Here’s hoping!

Thanks Roy

Me to!

@@OldeCarrGuy the body doesn't have rust so if you don't want to fix the engine put a new 4.6 in and then sell it if you don't want it

@@harjinatorconstipator8732 This was only the first video in this series. there is plenty more! Thanks for watching.

The 02 is a low mileage car but is too far gone rust-wise. That's why its a parts car.

@@OldeCarrGuy Gotcha. I have a 2003 my parents gave me but they bought it new in 2003 and it is very clean. I did have to change the lower intake where the thermostat housing leaks and I put the Ford one on because It had the inserts for the coil bolts and I got it on Ebay for 190.

Sad state of affairs right there!

Good call Pieter. This is exactly what the next step is. Stay tuned.

Thanks for sharing

They all deserve to live.

I'm right there with your Robert!

If i was a betting man, I'd say chain tensioner failure regardless of new or not. But we'll get there!

When you say drove by braille do you mean they hit everything but the lottery? lol

Stay tuned!

Thanks

Hard to turn down a good offer! Sounds like a true gem!

The interceptor motor is a 4.6 2 valve. The same motor that comes in this car 🤣

@@samholdsworth420 Not sure what I said was funny to you but hey, whatever. That same motor came in a LOT of Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars over the years.

@@FredFukkinBear just saying all panther platform cars from 92/93 up had the same engine as the police interceptors.

@@FredFukkinBear i think that he was laughing because the interceptor motor isnt actually anything more than a tune that is programmed into the ecm and that really only entails removing the speed limiter and maybe slightly more fuel. the engine in and of itself though is exactly the same. outside of the engine you had better radiators and more cooling for the transmission better suspension, different gearing, and various other things like that. the engine though isnt any different internally. the days of the police engines being souped up are over as it is all about the computers and the tunes that reside in them.

That would be cool! Thanks

Thanks Pen

Thanks Andy.

Ain't that a kick in the pants. That's why I always look for the simple stuff first before I get too dirty.

@@OldeCarrGuy There was just no way to know unless you pulled the clutch fan off and for some people they don't have the proper spanner wrench to do that plus you would then have to remove the actual clutch to see behind it. So the cool thing was it's a 21-year-old vehicle with very low mileage however the bad thing is that it's a 20 some year old vehicle with very low mileage LOL. I've also found out through some research that the HVAC case are very brittle and they basically will disintegrate in your hands so anybody that reads this and they ever find an astral van or a GMC safari? Check the case where the blower motor goes. I'm going to try and clean it as best I can and probably wrap it in fiberglass mesh but we'll see, but the vehicle is clean and it runs great

Thanks! I appreciate it!

Now you're talking!

Nice!

Definitely going to try something.

Very cool!

Thanks bud

We'll keep pushing forward.

Thanks Mike

Previous owner actually did just that.

Absolutely huge cars! Love them!

I definitely think we’re beyond that!

@@OldeCarrGuy Shoot. I hate that for you. I'll keep watching. Good stuff!

They were common, but not this time!

Of course, after watching it I know what the problem is, but no spoilers here!

I can't wait to drive it. My first panther with air ride!

In the video I put my bare hands on the front cat after we ran it. If its cold, there's likely no flow.

Thanks John. They ALL deserve to live!

We did but unfortunately somebody didn’t hit the record button! 😂 there were a lot of different codes from misfires to catalyst efficiency and cam/crank correlation. I had a sneaking suspicion it was chain related, but figured we’d mess around first!

lol Keep watching!

Or, you put you fair in the wrong guy to fix it right the first time! There’s are tough engines, but, when you rebuild the short block, you don’t cheap out on the timing set! Be sure to catch the part 2 to this video!

Best answer I've heard yet!

Hard to turn down a free engine though!

@@OldeCarrGuy You can't. Not in your position!

Oh yeah!

that's exactly what I want to do to mine

I thought it was rare for this combo! love it

This will be my 4th panther and I can't wait to drive it!

Hey, I never claimed to be an expert! But the plan for the follow up video is to scope the cylinders to see if we have bent valves! Just putting the timing chain back on isn’t as easy as you make it out to be.

Thanks bud

It's tough letting go!

Owned two 1992s one total someone rearend me The other drove for years engine couple years ago 2017 Was planning on fixing got hurt on job people stole parts off it me living in Michigan car was in Georgia now 2005

Sounds wicked on 4 cylinders.

You wouldn't be worried about bent valves?

If I had one I could!

At this mileage and a “fresh rebuild” one should have spent the extra on timing components!

Old school!

Both are expensive!

Definitely don’t have to worry about emissions here!

The Panther cars are wonderful. I'm a 63 year old just retired fleet mechanic. I've worked on a lot of them. I drive one, and plan to drive one for the rest of my life. There are plenty of them around, and there will be enough parts available to keep them going for decades. I know everything there is to know about them, and if/when I become physically unable to work on them, any independent shop can work on them. No special dealer only tools or software required. Here in the Phoenix, AZ area they do not rust. I prefer the 2003 and up Grand Marquis. Front end is much stronger on the 2003 and up, and the Grand Marquis has a 2.73 rear axle. When combined with the 4 speed AODE transmission I can get 30 mpg on the highway at 65 mph with the cruise control on. I'm 6' 240, and they are big comfortable cars. The 2.73 rear axle will also fit on the Crown Vic P71 police car.

@@geraldscott4302 well i have owned three of them with regular wash and waxes and good matience and they rusted like crazy and I've seen countless ones in parking lots and on the road w/ wheelwell rust. They were beautiful cars in many respects but ford did an awful job with the metal up front. It is a rear sight to see an 80s up to 02 marquis without heavy rust upfront.

@@robertriley1569 "It is a rear sight to see an 80s up to 02 marquis without heavy rust upfront" There are tens of thousands of them in AZ. The one issue related to pretty much all the Panther cars, as well as many other makes and models, is severely peeling paint on cars with white paint. My '06 Grand Marquis has absolutely zero rust anywhere, but it's Performance White paint is peeling off all over. It cannot be repainted without removing ALL of the original paint, which is defective. The cost would exceed the value of the car. I couldn't believe how bad the underside of that Lincoln looked. The underside of my '06 looks brand new. Not even a speck of surface rust.

@@geraldscott4302 whats your problem, I have seen with my own eyes fender and wheelwell rust for 20+ years on these cars in multiple states. your phrasing your replys like im full of shit

@@robertriley1569 I have never seen one rusted in the Phoenix, AZ area. Everything rusts in states like Michigan and anywhere they put salt on the roads. My 16 year old Grand Marquis has absolutely NO rust. Even the places where the white paint has peeled off have no surface rust. What we do have here is UV damage, which burns off paint, rots rubber and plastic interior parts.

I bet

Just gotta find the right one!

Oh wow!

My doors are always open to visitors. Thanks for watching.

Are you nearby ,?

@@williamanthony5021 not exactly near by. I live on the Maine/New Brunswick.

@@OldeCarrGuy New Brunswick Canada ?

@@williamanthony5021 yessir!

Sure would!

Sometimes you gotta work for them! Like mine!

@@OldeCarrGuy Yes...and like the Soup Nazi from Seinfeld, we must suffer for our soup

There's 3 videos after this one with the teat down and re-assembly!. Check them out!

Hey Ian. Thanks for coming over. You'll find i do a lot of stuff different...lol I'm KZfaq certified!

Great suggestion!

NIce!

Old school eh?

Hello in the UK! You best go watch the follow up video! lol

I can’t wait to drive this gem!

Agreed

That is what it ended up being. There is a whole series of videos on this car!

Would have to find one and they’re not cheap

@@OldeCarrGuy That’s no lie.

Definitely!

There you go!

My son has a low mileage 4.6 out of an 02 he’ll give me. I just want to make sure it’ll work!

@@OldeCarrGuy the motor it’s self is the same, but the electronics, brackets, and I think the intake/throttle body and such are different. I’m not 100% sure when they switched from the two coil packs to the coil over plug set up, but I think it was with the 98 body change. Give the free motor a look, but if it’s got coil over setup it will probably be worth the extra money to save the time of switching everything over, gasket kit, and still running the risk that you have bad parts on the old engine that get swapped over.

@@johngaltline9933 As far as I can tell, it's the same. 2 coil packs, throttle body, ect. I will do some research to be 100%

@@oldecarrguy2 should be good to go then. Maybe it wasn’t until the 2003 model they switched. I’ve only had 95,03, 05,&06 models

Maybe if I had your money Kip! lol

@@OldeCarrGuy 😆🤣😂

I sure hope so!

I have a hard time believing those dates will come to reality that soon. There's way too much oil profits at stake to cut them out cold turkey.

@@OldeCarrGuy Well there is China behind this banning, they bought most politicians and own most oil companies out of Russia. Shell is owned by almost 50% by Chinese investors...

@@Schlipperschlopper China may try to ban oil to the rest of the world, but at the biggest polluter on the planet, nobody will stop them.

@@OldeCarrGuy Sadly China rules the world and they want to sell billions of E cars, lithium and copper

Definitely! Part 2 is now up!

They just get old and break bones!

I agree 100%. This lincoln makes the 5th Panther I've owned and I can honestly say, I will always one at least one!

To each his own! Thanks for watching!

Definitely

For what?

@@OldeCarrGuy The person that I purchased it from didn’t take care of it

Good to know!

Just want to help, with some additional info, a google search shows your car does have a main computer. I'm pasting the top results for you below. I have a 2004 Marquis which was misfiring, engine light would keep coming on after mechanics replaced a lot of parts that really didn't solve the problem . I got some excellent help from a Ford master technician on youtube, so will pass that on for you.....As far as scanners go, the average scanner can tell you if a particular cylinder is misfiring. They can't tell you if the problem is the plug, the coil, the connector to the plug etc. The most those scanners can do is shut off your engine light. However, if there is still a problem with a coil or a connector, the engine light will eventually come back on. If the car continues to be driven without resolving the problem, eventually the AC compressor will be shut down by the main computer. There is a more expensive scanner, called a "bidirectional scanner". This type of scanner can reprogram the main computer; however, to do so, a Ford subscription would need to be purchased for that scanner. The master tech says that subscription is about 20 dollars, (many be more now?) I do not know what the process is to reprogram, or how difficult it is. According to what I'm pasting for you, they claim that replacement computers come already programmed or reprogrammed. 1997 Lincoln Town Car 4.6L PCM - Car Computer Exchangecarcomputerexchange.com › lincoln › prod_2359 do 1997 Lincoln's have a main computer? from carcomputerexchange.com DESCRIPTION ; This is a Lincoln OEM computer for a 1997 Town Car 4.6L ·. ; LIFETIME WARRANTY w/ Core Exchange. ; Fully rebuilt, programmed, and tested for quality. $199.95 · ‎$19.95 delivery · ‎In stock Engine Computer Programmed/Updated 1997 Lincoln Town Car 4.6 ...www.ebay.com › itm If you do not have PATS, your unit will be Plug and Play. ... Engine Computer Programmed/Updated 1997 Lincoln Continental 4.6L PCM ECM ECU. $174.99. 1997 Lincoln Town Car ecm ecu computer F7VF-12A650-BEwww.ebay.com › itm do 1997 Lincoln's have a main computer? from www.ebay.com This is a good ecm or engine computer for a 1997 Lincoln Town Car. The part # is F7VF-12A650-BE. Make sure your part number matches before ordering. $40.00 · ‎Free 8-day delivery · ‎In stock

Keep watching this series!

Which 4 cylinder would you recommend?

Still dry yet!

Budget will definitely be a small one so we’ll see where we go ! Great suggestions!

@@OldeCarrGuy I get it so a Ford 300 L6 is probably on the more inexpensive side to source I would guess it would be less expensive than a boring 4.6L replacement? Used 4.8L or 5.3L LS heads are economical. I think you have a welder IIRC if so fabricating an intake shouldn't be to hard you might even be able to make an adapter to fit a 300 intake on the new head? 2 driver side LS exhaust manifolds slightly modified to work together on the same side perhaps? The hardest part of this swap would be getting the head welded together so knowing someone that can weld aluminum would be mandatory to get the head ready to bolt on. See what kind of power plants are available and maybe have a vote on which one to use? If you were closer I would donate something that you could use as long as you wanted to swap in a sbc in it, I have about 7 of those to choose from I could let go. A 5.7L/6.1L/6.4L Hemi swap would be cool if you can find a deal on one of those, even the less popular 4.7L(IIRC) MOPAR truck engine would probably be a better choice that the 4.6L.Ford. I drove my brother's full size Chrysler pickup with the 4.7L in it and that thing had some get up and go for a big full size pickup with such a small displacement engine in it. The LS headed 300 wouldn't be so budget unfriendly but would be more work BUT would make for some very good yt content. Dealers choice, I'll even watch if you just pull the engine that is in it and fix that one. You didn't even do a compression test on it, did you? Cool car.

They are great cars.

Yessir

I’m not fussy!

Go big or go home eh?

@@OldeCarrGuy yep. and then donate it to the 500k subscriber

@@SilverBullet93GT I like your optimism!

I can't help but sense sarcasm in your comment there sport.

It's a keeper.

Definitely worth it!