I DESTROYED my bow riser AND built a bigger better one!

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3 жыл бұрын

This is my first attempt at making a takedown bow riser. In the process of trying to make this one I destroyed my old one. I had a blast making this bow riser and I got a slightly surprising result! I hope you enjoy!
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@DanSantanaBows 3 жыл бұрын

Another great one Kramer. On the bowyer forum I moderate I’ve seen so many people get into it through your videos. So awesome to see. You’re a huge inspiration, both for bows and videos. Cheers

@thelonerider9693 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I've found is if you are shooting for say, two hours or more, a heavier bow makes your shoulder feel like crud the next day. Always a good idea to have at least one lighter bow. Never thought about making a riser before. Selfbows, yes, a riser? Never occurred to me! That was very cool to watch! and it came out looking so nice!

@bigge6982 3 жыл бұрын

Holy heck man the cinematography has improved so much since the last video!

@paintballercali 3 жыл бұрын

I want to learn how to shoot stuff like he does.

@cdp50359 3 жыл бұрын

Bro, I'd like to see that riser cut past center or just enough to give the arrow a true center shot. Also, if you question your limb bolts. Completely drill thru the riser and use bolt and nuts

@troybailey6754 3 жыл бұрын

literally this is the one bow youtuber I can binge before getting bored I dont know why its just great

@jamescooper2618 3 жыл бұрын

IMO, One of your better vids Kramer. I like when you try something different in building a bow then show us how it works when it is done. Thanks!

@alexsandrawise1344 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for leaving in your mistakes! They are just as informative as your intentional lessons and I find them very endearing. I love your DIY videos so far keep at it! It makes me feel like maybe I could try this?

@jpvoxdawg 3 жыл бұрын

I like the new music choices!

@martinaxford47 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. This is something I've thought about doing but wasn't sure how to start, now I have a much better idea of how to go about it. Thank you

@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын

Nice experiment about pushing the boundaries for the right reasons. I have 3 sets of ILF limbs with 2 strings I just got from you over the last month. My form was pretty good until the last couple of weeks of weather got crappy. Right now I'm converting an old 19" Custom wood riser into ILF. I have a set of limbs that r about 5 pounds less to buildup until the weather warms & I can switch back & forth until I settle on 1 riser. By the way, your Shatterproof glove is a big improvement to those of us that refuse to use a tab. With the button strap u can get the desired fit even if your fingers feel like they r a small in diameter for the glove. Something about that great design that just works 👍.

@Windrider52 3 жыл бұрын

Man, you scared me with this one. I just bought the bow in this video from your recommendation in an earlier video and then see thr riser was "destroyed". I was quite happy to see that it didn't fail on its own.

@goodolfashion 3 жыл бұрын

It's so rare that I watch whole videos nowadays... I can never skip yours when I start ;) ! Always entertaining and surprisingly relaxing watching you work ! Cheers from Canada

@robertmooney1492 3 ай бұрын

Its occured to me that kramer is the consummate professional. While i appreciate the organic nature of other KZfaq bowyers such as clay, dreamcraft, and santana, i also appreciate the slickness of kramers editing skills.

@danzephyr2797 3 жыл бұрын

Another great vid Kramer...Got my first bow 2 days ago, love it, have my 2nd on its way, I think I am hooked. I plan to make my 3rd one, Thanks for your great advice.

@goodolfashion 3 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened here.. first cheap 100$ bow went back to the large surface store a couple days later as I understood I'd be doing this my whole life.. couple months later I shoot a Bear Grizzly with a Kodiak on the way and couldn't be happier :D

@carlhutchens8587 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making these videos. I have learned so much.

@franciscodanconia3551 3 жыл бұрын

I watched on my phone, and I was walking into the kitchen when you said the line about us "taking too long watching" that segment, and I laughed so hard I ran into the dishwasher door, fell into the island, and then bounced into the fridge, and yet none of that could stop the laughter. I don't know why I found it that funny, but I figured you should know how I ended up literally rolling on the kitchen floor laughing and holding my shin.

@goodolfashion 3 жыл бұрын

Eheh that caught me off guard too but I stayed on my feet :P

@troytroyus913 3 жыл бұрын

Fun vid. Bought one of your armguards, its awesome. :)

@sigmanarchery54 3 жыл бұрын

Great job my friend, I to was not expecting it to drop that much take care and God bless 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

@maurolimaok 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is awesome! I hope it grows a lot more. I don't have how to make it here, by now, in Brazil, but wuold like to see some "takedown" stuff of your mind, or those tiny independence bows, in your own design!

@rudamchu 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kramer .. would love to see how fast that lightweight is slinging them arras. Looks pretty zippy for a welterweight.

@roycspary8923 3 жыл бұрын

having had a thing for control line model aircraft in my teens a trick I learnt with balso should help with ply also, form the thread in the wood, soak it well with superglue, let it dry thoroughly, then epoxy in the threaded component.hope this helps

@emcllns 3 жыл бұрын

A master. A hobby is putting together preformed pieces by instruction. An art is passionate and knows what parts are needed with no instruction. Applying one's own flare of design. A master of his or her craft creates even the smallest parts needed for the build and design within a state of focus that can only be felt when you are doing the thing you love most in the world.

@rwlair 2 жыл бұрын

Kramer, for other situations like this when you have “stripped out” a screw or bolt, have you ever tried using helicoil inserts?

@mrnice752 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool video! Your riser looks awesome. A couple of other things about riser geometry determine bow weight as well as length. The limb pocket angle determines how much preload is on the limb, yours look similar or even more deflexed than the 17" riser which makes the draw cycle start softer and works the limb less. Also the throat of your grip looks further forward of the limb pocket pivot point, which accentuates the deflex in the riser. I think it works for these shorter limbs though, it should negate any stacking for you as the limb starts to work later in the draw cycle. Good shooting at the end! Try and remember to bring the arrow to your eye rather than moving your head forward, you can still lean after if you want to cant the bow, but I'd suggest learning to shoot upright first! Check out Tom Clum if you haven't already, man's a legend and awesome teacher. All the best.

@snowflake4233 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for uploading

@pawibuda 3 жыл бұрын

Just started getting back into archery and got my first bow and buying your strings. You make a line of takedown bows and I'm in! Also please don't tell me that was the ghost, I just got it, and saw this.

@lzhang611 2 жыл бұрын

真羡慕你们自己有工作间可以自己动手做喜欢的东西

@rayjohn3946 3 жыл бұрын

Good Job!

@kwatt-engineer796 3 жыл бұрын

great video,as always I learned something new . You should be good using epoxy on the threaded screw barrel. West Marine says their testing shows that epoxied machine screw threads are the strongest way to attach screws to a composite. Just a thought, have you tried using french curves instead of trying to freehand a curve? Transfer punches are a great way to locate the center of a hole on a surface . Have you tried brad point drill bits? they are great for making very clean holes in wood . Also, the point helps in getting the drill bit on the center of the hole. Just my 2 cents worth.

@uncletello 3 жыл бұрын

You should put a funnel on the end of your dust collection hose when using your belt sander.

@wallacev2267 3 жыл бұрын

Good job Kramer, just a little note. Old pallets have good wood to make risers. Your friend WRV

@sprk11 Жыл бұрын

I built a riser. Made it shorter to increase poundage. Also due to some wrist injuries I wanted to put more pressure into my palm and take it out of the web of my thumb. I did run into some fit and finish issues, but I'll fix that in a new riser of the same design

@juanpuentemayer7599 3 жыл бұрын

Hi kramer, im form argentina and i really love yours videos. Congrats and go on!!

@syrenaan252 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job, also grab a 60lbs resistance band and use that to train those back muscles. Even though it's 60lbs it doesn't really feel like that much and strain grows the further its stretched just like a bow. I started with a 35lbs draw weight and now that seems easy after intentionally training with a band myself.

@garrisonh 3 жыл бұрын

cool video! Hey did you change your draw style? It looked like you used the Mediterranean style with the index finger over the arrow. I believe you had been doing the 3 under style before..? Anyway. I always learn something new from each of your videos. Thank You!

@Loth440 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I would suggest is build an adjustable angle drilling jig for future riser builds. Love your videos.

@Loth440 3 жыл бұрын

@George W. McClintock Yeah you can build a setup from scrap plywood and a little bit of hardware, not expensive at all.

@jamesbariso9507 3 жыл бұрын

Fits you right!

@starleen2211 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I love your chanel so much ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

@fleigmichael1986 3 жыл бұрын

Everytime exicted to watch your newest video. Sry, for being late to the party, other timezones :D Greetz from overseas ;)

@lucifurmorningstar9304 3 жыл бұрын

looking to make my own riser .... but where do i buy the limb holders from ? the 1's u had problem with??

@cherno2232 3 жыл бұрын

Power hour How did you get into archery and bow building in the first place? I wonder ..... Perhaps Also another video idea: turning a light poundaged laminated bow info a heavier poundage bow by adding a backing of more fiberglass

@scottcantdance804 3 жыл бұрын

Hobbies are funny. I was trying to get into archery and bowyery, I bought the Traditional Bowyer's Bible, and signed up for a local flintknapping class and learned how to make arrowheads. Then I was out hunting for knappable rocks to make arrowheads with when I picked up something that I thought was a piece of wood, until I touched it. It looked exactly like wood, but was stone. It was petrified wood. I kept finding more and more of it, and here I am 3 years later with, no joke, around 3,000-3,500 lb of petrified wood. And also chert, jasper, random fossils, amber, other stuff. Yes, it drives my wife crazy. No, I'm not going to stop. I never did end up making a functioning bow.

@jloor5267 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottcantdance804 if youre inclined you should show off your fossils in a video, could be cool

@cherno2232 3 жыл бұрын

@@scottcantdance804 never stop. Cant you get better rock types of you would search down the river stream of a mountain?

@N0rnagest 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work ... im surprised that it dropped #20 too, but a beautiful job... Im also wondering why you didn't 'radius' the shelf a little ? It looks completely flat. Doesn't it interfere with nock points on the string?

@maikkel5997 3 жыл бұрын

Your videoa are SO underrated

@jeffreypayne5459 3 жыл бұрын

Freaking sweet video! I will be doing this! I noticed you copied the angle on the riser from the old one. I was wondering if a slight angle adjustment cold offset loss of poundage? As usual, I find your videos inspiring! Thank you

@jamie-ox8sg 2 ай бұрын

Love the video you seem accident prone you broke a riser and almost a camera but love it informative and fun

@victoryelumalai7171 3 жыл бұрын

Buddy your great done well like this 👍

@victoryelumalai7171 3 жыл бұрын

@@kramerammonsarchery buddy I am only 14 years old bro

@dustinbrinker2733 3 жыл бұрын

Will you be doing a full bowfishing bow build from hardware store to finished

@cheeseymann 3 жыл бұрын

So I've had a concept I'm wondering if youd take a crack at. I'd love to build a longbow on a compound bow riser. Hand made limbs and all that but with a compound bow riser youd be able to add all sorts of counterweights and sights. I mean, I tend to shoot instinctive anyhow but to be able to mount sights on a longbow would be awesome

@cheeseymann 3 жыл бұрын

@@kramerammonsarchery awesome, I cant wait to see what you come up with.

@JoeBush2006 3 жыл бұрын

Kramer, any thoughts about building riser extensions to accomplish the same goal? You could possibly make 1", 2", and 3" extensions. You would need double hardware to fasten the extension to the riser and then the limb to the extension, other than that do you see any reason this would be unreasonably unsafe?

@troybailey6754 3 жыл бұрын

when ur bow is on the tilling block it looks like a crossbow any thoughts on making one,m

@paintballercali 3 жыл бұрын

That plywood looks better than I thought it would.

@gonzalosierra3209 3 жыл бұрын

👍Buen vídeo . Desde Ciudad de Fray Bentos, Uruguay 🇺🇾🇺🇾👏👏

@davidhendry9087 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Love your videos. Only thing I think you should start doing is crediting your music in the descriptions. A lot of it is great, and I would love to add it to my work playlist, but you don't tell us what it is

@CoensScaleModelling 3 жыл бұрын

Ok... that was some clever sh!t!

@jakebeasley3578 3 жыл бұрын

What is your opinion on the nighthawk 45lb draw recurve? Thats what i have and so far i like it.

@jeffreyfledderman2883 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy I would invest in fasteners that are Robeson Square drive or Torx style and definitely not brass lol but good build all in all

@dottedlineenigmas4469 3 жыл бұрын

Since you were using plywood, I fully expected you to use a wood stabilizing resin, (like BVV.) You need to do that for unstable woods like soft woods and plywoods, especially when tapping threads for metal bolts in said woods. These resins require mild heat treating to make them cure. Like your videos a lot. I would never do what you do though. I am too rigid and uneasy... Keep up the good work.

@luisfelipesaldivar5100 3 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see how fast can the arrows fly with that 20ish pound bow, in the footage looks very fast

@MaazKhan-sr9ml 4 ай бұрын

What kind of binding wood I have to pick up from my risk bow

@denniscleveland669 3 жыл бұрын

At least you had a piece of plywood that seemed void less.

@whilomforge3402 3 жыл бұрын

Could you pray for me and my family, Kramer? My father died in May last year, very unexpectedly, at 57... I know this seems random to ask of a guy that makes bows on KZfaq, but you seem like such a genuinely nice person that I felt I could ask this of you. I don’t want to worry my wife, or my three small children, or my mother for that matter... but I miss him terribly, and I don’t have anyone to talk to about it. Thanks for your content anyhow, if I had the extra money I’d order a tab or a wallet from you. God bless, and thanks again for your videos!

@lshn8457 3 жыл бұрын

I know im not kramer but i just wanna say: stay positive brother, it will get better, you can also search help with your mourning process online ❤️❤️

@goodolfashion 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing like flinging arrows to think of nothing .. hope you get better brother

@TaoistSwordsman 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kray-man... okay I'll work on a better nickname lol. What sort of file or rasp would you buy if you could only have one starting out? I tried looking for a Nicholson 49-50 like you suggested in an older vid, but it appears they've been discontinued:/ thanks, kra-machine! Youre the man

@DanSantanaBows 3 жыл бұрын

You can still find them around if you look hard. There are some tool suppliers on ebay that bought up a bunch It’s hard finding random-stitched rasps at the price of the 49/50 so those really are pretty awesome

@TaoistSwordsman 3 жыл бұрын

@@DanSantanaBows Thanks for the pointer, I'll look into this further!

@michaellewis7758 3 жыл бұрын

Quick question, why expoxy the wood,rather than titebond ? (Or other wood glue)

@k1nk1ne 3 жыл бұрын

I recently made a longbow and broke it because I did not tilter the limbs well and converted it into a takedown bow. 9-10 kilos. Thinking to make it more powerfull.

@renjither6148 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there ,,,, i really like your videos ,,, and i really like to make my own bow , but i dont know about the size and measurement of the riser ,,, can you make a video about that ,,, the angle , size of the riser , mid point , please please please...... Hope you will do that......

@TallonPrey 3 жыл бұрын

Wherever you live looks so beautiful.

@liamwilgar1914 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kramer, I think you should start reaching out to other youtubers and try organising a collaboration. You have the skills, the personality and the means and not only would it help increase your subscriber base I think you would positivity effect whomever you collab’d with as well. 100k+ is no joke. As always, much love from Aus we SO enjoy your vids!

@WilliamPiere 3 жыл бұрын

Kramer, what were the other two pieces of wood?

@AlexGvinder 3 жыл бұрын

Consider trying Pica marker. Adam Savage has video on it.

@emmadahdah2205 3 жыл бұрын

dude this video is so cool, i love how make it Kramer Ammons I've been watching u since u had 60 000 subs Btw I made a bow and the bend on one side is way bigger than the other one what do I do P.S ur so cool with ur imagination.

@Thestripper1 3 жыл бұрын

A longer riser will give a longer draw length to right?

@toratamashii0986 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a template for the riser of the takedown bow

@christopherwagner7781 3 жыл бұрын

I did that a few years ago for the same reason

@rashomon351 3 жыл бұрын

hmm, that's to much of poundage drop for the increased riser length. Seems like something additional is going on there. Maybe a change in the angles of the limb pockets ? Or are they further back towards you ?

@dazzamac70 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kramer, just wondering as the Riser doesn't flex like a limb or a one-piece bow, would you concider something like ARALDITE epoxy to be OK to laminate wood together for a riser instead of EA40 or the like? Cheers from Australia!🤙👊

@dazzamac70 3 жыл бұрын

@@kramerammonsarchery thanks!!! BTW: What's the shelf life for EA40? I've read that some epoxies only have a shelf life of about 12 months - as I don't need much, I certainly don't want it to go to waste if I buy some...🤔

@paigeu23 3 жыл бұрын

My mans be lookin like The Law (VGHS)

@weswright3187 3 жыл бұрын

I saw a documentary on the lifting of the Mary Rose, Henry VIII’s famous ship, which rolled over and sank in harbour. They found hundreds of long bows on her, plus the bones of various crew. They found the archers all had detached clavicles (I think it was) from the great stress of pulling on the bows, presumably from a young age.

@stmaju-jitsukerala5307 3 жыл бұрын

വളരെ നന്നാിരിക്കുന്നു Kramer Ammon's Very nice .Kramer Ammon's

@lucifurmorningstar9304 3 жыл бұрын

if i make a riser 4" inch shorter sould it make a + poundage ???

@junbae2028 3 жыл бұрын

I followed one of your snowmaking tutorials and made 2 bows, they both only had a draw weight of 25 pounds. How can I make them better and stronger next time?

@caseysmith544 3 жыл бұрын

To fix the bow you have now, add another thin layer of wood about 1/4 inch thick or 1/2 cm on the front but only in the spots of the limbs after the middle section then put on another layer of the front backing material be it the rawhide or the fiberglass tape in 7-8 layers on the front.

@oldgrumpyhunter 3 жыл бұрын

The heavier riser should help with the shot noise.

@sephiroth1985102514 3 жыл бұрын

Also, 8:56. Words from a "shade tree mechanic", it might not be pretty, but it'll still do what you need it to.

@arysoares9259 3 жыл бұрын

Ola, qual a medida desse riser? Ficou top de mais

@adrianalonso2810 3 жыл бұрын

I've never shot a bow in my life but thats prob bc im 12 lol. This vid was so good.

@SalmanKhan-kc3gf 3 жыл бұрын

Hey bro. Can we make bowstring by silk line?

@TheDude-pr6ug 3 жыл бұрын

I need a Kramer trance music play list that sh!t makes me think of BEANS n GLOWSTICKS!! 😜🎶🤪

@rootnpearl 3 жыл бұрын

Your arrow shelf should have a radius

@MysticRift 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kramer, I got to shoot my first bow today and I enjoyed it I think I need to work on my form cause I find that my arrows aren't really flying straight. But let me know what you think P.S you have heavily inspired me to start shooting and I'm glad that I'm finally getting to start.

@goodolfashion 3 жыл бұрын

For form help I'd look up Jeff Kavanagh and NuSensei, GrizzlyJim is also a good teacher :)

@MysticRift 3 жыл бұрын

@@goodolfashion Thanks! ill check them out

@StitchesLovesRats 3 жыл бұрын

Apollo by Dream Cave. Good choice! My only small critique is that I'd have picked the part that came just after that buildup. If I may offer a suggestion, Check out the album "Sun" by Thomas Bergersen. My favorites include: Creation of Earth. Final Frontier. Always Mine.

@Gumbus556 3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Bergersen and tsfh are amazing you have good taste

@StitchesLovesRats 3 жыл бұрын

@@Gumbus556 I know. I have the best taste. That's why I love my music taste so much XD

@jask5097 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see you shoot an AR15, I have no doubt you'd be able to make one too.

@BlazingShackles Жыл бұрын

Aha you fell for the old reverse threading thingy. We all do but next time you encounter too much resistance, think in reverse.

@benflannigan3355 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaah that’s how I answer my phone...

@mjoutdoorgear8134 3 жыл бұрын

Not to shabby!! The reason it dropped #20 is because you didn't account for the Limb Pad angle!! You used the same angle as the shorter riser!! I'm guessing you made a 25" riser? Those limb pads need to be alot shallower to get the effect you were looking for!! On your next one try 10-12degrees on that length of Riser!!