I gave Slime Cat a True Form | Battle Cats Game Balance

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Hydromint

Hydromint

Күн бұрын

I made Slime Cat a fan made custom true form cause Ponos was too lazy to do it
One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that because the Strengthen activate is 99% HP, if you let him get hit by a weak peon or Henry or something, it’ll still activate his strengthen
This is a game concept video
I don't know how to animate lol
Hope you enjoyed!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:13 - New Playstyle
2:30 - Speed, Range, and Cost Balance
3:42 - MONTAGE
Music:
Peritune - Rapid5
Contact me: hydromintajym@gmail.com
#battlecats #battlecats #gaming

Пікірлер: 78
@XReill
@XReill 5 ай бұрын
I actually never see higher forms gaining more in cost very often It's definitely one way to improve a unit while keeping it more balanced I will say this is probably the most unique true form I've seen ever, it doesn't look like something you would have to bring into the stage because it's so strong to the point it makes a stage actually playable but rather a nice strategic addition to already a strategic unit I wish PONOS was trying to go with this sort of mindset because newer cats seem to be less of mind scratcher but just a straight up winning answer
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 5 ай бұрын
Perfect summary of what I was trying to go for :D One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that because the Strengthen activate is 99% HP, if you let him get hit by a weak peon or Henry or something, it’ll still activate his strengthen
@Enter_a_name69
@Enter_a_name69 5 ай бұрын
Literally every ultra souls uber
@Geology051
@Geology051 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. This is a very interesting take on a slime true form. Overall seems balanced and something that could actually be in the game
@lilharm
@lilharm 5 ай бұрын
I think Catburger is an infamous example of one
@_incident07_
@_incident07_ 5 ай бұрын
I can see ponor doing something like this, the only thing is they would not know how to actually balance slime and just give it a survive, but make it 100% and give slime rebound, basically giving him 2 deadly attacks.
@alexandremontesinos7876
@alexandremontesinos7876 5 ай бұрын
why do people call them ponor? is it because if we switch the letters we get............
@-aaa-22
@-aaa-22 5 ай бұрын
@@alexandremontesinos7876porno
@fredericodesousaferreira5020
@fredericodesousaferreira5020 5 ай бұрын
​@@alexandremontesinos7876ong💀
@matthewbrennanvlogs1139
@matthewbrennanvlogs1139 5 ай бұрын
@@alexandremontesinos7876auto correct
@NagoBust
@NagoBust 4 ай бұрын
​@@alexandremontesinos7876ongyat rizzler skibidi yhun buck 💀
@hue_lord_4208
@hue_lord_4208 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if the true form was just a visual change, like it's evolved form. I think that would be funny, lol.
@CinnaIsDum
@CinnaIsDum 5 ай бұрын
Most based suggestion i have seen yet
@Potato-so6zr
@Potato-so6zr 5 ай бұрын
Very nice concept! Two years ago I drew a concept for Slime Cats True Form. It would have increased HP and more range. I don’t know if that’s good or not, but the true form would turn Slime Cat into Dough Cat where slime would now be a a dough being spun around by a newbie chef.
@UltimateLeaderYT
@UltimateLeaderYT 5 ай бұрын
I was honestly thinking of a Critical Wave or A Savage blow wave, but you took this too another level. Great video, you earned a sub ;)
@VenusTroll-yg6iq
@VenusTroll-yg6iq 3 ай бұрын
"True form slime cat!" "Oh great its gonna be super powerful and a one shot to any sta-" "WITHOUT BREAKING THE GAME" All jokes aside this is the best fanmade true form ive seen
@Mr_Nightmare419
@Mr_Nightmare419 5 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool slime tf but for me i hope it was 100% chances to survive and more hp increases or more kb count
@user-ku4lz2pt4k
@user-ku4lz2pt4k 5 ай бұрын
You earned a sub man, great concept
@kaulianpower
@kaulianpower 5 ай бұрын
This looks super fun to use.
@darkstrideisi3346
@darkstrideisi3346 5 ай бұрын
It would be funny if it were flan, as if the next step in evolution is flan
@Darkatanyan
@Darkatanyan 4 ай бұрын
This is too op :0
@i_like_apples_
@i_like_apples_ 5 ай бұрын
my slime cat idea is to make him entirely different, from a kamikaze nuker to a back-liner glass cannon, also gaining a lv1 surge attack
@dragofruit2045
@dragofruit2045 5 ай бұрын
Looks fun actually!
@Jivom16
@Jivom16 5 ай бұрын
THIS TRUE FORM IS SO GOOD! I WISH THIS WAS IN THE GAME. personally, I wish there was a way for slime cat to have more of a rusher stat (like increased backswing and almost no foreswing). That way, if it did survive, then it would have more of a chance to use its strengthened stats effectively. The problem is that if slime gets to attack the enemy with its normal strength, there is ALMOST NO WAY for it to use its strengthened attack. I hope I explained it well enough.
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 5 ай бұрын
I actually tried to remove the TBA to make it a backswing unit but I would’ve had to change the whole animation so I scrapped that idea lol Yeah if slime attacks normally, the point of it is that it wouldn’t get to use its strengthen. Otherwise it would be broken if it had full backswing You just send slime to its death and it may get a strengthen hit off
@Jivom16
@Jivom16 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the concept. I hope you do some concepts for other advent units as well. @@Hydromint
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 5 ай бұрын
@@Jivom16 Definitely! I plan on doing a whole series on it :D
@jojo._.586
@jojo._.586 5 ай бұрын
I feel like real Slime TF will just have 1s shorter ATK cycle
@theodorech20
@theodorech20 5 ай бұрын
The only change i want is reduce the cost to 675, otherwise this is a creative take of a true form. Good work
@denimator05
@denimator05 4 ай бұрын
This is interesting, but I think survive and strengthen go against the design philosophy of slime cat, since it's supposed to just get off one big wave and then die, requiring tight timing. But, I think move speed and range to make that timing more consistent would be a very good buff
@user-in9hk9uh3o
@user-in9hk9uh3o 4 ай бұрын
Here’s my true form idea for Slime Cat: True Form: Slime Cat -> Dough Cat Increases HP and range. I’m not sure if it’s good true form.
@warioman9116
@warioman9116 5 ай бұрын
I like this very much. It's like a pseudo lasvoss if you want the best results, time it properly to activate strengthen. Honestly, if ponos implemented this as a true form it would be very satisfying. But to be honest they're probably going to give him something stupid like behemoth slayer lmao.
@icespeed3742
@icespeed3742 5 ай бұрын
I mean Behemoth slayer would still be better than what Aphrodite got Just imagine true form just increasing slime cat's HP by like 10 and that's it
@ZaChemas
@ZaChemas 5 ай бұрын
we don't talk about aphrodite@@icespeed3742
@Obamoai21
@Obamoai21 5 ай бұрын
@@icespeed3742cat god moment
@icespeed3742
@icespeed3742 5 ай бұрын
@@Obamoai21 at least he gets double bounty I guess? Still disappointing but it's supposed to be a memey true form Aphrodite on the other hand isn't supposed to be a memey true form, which makes her more disappointing imo
@maamaacats4653
@maamaacats4653 4 ай бұрын
Please do more videos like this giving concept true/ultra form to units
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 4 ай бұрын
Definitely! This is the start of an entire series I'm going to do
@AnhNguyen-gt5mq
@AnhNguyen-gt5mq 5 ай бұрын
what is the most balanced true form for slime you ask? ponos is going to give slime bunch of immunities for no reason
@dinoaurus1
@dinoaurus1 4 ай бұрын
This would be a strong true form, but for the wrong reasons. On average, if every slime cat that procced survive got a hit (without getting one before) you would have the same damage output against the enemy being hit as just normal slime spam with every slime hitting. But your damage from slime to the whole field would actually be less. This means that actively going for the survive hit is not really worth it, especially considering that slime has to stay on the field for longer, leading to more vulnerability against waves and surges and attacks in general. This would be a strong true form, but not because the alternate playstyle youre trying to promote is good (which btw is a very fun idea, though probably hard to execute succesfully). Itd be strong because slime is already strong, and giving 5 speed and 40 range with a complimentary survive + strengthen is just absurd in its own right. A 300 price increase doesnt really justify it to me either
@banancat4986
@banancat4986 5 ай бұрын
i feel like slimecat's true form design is gonna be a pudding, good true form concept, but it's too op for the most part
@elliottsintas30
@elliottsintas30 5 ай бұрын
Ponos would probably add speed and surge if i had to guess (obviously not thinking about balance)
@byeguyssry
@byeguyssry 3 ай бұрын
I think 50% Survive is not a good idea. It doesnt open up a new playstyle as you can't depend on it. If you purposely get Slime hit, half the time you get no damage, half the time you get double the damage, so it averages out, but for double the cowt of pre-TF. What this does is that it rewards playing badly. I'm not a fan of the concept. I'd suggest making it a 100% Survive and lowering the strengthen, or increasing the recharge time slightly to increase the risk of carelessly using Slime
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 3 ай бұрын
50% survive is simply a failsafe that you can activate purposely if you wish to if you play with it and test it you’ll see how busted it is ;)
@byeguyssry
@byeguyssry 3 ай бұрын
@Hydromint apologies if I did not make myself succinct enough, but I believe that: You should not be rewarded with a Strengthen boost if Survive is meant to be a failsafe, as that means you're rewarded for playing badly It is a bad idea to try and activate it purposely as you get less damage on average (199% damage half the time, 0 damage half the time)
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 3 ай бұрын
Ah, I see what you mean, you are right in many ways You would be right if everyone was able to play perfectly(btw the strengthen is only 150%, if you didn't watch the video lol) But the reality of the situation is, even if it looks like you time slime perfectly, there are so many factors to account for (especially now with wild doge survive and surge rng) that it simply isn't feasible to time slime correctly every time The survive is a bonus, a failsafe, an "omg slime clutched my run!" thing that simply makes the battle more fun The strengthen at 99% is for you to get a weak peon to damage but not kill slime to activate the strengthen. Survive is there to back you up if it fails Units are not meant to be perfect tools, they are just there to enhance gameplay in a unique way. Thanks for commenting and sharing your opinion!
@byeguyssry
@byeguyssry 3 ай бұрын
@Hydromint Oh I mixed up the Strengthen Health threshold and the damage increase lol. I see what you mean now. I still don't think it's a great idea, but it's not a bad idea I guess
@SageSylvie
@SageSylvie 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I just wish they gave slime more range and that's it. MASSIVE QoL improvements
@victini7777
@victini7777 5 ай бұрын
ngl if slime had a true form all it needs is survive, there's no way to be more perfect. The reward should be worth it from such an awful stage like I'll be bug
@alexanderthegreatii1341
@alexanderthegreatii1341 5 ай бұрын
Or more range. Just in case
@willisbetter131
@willisbetter131 5 ай бұрын
i made a post abt what should slimes cat tf be. this is cool
@ramaicatseye
@ramaicatseye 5 ай бұрын
Me who clicked JUST for the custom model.
@Slimedragon785V
@Slimedragon785V 5 ай бұрын
Imagine that with faster attack cooldown💀💀🤔🤔🤔
@axcelleria
@axcelleria 5 ай бұрын
+10 speed & bounty hunter
@Cloud30_4O
@Cloud30_4O 2 күн бұрын
It's a cute slime though But it's so hard to get and my worst part it's The boss it's my freaking nightmare⊙_⊙⊙_⊙⊙_⊙
@Obamoai21
@Obamoai21 5 ай бұрын
No perfect trade with Aku doge? Sad
@MeowPau
@MeowPau 5 ай бұрын
id say just up the wave lvl
@Angel-cp7xb
@Angel-cp7xb 5 ай бұрын
Sime cat op
@JustNick279
@JustNick279 5 ай бұрын
while i do like the idea of greatly changing slime cat's playstile i highly doubt this tf would be used nearly as much as og slime cat, it's supposed to be a high risk high reward situation but it seems too situational (?), like, slime is really versatile and usable in nearly all stages since it's a quick, cheap and effective nuker who is guaranteed to pay off as long as you're paying attention, but adding a whopping 300 more cost (nearly doubling it's current cost) just to make it *very occasionally* land another, stronger hit? not saying the tf or concept is bad, just saying that it'd be really hard for this form to outshine og slime outside of really skilled players in some stages. (i guess letting it get hit by a peon before attacking would make it far more useful but it's not really that frequent outside of the beginning of a stage or low unit stages)
@CursedRelic
@CursedRelic 5 ай бұрын
I'll name it before anyone else does lol
@CursedRelic
@CursedRelic 5 ай бұрын
Gelatin Cat
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 5 ай бұрын
that’s a good name
@aweebtaku429
@aweebtaku429 5 ай бұрын
Slime cats 3rd form would be jello cat
@LivingDoorknob
@LivingDoorknob 5 ай бұрын
just turn it into rimuru and we have a deal
@user-st1qe5mp2f
@user-st1qe5mp2f 5 ай бұрын
I mean you could just give him a million health
@redactalternative5833
@redactalternative5833 5 ай бұрын
actually balanced tf???
@andreusortega1813
@andreusortega1813 5 ай бұрын
💀 same 2nd form
@lilharm
@lilharm 5 ай бұрын
Rimuru Cat
@midtisel4222
@midtisel4222 5 ай бұрын
I dont really like this TF that much, the concept is absolutely brilliant but the way its implemented is absolutely terrible, the fact that its 50% survive + even if it does survive, it will basically never get another hit off WITHOUT extremely good timing skills makes its a really RNG that could make slime cat a hated unit. The range increase is nice but 750 cost makes it detrimental compared to first/second form on cash tight stages. It needs to be executed better. My tip is to make it a rebound unit like fishman, but then its better to remove the strenghten as to not make it too op and make the survive 100% so its not RNG. TLDR: very good concept, executed very poorly.
@VeryEpicGamer123
@VeryEpicGamer123 5 ай бұрын
Just give it more hp
@Hydromint
@Hydromint 5 ай бұрын
What do you think, is he balanced?
@Oscar-mj8fq
@Oscar-mj8fq 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@boi6471
@boi6471 5 ай бұрын
No
@Pufferfish_Pond
@Pufferfish_Pond 5 ай бұрын
Yes but I don't like the cost increase since part of the appeal of slime is his low cost ): I know it's to balance it but the whole point of true forms are to make something stronger which the cost increase basically nullifies, especially since the price almost doubles in exchange for not even guaranteed to survive, a bit more speed and a bit more range which doesn't outrange that many enemies anyways (also he would outrange aku doge which is quite useful for stalling for money before hitting the base). Still a great concept though :D
@Blockinator-fz5lh
@Blockinator-fz5lh 5 ай бұрын
If he had a true form it would be jello cat anyone agree with me?
@midtisel4222
@midtisel4222 5 ай бұрын
Too similar to jelly cat
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