I disagree with GCN on these wheels! - Elitewheels Velo Six Disc review

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A few weeks ago, GCN reviewed these Velo Six Disc wheels. I’ve been riding the same wheels for 4 months, and disagree with what they said about stiffness…
I’ve been riding carbon road bike wheels from the Chinese company EliteWheels for many years at this point, and in April this year, Elitewheels sent me their new Velo Six Disc wheelset.
When first riding them, I initially thought they were very stiff. They felt fast, and the ride was certainly quite unforgiving, so they must be incredibly stiff. But the more I used them, the more I found this wasn't really the case.
The lateral stiffness was very low, probably the lowest of any wheelset I own actually, and this contradicts what Elitewheels say in their marketing. On the product page for these wheels, Elitewheels included the line, ‘far more laterally stiff than traditional spoked wheelsets’.
(Interestingly they have now updated the product description - more details in the bonus clip at the end)
In addition GCN, who are officially sponsored by Elitewheels, seemed to parrot this statement in their review.
So in this episode, I’ll cover these wheels, give them a good shakedown, explain the issues with stiffness, but despite this show they are still an incredible wheelset, just designed for a more specific purpose than the marketing may lead you to believe.
Wheelset link:
15% off all Elitewheels wheelsets with code ‘TRACE15’
www.elite-wheels.com/product/...
GCN review video:
• The UCI DON'T Want You...
Peak Torque Channel:
/ @peaktorque
Timestamps:
00:00 - Start
00:40 - Intro
01:25 - Wheels stats/info
02:16 - Fast and silent
03:37 - Wheel stiffness
05:01 - Wheel stiffness demo
06:56 - Lateral stiffness explanation
07:52 - Ride feel
08:49 - Conclusion
10:42 - Bonus clip time
Intro roll:
Created by Dev Joshi - www.go2dev.co.uk
Instagram:
/ tracevelo
Email:
tracevelouk@gmail.com
Please note:
I am not a professionally trained bike mechanic. There can be risks associated with using products that are unbranded, untested, or come from sources where the provenance is unknown. Please talk to a qualified bike mechanic if you are in any doubt.
In essence, be careful, do your research, and cycle safe!!!

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@Dreamweaver94 18 күн бұрын

Sometimes GCN can be fun to watch, especially when they get all Top Gear-y, but it's hard to trust what they say imo and many of their videos are straight up full ads.

@Ob1sdarkside 18 күн бұрын

Yeah, if they plug it, I'll be checking for other reviews. They do have some funny, entertaining stuff, they should do more of it

@JonnyPsyclo 18 күн бұрын

I stopped watching them years ago because literally every video was a plug for a brand rather than an actual review or group test.

@Ob1sdarkside 17 күн бұрын

@@JonnyPsyclo when pirelli were sponsors, they were constantly plugged as great tyres.

@calada1212 17 күн бұрын

@@JonnyPsyclosame..watched the era of the famous trio: the boss, the wig, the cyborg

@gamecat1923 17 күн бұрын

It was flat out embarrassing when they hyped up the, appallingly inaccurate, Shimano power meter as the best thing ever.

@nioknight2700 18 күн бұрын

Today Trace Velo takes on BIG BIKE

@williamko4751 18 күн бұрын

He buys cheap Chinese components and builds bikes. He takes on big brands from day one.

@renzclauderagay5773 17 күн бұрын

Yeah that's what he does

@JohnnyMotel99 17 күн бұрын

Hambini would be proud of Mr Velo.

@williamko4751 17 күн бұрын

@@JohnnyMotel99 and Joe Whittingham of China Cycling

@wtfiswiththosehandles 18 күн бұрын

Yeah, GCN are sponsored by Elite wheels, so I'd expect them to just regurgitate the marketing material on those.

@cauldron101 18 күн бұрын

CGN became more of a shopping channel than anything else.

@jamesmckenzie3532 17 күн бұрын

No, they became ads-r-us. Rather than take on the thing they eventually are doing: Become a subscription service. Sure it's great to push the product that is sponsoring you, but they aren't a professional racing team. Saying the sponsor of the month's product is better than Cheez-Whiz (a canned cheese product) is one thing, but saying it's better than a known way better (and less expensive) is another.

@soundninja99 17 күн бұрын

They can be entertaining and educational, but it's time to close your ears whenever they talk about specific products. I still think there's a lot of knowledge to be gained about cycling and even product categories, but you need to be aware that their marketers first and foremost.

@Hambini 18 күн бұрын

your fluff doesn't annoy me as much as tortional stiffness!

@doublejumpvideogames.... 18 күн бұрын

There's a hairdresser joke here somewhere....

@Hambini 17 күн бұрын

@@doublejumpvideogames.... Fluffer is the tea boy in a prawn film

@Technotranceism 17 күн бұрын

@@Hambini lmao

@time603 17 күн бұрын

The bike in the click-pick is a "Chinarello - Fluffer 9.0"

@keislayzell9255 17 күн бұрын

@@HambiniThe Pen is definitely working. 😂😂😂

@outdoor75 18 күн бұрын

Good on elite for editing their description of the wheels. Must have been your influence Luke! Keep it up

@not-a-raccoon 17 күн бұрын

GCN isn't where I go for honest, unbiased reviews. They're given a list of talking points from sponsors.

@judeackland-patel6646 18 күн бұрын

This was the perfect bike tech video imo : It was so objective, your explanation was really well done and you gave the perfect amount of detail. No fluff, just really articulate and satisfying journalism. Thanks :) 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@Rieger81 17 күн бұрын

Well there was one big bit of fluff...

@sanderwolters5852 15 күн бұрын

Love how you have no background in engineering (assuming?) and no professional tools but still manage to very visually demonstrate wwhy and how exactly you go about your findings. Amazing!

@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte 18 күн бұрын

GCN flat out lies for marketing , they did they same thing on the mtb channel with a fork a few weeks ago

@baconbreadwithbacon 18 күн бұрын

I would say out of fifteen things they rated poorly that I tried, only one thing was bad. After that, I was like nope. I can't trust them.

@veganpotterthevegan 17 күн бұрын

@baconbreadwithbacon expensive stuff only gets so bad. There are exceptions but the reviews that are really important are for mid range and low end gear.

@nugginusslover476 17 күн бұрын

which fork or video do you mean?

@MarvinWestmaas 17 күн бұрын

@@nugginusslover476 Doesn't matter, all GMBN does is bash on the budget options and tell us how we're not really biking unless we have the latest geometry, the newest 4 pot brakes ( even on our xc bikes ) and don't forget the 170mm+ suspension you REALLY NEED ( on our XC bikes ).... The only video's I really watch are when Blake is riding on something he built himself

@aitorbleda8267 17 күн бұрын

Precisely why I unsubscribed. They are funny etc, but not worth it. And it all comes down to sponsors

@iamjamestheiv 18 күн бұрын

GCN is in the pocket of big bike companies so I don't really take them too seriously on product recommendations because they are definitely biased.

@wuzihuzi 17 күн бұрын

Except for Silca, they're the bomb. I trust everything Oli says about them because I'm a Silca Stan 😅.

@jamesmckenzie3532 17 күн бұрын

Including waxing chains. It's possibly illegal in some areas and it's way more difficult than getting a bottle of the latest Whizz-Bang oil based lube. The claims for life extension are also dubious. I know folks that order chain by the roll and replace every 100 km of riding. They lube the chain once and that's it. And yes, every 60 miles.

@lunatiy 17 күн бұрын

@@jamesmckenzie3532 How is waxing illegal, also who are you riddng with that they throw away a chain after one ride also where can you buy a roll of bike chain, so many questions...

@jamesmckenzie3532 17 күн бұрын

@@lunatiy It's not the wax, it's the solutions used to prep the chain. It's illegal in most places just to dump mineral spirits anywhere. They have to be taken to a hazardous materials disposal place. I don't know about the Silca all in one wax package either. It's just a lot of work. As to the person who can toss chains after one use, look at the professional teams. They buy unlubricated chain by the spool. It's not that expensive when you look at it. It's wasteful though but when you want the best performance...

@HoshinoMirai 18 күн бұрын

Now you point the thingy out on your face i can't unsee it anymore

@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx 16 күн бұрын

the second he was done mentioning it, I immediately forgot for the rest of the vid

@cristofferlagergren 18 күн бұрын

Sadly GCN is not what it used to be. Keep Trace Velo great 🥖

@leonhardbokowski81 17 күн бұрын

I really, really appreciate how you always seem to go the extra mile to either prove or disprove manufacturer claims. I really trust your opinion. Don't let that change, thanks for all the effort!! It does not go unnoticed! 🥖🥖🥖

@leebaxter8654 18 күн бұрын

Changing the industry, one paragraph at a time 🥖. Great episode 😍

@a1white 17 күн бұрын

Well GCN, technically, were correct. Torsional and radial stiffness is very high but Lateral stiffness is so important, as you showed. That test you did to demonstrate is excellent. I would not use those wheels.

@captainvikingnumber1 18 күн бұрын

Good on you mate. Demonstrated why they were wrong!!!!!! GCN is just garbage and gave up on them years ago,. At least you actually use the gear and live with it!!! All power to you

@bengarside79 18 күн бұрын

Totally agree, I remember waiting for every GCN video, but unsubscribed 3 years ago. They are the gravy train now..

@chris9650 18 күн бұрын

Use them for training videos on the trainer now but that's about it. Sad cause they were great back in the day but too much money in the game.for them now.

@WillPower46 18 күн бұрын

Thank you for your honesty and truthful review. GCN just can not be trusted they have proven that over and over again.

@ryanS593 17 күн бұрын

Agreed. Years ago I watched them. Now I rarely ever do. They honestly lost me.

@the6ig6adwolf 18 күн бұрын

GCN Is the real fluff.

@Aero-Guero 5 күн бұрын

My concern about lateral stiffness of these wheels was my EXACT concern. Thanks for articulating so well!

@frostytf2 18 күн бұрын

Mr Luke I love seeing every time that upload comes through, keep up the good work :) 🥖

@samthackston9316 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the honest video! 🥖🥖🥐🥐 Any word on the new Wheeltop EDS GX? The gravel Groupset?

@red00tl 22 сағат бұрын

I liked how you remained fair and impartial as much as you can throughout this video. You thought the wheel had rubbishly low rim and spoke stiffness, yet you still tried to evaluate it fairly based on your actual riding impression. Your conclusion also was commendable in that you recognized both the strength and the weakness of this particular wheel design and recommended it for correct use while cautioning of its disadvantages. This might just be the most balanced and considerate review I've seen on KZfaq for a while. :) Just a note: the rim deflection test with your fingers might give the wrong impression of safety. When a load is exerted on the wheel while riding, it is always on the surface side (where tire and road surface meet) and the deflection, if any, occurs on the other side (seat stay side). I should think that the deflection on the other side of the wheel should be minimal due to the low rim stiffness and strong torsional stiffness, i.e., this wheel probably won't kill anyone by suddenly locking up. ;)

@suhdud4646 17 күн бұрын

Ive got a set of the Helix 68Ds and Elite have been amazing when listening to feedback, follow ups and always seem very appreciative of said feedback. Their customer service in my experience has been top class.

@diran971 18 күн бұрын

Got a pair of their ENT mtb wheels for my XC bike and i love them. They're also my first carbon wheelset. If they last I'll definitely buy again 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖.

@chriseldridge6721 18 күн бұрын

Got the ENT for road and they're so good!

@BikePappy 17 күн бұрын

Keep an eye on your spoke nipples. In 3 years or so you may see a spoke break free at the nipple. When this happens you should immediately stop using the wheels and have all your nipples replaced. Otherwise they’ll start letting loose like popcorn. The carbon/steel/aluminum mixture corrodes the nipples internally right at the neck of the nipple. It’s not visually apparent but trust me, it’s there. I recommend brass nipples for replacement. They weigh a bit more but the safety factor is worth it to me.

@JetsetJive7 17 күн бұрын

Great video, good to know that the manufacturer actually responded and took out claims that were incorrect. Now everyone will be pulling their wheels to see if it touches the fork ! 😁 I certainly did

@ti0chema 15 күн бұрын

GCN has changed over the years, time to find a new source of honest information. BTW I subscribed to this channel quite some time ago, always good info about affordable products to build a competitive bike. Keep it up Luke!

@oldguyandabike 16 күн бұрын

Well done. I was thinking as I was watching “ pull the rim towards the frame”. Yep. That would be terrifying to ride at speed in a fast and rough corner.

@einarhays 17 күн бұрын

Great episode Luke, waiting for the review of the wheeltop EDS groupset 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@DWMtukwila 18 күн бұрын

Have you ever seen GCN (I love the channel) like anything from Aliexpress?

@charliecook6909 18 күн бұрын

Nice shots of the windmill wheels in front of Brill windmill 👌 they do look amazing , gives an 80s bmx feel , all ways wanted some mag wheels 😂🥖🥖🥖🥖

@JeremyDawesJezweb 17 күн бұрын

Makes sense when you point it out. Bridges have triangles to make them strong. Wheels with spokes is like lots of triangles from hub to rim 😱 🥖🥖🥖🥖 great work Luke love the simplicity of the demo

@Iamwel 17 күн бұрын

That lateral stiffness is the weakness of most 1pc Carbon rims. (i.e. Spinergy, which explodes on its peak)

@DWMtukwila 18 күн бұрын

Also, shallow wheels of the same type will corner better as the rim itself is not flexing

@McHayes76 6 күн бұрын

Happy Elitewheels customer. Got two sets that have been flawless so far (3 years- 15-20.000 km and 1 year- 3.000 km of use). But Luke, how can you stand the constant flapping of the backpack straps. That would drive me insaaaaane!! ;-) Keep up the good work.

@petark1933 18 күн бұрын

Awesome video as always!

@n22pdf 17 күн бұрын

I guess this is the power of sponsorship.. and GCN now need to money and support.. glad you’ve highlighted this dude.. great honest vid as always 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@chaddalrymple 17 күн бұрын

Great video. These wheels remind me of my 1st pair of Spinergy wheels. Those were very laterally weak as well.🥖🥖🥖🥖

@noamharari2409 17 күн бұрын

Another extraordinary episode. Thank you for your content . Cheers 🎉🍻

@Mapdec 17 күн бұрын

This is a very easy test we can do in shops. It is shocking how bad some wheels are at destroying rider confidence in pursuit of aero or weight gains.

@george.carlin 17 күн бұрын

Good for you Elitewheels. Right move to correct the description!

@tomichaubg 17 күн бұрын

Well done on calling out GCN and marketing BS. You're the only source I trust. 🥖

@stujohn37 16 күн бұрын

As always Luke, a very informative video. I myself have a set of elite wheels and I love them. 🥖🥖🥖

@gregdash-fo5os 18 күн бұрын

i love riding spoked wheel because its ease of cleaning. few wipes got the wheel cleaned.

@EMTBAFV 17 күн бұрын

I was in the LBS the other day and seen front derailleur clamp hangers for bikes put me in mind of you with the Trifox issue! Maybe get a the clamp for the derailleur to mount to hardly anything to it weight and build ways!

@petef15 18 күн бұрын

GCN shills saying what they're told to say for the ad.

@luukrutten1295 18 күн бұрын

This is the case for almost all carbon three/four/five spoke designs of other manufacturers. Still good for timetrials.

@galenkehler 17 күн бұрын

I have a trispoke of the same basic construction, and i found it basically as you describe, laterally not as stiff, and with a surprising amount of radial compliance. I use a disc in the back so really can't comment on torsional stiffness, but feels similar to any other wheel. And as you point out this is about what we expect from the geometry, there jist isnt the triangulation to make it laterally stiff. But im not sure thats a problem, theyre stiff enough to ride well, and as a track rider who pedals pretty straight it doesnt really show up out on the road.

@user-ho6zk5ew1z 17 күн бұрын

Straight honest reviews, well done. We all need them including manufacturers, makes us all better 🤷‍♂️💪 cyclists. Do you get to keep the wheels after 😅

@KarloBituin 17 күн бұрын

Probably the only channel I can trust and resonate with. Here you go good sir 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@furiousframe 17 күн бұрын

Nice video trace. That is crazy flex!!

@NoahStone-gu4hx 18 күн бұрын

I would love to see you built up a tt frame as a road bike with these wheels to see if that's faster than the system six

@ThievingMagpiee 18 күн бұрын

I discovered that Elite Wheels 50D are also sort of trash laterally, at least on the back wheel. The finger pull test you did I never did once in my life until i got the 50ds because of how noticeably they were laterally loose. No where near as bad as these wheels though...

@lpoolck17 18 күн бұрын

Another great in depth look at a cycling product to give consumers some great knowledge.

@TomboLP 17 күн бұрын

Great stuff! 🥖🥖🥖🥖 Like a lot of people, I find that GCN can be really entertaining, but it's obvious that they also have to promote specific products. Their being more positive about the Chinese brands that smaller channels you look at might possibly lose them major advertising revenue.

@MarkoMarjanovicKackavaljer 18 күн бұрын

🥖🥖🥖 "Mr Industry Changer" :D Nice one, hope to see some drama and a reply from GCN :D 🥖🥖🥖 Any more "cheap accessories" videos soon?

@rockkin09 17 күн бұрын

How does the lateral stiffness compare to the 6 spoke drive gravel version you review a year ago? I recall you liked how those felt.

@ryanmichael11 15 күн бұрын

Great review 👏 this is type of details you don't get regular advert type reviews 👍 ❤ 🥖🥖

@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 18 күн бұрын

Depends on the spoke carbon used. Most if not all carbon WHEELS are T800 carbon fiber and its more flexible than T900 or T1100 series. Past T800, things tends to CRACK laterally with any impacts. T1000 and T1100 are also not available to China due to the previous American administration citing it has vast military implications. China has since produced its own T900 equivalent. The point being is lateral flex is the nature of T800 .

@iamtoobi 18 күн бұрын

another banger video 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 GCN is great for entertainment but please don't get detailed product info from them folks. Elitewheels is a GCN sponsor after all.

@michaelbradbrook9575 17 күн бұрын

Love it! 🥖🥖 Some Trace Velo vs GCN vs Peak Torque cage fighting 🥖🥖

@ross__mcl 17 күн бұрын

Hey Luke, any word on the updated ltwoo electronic groupset? Wondering if I should wait for it, or go for the current version. Cheers 🥖🥖🥖

@manoftheroad55 17 күн бұрын

Very informative ..exact conclusion ..cycling has different disciplines needing different bike designs and components.. perhaps only full carbon rear wheel test .. front spoked each wheel serves a different purpose .. NOW that would be a first

@victorlorenzo3959 17 күн бұрын

Nice video, Does the wheel touch the frame during sprinting?

@outdoorvertical 18 күн бұрын

SKYWAY Mag wheels on my late 80s Raleigh Burner didnt have this problem... rim brake too. Once buckled, they were hopeless though. Does the freezer trick work? IYKYK

@robertwhyte3435 18 күн бұрын

How do they feel in the corners? Does the bike wallow around or do they hold the line and inspire confidence on a technical descent?

@thomasparkins6749 17 күн бұрын

Anybody know what those chainrings are? I'm looking to replace my cannondale spiderings and love the design but don't love the price!

@oldmandice2731 16 күн бұрын

For TT or Triathlon what do you think about using a disc for the rear and one of these for the front?

@FeintMotion 18 күн бұрын

Always wait for the Hambone or Peeg Torg judgement

@2deaf4sound 10 күн бұрын

🥖🥖🥖 Great stuff! Keep on going Luke! I´m also a fan of Elite Wheels and already were happy with the cheap rim break version. I would love to have a set of 1300g Drive wheels. Just have to convice my wife that I do desprately need them :D

@Csapi007 16 күн бұрын

What you could do to measure the firce is to somehow place a scale under your thumbs as you pull the wheel towards the fork.

@bjorne46 15 күн бұрын

Good to see you debunk some GCN Productplacement. Could you test the Marvel G35 gravel wheels? And.... the 15% discount doesn't apply to the Marvel G35. Thanks for the effort! 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@chrisscott8362 18 күн бұрын

Wow that is super flexy!!! Would not have guessed that.

@PatrickLino 18 күн бұрын

I found my pair to be comfortable, especially once you get to the desired speed. No harshness. Something I did not expect.

@aim-at-me 18 күн бұрын

Hey Patrick! Collab with Trace when?

@RylHango 17 күн бұрын

That lateral flex goes out of play once you get into a smooth cadence and sit into the saddle

@rodcosta2345 18 күн бұрын

No drama at all - you showed evidence of the lack of lateral stiffness and pointed out an obvious issue. 🥖🥖🥖

@kevinfrost1579 17 күн бұрын

It might be a bit of fluff but definitely no flies on you Luke ……… great job ….reviews based in reality and miles …………. Multiple baguettes for you sir ! 🥖🥖🥖

@themediocretriathlete 17 күн бұрын

I agree with Luke, Elite wheels really are a great deal and have a set of 80mm wheels on my tri bike for training. Just been bullet proof for me.

@mangethegamer 16 күн бұрын

Dear Mr Trace. What are the best wheels you can get on a budget that's both durable but also quite cool and fancy?

@MrAG1986 17 күн бұрын

Quality and on point review, thanks

@roguecode2354 17 күн бұрын

Your amount of spokes dictates your lacing, and you can have the same amount of spokes in the front too, it is just done to save weight and look cool if you do radial lace. Ideally 32 or 36 holes for strength then after that it is up to you on how you want them to look and feel. I like the star 24 holes makes.

@paolot8999 18 күн бұрын

I think the lack of lateral stiffness is caused by the carbon layout more than the geometry of the wheel. It is difficult to judge from pictures but I think the fibres are layed up in a radial pattern, from the hub to the rim, this will produce a very stiff wheel radially and vertically but a very weak wheel laterally.

@herrkmidt 16 күн бұрын

Hey guys, do you have any recommendations for battery-powered pressure washers for cleaning bikes? I'm looking for a handy device for a city apartment without a garden

@Tamanisawesome 17 күн бұрын

Can you see if you can borrow a set of the Bike Ahead Composites aero to do a comparison??

@nickhalluk 18 күн бұрын

Almost like GCN is selling out... Very disappointing GCN. At least we can guarantee an honest opinion here. Keep up the great work 🥖🥖🥖🥖

@cornishcat11 18 күн бұрын

sold out a long time ago

@williamko4751 18 күн бұрын

Selling out...when did you start watching them?

@nickhalluk 18 күн бұрын

I've watched them since the VERY early days, but over the last year or so I've really drifted away from them

@All4Grogg 17 күн бұрын

GCN Plus was absolutely amazing while it lasted, easiest and by FAR cheapest way to view pro racing west of the Atlantic via a bit of virtual tourism. Big name manufactures have dug themselves into a massive financial hole over the past few years and considering how much of GCN was funded by them, they are in trouble. When they occasionally make commuting content, I approve. Race content was fantastic. The paid ads and shilling, hard pass. They will need to either shill harder or seriously shrink to keep the lights on and I am really hoping them chose to shrink and maintain some shred of credibility. 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

@johnbuckley1754 4 күн бұрын

Its weird i didn’t like the looks of these at first now they are growing on me and i might just go for em on my next build.

@glennoc8585 17 күн бұрын

Reminds me of my tuff bmx wheels on my bmx as a kid. They look cool but I think they're too stiff and you want some lateral movement when you corner but that is frankly bizarre. Nice for TT. I think it was Alex Dowsett that trialled the 5 spoked wheelset and he found the ride not to his liking

@MarvinWestmaas 17 күн бұрын

Coming from a mtb, that amount of lateral flex is unacceptable due to the much more frequent and higher lateral loads a wheel goes through when riding rougher terrain. It would rub constantly and destroy itself. Heck I've had lose wheels ( due to bad spoke tension ) and due to that I felt afraid to lean the bike over in a corner, I can't imagine having that much motion and still feeling planted ( unless you're used to it I guess ).

@haemmertime 18 күн бұрын

They choppy sound doesn't appear because of the angle of the spokes. The sound would be more prominent when the spokes were straight, by one would pass through the fork with all its surface area at once. By angeling them only a small section of one spoke passes through the fork reducing the sound. Maybe the sound could be reduced even more by an increased angle of the sokes, this however would also lead to lower lateral stiffness as well.🥖🥖🥖

@ZenEndurance 18 күн бұрын

Wider forks would make less sound, too.

@Coleen-it1cn 17 күн бұрын

Hey luke can you try the sensah quantum shifters paired with shimano tiagra rd? The quantum was made for tiagra

@smithandshortdogs 17 күн бұрын

Lateral stiffness is easy to measure. Mount the wheel horizontally, then hang a weight off of it and measure the deflection. If you don't have a jig just lay the bike on its side on a table.

@derekhobbs1102 17 күн бұрын

PT will be all over it for his own videos.

@mauriceramey7819 18 күн бұрын

Yay new video

@pierrex3226 18 күн бұрын

That fork flex by hand is actually pretty scary. Climbing out of the saddle must be like riding a noodle. Well, I guess there's a reason why wheels have spokes :) elite is yet to reinvent the wheel!

@Perry_On 17 күн бұрын

The cross section in the lateral direction is way smaller but you need it because of the moment of inertia in that direction. A rectangular shape for example with double the height got an aight times greater moment of inertia in that direction. The traditional spokes have a much bigger cross section (not one spoke but the complete wheel itself), so its very hard to compansate this with better matirial. Beacuse aight time stiffer materal is not easy to get. In that case its not an rectangal right, i only want to demonstrate the issure with a smaller crosds section