Third time to the range with this thing trying to get it to group half decent......
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@chrisevansgunshorsesranchi6994 ай бұрын
It is hard to believe that rifle will shoot sub MOA with that many different types, weights of bullets. I am pretty sure the operator of the trigger has a lot to do with it. Great job again !!!
@TacticallyTasty4 ай бұрын
You're such an underrated shooter. Awesome to see a reviewer who you never have to worry about flinches or pulls!
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@bradd83834 ай бұрын
Yeah dude can shoot...
@AllAboutSurvival4 ай бұрын
It's like solving a complex puzzle, tweaking your grip, stance, and maybe even ammo types until you find that sweet spot
@superezbz4 ай бұрын
With the 1:8 twist, I would think that it likes heavier stuff, but it's nice to see that it stabilizes the light stuff too. Thanks for following up with this one.
@bennyfisher44154 ай бұрын
And the shorter barrel.
@superezbz4 ай бұрын
@@bennyfisher4415 That was probably one of the factors tthat led them to the twist rate. All of the research and development that has been done on 5.56/223 over the years has yielded mountains of data about barrel length and twist rate and load development. It seems that whatever the platform, 1:8 is kind of the goldilocks. With the ability to stabilize rounds from light to heavy.
@lanejohnson76564 ай бұрын
Those Wolf done much better than I thought they would..
@clintleffingwell81294 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what's more impressive: 0.29" out of the CorBon's, or 0.84" out of Wolf ammo. ;-). BTW, if you want a nice equivalent to the CorBon's, get some of the AAC 5.56 from Palmetto State with either the 75 or 77 grain bullets. At about 65 cpr, it's the best-kept secret on the market. :-)
@FishKepr3 ай бұрын
If someone told me they could get Wolf to shoot sub-MOA I would have had to stifle a laugh, even a 3-shot group.
@timmore14 ай бұрын
I'd like to see you try your group's with the shusher can and then without the can to see how your groups are
@toddj26904 ай бұрын
I always think that too on these videos
@JonR354 ай бұрын
Same, esp for us that don't have the cans
@Fishinguy9624 ай бұрын
X3
@MartinJ96104 ай бұрын
Yes
@garytrainer16904 ай бұрын
Yes. A good idea.
@shaggytitz73254 ай бұрын
Who Tee Who thanks for loaning Paul the weapons he needs to do his videos.
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Paul is the man
@craiglafosse80864 ай бұрын
I'd love to see how that thing shoots the hunting ammo out there. Like some barnes, federal fusions, Hornady vamx, etc...
@Mike-xi4zt2 ай бұрын
77 grain core bond is hunting ammo. Would be great on deer.
@kirkboswell25754 ай бұрын
Thank you for the follow-up information. We've all been interested. Compared to that very first video with the bulk Remington ammo, it's pleasing to find the rifle is actually a "shooter" and it's equally understandable why so many people condemned Remington bulk ammo in that very first video. I'm also pleased to learn that the theory of 1 to 8 twist being most accurate with the "heavy for caliber" ammo is also accurate. Generally, I'm not "ammo sensitive," but you can be sure that I'm going to look twice at bulk Remington stuff. I'm starting to think that their "seconds" are the bulk packaged stuff, and the boxed stuff is what meets spec. The last ammo I truly loved above all others was Remington Bronze Point ammo. Haven't made it for years now, but that stuff was "match lighting accurate" in my rifle back then.
@edjett2631Ай бұрын
Remington Bronze points! The "original" ballistic tip. Very under rated IME.
@krisgreenwood51734 ай бұрын
The CorBons settled that argument.
@MattWaller044 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@risenfromyoutubesashesagai63024 ай бұрын
CorBons are pretty dag gone amazing, no matter the caliber.
@bennyfisher44154 ай бұрын
In this group of ammo absolutely. But there's still a few more other brands left to be tested though.
@Airon794 ай бұрын
I thought the others were amazing until the Cor-bons came up , now , I'm thinking the others are pathetic , comparatively . I would like to see different 77g rounds shot to distinguish whether it's the manufacture of ammo or just the grain size of bullets .
@googies12a4 ай бұрын
My Howa 1500 in 223 really likes the 55gn loads. I developed a load using 21.6gn N133 and Sierra Blitzking 55gn bullets. grouping .25". 1:9twist. tried 69gn and it didn't like it. Might go 70gn+ and see what its like. Nightmare finding anything otehr than 53gn or 55gn around here. All the best from Ireland☘
@forrestebert52764 ай бұрын
I thought the 77 grain bullets were going to be good for you and I’m glad you tested some. The Sierra 77 grain will give you some good hand loads and that will be your deer catching bullet!
@RitterRundown4 ай бұрын
Awesome. I like that rifle more and more every time I see it. Fun to watch how different rifles shoot with different ammo.
@KathrynLiz14 ай бұрын
That old tsab;e by your barn needs a new plank or two 😀 That little rifle is accurate with just about anything.... those 77 grainers are "bench rest" accurate... wow.... 🙂
@charlesmorgan18794 ай бұрын
Mighty fine flinging sir !
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@rosalindstewart70134 ай бұрын
They are all within minute of whitetail, have fun bro, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
🦌🦌🦌
@garyturner88984 ай бұрын
Outstanding groups from 50gr to 77gr. Sig Sauer, Norma, Fiocchi, & Remington all load 77gr HPBT in .223 Rem. The Sig is my flavor of choice. Thank you for the follow up on the Gen II Ranch rifle.
@jayblemsin42264 ай бұрын
The sig is really really lightly loaded I wouldn't hunt with it. Whotee if you don't have some Black Hills mk262 I'll donate for some its the bees knees
@garyturner88984 ай бұрын
@@jayblemsin4226 Great point on hunting with Sig. Here in WA state hunting deer with the .223/5.56 is prohibited. The Sig works well on small varmints.
@user-rm6ou4ol5y4 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you for part two , need to do a hunting video with it now !!
@Rickkari74 ай бұрын
Making the Ruger 5.56 look sweet with that shooting. Makes me want to get a BCA 223 Wylde upper for my AR. Right now I got 7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel, both shoot great. The Grendel is my sub moa deer hunter. The 7.62 is a fun running plinker. 223 ammo is so cheap and available everywhere though. Grendel ammo is absurdly high and hardly extant except online or when Academy gets some Eld match back in stock from time to time. Been saving my brass though. Thanks for the thorough testing you do.
@crankygunreviews4 ай бұрын
The American Ranch models are my favorite. I have them in several configurations. I am glad that you’re getting really good group side of these, I am headed pretty good luck with my GEN. One versions as well.
@TMFShooting4 ай бұрын
Very Nice 🤩 Another Great Video Adam 💯Thanks for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@outdoorswithroostercurrie69844 ай бұрын
Awesome Groups Brother.
@gunsnwater26684 ай бұрын
So much for first impressions. Now I got an itch that needs scratching. Gun show this weekend. Who Tee Who!
@Minuteman4Jesus4 ай бұрын
Great video! I've been wondering if I should get a Ruger American. This really helped me make up my mind!
@chrisgabbert6584 ай бұрын
👍😊 it likes plinking and the good stuff.
@thereal-stl_slim4 ай бұрын
I've been waiting to buy until this is figured out! Great video brother!!!💯
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@johnoakley55444 ай бұрын
love to see DRT represented. Wonderful people up there in Albany MO, Beautiful game preserve too. I had no doubt you'd figure this one out. This is coming from a Ruger fan boy. I have a 1-8 in my ar556 it is a tack driver, but the pill has to be hot to stay in my node.
@bryanheimann53704 ай бұрын
Well i am glad you came back with this. Save that remington UMC fmj for plinking.
@briankelly28864 ай бұрын
Very impressive results!
@caddilacjim4 ай бұрын
I guessed the cor bon would do the best and it did.Good to see you found what ammo's the rifle likes.
@czguy30454 ай бұрын
I have one AR that is 1:7" twist and has a 20" barrel and it seems to prefer heavier stuff. A local place (AE Ammo) has the Black Hills stuff that seems consistently pretty good for relatively cheap. 77 Gr Sierra Match King at about $68/50 though it used to be a bit cheaper and the 77 Gr Open Tip Match currently at $65/50 rounds. I bought several boxes of that at $40.
@adventuresteve24004 ай бұрын
Great video man thanks for cracking the code!!! Lol I have the same rifle and was wondering what it would like best. Thanks again Brotherman.
@adventuresteve24004 ай бұрын
Bang bang yeet yeet!
@KeystoneTexan4 ай бұрын
That rifle seems to be grouping very consistent.
@KeystoneTexan4 ай бұрын
I’d also try some 62gr federal fusion too? That’s federals deer load and I’ve had good results with stuff in all of my rifles.
@stemmingtackle4 ай бұрын
Great to see the gen 2 shooting those great groups. Love my gen 1, but sure wish I could lock the bolt when walking in and out of woods like you can on the gen 2.
@whereswaldo57404 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. Bought same gun. Getting same results. Filled in the matrix with 5 minute plumbers epoxy putty in the firearm. Then 1/2” drum sanded even and dishing down in the puttied areas. Strengthened that firearm even more with minimal weight added. Then relieved the magazine release exposing it completely. Contoured and blended that in. Then Flat OD Green spray painted it. Put Smith Enterprises Vortex Gemtech bi lock flash hider on it with the Gemtech G5. Quiet soft shooter. Lightweight short. Portable. Accurate.
@johnlayne-sr9mw4 ай бұрын
Good job dude it definitely likes those cor bond
@paulzyggy4 ай бұрын
Watching from the Uk! Always enjoy your content, try to watch every episode. Keep it coming!
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Appreciate you watching
@petermonck54484 ай бұрын
Nicely done. 👍
@daleweller51934 ай бұрын
I have a mdl 70 Winchester in 7mm that I bought in 1965. It will put the first three shots in a small clover leaf at 100 yards. I can put 150,165, and 175 grain pretty much in the same hole!
@edjett2631Ай бұрын
That's a rifle you never want to part with!
@mikefranklin12534 ай бұрын
It's a PITB when the best shooting ammo is the hardest to find.
@garymessina16094 ай бұрын
Corbon is hard to find great stuff great video thanks
@azrls431854 ай бұрын
Notice how the more you shoot the better the rifle shoots. I wonder if it just needed broke in?
@Brykk4 ай бұрын
For the 1:8 barrel twist, you might try the sabre 62gr black tip ammo. My 1:8 ar15 shoots consistent sub 1” groups with it, and it is extremely affordable.
@craiglovelace17534 ай бұрын
Hornady Frontier 5.56 68gr BTHP shoots .3 and .4” groups consistently out of my Ruger MPR 18” barrel. I Typically handload for all my rifles, but don’t bother with 5.56 and 223 if I can find inexpensive factory ammo that shoots 1/2” or better. Only problem is it’s back ordered across the country from what I can see from all major vendors.
@JackFrostTheDeerHunter4 ай бұрын
considering all were under one inch, perhaps applying a price point per gain in accuracy analysis would be beneficial. Cheers and another good video.
@jolebole-yt4 ай бұрын
Ruger American engineer with a cigar in his mouth smiling in the corner 😉
@justinquamme9164 ай бұрын
That one looks awesome definitely want one in 30-06
@DaveL91704 ай бұрын
Wait about three months. It’ll be here in .30-06.
@kemptonschmitz59564 ай бұрын
@@DaveL9170the ruger website says 30-06 will be released first quarter of this year. We’ll see if that happens or not. Only a few weeks left in the quarter.
@goodnewseverybody7394 ай бұрын
It’s a light stock, you feel all the round, like running a hellcat pistol. A good brake would help, or stock upgrade. The RAR seems to shine with lower recoiling cartridges, the stock only weighs about 11/2 lbs.
@HOHSAWYSBNARTRD4 ай бұрын
Did ya crack the code buddy?😂 I love your videos Whooti keep up the good work 🇺🇸✌🏽
@Catgat373 ай бұрын
I just bought one in 5.56. Zeroing at 25 yards at indoor range with a cheap red dot. I was consistently hitting half inch groups resting on unstable bench and using crap freedom munitions 55gr 5.56. Thing shoots amazingly. Gonna eventually dedicate better optics to it.
@SteveChishamSr4 ай бұрын
Nice video. Great groups
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@R1j0hn4 ай бұрын
The Wolf 55gr & the Remington 50gr are the ONLY two examples I've ever seen, of that entire lot. Can't believe you didn't grab any Hornady (40gr Vmax).
@robjohns55694 ай бұрын
That will work! You saved it !
@swampbiologist4 ай бұрын
No arguments here! Exceptional!
@dragonrider3854 ай бұрын
Some nice groups. 🙂🙂
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Hey dragonrider
@mightus_004 ай бұрын
My Gen 1 Ranch shoots about 0.5" group if i do my part with Hornady Superformance 53gr vmax. Wish they had this design when i got mine, so many good improvements on the gen 2. Love your videos sir.
@gunman-66464 ай бұрын
That cor-bon was excellent!
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Hey gunman!
@wtfsalommy32504 ай бұрын
This Dood is out here finding deals that have better MOA than CMP's Custom Shop😂 💪💪💪
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Spending a ton of $$$ testing ammo, a lot of practice, and sometimes some luck :)
@wtfsalommy32504 ай бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO I know, i keep track :-b Just think, when you're all done with YT, you'll be able to start another business. Cheers Brother, thanks for just being you.
@reapergrim764 ай бұрын
Great stuff! 👍🏻 😊
@l.a.38874 ай бұрын
Grate testing and groups thanks pretty cool 😎 👌 👍 🇺🇸
@jamesbromstead49494 ай бұрын
She's a picky eater, but I think you've narrowed down the factory bullet field. Thanks for the video.
@ajinvista4 ай бұрын
My 1:8 twist likes the Sierra 77gr SMK competition factory stuff.
@toddodell29044 ай бұрын
That 1:8 twist is a fast bullet release I use 62 grain in a 1:10 twist. 22 inch barrel
@trvlace4 ай бұрын
The Corbon is boutique ammo. No fair. You brought in a ringer!
@tombryant45184 ай бұрын
Hopefully you can find some of the Sierra 77 MatchKings to try. I bet they will do well like the Corbon ones did in this video.
@KennyHerring-np3rv4 ай бұрын
Try ordering some gorilla ammo for the next test. Its fantastic stuff. My 5.56 rar loves them . Great video
@WesternReloader4 ай бұрын
Great vid Adam, as always. Now I would like you to buy a lotto ticket. While you’re at it, revisit the 6.8 western.
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
I have tons of 6.8 ammo I bought. Got rid if my 6.8 xpr. Would not group, period. The brownings are more expensive than I am willing to pay to test the 6.8 again
@CJ-by8ij4 ай бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO I've heard good things about the 6.8 Western, but with the caveat being the rifles were expensive. IE: Browning X-bolts & Winchester M70s. My Great-Aunt wants one, but for our area she's already taken everything we're able with her beloved 257 Roberts. (Even a 400lb black bear - but only because it was charging towards her and she thought she was gonna die. I'm thankful it didn't also give her a heart attack. Tough woman. Lol)
@georgeborkenhagen42814 ай бұрын
The rifle appears to be a winner!
@derekedgley50744 ай бұрын
I visited the Cor-Bon facility in Sturgis in 98 courtesy the customer care of Dakota sales executive Paulette Kok whilst collecting a 330 Dakota in a model 76 from the late Don Allen. Cor-Bon provided 200 custom loaded 250g A frame together with 100 unprimed cases. The ammunition proved to be extremely accurate in that rifle here in Scotland on Red Deer and several African safaris on both plains and dangerous game, sadly that rifle died somehow in the care of Air France. I then went on to order another, which has unfortunately never been fired, having gone to U.K. proof but unused since 2006 as now 80 and only fond memories remain.
@derekedgley50744 ай бұрын
I’ve mentioned it previously it helps grouping capabilities if you have your bipod legs slightly loaded as they’re moving around on the bench smooth surface. If you were in a field situation by comparison the feet would probably gain some purchase on the ground surface and not slide around like is happening when you fire hence the shot shot reproducibility is compromised
@clintonlayne92534 ай бұрын
Adam that cor bon is King! Now on a personal note . Get some sleep take a few days off. Your looking Burned out . Spend some time with the Family. I want to see a rested Who tee who
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
I am burned out. But I've got bills to pay. I'm broke. Gotta keep up the videos
@heinrichstoltz13564 ай бұрын
You have now got it pretty dialed.
@geordiegeorge90414 ай бұрын
Corbon still manufacture the 77gr ammo, but it is expensive.
@b.j.cypher4014 ай бұрын
Fiocchi offers a 69gr & 77gr match king as well as a 40gr V-max load. Couple other flavors for your testing.
@billd.akaevylaz7542 ай бұрын
You sure cracked the heck out of that code. Don’t shoot on a windy day when trying to review a new gun. Lmao
@joelobryan12124 ай бұрын
NatchezSS has all the 77 gr factory ammo you want to order. I bench tested 8 different factory 77 gr selections. Remington Premier 77 gr. HPBTwas the best of all of it. However the Nosler 77 gr HPBT was a close second. Any of the rounds that used the Sierra Match King HPBT 77 gr bullet grouped well, but the Remington Premier also had by far the highest muzzle velocity.
@brandiwynter4 ай бұрын
Normally I wouldn't trust a three shot group as a good indicator of accuracy but that Corbon three shot group definitely made a statement. Hopefully you find more or are able to copy the results with hand loads.
@Sep10C4 ай бұрын
Awesome videos as usual mate, keep slingin them boolots.
@grainatatime4 ай бұрын
Probably wear a set of tires out trying to find a box of those corbons haha, but either way definitely some good results from a variety of factory ammo with your rifle. Interested to know what the COAL on those corbons are if you have the time to check seeing as they're that heavy and feed from the pmag.
@user-yf7gj4xz1s4 ай бұрын
Consistent shooting there. Statistically, a group of 3 (at 0.5 moa or less) does not mean the case is snugly and consistently sitting well in the chamber, or the bullet is just tightly gripped by the neck, or backed off to start engraving the lands nice and concentrically. At 5 shots, however, you're scratching the surface, and at 7 you're sniffing the ammonia! Not one of the manufacturers cartridges you fired was a fail IMO. Needs more testing for that 'great fit' tho. My Tikka T3 shoots wee holes with PPU Match 120grain in 6.5 Swedish. Fluked it! Can't handload any better myself. Keep up the good work, WTW, the American is a very good gun for the price.
@lgwappo4 ай бұрын
That Corbon 223 77gr Performance Match HPBT is still on their website.
@johnhayes3094 ай бұрын
I got the same results . 69 gran match king was my best .30 at hundo fifty rounds. Thanks for sharing. Have great day. God bless you and the family.
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@vanmarcell60404 ай бұрын
you need to get a go fund me page to replace them boards on that table.. lol all love. thanks for all the great test video.
@masonsandage65564 ай бұрын
Fort Scott tui makes a 40 grain bullet that I've found works amazing in some rifles. It is very well made ammunition
@christiandore75184 ай бұрын
Would be nice to see you do five shot groups and then throw out the flyer, see what you come up with.
@dannytravis71184 ай бұрын
I'm still wondering why it didn't group well to begin with, but it still does better with the heavier bullets. It's not terrible with 55 grain bullets but it definitely likes the heavier bullets. Which is actually a good thing for catching white tails. I think that if you can find more 77 grain cor bon bullets might be a good choice or some of those 75 grain bullets
@scottscheuerman87144 ай бұрын
I think you can still get sierra 77 grain bullets for reloading
@MedicGeorge4 ай бұрын
Video is great but the old barn is awesome!
@ricblic90120 күн бұрын
I have the American Ranch and I have found the 75gr BTHP Frontier ammo by Hornady works better than 55gr or 68gr Frontier. But that said they all group fine at 50 yards. Really like you content guess that why I'm a subscriber.
@MatthewLane-rm1ni4 ай бұрын
Looks like you got it figured out. For the future ,My Ruger MPR LOVES Sig 5.56 77gr. I’m guessing the 5.56 chamber prefers the slightly different dimensions of 5.56 vs .223. Don’t mistake for the Sig .223 77gr. They make both.
@garyshrum20764 ай бұрын
Great job and a sweet rifle.
@danhufferdoutdoors4 ай бұрын
Heavy, I am finding in my 223 bolt gun it's about speed vs rifling, which every caliber. I would bet those 77 are running 2750 or so, I reckon if you could slow them all down to that they would shoot the same inside 200 yards, just a guess. It might make for a neat experiment
@pbeardy4 ай бұрын
So I was calling out the 77’s as the ones that would group the best based on the twist rate and how this rifle has been trending. I was surprised when you called out the 50’s as a top prospect. In the end it did very well but I thought there would be too much twist for it. What made you call out the 77’s AND the 50’s? Such a swing from heaviest to lightest. Is it due to some previous experience you have with those particular 50’s? No matter the reason- good calls and good shooting!
@garytrainer16904 ай бұрын
In truth.... Never doubted you. Clover leaf. 👍👍
@krodkrod81324 ай бұрын
I went to Scheels and Cabelas and bought 1 box of each. Took 2 stores to find everything in 6.5 PRC to see what my savage liked the best. Some of the ammo was terrible and 3 were close. The best was Hornady 6.5 PRC 147 gr ELD Match.
@edsweeney68434 ай бұрын
Great video and great shooting. What do you think is making the difference between the first video where you were frustrated with the groups and the last 2 videos? Is it a break in period? Seems to like almost anything now - under 1 MOA.
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Hard to say. I need to retry. Maybe the ammo, maybe I was just having a bad day
@TechNWRO4 ай бұрын
Ok, the intro freaked me out.😂
@derekrogers52454 ай бұрын
The group with the 77gr Corbon is the same size of groups I'm getting with AAC 5.56 75gr Sabre Blade Black Tip ammo. 5 shot groups at half moa or better consistently.
@bradenstuart40744 ай бұрын
Also, I bought a PSA 10.5 inch AR, and it shoots about 2 inch groups at 100 yards with 55 grain ball. But with 69,70,75,77 grain it shoots clover leafs at 100. It seemed to like the Hornady Match 75 grain the best. But the best ammo is stuff that is readily available to you! So 55 grain cheap ball ammo is what I’ll shoot! Lol
@Jeff117764 ай бұрын
Heavy bullets. Period!
@TheBeefSlayer4 ай бұрын
When you shoot an awesome group , I would like to see you try and repeat it in the same video to make sure it’s legit and not just accidental point of aim change. 👍 Plus everyone likes seeing awesome groups several times.