 same length & lie, 38in., 3-4 iron same length & lie, 39 in. Lie angles progress 1 degree flatter as shaft length increases 1 in. Lies- 64,63,62,61 to start. Only 4 shaft lengths & lie changes. The swing weight would have to be established. If you have a good quality bending machine, golf club measuring gauge, scales & swingweight measuring tool you can do a lot experimenting.

You are correct in that the lofts are different but the 5 iron head would be 7 gram lighter than the 6 and the 4 iron 7 gram lighter than the 5. This potentially means with lighter clubheads you can swing them faster.

Awesome video as usual! The video on cutting down your clubs helped me greatly. Keep up the great work!

I'm going to see an Orka fitter here in Birmingham, he recommended the same..thank you for your videos, ps I have V6 clubs same as you..the fitter advised keeping the same heads.I can't wait to go for the fitting..thank you for the honest Reviews .I'm very grateful to you

I like the one length iron concept but was always skeptical on the longer short irons for touch. This idea of 6 iron length longer irons was brilliant! You have me thinking now Mr. Johnson. Well done and keep up the good work!

I've done this type of idea in a similar but different way. Instead of using PW to 4, I've used Gap to 5 and I've moved the lofts to cover the range that I want to cover - 53 degree in Gap to 22.5 Degree 5 Iron (used the Apex CF-16 last 2 years now just ordered the Mizuno Hot Metal Pros and they are currently being done). The reason I did it this way is that the 5 iron length shaft is the last length that I can consistently hit from a fairway with good accuracy and consistency - and bumping that loft up to a loft between a traditional 4/3 iron gives me that distance 195'ish I'm looking for. All other lofts are chosen to Gap at 15 yards per club - so I have Gap at 110, PW @ 125, 9 @ 140, 8 @ 155, 7 @ 170, 6 @ 185, 5 @ 200. The 5 iron is 38" length. I then use a 4 & 3 hybrids, both cut to 39.5", traditional graphite 3 iron length, to cover the 200 to 230 range - I play the short hybrid at 22.5 degrees and the longer hybrid at 18.5 (I also adjust these hybrids to a slightly upright lie angle to help encourage a natural Draw setup - hitting a fade is always easy but setting these 2 clubs up to naturally draw works for me). The reason I like this approach is that my short hybrid spins at 4500rpms with a decent angle of 45 degrees and the long hybrid spins at 4200rpms with a decent angle of 42 degrees - both far better for control into greens than I can get out of an iron. Great video

Wonderful idea. Solution to the deadly long Irons And 6 Irons is my favourite club

I have Cobra one length and what you found with them is exactly what I have discovered with them. Cheers.

I love this! Every person ive spoke to about one length has said they would love to keep short the same but make long irons one length but no one has done it! I was thinking of doing this myself. I would be putting lead tape on them after though to bring the swing weight back to normal and making sure lie angle was correct. We need to see it tested in different golfers with different handicaps now to seee their results

I play F7 irons all the same length as a standard 9. I started using these last year, and I Love using these irons I will never switch back. I do hit the ball low as that’s the way I like to play. Only thing I wish I would have waited because now cobra has a new one length forged iron blade that Dechambeau is using now.

My wedges are all the same length as my 9 iron...find it easier with distance control...my dad has a cut down 4 iron...with a huge grip...works great...Steve thanks for the videos.

The half Chambeau set of irons. The logical way to go if you have the ball speed to get elevation on the long irons. For us mere mortals Rescues have got to be the way if you can't already flight your 4 iron as high as your 7 iron?? Be good to hear your opinion on that Steve. thanks Neil.

Tried the one length and like you loved the shorter 4,5&6 irons but didn’t like how high the shorter clubs were going than the normal length short iron. Also didn’t like the feel of the longer wedge.Think your onto a good idea here!! Will need to try this out on my old clubs. Keep up the good work, love the videos 👍

Thank you for this video, to me it makes more sense for me to shorten my long irons 3,4,5 to the 6 iron length and leave the others as is

I had the one length but my gapping below a 7 iron was off. Went back to standard length but my try what you did.

Did you change swing weights to adjust for the length change?

My v6’s are only 3 months old, can’t bring myself to do this, I winced as you chopped your clubs 😖. My last set of clubs were wishon sterling irons which I really enjoyed - the high COR heads in the 5,6,7 didn’t sound the best but the full set was 8iron length and they gapped nicely - it was the loft that dedicated the distance, along with a decent strike of course.

There is more to making this work than just cutting down long irons. Technically the shafts in each club should be the same. Most people don’t know or even understand tipping and butt trimming but cutting down a shaft more makes it play softer. That’s why tip trim is more on shorter clubs with parallel. Raw 6 iron shafts into the 5 and 6 would be necessary to do this right. Also there will be a 7 gram discrepancy between heads as you go up. The swing weight of each will be out of line. 4 iron swing weight has to be in the B’s which is not good for consistency. Need to bump up head weights in both. He did state that the lie is not the same but same length same shaft needs to have same lie. He fortunately can bend his. Lastly with long irons commonly having 3 degrees difference in lofts they would need to be bumped further apart. His test with a few shots really does not disprove this. Average person hits 4 iron and 5 iron almost the same distance anyways. It’s why most fit into hybrid long irons. Taking a half from one and an inch from the other is not a good idea for gapping at all. More data would only prove this. Get irons engineered to be one length from the start!!!

You do a fantastic job, Steve! I really enjoy your videos.

Was thinking of doing this.

it makes sense ....hit long irons easier yet keep the feel for hitting other mid and shot irons

With your irons already 1 inch long the 6i would be 38.5" They were probably very heavy in the region of D5 swing weight. Shortening the 5 and 4 probably made them D2 ish if Wilson build them originally to around that d5 weight. The problem comes if someone playing the 6i at 37.5" (std) and d1-2 swingweight then cutting 1/2" off their 5 and 1" off their 4i and the swingweight drops to the C8 range. I like the concept of what you have done but feels the clubs really need to be swing weighted after being altered that much.

Great video mate! I'm thinking of doing exactly the same to get a better strike on long irons.

There was a company that made equal length irons probably 25 years ago. In fact they were called 'Equals" and they were possibly made by Taylor Made but i am not sure of that. In fact i owned a set. They were considered a gimmick back then, so i find it interesting how they are a thing with golf companies now.

I like the idea of just changing the longer irons, I might try it. Does it change swing weight or anything else, maybe lie angle?

Did you see any difference in your spin before and after?

You should try this again with newer clubs as they have corrected the flight pattern with newer models.

very good info. great job... no one ever talks about BOBBY JONES and the old timers when the played with hickory shafts, those clubs were made all the same length in irons. only when they went to steel shafts in the mid 30s i think they made the shafts longer .... i think the wt of the head and where the wt is located on the head also makes a big difference on the height of the ball and the distance.... maybe you might talk about that if you have time.. after all if you can have height coming into the green that should be a big help would it not????

Did u notice a "swing weight" change? Did they feel different regardless of proper gaping?

Very informative and interesting. I’ve been considering building a set of one length irons. One of the things I noticed in my research was that the “one length” heads all have the same weight and lie angle from the 4-sw. Did your irons that you cut down all have the same lie angle to begin with?

Did it feel easier hitting them with the shorter length? I really struggle hitting my 4 and 5 iron and was thinking of shortening them?

you should look into the EDEL SINGLE LENGTH clubs, he built the clubs that Bryson DeChambeau started with through HIGH SCHOOL and collage before he went to COBRA...have a look at his clubs... he has the best shafts and club head... you can change the weight of the club head youself make them lighter or heaver with an ALLEN WRENCH....

The future is three length, one for the wedges thru 9, one for the long irons, the rest at your favorite scoring length... think about it. And don't tell the time traveling guild that I'm here. Big trouble.

My irons are standard to 7 iron. After that I cut them in quarter inch increments instead of the standard half inch. So 6 iron is only a quarter inch longer than my 7 and so on. I feel like I have more control especially on the 4 and 5 irons.

More Awesome work...although you're naturally built for the golf..I found the cobra short irons comfortable

Great vid, new to your channel but you make sense ! Simple ideas delivered. I'm a subscriber now

I have cobra f7. 5,6,7,8,9, one length, 1/2 inch shorter. Thinking about trying my m 4s as you have, Great content, thanks.

IV asked a few stores if they could combo my cobra forged Tec set 4/5/6/7 one length and 8/9/PW standard length and was told cobra made a pack not to do this and it goes against what one length irons are trying to do. However I think it would work much better for a wider audience of golfer. In the mean time we might just have to hack our clubs down.

Dear Coach .. t😎Q t😎Q t😎Q .. for this video (& the others too) I wanted a SL set (ie the F9_SL) but can't afford it, can't afford the F8_SL either. So about a month ago, I managed to buy 3 sticks from the bin (7i_M3, 6i_Aeroburner & 5i_RazorZ all steel shafts) Again, from the bin I managed to get S-Yard graphite shafts, cut them to 36.5 inches & I have been playing very consistent, & I believe I will break 90 soon. I get pure hits & good gapping now. You have justified my beliefs in Single Length clubs. ALSO, the single length clubs is just an additional assistance on top of the EUREKA swing that I am current adopting in my golf .. I am now 58, hcap 20, from Malaysia and very happy golfer. Cheers Coach. p/s + using the current Wilson DuoSoft Vivid( .. rubbery feel) adds to my golf enjoyment.

Didn’t watch all intro so maybe you covered it but changing the length of shaft would change the lie angle and loft possibly depending on how and what you changed .... my question being did you adjust the bounce or find that the bounce was an issue after your changes?

I'm in the process of doing this. My irons are +1 inch and 2 deg upright. Anything longer than my 5 iron I chunk the hell out of.

Brilliant video, I might just try this with my spare irons set.

Hey Steve, thanks for doing this. Did the position of the ball in relation to your feet remain the same as you moved from 6 to 5 to 4 iron during the test?

one length is more than cutting down the shaft. the lie angle should be bent to agree with the length. If you cut the 4 and 3 irons to 5 iron length you should also bend the lie angle the same as the 5 iron. Pinhawk makes a dual length set. The pitching wedge through the 6 iron is one weight, 8 iron length and lie angle. the5, 4 and 3 irons are 5 iron length and lie angle.

your swing speed 4 iron - 92 avg 5 iron - 89 avg 6 iron - 87 avg That would make up for your gapping in these clubs. If they are same length no reason the speeds should be different. too small of a sample size to say anything about that. Your 5 iron with another 3 mph added onto it would take your carry up to around 210 possibly.. which would give you a gapping of 7 yards between the two..

Thanks Steve - interesting idea - is it just for feel because can't see difference between this and simply gripping down on club as does Tommy Fleetwood

Very interesting video, viewer for life after this one. Did you find the lie angle effected ball contact in any way? I’d have though by bringing the club head essentially closer to your body the toe of the club would impact the ground slightly before it’s designed to. Thanks

Good video For fun I cut my ping eye2 1 iron to 5 iron length lol still a toughy to hit but when you middle it lovely penetrating flight

I've read where it changes the swing weight. Any changes to the clubs there?

Maybe you figured out something....4 to 6 the same length, then leave the rest the same length? Try a 3 hybrid a 1/2 inch longer than the 6 iron to see if you get the right gapping! What you are doing makes sense to me. One length should be with the longer clubs. 😀

I thought about doing this with my old Pings but I heard this would mess up the balance.

Hi, cutting down longer irons you need add lead on head to keep same swingweight! Am I wrong? Keep playing, Johnny

Love the idea for the long irons. I play pw gw sw lw at the same length. I would definitely entertain cutting the long irons. Great video

Just wondering if you still playing this same configuration? I'm playing regular length for wedges, PW --> 7 iron and then 6,5 and 4 Hybrid in one length (37 inch) Also, cut down my 3 hybrid to 38.5 inch from 41 Working great for me for now..

But is the set uo different as with one length irons in middle threw out clubs

Can you try it with a 3 iron and 2 iron as well! No one else has and i’m curious

Thanks for the great content

What are your thoughts?! 42.5 inch driver 38.75 inch 2 iron 38.25 inch 3 iron 37.75 inch 4-5-6 37.25 inch 7-8-9-pw 36.75 inch gw-55-59

You going to set the lie and swing weight on the 5 and 4?

I have the T300 and thinking of doing the same since I heard of the cobras one length. But it says the cobras are special weighted for each club

Basically chocking down on your long irons to match mid iron? I'm curious if equalizing the lie would give you a more consistent result? Same repeatable swing for three irons. I'd imagine you'd have to also bend them slightly stronger to compensate.

Definitely need an update. I was about to do this myself and saw this video. Please hurry. LOL

Steve did you do anything to adjust the swingweight after shortening? My understanding is that would make the clubs feel lighter.

For foksakes man. You can't just cut down yoor shafts and expect yoor irons to feel like one length irons. Doesn't work that way. All the heads in a one-length set weigh the same as a seven iron. They then increase the loft in the shorter irons to offset the extra length and decrease the loft in the longer irons to make up for the reduced length. Yoor shorter irons get a higher trajectory, while your lower irons go flatter. When you cut down the shafts without adding weight to your longer irons, you end up reducing swingweight and effectively increasing the stiffness of the iron. The exact opposite with the shorter irons. If you increase their length, you will increase the swingweight and decrease the stiffness. Yoor short irons will feel heavy and whippy and yoor longer irons will feel lighter and stiffer. The actual individual shaft frequency remains the same, but by messing with the lengths, the clubhead/shaft combination frequency will change. That translates into stiffer feeling long irons that will tend to push right (right-handed player) and softer feeling short irons that well tend to hook.

Being an anorak I just wondered if you adjusted the swing weights of the 4 & 5 irons when you shortened them, cheers

Just goes to show unless the manufacturers put mass under the ball in an iron head, the loft jacking is a pure marketing ploy.

Would this work for standard length irons? Yours being an inch longer your now back to standard I'm guessing?

Great idea. So simple

Did you have to add weight to the 4 and 5 iron to get the swing weight the same? Also, did you change the lie angle so all clubs were the same?

Steve, i`ve been using one length for a few months and while I love the shorter 5/6 iron I`m not sure about the short irons, they seem to go short and high, especially in wind. Also I`m 5`5" and struggle to get on with the longer short irons. So, I have a set of Wilson M3 irons and want to try what you have done here but need to know if I have to alter the lie on the irons that have been cut down. I`m very keen to try this but don`t want to ruin a decent set of irons.

Wow this genius.. I wish I could try this without cutting my new irons

Great video,,,, might give this a go,

Would choking up (on the handle, not on the shot) be somewhat equivalent?

You should have hit the iron then cut it then measured it again.

Sorry, did you you adjust the loft accordingly? Or merely cut down the shaft?

Have been playing Single Length Serling Irons for 2 years and was not happy at all with 5 and 6, too short compared to my previous regular set (Taylor Made Bruner 2.0; more powerful). I have now SW-8 irons same length but would also cut my regular 5 and 4 to 6 length...

Why not just choke down on the longer clubs?