🏛️ i finally read circe & other feminist greek myth retellings

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11 ай бұрын

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i'm back with, what looks to be, my monthly video at the minute! today, we're delving into three feminist greek mythological retellings and i'm sharing my thoughts about them with you! i'm super excited to have finally read circe, and i can't wait to see all of your thoughts in the comment section down below!
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@kipepeo259 11 ай бұрын

You holding a little sword during this whole video is CRACKING me up

@grff_ 11 ай бұрын

NO BC I WANTED SOOO BAD FOR PROMETHEUS TO SOMEHOW SEE CIRCE AGAIN That small conversation, that interaction right at the beginning was the first catalyst for what Circe becomes and i wanted her to have some sort of closure to that bc i couldn't stop thinking about it! She never forgot either which was so satisfying. Edit: NO BC I WANTED HER TO TEACH PENELOPE AND THEY FALL IN LOVE😭😭😭

@SophieLoves1Dxxxx 11 ай бұрын

Circe was perfection to me👏🏻

@sercemwksiazkach3446 11 ай бұрын

I’m so glad you liked Circe! I ADORED this book, Circe’s journey to self-discovery and the social commentary of it. I miiiight even like it more than The Song of Achilles, albeit I truly love both. I’ll probably be reading the other mythology retellings soon, I’m in a huge mythology mood lately. I was even considering reading The Iliad so it’s serious business 😆

@seochangbinsarms 11 ай бұрын

OMG STOP CIRCI IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE BOOKS

@angelaholmes8888 11 ай бұрын

That book is so good

@PokhrajRoy. 11 ай бұрын

Happy Pride Month 🌈 The month is about to be over but I send everyone good vibes nonetheless.

@morganmeadowes6861 11 ай бұрын

Happy Pride to you, too! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

@maybeimacat3183 11 ай бұрын

I LOVED circe, tho it's a dense and slow read (it took me 4 months to read it on and off), I'm excited to see your opinion! I really wanna read Ariadne as well hehe

@oliverreuben8056 11 ай бұрын

I will never get over your channel intro ✨✨CIRCE IS ELITE

@oliviamorris441 11 ай бұрын

Wow I love the intro. Just so cute and cozy ❤. I also love how honest and open you are with your reviews, it’s very refreshing.

@eri1193 11 ай бұрын

💫The way Joel’s outfits match the book covers>>> 💫Exactly!! I describe Circe as witchy cottagecore myth retelling 🙌

@chaptercarys 11 ай бұрын

I absolutely ADORED Circe and Ariadne 🤍 Stone Blind is on my shelf rn just waiting to be read ✨

@spexi513 10 ай бұрын

It IS always men, which is why I love these Greek mythological retellings ; they give voices to those previously silenced & insight into our current patriarchal societies. I’ve read quite a few, but Circe remains my favorite, followed by Clytemnestra. Appreciate the video though I’m a month tardy 📖🪱💚

@jenskosmos 11 ай бұрын

"Just girly things to consider" 😂😂😂😂 i really liked ariadne!

@acrynellys 11 ай бұрын

It's so nice to see you again! And you're not alone - I'm currently battling out of my own reading slump 😅 The focus of Asian Readathon last month really helped 👍👍 Every time someone talks about the current wave of feminist Greek retellings, I feel compelled to mention Lavinia by Ursula K. Le Guin, because it's brilliant, no one talks about it, and she was years ahead of the curve (2008!)

@ajthecosmonaut1870 11 ай бұрын

Loving the sword microphone. A lovely addition to the new phase

@CityGirlWriter 11 ай бұрын

Definitely loving the sword microphone! It's a keeper. Happy to hear that you enjoyed these books. I haven't read them, but maybe I would.

@danielabarrientos9386 11 ай бұрын

10:00 This is a beautiful shot frame!!! you with Circe and the art in the background, so pretty!!!

@TransmanLibrary 10 ай бұрын

I can't express how much I love your videos

@HoneyRa8bit 11 ай бұрын

Yes! Finally! Time to relax 😌 Hope you’re doing well, love your videos❤

@valeriuxe 11 ай бұрын

Fiona Benson's Vertigo & Ghost is also a really good one. It's a collection of poems on sexuality and more than a few pieces are about Zeus being a predator. Of course, not exactly a feminist retelling but Ovid's Metamorphoses is also a great book showcasing on several parts how gods make use of their power to do sexual crimes.

@marylcunha 11 ай бұрын

the joy your videos bring me is unmatched ✨

@venuso6260 11 ай бұрын

haven't started watching the video yet but HAD to quickly comment on how much I absolutely adore your new designs you've created for your channel!!! like that intro???? BREATHTAKING (I know this isn't like the first time these designs have been used of course but I just felt the need to actually comment for once. I hope you know exactly how much we all appreciate your effort in these amazing designs and all the stuff that you do!!!!)

@ChemicalPenguinn 11 ай бұрын

I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who watched The Sarah Jane Adventures when I was younger!

@francescakyanda9182 8 ай бұрын

the thumbnail title is a big and forever mood

@indigomoon22 11 ай бұрын

This was a fascinating video. I haven't read any Greek myths books but would be interested in delving into Circe. There were so many things I loved about this video! 1) Your reference to the sarah jane adventures!! Adore that series :) 2) Seeing your Bitterthorn exclusive edition. Would love to hear your thoughts on it! 3) Where did you get your shirt with the birds on it? It's so cool!! Cheers, Joel!

@excusemeummiloveyou 10 ай бұрын

I’m new to reading and I absolutely adore your videos! ❤

@PokhrajRoy. 11 ай бұрын

It’s nice to see a video from you again! It’s been quite the hiatus.

@eml5194 11 ай бұрын

I guess I have some reading to do☺️

11 ай бұрын

what a delight! and for my birthday! thank you

@brandondonaldson760 11 ай бұрын

I’m glad you’re back 😌

@gavinstevens5524 11 ай бұрын

I absolutely love Circe! I read it a couple months after it came out and I just devoured it. Madeline Miller really knows how to write such beautiful books with so much depth and emotion. I'm actually currently reading stone blind right now and I'm really not liking the lack of Medusa and I'm also not a big fan of how Athena is portrayed as a kind of childlike whiny person because in my mind she's either deeply stoic or “I’ll do it myself” vibes From mythology so I wasn't particularly fond of that. Also currently reading Ithaca by Claire North and really liking that a lot because I'm kind of getting tired of the repetitiveness of like the Trojan War and the Trojan women. It's nice to get other people's perspective Besides the women that are constantly talked about during the Trojan War. It would be nice if we could have more mail retellings like the song of Achilles even if they're portrayed as awful men ( love a good protagonist that you hate).

@tspacefullstop4161 11 ай бұрын

I adore Circe so I had to read The Song of Achilles.❤

@Cat-lp1be 11 ай бұрын

Love this! I compared Circe and The Power for my English coursework - one of the best (and my favourite) essays to write! Also, please read Fourth Wing... would be intrigued to know your thoughts :D

@miguelpcarpio 10 ай бұрын

The shirt when you were talking about Ariadne!!!

@GwenlinThegremlin666 7 ай бұрын

yes omg im so happy when you said that about circe and penelope I WANTED THEM TO BE LIKE TOGETHER SO BAD AND THEN THEY CAN LIVE ON THE ISLAND TOGETHER WITH BOTH THERE SONS LIKE I WANTED THAT SO BAD

@rubypowell3959 8 ай бұрын

Defo recommend the wolf den by Elodie Harper, it’s based in ancient pompeii surrounding a brothel

@JayGTheAwkwardBookworm 11 ай бұрын

THE SWORD😂

@Lorie336 11 ай бұрын

I have read all three of Madeline Miller's Greek retellings and loved them! Her writing and the way she weaves a story is perfection. Also, Scylla got what she deserved in Circe. 😄. I am up to date on acquiring Jennifer Saint books, but have only read 2 out of the 3 and, yes, she's like a Madeline Miller. I liked that in Elektra you did get three perspectives and I was torn between all three. When I read Ariadne I had to go back and look at the myth, and, yeah pissed me off with how men got away with everything. Thank you Kratos for killing Theseus in the game God of War 2, I feel justified. As for Natalie Haynes I have acquired almost all of her books, but I don't think I have read any yet or I have read one book, will have to consult my app for that, but even if I haven't her books have intrigued me and am excited to dive into her books. So glad you finally read Circe, I think this one made me cry more than Song of Achilles. 😊💕💕💕

@ohnoits 9 ай бұрын

Hey Joel, are you going to make an updated version of Isaac’s reading list for Heartstopper S2??

@fictionalfates 9 ай бұрын

currently working on it!

@marystevens1476 7 ай бұрын

I would recommend Medusa by Rosie Hewlett in which Medusa tells her own story in 1st person.

@annablattler2556 11 ай бұрын

Elektra is even better than Ariadne, you need to read it!!😍😍

@papertownsgraphic 11 ай бұрын

waffles for breakfast, hot chocolate and a new Joel video? I'm having a great morning

@brennamacinnis8987 8 ай бұрын

From what I recall, Natalie Haynes discussed in an interview that while researching Medusa’s mythos and iconography, there was little source material to pull from to justify a novel-length book, so she added in various character voices both to fill out the story and explore the thematic idea of “blindness” in a world as misogynistic as Greek Mythology. Nonetheless, it was a disappointing read. I agree that for a story supposedly about Medusa we didn’t get as much of her as we should have. In the chapters where we do explore her and her sisters it is a solid retelling, humorous, thoughtful, and emotionally compelling. But in other chapters, it feels more like Perseus’ story, or Athena’s story, or someone else’s story, and our leading lady gets pushed to the side. I can see what Natalie was aiming for, but, for me, it didn’t work as a central narrative. If Stone Blind had been advertised as a thematic take on a number of different stories, like A Thousand Ships, and not merely Medusa’s story, maybe it would’ve gone down better.

@PokhrajRoy. 11 ай бұрын

I’ve heard great things about the Greek Mythological Feminist Retellings which really blew up and I hope it inspired other women and or queer writers to present their interpretations.

@shanslife3953 11 ай бұрын

Stop! I loved Sarah Jane adventures! Great video x

@darkishphoenix 7 ай бұрын

I really loved Circe which is why I read Ariadne a month ago and I thought it was...fine. Like, I still enjoyed it, but I didn't feel as moved as I had with Madeline Miller's books. I think one of my issues was how much saint kept relying Ovid's version of the myths, which isn't anywhere near as old as other versions. I also really liked what she did with Phaedra in the beginning and middle but I felt the jump to her final version wasn't...earned I guess is the rigght word? Like, I get how she had to get to some version of Phaedra's predominant myth but it felt clumsy. I also felt a missed opportunity in Dionysus, who has a *lot* of mythology to draw from and had one of the most predominant mystery cults that I felt overall the work didn't feel as deep as miller's works

@HeidiCampuzano-ln2mt 11 ай бұрын

I loved this video ❤️😊

@pavlinazitkova 7 ай бұрын

Great video. 🤩🤩

@polinakrivonosova 11 ай бұрын

started circe yesterday!

@marimontes1226 11 ай бұрын

WHAT A TITLE, YES

@user-qu8zs7vs1x 11 ай бұрын

I'm curious what others think: which Jennifer Saint book is the most fast-paced? I've been meaning to pick one of her books up but someone told me they can be a bit slow and right now I know if a book has a slow start it's very likely to put me in a reading slump. So I'd love to hear which options are a bit more fast paced

@Megha486 4 ай бұрын

Please read The Silence of the Girls (#1) and The Women of Troy (#2) by Pat Barker ❤

@Victoria-fs9jo 11 ай бұрын

Have you read The Secret History?

@JulieTheReader 11 ай бұрын

🏺Loved Circe so, so much. Clytemnestra by Costanza Casati had beautiful writing, but I wasn’t in a place to feel as sad as the story was making me. Lots of terrible men in this one, too.

@asterismos5451 10 ай бұрын

Is Clytemnestra a book that wants you to hate all men or is it like "this woman is angry and hates men for valid reasons, also women can be awful too"? I found Ariadne really annoying in how it basically just made the men in the story at fault for everything and the women free of blame or at least sympathetic in a way the men were never allowed to be, which is not what I had ever gotten from the myths, where the men suck but so do the women, and that makes the story way more interesting. So if it's just like Ariadne I'm not really looking to read something like that again but if it's got nuance and allows the women to also be awful then that would be great, because the Clytemnestra myth is very cool.

@emilyk8305 11 ай бұрын

Well the mic sounds good but you pointing the pointy end at your face at all times does concern me 😭😭

@percydoeseverything 11 ай бұрын

Reading Greek retelling or just the myths in general, you just realise what absolute douches the men are hahaha it's true tho, so many women just gets killed or punished for no apparent reason.