Glad I got my 19 sti sucks I had to learn/teach myself in it but worth it

Had a similar experience when I was deciding between a mustang or a wrx. I went into the ford dealership first and asked to test drive a mustang, the salespeople said I could only test drive it if I put down a down payment. I told them I’m not putting any money down for a simple test drive and left. Another salesperson chased me out to the lot and saw my previous car, and then he said a mustang was a huge upgrade from my previous car, and then I told him that’s why I needed an upgrade but they just lost my business. I went with the wrx and never looked back

When i was 18 i walked into a Subaru dealership and they blew me off like i couldn’t afford anything they sold granted i was a kid but could buy the car amost in cash. I ended up with the 06 EVO and have been searching for a similar car every since i sold my evo back in the day. May finally forgive subaru for there oversight and give this thing a try.

Out of the box it's the perfect daily. The aftermarket can make it as raw as you like.

@RJWebber13 I love my grey VB so far. I will never do performance mods to it. Out of the box it will keep up with a stock sti, that's good enough for me. Just protective mods like door sill guards, tuxmats, oem mud flaps etc. Will probably also do a 4th brake light.

Haha your story is the same as mine. I’ll never sell it and one day my son will have it

I have no doubt these cars when modified a bit are a blast.

hopefully they can fit the sti driveline into VB chassis like pretty much every other gen can. if that thing can be easily made to fit or fits natively, it would be a massive upgrade and you're gonna start seeing those prices soar

Just get a carbon fiber sorter steering rack silly 😜

Keeping mine stock for a while. Im just checking out what others are doing and will decide later what direction I want to go.

They both have the same 0-60 time so it's not faster. It's just got a little better tuning.

Honestly, my vb is fun even down low from like 2.5-4k. Much better torque feeling than the va

Absolutely. Nice to see the numbers it puts out with a simple tune. Very promising indeed.

In your case, definitely a big step up. I’m mainly speaking to the diehard Subaru car enthusiasts that have experience in the previous gens. Someone coming into the vb as their first wrx, definitely a different experience overall.

@@Scoobyfreak86 ya and im really impressed, I dont really mind the looks of it, but pictures definitely don't do it justice, overall, I liked this review

Here's hoping they keep the same raw feeling when/if they bring the STi back 🤞

Not gonna lie, I was happy to get back onto my STI after a VB test drive. The VB will need some mods just to get it to a nice place. Short shifter being the first. That lowwwww rev limit being the second. 1st gear ended wayyy too soon. Wonder why sonlow rev limit. Everything else was OK. Steering was too light compared to STI though. The big thing. It just didn't feel 'special'. I am still debating getting one though lol.

Not really worth paying the extra gas and insurance especially if it's gonna be a daily driver. WRX wins everytime.

bro if your vb has an sti trans in it, you need to start making youtube videos ASAP. People will go insane over that

@2015 WRXMAN I personally will never mod my vb. But curious, what mods for the va increase power and reliability at the same time? That sounds like a fairytale to me.

​@@steve8803 Number 1 for reliability on the DIT 2.0 FA a Fluidampr for the crankshaft. Secondary vibrations at high revs are let us say bad for engines and leave it at that. Fluidampr provides an excellent technical explanation. It is common knowledge that DI engines have valve fowling problems as the the valves are not washed by the fuel. An AOS or catch can dramatically reduces this problem. From IAG "oil coats the internal portions of the intake, intercooler, and piping. This oil may cause premature failure of rubber or silicone hoses, which leads to failed connections" Fowled valves rob performance, fuel economy and in turn effect reliability. An EGR delete also has the same positive impact. Air with combustion particulate is not circulated. An engine is a giant air pump. The more oxygen rich cool air you can get in and hot gas out with the least amount of restrictions is optimal for power. So better flowing intake, charge pipe, intercooler, exhaust header and exhaust all increase power output when even slightly higher boost pressure is introduced. An engine that can breath easier doe not work as hard is less stressed and becomes more reliable. Of course if you thrash your car constantly which is tempting when your car performs better you can lose some of that reliability and durability. Lastly regardless of how powerful the engine is BHP it is the losses incurred along the way to the wheels WHP that steal available power transmitted to the ground. That plus sprung and unsprung weight. Driveline upgrades remove power transfer losses, so stiffer engine mounts, stiffer transmission mount and differential mount and bushings reduce losses. Aftermarket brakes are lighter as are aftermarket rims. Less rotational mass means more power is transmitted to the ground versus getting the wheels moving. A one piece carbon fiber drive shaft also does this too. Less rotational mass means better power transfer. On the STI a carbon fiber driveshaft removes 12 lbs! The one I have on my WRX does not provide the same weight loss, roughly 3 lbs if memory serves. So that was way longer than I intended but I got on a roll, lol. Hope that answers the inquiry. Also Chris has talked about some of these very modifications and their benefits on his channel.

So it seems. But time will tell how it holds up. The fa in the va was the same way and everyone was going crazy with it. Just to find out a few years later it has its limits.

I didn’t make any assumptions. I formulated my opinion the same way anyone else test driving a car would. The day I bought my STI was the first time I ever truly driven one. I have a pretty good indication of what a car is like before even driving it. It felt exactly the same as the outgoing gen, just with more fluff on the interior. Opening it up more wouldn’t have changed my mind. Although a nicely modified one could change that.

It makes 302/321 with just the Cobb OTS.

I was looking at the Elantra N, but living in New England there’s nothing else in the price range that’s manual with AWD. The VB was the clear winner. Extremely happy with it

Definitely don’t doubt it! I’m sure it’s a blast.

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They’re out there! I got a 2016 STI with less than 30k miles for $30k. Completely stock and very well taken care. Just keep looking! All I’ve done so far is an axle back because believe me, the car is too quiet stock.

Have an update video coming out today in the current status of it all.

Good feedback! Thanks for posting. Miata’s are a blast!

This puts me at ease , I recently totalled my 19 sti, and 22 wrx seems like the only option though I know I'm gonna miss that transmission and steering feel lol

@@alexthesaxman6219 The 22 is such a good daily. Youll get used to the lighter steering and might even be shocked at how quick it is. Only thing for me that I truly missed with the VB was the UEL rumble

It doesn’t. Seating felt just as high as the va.

@@Scoobyfreak86 that's disappointing but also not surprising. Must be a safety related thing.

It’s more-so to appeal to the masses. Most people like sitting higher to see the road better.

@@Scoobyfreak86 That's a good point. I do wish the WRX platform had more adjustability in that regard. I drove a Type R which sat down quite low at its lowest setting, but also could be adjusted to sit as high (and higher) as in my STI.

Tuning potential yes. I think the fa24 is just a better motor overall comparing the fa20. Looks wise, I’ll be giving the W for the VA. Perfect combo would be the va chassis with the fa24 motor.

Definitely could have done a much better job in the rear end. Although, seeing it painted makes it look way better.

It’s already selling like crazy. They come and go very quickly on the lots. Should be interesting in the summer months once the type r prices come down to normal amounts. Also the gr corolla is available too.

@@Scoobyfreak86 I hope they do! Maybe they’ll both be attainable by then. The $10-20k markups on the GR is insanity.

Come to Cali and get one, not selling as well out here! Got mine though lol

I don’t think they are moving quick at all. There are 35+ available within 20 miles of me.

That’s just the market now. No one wants to buy cars at 9%.