Žižek - Lacan and Sexual Difference

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@StreetlightRock
@StreetlightRock 11 жыл бұрын
Probably the best of Zizek's talks I've listened to here.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 6 жыл бұрын
agreed
@birdwatching_u_back
@birdwatching_u_back 6 ай бұрын
It really, really is. So rich and dense but also surprisingly clear for him. (Maybe one person should leave a reply to this comment every 5 years to keep the pattern going)
@jackhal1
@jackhal1 2 ай бұрын
Zizek talking about Yu-gi-oh, never knew i needed that in my life, but i did
@user-tk8bk9ww9q
@user-tk8bk9ww9q 8 жыл бұрын
This video ends not with the applause of the people in the room,but with zizek ending his speech,and saying "...ok i talked too much."
@user-tk8bk9ww9q
@user-tk8bk9ww9q Жыл бұрын
Ti amk
@CheekyVimto08
@CheekyVimto08 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading man!
@lenejaV
@lenejaV 11 жыл бұрын
great upload many thanks!
@thechinaman7182
@thechinaman7182 2 жыл бұрын
"The other is primordially not the other in whom I can recognize myself, but it's this ontological paradox of another absolute." That is so dead fucking on I need to extrapolate this
@xletix69
@xletix69 9 ай бұрын
formulas of sexuation start at 18:20
@megavide0
@megavide0 Жыл бұрын
"... Lacan's achievement: He reasserts the ontological status of sexual difference. The problem is: How can he -- in a way -- re-sexualize the Universe, without regressing into a pre-scientific mythology...?"
@bimma1000
@bimma1000 10 жыл бұрын
I claim, nonetheless, it's crucial...preceisly
@bimma1000
@bimma1000 9 жыл бұрын
I like it
@hectichill
@hectichill 9 жыл бұрын
Tommy Andersson and so on
@dustiny.334
@dustiny.334 8 жыл бұрын
+hectichill how should i put it?
@SherryNiles1312
@SherryNiles1312 7 жыл бұрын
*sniff*
@mube237
@mube237 7 жыл бұрын
Mass, thrue bay thing you ne verzal lee
@Lion117
@Lion117 11 жыл бұрын
this is very good.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 6 жыл бұрын
Exercise some self-control and hear it all the way through to the end-Slavoj's sense makes most sense in discursive macroscopic arcs... which means he will contagiously infect your youtube recommendations.
@ForestAnon
@ForestAnon 10 жыл бұрын
I have noticed when he does lectures in his own language it actually sheds so much more light on his concepts, I think you are correct in saying it has to do with his english.
@lizthor-larsen7618
@lizthor-larsen7618 3 жыл бұрын
Eight years later, October 2020, Bolivia is in fact displaying that the ancient and ultimate modern is functioning much better than the fictional 'modern' into which we in the west were born in the late 1940s and 50s. Class antagonism has indeed produced a semblant that functions well for the quality of life of the majority of the people who live in the region.
@bimma1000
@bimma1000 10 жыл бұрын
my great friend, haha, G K Chesterton...
@MateuszSiwiak
@MateuszSiwiak 8 жыл бұрын
+Tommy Andersson my OLD GUY, haha G K Chesterton :]
@thechinaman7182
@thechinaman7182 2 жыл бұрын
holy fuck this is blowing my fucking mind right now
@KingsOfCydonia
@KingsOfCydonia 3 ай бұрын
We can distingish what is fiction and what is reality. But if we take away the fiction we lose reality itself.
@joealanbrooks
@joealanbrooks 11 жыл бұрын
Date and location?
@pencert
@pencert 11 жыл бұрын
I listened to the whole thing, but I'm not much closer to understanding Lacan's take on sexual difference.
@lukemccrae1617
@lukemccrae1617 Жыл бұрын
@1:09:00 "If you are not a man, you are a woman - BUT if you are not a woman, you are not a man. That's the point of Lacan."
@birdwatching_u_back
@birdwatching_u_back 6 ай бұрын
1:45:46 Crazy how he brings this up presumably *right* before scientists actually literally discovered the Higgs Boson (on July 4, 2012). At any rate, this lecture was posted on KZfaq in September of that year, so I’m assuming he delivered it at least a few months before then. Dang, pretty wild :)
@patchanman
@patchanman 11 жыл бұрын
I can't find the swan diagram, but I do believe a Venn diagram can represent this idea :)
@nactan
@nactan 11 жыл бұрын
name of the book?
@YeseDenuton
@YeseDenuton 8 жыл бұрын
The Hopi (in what is now the Hopi Reservation in northeastern Arizona), according to Alice Schlegel, have as a "gender ideology ... one of female superiority, and it operated within a social actuality of sexual equality."[6] According to LeBow (based on Schlegel's work), in the Hopi, "gender roles ... are egalitarian .... [and] [n]either sex is inferior."[7] LeBow concluded that Hopi women "participate fully in ... political decision-making."[8] According to Schlegel, "the Hopi no longer live as they are described here"[9] and "the attitude of female superiority is fading".[9] Schlegel said the Hopi "were and still are matrilinial"[10] and "the household ... was matrilocal".[10] Schlegel explains why there was female superiority as that the Hopi believed in "life as the highest good ... [with] the female principle ... activated in women and in Mother Earth ... as its source"[11] and that the Hopi "were not in a state of continual war with equally matched neighbors"[12] and "had no standing army"[12] so that "the Hopi lacked the spur to masculine superiority"[12] and, within that, as that women were central to institutions of clan and household and predominated "within the economic and social systems (in contrast to male predominance within the political and ceremonial systems)",[12] the Clan Mother, for example, being empowered to overturn land distribution by men if she felt it was unfair,[11] since there was no "countervailing ... strongly centralized, male-centered political structure".[11] Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_roles_among_the_indigenous_peoples_of_North_America
@lizthor-larsen7618
@lizthor-larsen7618 3 жыл бұрын
It is, I think, typical of european thinkers to undervalue the social organization of the indigenous people of N, S and Central America. Here is expressed the conceit of 'modernity' forgetting that the surviving cultures of the past were well grounded and 'modern' for thousands of years before the brutal arrival of european capitalism in the 1400s ad. I base this position on extensive study of west coast indigenous systems of life. The determination of europeans to destroy previous existing civilizations has failed, thanks to the men and women who understand the value of their world view and see the 'empty otherness' (ie. lack of concern for the natural systems which underpin our survival) of the european project in the so-called "new world."
@hareeshscifi13
@hareeshscifi13 2 жыл бұрын
Is the limits of hegel uploaded anywhere? The one he mentions at the beginning of the talk
@farrider3339
@farrider3339 5 ай бұрын
Yes, now it is, precisely under the title you mentioned 🎉
@patchanman
@patchanman 11 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to comprehend sexual universality. How can a subjectively deviant sexuality find peace with fiction and reality, in order to fulfill intimate relationships. These differentials may be empathized and accepted, but, may not be mutually expressed in reality.
@IzabelParis
@IzabelParis 11 жыл бұрын
58:30 - 1:02:30 funny, v funny, and v v good
@beni8ification
@beni8ification 7 жыл бұрын
at @20:00 mn the dude is talking about yugioh hhh
@lotoreo
@lotoreo 2 жыл бұрын
It's time to... D- D- D- D- D- Dialecticize the difference between the sexes by positing it as the effect of a universal deadlock
@rcrdsturmer
@rcrdsturmer 6 жыл бұрын
Why is not possible subtitles, legends?
@adk.lokesh
@adk.lokesh 3 жыл бұрын
no idea bro
@coreolis7
@coreolis7 11 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is a standard Cartesian graph, with four quadrants ?
@Shimansaji
@Shimansaji Жыл бұрын
Precisely, a Barromian Knot, a tripartite structure, containing four parts.
@SonytoBratsoni
@SonytoBratsoni 11 жыл бұрын
25/3/11 The Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities
@fhinq2776
@fhinq2776 Жыл бұрын
1:50:42 LESS THAN NOTHING 😵‍💫🥰
@patchanman
@patchanman 11 жыл бұрын
Trollolol :D Define "This".
@animefurry3508
@animefurry3508 9 ай бұрын
Aaaa yes Pokemon cards a classic example of Kantian logic with its set rules in visible and invisible variables, but if i do say so i much prefer the speculative mixed Hegelian ontology of Yu-Gi-Oh where every card is its own let of laws and objectives. ... In essence Pokemon is for evil authoritarian totalitarians and Yu-Gi-Oh is good radical and based, and anyone whom plays pokemon is dumb and we cut there heads off lol!
@denitargski8955
@denitargski8955 6 жыл бұрын
01:11:10
@EmanueleTorrenteOfficial
@EmanueleTorrenteOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
DAFFY DUCK Read Lacan.
@jesperandersson889
@jesperandersson889 7 жыл бұрын
Just going to hear this speech-have not done it yet (my guesse as ti its content;) This analysis is timeless so to speak, sorry guys (n gals) your roles change as "time goes by" - I think Hegel is right and I think sex changes (is different in different eras) Try finding eras of femininity (1700s), before that masculinity, and after as well. You can read my stuff at Medium (text called You are Crazy I know) by J Andersson
@lloplop
@lloplop 11 жыл бұрын
HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 3 жыл бұрын
...the whole thing about, there is no sexual relationship, and then, .. the symbolic of gender, and how it is used is in itself wrong. Need to understand that... According to Lacan....and how to change the thought today?
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 3 жыл бұрын
There is never 2... It is always MORE. The struggle is always for.. THE MORE. Always three...
@latioswarr3785
@latioswarr3785 Жыл бұрын
@@mandys1505 it means there are precisely only 2 genders or at least sexualitys, the phalic and non phalic one, arguing for more genders is simply going back to non phalic but its still only 2
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 Жыл бұрын
@@latioswarr3785 🙏yeah .. the precise logic and way that lacan works... sometimes i forget. its like that with so many philosophers- dift definitions and backgrounds for the same word...which is actually a very dift concept. true
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 Жыл бұрын
😁🤗 i just saw a video where zizek says that lacan's concept of femininity is divided between his own personal battle of either interpreting the discourse through kant or hegel: in kant he is more mystical and soulful, using the thing in itself, and by using hegel as a lens, he is more in a lost realm.. it was on a todd mcgowan video. i think the discourses are amazing but i have to admit ..its so fun to hear zizek go at it. 😁💛💥
@GroockG
@GroockG 8 жыл бұрын
Man and woman shouldn't have as much weight as they do, all humans are the same apart from a few pieces of physical matter, to put it cold and scientifically. I feel like Zizek is close, but is missing the point in that the difference between the sexes is meaningless, it can be reversed either way and it's not a strong binary, there are many humans who associate with neither. Both ideas of man and woman are virtual, some people have brown hair some have blonde, some people have one type of sexual organ, some people have another. it's just heavily enforced to choose one or the other, when really it is meaningless when it comes down to love.
@GroockG
@GroockG 8 жыл бұрын
+GroockG or I am missing his point haha
@GroockG
@GroockG 8 жыл бұрын
+GroockG ahhhh didn't watch the whole video haha
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 6 жыл бұрын
2:06:06 "What you cannot say is that 'not woman is man'-that if you deny woman you are back at man. I think that there is an excess in woman-sexual difference is deeply asymmetrical. Which is again (just to make it clear) I think it is not some kind of primordial dualism. The original structure is precisely like that of coffee without milk-there are no two sexes. There is one sex plus something, which is neither."
@latioswarr3785
@latioswarr3785 Жыл бұрын
Your stupid postmodernist comment is exactly the opposite of what zizek is saying, what he is saying those diferences are all that matters
@latioswarr3785
@latioswarr3785 Жыл бұрын
Its bad metonimity your stupid logic, how can you go from i identifie as a woman to somehow biological sex doesn't exist
@shimadamada9646
@shimadamada9646 11 жыл бұрын
This sounds like gibberish.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 6 жыл бұрын
The best way in which to sink the hooks of thought into plastic minds. Piss everyone off so they try to argue for their subjectivity, then emancipate them with more examples of Nothing.
@handyalley2350
@handyalley2350 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine looking at your life from hell, does it get more gibberish than that?
@CC3GROUNDZERO
@CC3GROUNDZERO 11 жыл бұрын
Love Zizek, but in this lecture he's at his most confused and confusing, by far. I guess it has to do with his English, because precise formal logic requires precise language. At any rate, I vastly prefer other lectures of his, where he's much more clear.
@abdulmalikjahar-al-buhairi9754
@abdulmalikjahar-al-buhairi9754 5 жыл бұрын
He is so wrong when it comes to his entire "woman is unman" point. Female is always the prototype of a species and male is the abstraction/perversion. Look at bees: drones serve only the purpose of flying semen carryier then die. If you want to see the interesting parts of bee life you have to study the females. Look at humans. We are all first women physiologically then the testosteron forms a sack out of the would be labia and the would be clitoris grows on a stick. There is no species that is an exception to this by definition. Female is always the nature of a species and male an abstraction. Man are unwoman and woman are not man. Not the other way around. Another example for this is this argumentation in itself. A woman does not have to justify her existance by putting everything into categories. A man has to prove himself beyond semen carryier and find an artifical meaning of life. Thats why female philosophy is much more pragmatic and real world oriented. Only men need these fantasies. I say this as a non feminist man.
@chrismarks1909
@chrismarks1909 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I had my first beer
@latioswarr3785
@latioswarr3785 Жыл бұрын
Yes woman came first however woman is the negative or at least lack of a man, i mean the word woman literally means not man, also this is psycholoanalisis if we try to poke holes we will find them however its really usefull, in practice a matriarchal society worships earth while the patriarchal societys worshiped the sky, also in humans the woman has the 2 forms of desire phalic and non phalic
@clevergadget
@clevergadget 5 ай бұрын
Yeah you are absolutely a non feminist man 👌 this is clear from the sentiment because it gives all character strength to the man who has to prove his worth as opposed to woman who gets to be born with worth. So all glory goes to the men in this perspective. 😮
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