“I Gave ABBA 'Nul Points’ at the 1974 Eurovision” | This Morning

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3 ай бұрын

We’re celebrating all things ABBA as they mark 50 years since their 1974 Eurovision win with Waterloo this weekend. In the studio, we’ve got superfan Andrew, who’s spent £60K in 50 years on ABBA merch, and ‘super-groupie’ Jane who’s travelled the globe in support of the band. But not everyone’s a fan - we’ve also got original British Eurovision judge, Basil Herwald, who scored ABBA ‘nul points’ in 1974, and sticks by his decision!
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@stevebrown661
@stevebrown661 3 ай бұрын
I can tell you that I vividly remember watching ABBA for the first time on TV in Eurovision 1974 as a 17 year old. Agnetha and Frida definitely had an instant and profound effect on me.
@vittoriomarco1233
@vittoriomarco1233 3 ай бұрын
I believe Abba was great from the start, a unique group which still in 2024 no other group has come not even closer. Everything was near to perfect in their music. I saw they winning, and still today, I give them all the points.
@oiooi6460
@oiooi6460 3 ай бұрын
Basil explained himself articulately. And don't forget the Italian entry was famtastic too and even entered the UK top 10 despite not winning, which was unheard of in those days
@stevetimms4100
@stevetimms4100 3 ай бұрын
In 1974 3 of the ESC Top 4 Finalists made the UK Top 10. ABBA - No.1, Gigliola - No.8, and Mouth and MacNeal, (The Netherlands) - No.8. The UK Entry was a No.11 Hit. Olivia did not like it, anyhow. She prefered a Song called 'Angel Eyes'. Another ABBA 'coincidence,' as they Recorded a Song of that name in 1979.!
@cesarm.franciafernandez5935
@cesarm.franciafernandez5935 3 ай бұрын
On a Saturday like today, but 50 years ago, an event happened that changed the history of music forever.
@CatsandJP
@CatsandJP 3 ай бұрын
And now Bjorn Ulvaeus’s (of ABBA) who co founded the company Pophouse Entertainment have just bought the entire back catalogue of KISS music including their make up rights for $300+million……which means they will be immortal avatars and their music will live forever into the future.
@sibionic
@sibionic 3 ай бұрын
But Kiss' music is utterly worthless.
@CatsandJP
@CatsandJP 3 ай бұрын
⁠Shock rock has made Simons $400 million and Stanley has made $200 million…PLUS selling their back catalogue to Pophouse……so they haven’t done to bad …at least they are millionaires….. considering YOU think their music is worthless.
@sibionic
@sibionic 3 ай бұрын
@@CatsandJP I meant artistically.
@dimirockeropoulos6104
@dimirockeropoulos6104 3 ай бұрын
​@@sibionic it was never about the music with Kiss...it was a spectacle that made a lot of money.
@sibionic
@sibionic 3 ай бұрын
@@dimirockeropoulos6104 exactly, which Is why I'm surprised Bjorn would buy their archive.
@lucindasweden5778
@lucindasweden5778 3 ай бұрын
Typicall typicall ,UK got chocked by seeing hearing something new and old fresch, well done Abba,
@briancumpsty4205
@briancumpsty4205 3 ай бұрын
Wrong they only received 24 votes out of a possible 160 , so basically on average only 1.5 people out of the 10 from each country voted for them
@RalphWigg1
@RalphWigg1 3 ай бұрын
I was at Brighton in the front row!
@gothiclight8048
@gothiclight8048 3 ай бұрын
Wow! That must have been amazing
@RalphWigg1
@RalphWigg1 3 ай бұрын
@@gothiclight8048 It was! 'Waterloo' was different to anything we'd heard before on the history of the show - Ani-Frid & Agnetha weren't bad either!!.
@gothiclight8048
@gothiclight8048 3 ай бұрын
@@RalphWigg1 You get the impression they were trailblazers in terms of the contest. I don’t think The Wombles would ever be an interval act now though!
@RalphWigg1
@RalphWigg1 3 ай бұрын
@@gothiclight8048 What have the Wombles got to do with it?
@gothiclight8048
@gothiclight8048 3 ай бұрын
@@RalphWigg1 They were the interval act!
@sie4431
@sie4431 3 ай бұрын
In hindsight it looks like a massive oversight but that's the danger of judging the past. As Basil says the song, for whatever reason, didn't stand out as much as the ones that did get points. Tastes were different in the past and something that's loved in one era is hated in another, plenty of older music fans would have hated The Beatles because that's not the sort of thing they had been accustomed too.
@bachatamusica
@bachatamusica 3 ай бұрын
Even though they won in 1974.......I only found out about ABBA, in 1976......when I first saw their vinyl LP "Greatest Hits", which included "Fernando", which was "Song Of The Year 1976" in Portugal......an award distinction which was never given to "foreign" artists......but a certain exception was given in this case, due to the name, "Fernando" having strong resonance with the peoples of the Iberian Peninsula.
@lucindasweden5778
@lucindasweden5778 3 ай бұрын
At that point in history I am pleased to see Uk still had the romantic beutiful hopes for us, as they gave 5 points to Italy
@martinkasper197
@martinkasper197 3 ай бұрын
Boo at Basil...🤣🤣🤣
@stevenpalmer442
@stevenpalmer442 2 ай бұрын
I remember watching it as a 13yr old lad.Yes the song was good as well 😂
@Pure_B
@Pure_B 3 ай бұрын
Dermot not the sharpest tool in the box. 😏
@kimbozw1808
@kimbozw1808 3 ай бұрын
what is it they say about a fool being considered wise when he keeps silent?
@kimbozw1808
@kimbozw1808 3 ай бұрын
nice to put a face to the name Andrew. Top rate bloke.
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 3 ай бұрын
If abba cant be their their Abbatars can.
@user-rk6wx2gm8b
@user-rk6wx2gm8b 3 ай бұрын
The best Eurovision song contest ever. ABBA deserved to win and won , because , Agnetha and Frida are the best women singers, benny and bjorn are the great musicians. ABBA released a new Album in 2021 called "Voyage" .
@kimbozw1808
@kimbozw1808 3 ай бұрын
singing in swedish must have been at the swedish eurovision finals?
@AlfCalson
@AlfCalson 3 ай бұрын
🇸🇪 ᗅᗺᗷᗅ 🇸🇪
@k_DAN
@k_DAN 3 ай бұрын
Why does he say it was in London ? It was in Brighton.
@adlad75
@adlad75 2 ай бұрын
Listen again, starting at 0:54 , he explains that he was one of ten jurors based in London, not Brighton. 🤓👍
@stephenhowell5611
@stephenhowell5611 3 ай бұрын
I promptly forgot about ABBA after the 74 ESC win, I didn't think it was that great, but a long time after I heard SOS and I thought that was a great song.
@1964paulsmith
@1964paulsmith 3 ай бұрын
Basil is obviously tone deaf.
@briancumpsty4205
@briancumpsty4205 3 ай бұрын
Only 24 of the 160 people who voted voted for abba ,so obviously the votes where well spread out between the 17 country's
@clay9185
@clay9185 3 ай бұрын
Particularly in the eastern block countries it’s all about giving your points to neighbouring countries.. places like the U.K don’t stand much chance.. it’s all politics unfortunately. Love Australia to win once tho I think that would never happen & I believe they are about to finish competing in 2024 unless it’s extended..
@starvictory7079
@starvictory7079 3 ай бұрын
The UK used to give the top points to Ireland.
@mr.y.mysterious.video1
@mr.y.mysterious.video1 3 ай бұрын
Scoring was different then, each juror chose their favouirte and gave it one point. Couldnt get more than 7 from a country and if you did no other country would get any points.
@1964paulsmith
@1964paulsmith 3 ай бұрын
There were ten jurors, not seven.
@briancumpsty4205
@briancumpsty4205 3 ай бұрын
10 per country not 7 so they got 24 points out of a possible maximum of 160.
@Denis-89
@Denis-89 3 ай бұрын
you could actually get 9 points
@briancumpsty4205
@briancumpsty4205 3 ай бұрын
Nope 10 points per country, not 9
@dreasbn
@dreasbn 3 ай бұрын
The Italian was the most beautiful ballad and would have won any other year.. but… I never read anywhere that the rehearsal performances were sung in Swedish. I’m honestly baffled.. but like he said no nil points and as every jury just gave 10 points the low margin is not comparable cause it would actually mean 24 times 12 points and nobody knows how many 10 or 8 they might have received with a different system..
@dreasbn
@dreasbn 3 ай бұрын
@@alexioverdo5225 really I love onj too but this song was perfect for GC her warm velvet texture voice gives me shivers all over. I could see Lara Fabian doing a cover but could not have seen Celine doing one for the same reason.
@alexioverdo5225
@alexioverdo5225 3 ай бұрын
@@dreasbn A ha.Well we can all have our various preferencies i guess.It's inevitably subjective imo but still It's understandable and rightful.
@alexioverdo5225
@alexioverdo5225 3 ай бұрын
Btw in your opinion who would you see being a winner back then if people also had a chance to vote in the finals too, same way happenes today?
@dreasbn
@dreasbn 3 ай бұрын
@@alexioverdo5225 oh good question. Still Italy or Sweden but as Televoting would attract younger to vote I guess Abba was the fresh everybody was waiting for. So they would win a televoting big time. Jury could be a tie but overall I think Abba would have won. Maybe the Dutch song would closer to the first two which was a very catchy song as well.
@alexioverdo5225
@alexioverdo5225 3 ай бұрын
@@dreasbnMy predictions.Sweden a winner by far... but runners up still Italy and Holland 3rd.I also liked these 3some too btw.
@PC-vg8vn
@PC-vg8vn 3 ай бұрын
As an |Abba fan I think Waterloo is one of their weakest songs. Thankfully they got so much better in the proceeding years.
@janlundberg6439
@janlundberg6439 3 ай бұрын
so wrong he made and totaly masspotasos
@robwhite461
@robwhite461 3 ай бұрын
The success of most bands relies on back room deals and those who control the business. It’s never been about talent.
@ivanbee
@ivanbee 3 ай бұрын
He spilled, Gigliola Cinquetti should have won and would have been first person to win Eurovision twice. Italy 1975. I was -25 years, still not over it.
@steinarmogen3166
@steinarmogen3166 3 ай бұрын
Abba had the most modern and refreshing original quality song by far. Along with Yugoslavia and maybe Israel. So the contest definately didn’t need the fourth female big ballad winning in a row! 😃 Abba stood for progression. Italy - Even If I agree it was Nice enough - certainly did not
@larsstenmark583
@larsstenmark583 11 сағат бұрын
@@steinarmogen3166 Basta! Well said, thank you very much - us neighbors in between...😉😃.
@DS-pz5fj
@DS-pz5fj 3 ай бұрын
Basil is a LEGEND!
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