Thinking quickly, Andy crafted a camera using some glass, duct tape, and a camera.
@htme Жыл бұрын
That's the exact meme that went through my head when I decided to just use a camera instead of a scanner.
@ThaEurasian Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when Homer carved a chili spoon out of a better spoon
@kchorman Жыл бұрын
Tbf, using film, then processing it, would then still require a digital scanner to get it on Instagram or whatever. The point is he made, by himself with no modern equipment, functioning lenses. The complete camera will come later.
@user-et2dx5du7e Жыл бұрын
@@ThaEurasiani did a thing did that
@Ewr42 Жыл бұрын
@@user-et2dx5du7eI did a thing did indeed do that thing
@aachor Жыл бұрын
Very cool project! As a photographer who has never built his own camera (but who loves playing with antique lenses), I have a couple of suggestions for your consideration: 1. Just as how with a pinhole camera, a smaller pinhole will result in a sharper, but dimmer image- you may consider adding an aperture or a mask to act like an aperture immediately behind the lens to force the light through a more narrow opening. This could result in a sharper focus. It should also make the edges of the image more in focus relative to the center. This increase in sharpness is more than what's offered by the expanded depth of field. It's an increase in maximum sharpness, and I believe it's due to a reduced angle of incidence. Which leads me to the next item... 2. If you ever go to remake your lenses, you might try to reduce your angle of incidence by reducing your curvature, and instead rely on the distance between the focal elements to get the light to where you want it to go rather than extreme curvature. The greater the angle of incidence between the lens' surfaces, the more critical a perfect polish and flawless glass becomes. And, in general, the more difficulty you will have in getting a sharp focus- particularly around the edges. One of the reason that modern lenses have so many elements is because it's an attempt to minimize the angle that the light is bending with each surface plane it intersects while still having a compact lens. Instead of a few planes with sharp bends, you get more planes with slight bends. Anyways, awesome video!! I look forward to seeing more!
@AmazingFalcon276 Жыл бұрын
I second this. I know nothing about the magnifying properties of glass except how it pertains to eyeglasses. What I do know is that cameras are a lot like eyes and pretty much everything you stated is what I was going to say.
@michelhv Жыл бұрын
Get a copy of Rudolf Kingslake’s History of the Photographic Lens for a primer on the principles of historical lenses. Alignment and tolerances are super critical in optics. Also, you should look into Calotype (aka salted paper) as it’s one of the earliest and easiest processes.
@samstewart4444 Жыл бұрын
Old cameras used very bright light sources. In the 1960s, a hand held motion picture camera came with an array of very hot light bulbs.
@mightisright Жыл бұрын
Yes, because usable film stocks were far less sensitive than current digital sensors. The images we see now (especially at night) were impossible to create without arrays of high lumen incandescent bulbs, using far more energy and putting out far more heat than the LED-based lights available today. The most sensitive film available was 3 or 4 stops above 100 ISO and produced large grain, ugly images mostly suitable for science experiments. While there is a limit to how much light a lens can transmit, the digital revolution made up for that with sensors that make it possible to see nearly as well as a nocturnal animal.
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
@@mightisrightit’s been a real wild ride living through digital sensors having way worse sensitivity than film, to far surpassing film and even our own eyes
@TonoDeAbajo Жыл бұрын
Right! I was wondering if stronger lighting would improve the quality of the shot or not.
@igotp1zza Жыл бұрын
I'm glad y'all are still able to keep on going.
@rexmcstiller4675 Жыл бұрын
Making a glas window would be a nice step in the reset series to unlock glas sheets.
@HapppyMann Жыл бұрын
float glass
@hypocriticalgrammarnazi Жыл бұрын
Are you German?
@rexmcstiller4675 Жыл бұрын
@@hypocriticalgrammarnazi yes
@enisra_bowman Жыл бұрын
ye, Windows would be quite interesing and can dispell the myth that "glas floats and therefore is thicker at the bottom" when it's more that it wasn't flat to begin with aaand the the really ancient glas ware from Romans or pharaos hasn't really deformed
@FrauWNiemand9 ай бұрын
Oh man, I'd vove to see any making coloured glass tiles and putting them together with some metal into a coloured class mosaic picture.
@Golden_SnowFlake Жыл бұрын
Beautiful premise for a booth! great job! It was the best kind of booth, interactive with a lasting impression!
@ChristofFritz Жыл бұрын
Super awesome project. The images look surprisingly good! But I have to get some critique out of my system: 1. No backup, no mercy. 2. Don't fumble around with ribbon cables, they're delicate
@BryceDixonDev Жыл бұрын
Regarding the SD card corruption: next time make the SD card read-only once you have everything set up. A lot of people who run Pis for servers and things will keep the SD cards as read-only with just the OS and then use a USB drive (or other external harddrive) so the SD card can never get corrupted. Source control would also help. It sounded like you lost all of your code; I've struggled with that enough times that at this point I don't start a single project without setting up a GitHub repository.
@ZirconGames Жыл бұрын
Really cool! Been here since the original lenses series and im not planning on leaving any time soon!
@Timeno123 Жыл бұрын
I think what might help your channel is making stuff both for fun in the modern day but as a separate series doing your from scratch work. I don't mind the from scratch stuff but do miss you just learning stuff without the small handycaps. Keep up the good work
@ThomasSchannel Жыл бұрын
Agreed, A while back after the recent fire he did a survey asking us what we would want etc. I remember commenting something very much like your comment, I think I said something about that with the reset because he's trying to do it linearly and "unlock" stuff , if he fails then it kinda haults video releases too. I also really liked the early days where he would remake stuff from scratch today, and show how much work goes into a normal sandwich (like $500). The 'show' is asking a question about can you rebuild society from scratch by one man, but often times they would prove no you can't. As Andy would get help from people who knew what they were doing. I remember a woman who used to help him with weaving/looming etc Which is great, it was like making a poignant statement that human civilisation was built by multiple people WORKING together. And Andy was more of a host talking to experts and educational. I understand the reason why he did the restart , but we lost a of potential/momentum. Becuase at the end of the day Andy is a regular dude and doesn't have the right skills for everything he's trying to do. Because of the reset he didn't even have an anvil, which made his other projects much more difficult. I've often compared this show to something like Mythbusters, and I think if Andy and the team did what they used to do where if the myth failed they would find out what it would take to make it work. So if we had andy try to make something and then fail, he then could bring in an 'expert' and find out how to make it. Which would show the value of the skills/knowledge that person and trade has. ---- TLDR: Agreed.
@dunzerkug Жыл бұрын
Important advice for anyone doing highly configured/customized Rasbian set ups, get it configured how you want and create an image file you can flash a new SD card with in the future so you can possibly save hours of time if the card corrupts in the future. If you are doing something tomorrow, image it the night before, maybe make a spare SD card so downtime is just how long it takes to reboot after a crash.
@chrisbolland5634 Жыл бұрын
This was my most favorite project you did before the reset, and I was sad I'd never get a follow up. AMAZING work on this.
@jasonmorello1374 Жыл бұрын
I think your main remaining issue might be axial alignment. Basically curve and and centering of the lenses to each other.
@SapioiT Жыл бұрын
You know, having wood veneer would have come in really handy, for making the telescopic part for the lenses. So I think that one of the projects after calculating what electric motor you can use to equal the water rotating the waterwheel, and after testing multiple methods of power transmission and power conversion between torque and speed, should be making a machine for making veneer from a log (rotating it) or from a plank (shaving it like with a wood plane), and then using the veneer to make a book using charcoal for painting and a mixture of oil and wax for waterproofing the written paper and sealing the ink in place.
@ThomasSchannel Жыл бұрын
Great episode, maybe bring in another expert on old cameras etc? It would be great to see some more colabs :)
@izaaklara7278 Жыл бұрын
I used a camera to build a camera. I love this channel 😂
@millermichael Жыл бұрын
the reason the pictures could be so blurry is the fact that maybe the camera itself is out of focus. one of the major things that photographers had to deal with regarding mechanical cameras was having to get the lenses in focus for the sensor to pick up.
@graysonstumbo1806 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see you implement the daguerreotype later on. The film process doesn’t seem to hard, and I’m sure theirs people who are experts on the topic.
@benjamincassell3338 Жыл бұрын
I think he may want to avoid using mercury vapor...
@graysonstumbo1806 Жыл бұрын
@@benjamincassell3338 Theirs alternative methods, Mercury isn’t always needed.
@resurgam_b7 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to buy manufactured equivalents of all the components, assemble them into an identical camera and take a picture with that to see what the theoretical maximum achievable quality is. That way you have a target to know how much better is possible and you're not striving for something that may not actually be feasible with your current configuration.
@OnnieKoski Жыл бұрын
some more great work! i'd recomned trying an actual ground glass plane instead of the plastic one and also seeing if it produces better images if you use a DSLR instead of you (very clever) raspberry pi scanner. the glass might be performing a lot better than you think!
@harsha1306 Жыл бұрын
Did you try to validate the RPi system with an actual camera lens to see if that wasn't introducing the blur? Also using a scanner to scan an image was a really an interesting idea!
@Ithirahad9 ай бұрын
People have actually made really excellent pictures using scanners as ad-hoc pushbroom imagers. The resulting images generally have essentially flawless quality and a very specific aesthetic to them. A lot of work is involved in modifying the scanner to do that though, and obviously they were using good quality modern optics...
@jackindustriesanimates8 ай бұрын
5:06 it's a camera inside of a camera. Top tier photography.
@h7opolo Жыл бұрын
you achieved an excellent result in making your workshop look rustic, imo.
@Emu0181 Жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a cheap and relatively available ground glass analog, try cinematic/theatrical diffusion gel. Comes in lots of different gradients
@SlavicPickle Жыл бұрын
From what I remember, is the graininess is caused by not enough light getting into the lenses, that's why old cameras had such large flash boxes
@Thepeepbros Жыл бұрын
I love this project! Everyone knows how a camera works, but how they get made on a technical level is a science only known to so few!
@FrauWNiemand9 ай бұрын
This was one of my favorite projects and I always felt mad about the broken lens. It is indeed a cool idea for this event for sure. I think the blurryness comes from the cristal structure of the glass lens itself. The light is bowed at some point through the lens and the image which actually can be captured by the sensor has gone through these crystal structures. BUT When you have binoculars and a blury image, you have the oportunity to move the lenses carefully by moving the diopter wheel until it is sharp. Maybe you have just to adjust the distance between lenses.
@BlackthorneSoundandCinema Жыл бұрын
I think that the image quality issue is more from the separate camera shooting the diffusion and fresnel rather than the lens itself. If you made a lens that was designed to project directly onto a 35mm sensor made the same way it would look completely different and far better.
@umbertorodrigez821311 ай бұрын
The problem with light around the edges of the lens is famous. Galileo talks about it in sidereus nuncius I think.
@gcl2783 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work despite the struggle
@Sticktube8789 ай бұрын
People didn't use film at the start of photography. I believe the first was a polished copper plate. Then it went to glass. Then film. Some even took the photo directly on sensitized paper. You have plenty of options. Film would be the most difficult. But hey. If you think you could do it, I'd love to see it. Sounds like fun! Love your videos by the way!
@BDJones0558 ай бұрын
Everytime I work up a head of steam to try out making my own lens, I watch Hyugens Optics. That usually puts me back in my place lol. Lens making is a craft featuring equal parts art and science.
@andyvue2418 Жыл бұрын
Yay finally continuing on with the camera
@Hclann13 ай бұрын
I just found your videos and love them. Of course everything you make is a pain in the butt and frustrating, otherwise we would have had them for thousands of years. Most things are incrementally improved, and that can’t even happen until someone else makes a new tool that applies. I can’t wait to see you try to make your first microchip. Seriously though, it would be nice to see you make different kinds of anesthetics from scratch.
@raduorza883 Жыл бұрын
That crack on the lens gives the camera character! Such a wonderful project! Thank you for the great content!
@mayonaden Жыл бұрын
I continue to be impressed by you, not only because of the great achievements you make, but also the fact that you are making them in spite of your undeniable clumsiness.
@BrassMtn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for attempting this project again!!! It’s tough man!! You did a bad ass job!!!! Thank you again for doing it again, and better! Keep your head in the game and continue to do the content you are great at!!!
@comfortablegrey Жыл бұрын
I love how Andy keeps trying, practicing, and improving. Just like in real life!
@nasonguy Жыл бұрын
11:40 aahhhh, the importance of solid backups... Nobody ever things they're needed until they're REALLY needed.
@not_lavender4498 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Wish I could have been at open sauce
@Yuru_Baku Жыл бұрын
Entirely Ditching the ground glass and only using a fresnel lens would probably help a lot as both acomplish the same job of projecting onto a 'clear' plane. Only the fresnes is less grainy and a lot brighter.
@john95713 Жыл бұрын
I suggested this idea back when you did the survey a few years ago! Not sure if thats where you got the idea but its so cool that you did it!
@drunkredninja Жыл бұрын
i mean this endearingly but this is the most absolute professionally jank maker channel on yt
@BBROPHOTO Жыл бұрын
Considering how large the front element is and how short the focal length is, that's going to one hecking fast lens! That likely is your issue with the resulting softness. Creating fast aperture, wide angle lenses is really really tricky. Narrowing the aperture down synthetically with an aperture mask or blades would help a lot, as it does in the real photography world. Look at how crappy some of the early fast lenses were and how big of a difference stopping down from F1.4 to F4 would be. Finally, your actual back focus might be off. Even if your lens is perfectly in focus with pristine optics, if the sensor is too close or too far away it won't reach critical focus and that'll be exacerbated by a fast aperture lens.
@sbcinema Жыл бұрын
I think I can help you there, as a photographer who works with old cameras, i know that a image that is projected onto a surface like the ground glass will never be really sharp, which is why it was removed from old cameras before the negative was inserted. It is best if the sensor is placed exactly where the glass was.
@yxx_chris_xxy9 ай бұрын
He has a large-format lens and a tiny sensor, so he follows the "digital obscura" approach. He can't do what you suggest, even though you'd otherwise be right.
@markedis5902 Жыл бұрын
The process is why I’ve watched all your videos over the past 4 years
@bakerstudio9335 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this channel!
@TheWayneStevenson6 ай бұрын
First off, great job. You've done what I have dreamt of doing for over a decade (making glass, and making a lens with it). I have also had plans to make a large format scanner back camera. I think a couple of your biggest issues is getting your image and/or sensor in the focal plane. When focusing on your ground glass, did you factor in the glass thickness? Also, you may have been able to bypass your "focusing screen" altogether by simply having the scanner's optics in your lens's focal plane. It should then be capturing the image coming straight out of the lens.
@alvinjunier6644 Жыл бұрын
Camera for a camera. I thought this was a reset episode.😂
@FullModernAlchemist11 ай бұрын
I LOVE that you’re going to try to make your own film. I went through the process of making my own photographic paper and developer from scratch and that was quite a challenge. I did eventually get a usable image from it. It’s not the most difficult thing I’ve done but it’s up there on the list. Idk if I can be of any assistance but if you ever need help I’d be happy to help however I can.
@DrW33kend Жыл бұрын
It was so great to meet you at the creator talk! Thanks for doing what you're doing and answering our increasingly bizarre questions! I was that fella with the jean vest and oval glasses lol.
@thumbtak123 Жыл бұрын
Another idea is a scanner for a cellphone. They do make them. Unsure if it would work, but it is an idea.
@nathanpfirman625 Жыл бұрын
The cameraman has been born! While the camera may have only just been created the camera transcends time itself as it has always spiritually been reborn into a new being to document the world and now we are watching it’s form be finally created. Such an amazing event to watch!
@GUCR4411 ай бұрын
Need an Iris to increase f stop to widen the feild of focus... Need alot of light but I think that would make a big difference.. Just a peice of wood with different holes to try it out maybe??
@micahphilson Жыл бұрын
Still so hard for me to see you making glass without thinking of that time you were cutting it with a circular bit in your sink, haha!
@DragonFiesta Жыл бұрын
you add something like the explosive flash those old cameras had and it would be perfect
@shanegibbens Жыл бұрын
Great video Andy, looking forward to the next one! If ya ever find yourself out in Waconia let me know and ill gladly buy ya a beer!
@adamosburn754 Жыл бұрын
Always be sure to back up work on an external drive. Then corruption doesn't take more time, just reinstall the data from the external drive. Lessons learned the hard way provide solutions to make future lessons easier to learn and recover from.
@btmonz8383 Жыл бұрын
The photos generated are quite cool!
@ShroomedMisterCraft Жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for this for sooo long! this is so awesome
@testsubject39 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos and I get excited when a new one is released
@nilanjanchakraborty22236 ай бұрын
i am also trying to make a lens for my final 8×10 cam from past 4 months. my 1st prototype 5×5 cam which made last year with some black card board, magnifying glass , some sheet from lcd display was good. though i am checking out everyday, what i can do next improvment. i also had taken first 2 photos from it. it feels creazy when you will see the ground glass. also i have no fresnel lens in it. lot more obstructions to do. but also you did a great job. appreciate you.
@kidheadcase Жыл бұрын
A task of Herculean proportions. Just amazing
@Hexlattice10 ай бұрын
I think it's very considerate of you to blur the faces of all the people who tried it out! 😁
@hedgehog31804 ай бұрын
You should try making a telescope as the step just before a camera, and also because of the historical significance of the telescope and astronomy in developing the scientific method.
@jingyujoung9737 Жыл бұрын
i remember when i first saw that camera, i was really surprised
@mrrubyspeaks Жыл бұрын
Seriously impressive
@mikeward8079 Жыл бұрын
Luckily for the editor the whole “blurring strangers faces” thing is pretty much done on site lol
@coldstone01 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. That work is definitely filling just by watching you do all that. Also, I wonder, is there wet silver plate photography? I'm sure there might be some part of the filming that started photography that should be possible to reproduce before getting into current modern films. either way awesome work again HTME.
@nickg5250 Жыл бұрын
outstanding channel as always
@MyrKnof Жыл бұрын
more light for the iso and shutter you are at would improve clarity i think. Longer expsure might also help, at lower iso. That would ironically mean blurry photos if people didnt stand still..
@dominiczibuda5232 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching it
@theprancingprussian11 ай бұрын
If you get enough knowledge you could do a cameo with a chemistry KZfaqr to make aluminium like it was in the 1850/60s using that periods electronics
@steadfasttherenowned2460 Жыл бұрын
Need a better sensor. And fine focusing. Maybe repurpose a micrometre for dialling in the focus. It will look better on film as it is now.
@ghrrum Жыл бұрын
Keep being awesome man,
@KryAkuma8 ай бұрын
As a photographer and not a glass maker or lense expert. I think what would increase those quality of the image would be more light.
@jeremiahbaker985 Жыл бұрын
I would look into telescope making literature for fixing the sharpness on your lenses. There are ways to test the accuracy of the curvature of your lense surfaces to ensure a crisp sharp focus.
@itarry4 Жыл бұрын
Maybe make back ups of any programming you do etc on your computer so if the SD card gets corrupted you can just reload it. Oh try a strong spot light or better 2 with the camera it'll really help the image. Also are your lenses aligned right?
@guard13007 Жыл бұрын
Ouch. This is why I always create documentation and copies of my setup on any operating system. If it ever goes byebye, I can usually recreate it much quicker.
@Gumbocinno7 ай бұрын
I was gonna make a joke about how you're the guy that makes the crappy security cameras, but I think it looks better
@Justreebie Жыл бұрын
The diffuse layer
@nichlasbundgaard5583 Жыл бұрын
Well.. i haven't watched the video/s where you make the lens and glass, and i might be completely wrong here as well, but here's some thoughts as to why the images aren't as sharp as you might have hoped. 1: This one is certainly the thing i have the least amount of knowledge of. Maybe your glass isn't as smooth as it should? I mean you can polish it til you go through it and all, but is there's "large grains" in the glass itself then no amount of polishing will help as you only make those grain larger by magnifying them.. right? 2: Many have said this, but light is important. I would also suggest testing where your lens works at its best. While you can buy a lens that says 60mm-100mm its best performance might be at 80mm. 3: Maybe try moving the magnifying element further or closer to the outer glass if possible? You have probably thought of/tried these things already, but they are my surface thoughts nonetheless. Something that just hit me. The scanner part you use, isn't that supposed to magnify things that are really close to it? I know the glass helps the zoom part of the thing, but could that be the problem?
@Kilomylesco Жыл бұрын
You could use a Polaroid back to get quicker results in an analogue form ;)
@aviphysics Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could try reflective optics instead of transmissive, so you don't have to deal with glass clarity.
@Chrisfrom_Dallas Жыл бұрын
Making a glass plate with silver is much better than all the extra you're going through
@GeneralNickles Жыл бұрын
I swear like twice a week I learn about someone else that went to open sauce. Man I wish I could've went. I hope they do it again next year. I'm definitely going if they do.
@benjaminred2003 Жыл бұрын
i got to use that it was realy cool
@ladyk7019 Жыл бұрын
Youd probably want to make brass sheeting and use that
@zephal Жыл бұрын
I think it is time for a colab with Huygens Optics. He grinds his own optical lenses, he could probably help you out with this.
@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
Very cool! If you ever need more sand, our mine is happy to help ;-)
@ashermadigan7608 Жыл бұрын
You should try and make an antikythera
@x9x9x9x9x9 Жыл бұрын
The photo at 0:09 where is William in that photo? Did he miss going to Crunch Labs because the event? That photo is so cool though.
@tmonkey3323 Жыл бұрын
such an awesome channel
@tomray8765 Жыл бұрын
How about recording SOUND. The principal is so simple it's a wonder the Ancients didn't do it. If a disk or cylinder is too complex, a strip of metalic foil, pulled under the needle and wound on to a reel might work well too as an impression surface. A tin horn could amplify the sound of the needle vibrated diaphragm to play it and recording could be done by simply speaking into the horn as the metal strip is pulled under the needle.----- The recording needle and playback needle would need to be different though the former would have to plow a grove in the recording surface and the playback needle would have to be a bit duller to just RIDE the groove.
@chicken91753 ай бұрын
Don't worry about the picture quality too much. Tbh, you're doing, all by yourself, what took decades of trial and error by scientists, engineers, and craftsmen. Of course it won't be as clear, so don't be too hard on it. It'll come out better next time!
@zZiL341yRj736 Жыл бұрын
With the scar, his Harry Potter transformation is complete.
@nenben87596 ай бұрын
something that might help crispness is lighting
@cbarker002 Жыл бұрын
Daguerreotype plate might be the easier to make than a nitro cellulose or plastic based film
@DH-xw6jp Жыл бұрын
Finally going back to refine old projects, and this is the one you choose?