I Got Kicked Out Of College

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In this video, I talk about my dismissal from the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign resulting from a charge of COVID-19 Testing Noncompliance.
ALL DOCUMENTS, EVIDENCE, AND LETTERS:
docs.google.com/document/d/1a...
EXTRA SEGMENT - Did UIUC communicate the consequences of noncompliance?
• EXTRA SEGMENT - UIUC C...
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Introduction
2:00 - Part 1: Timeline of Events
24:50 - Part 2: My Thoughts
52:43 - Part 3: What Now?
SUMMARY:
During the Fall 2020 semester, all students residing on the UIUC (University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign) campus were required to complete COVID-19 saliva testing twice a week. At the start of the semester, I was unable to receive saliva testing because of a dry mouth condition. During this time, I took on my own transmission-preventing measures, including: taking all my courses and extracurricular activities entirely online, significantly limiting my in-person interactions, and following all COVID safety protocols (masking and socially distancing). I have substantive evidence that I never caught nor spread COVID-19.
One month into the semester, I was sent one warning and then was shortly charged with COVID-19 Testing Noncompliance. This prompted me to quickly learn how to extract saliva despite my dry mouth condition, and I also reached out to the University's health center for further guidance. Starting October 4th, I was able to develop and maintain a biweekly testing schedule until the day I left campus in late November. I explained my situation in full to my University case coordinator.
On October 16th, the Subcommittee on Student Conduct found me guilty of COVID-19 Testing Noncompliance, and applied the following sanctions: dismissal from the University for one year, trespass notice physically banning me from University property, and a petition letter for readmission and petition requirements including academic or work experience, 70 hours of mandated service, and a 1500-word research paper on the topic of COVID-19 transmission, spread, and mitigating risk. I submitted an appeal on the ground that the dismissal sanction was not appropriate for my violation. This appeal was denied.
In this video, I discuss the timeline of events (Part 1), my retrospective thoughts about this matter (Part 2), and everything that has happened afterward as well as my plans for the future (Part 3).
My email: ish13c@gmail.com
My Twitter: / ish13c
My Instagram: / ish13c

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@wolterbalthazar5739 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, UIUC Student here. The university's response to covid and covid testing has been abysmal, and to top it off they can't seem to figure out if they want in person or online classes yet. This case in particular showcases everything wrong with the management. It is beyond infuriating to hear this story, but sadly consistent with UIUC's response to covid overall. Often within a few weeks they would pass stringent testing requirements only to repeal them a few weeks later, and to top it off, still have the gall to charge full price for this pseudo-college experience. I am honestly throughly disappointed with University Management, but what can I do? I believe many students just put their head down and go along with whatever new protocol that Chancellor Jones decides to release today.

@JA-2 2 жыл бұрын

I go to UIC. Really annoyed by the universities failure to provide a hybrid experience. We’re adults allow us to choose how we want to receive our education.

@jackiej6233 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, there's such a 'you're with us or against us' mentality that to have complaints or concerns with anything related to the COVID handling process will often get you an entirely different tone from people. That tone ranges from a dismissive "oh, it'll be over soon this is just how things are", to an aggressive or accusatory "why are you questioning what's supposed to help keep us safe?" mentality. Like many of us aren't paying out of pocket to be here...

@HotDavid 2 жыл бұрын

This is absurd. I'm glad you are continuing to find success even after having this on your record. You know your achievements and hard work mean something when other schools are willing to look past a dismissal.

@HotDavid Жыл бұрын

@Thawne ...what is the point of this reply? Lmao

@HotDavid Жыл бұрын

@Thawne Sure. I just don't know what you're referring to, because I didn't mention relying on the education system at all

@wackyrock2786 2 жыл бұрын

Damn I didn't know you were one of the people on reddit last year when I read all about this in a post. My friends and I at UIUC were wondering who that was and assumed that they just didn't care about covid. Really sorry to hear about how all of this went down.

@bg-sj9tx Жыл бұрын

@Thawne shut up bot

@jackiej6233 2 жыл бұрын

As someone going through my own struggles with that exact school, I can imagine your frustration. Never did understand why we couldn't just do swab tests.

@jackiej6233 Жыл бұрын

@Thawne I'm curious. What exactly am I to blame for? And at fault for relying on the education system for what, specifically?

@jackiej6233 Жыл бұрын

@Thawne Congrats on your own life, but that vague and condescending statement means nothing when you don't even know what I'm going to school for nor my financial stability. I certainly didn't allude to either.

@gogreen1675 Жыл бұрын

@@jackiej6233 do you live in us? school in us is told to be needed for success, so universities take advantage of capitalism and unfairly take their money while providing less and less change by the year :/

@builderbrothersproductions9340 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think that is so messed up. Your school can’t make you give them your saliva nor should they have kicked you out because you couldn’t produce it

@brockgervan5447 2 жыл бұрын

first part wrong second part true

@Hausbrauen 2 жыл бұрын

@@brockgervan5447 I think they meant "they can't make you" from a moral perspective, despite the frustrating fact they technically can force it. Regardless, they're both opinions I 100% agree with. *This made me sick.*

@Spyke7566 11 ай бұрын

@@brockgervan5447 yeah sorry bud you can’t Deny both -_- 100% both things are true

@kylemorrison6162 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly this just sounds like UIUC is a massive government backed advance fee scheme. Have you talked to anyone about any possible legal action? I have no idea what laws, if any, surround the process of dismissals from universities, but it couldn't hurt to explore your options.

@lifeofdionne 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not my sister go there

@-Patali- 2 жыл бұрын

@@lifeofdionne what do you mean "its not". Like, it's not a scam? Sorry bud, your sister got scammed too

@ihcend 11 ай бұрын

@@-Patali- lmao uiuc is one of the best schools in the country.

@kev_jr 2 жыл бұрын

Very respectful, mature, and detailed response. Continue to use this story to your advantage, since you can't change the outcome of these insane events. Best of luck to you, we all know you're going places 🙌

@shrirammahabal8900 2 жыл бұрын

It is a very well presented case on your behalf, very proud of you. I wish you the very best for your future.

@vengezize2708 2 жыл бұрын

I see a pattern with many of these cases. Although the universities are intending to prioritize safety over anything else, they unintentionally start to stray away from the health and safety of the people and more on the ‘wrongdoings’ or rules that were technically broken. In your case, you proved the fact that you did not spread the virus, which is the main goal, right? Health and safety. That could be the end because you ultimately did your duty to keep everyone safe despite you not being able to report your saliva test promptly. But, alas, it wasn’t the end. But hey, as some believe and many have heard, “everything happens for a reason.” I wish the best for you, your family, and your future. Good luck out there.

@thomas.thomas 2 жыл бұрын

it is just like the no tolerance towardsviolence policy some schools have, a good idea, but if one fight back against a bully he get's expelled and the bully get's nothing

@kspoo10_ Жыл бұрын

@Thawne Why have you made this reply to so many comments??

@kspoo10_ Жыл бұрын

@Thawne Oh, okay :) I'm just worried that someone might report you for spam, since I've seen stuff like that happen before when someone uses the same comment in multiple places (even when its use is completely legitimate in every instance).

@Okami_HD Жыл бұрын

@Thawne, I don’t think victim blaming is the route you want to take here. If someone is raised in a society which teaches them that to succeed they need to go to college, is it any surprise that they feel like they have to attend. I understand that the US has a huge problem with its education system, but replaying to victims of the cycle with copy and pasta comments isn’t gonna convince them of anything. Instead try empathising with their situation and talk about how the colleges are the ones screwing them over rather than saying it’s all their fault for doing what they were taught to do.

@kicz 2 жыл бұрын

watched you since the mineplex days. crazy that this ended up happening to you, i have also gone through my college disciplinary action system and it was a disorganized pain. i feel as if you should take legal action with this situation. i wish you the best of luck with whatever decision you make moving forward with education or work.

@Koshalamya 2 жыл бұрын

From listening to this video it would seem that the UIUC needs to revamp it's policies regarding Covid-19 testing (especially with regards to methods of testing). It almost sounds like they do this so as to remove people they consider not worth the time to help. It's digusting! You should have been given help regarding this situation!

@makayla946 2 жыл бұрын

It's awful that the university is able to make an arbitrary decision about that which caused you and others so many problems and long term effects. It just doesn't seem fair.

@bornariazi9663 11 ай бұрын

Higher Education professional here, sorry this happened to you. Keep up the great work on YT!

@bikerider1007 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone watching this video, please watch till the end. Very well explains both sides of the argument. Very non biased video!

@LegendJuice 2 жыл бұрын

Hey ish, I just saw this video after seeing the new social experiment videos, which by the way are amazing! I too have gotten in trouble this year for noncompliance with COVID-19 testing in a similar fashion from university. It is completely ridiculous and I want u to know that my hopes and prayers are with u. Someone else is in your shoes. I hope you are doing well now and u deserve all the best. Hope to see you make more amazing videos! ❤️❤️🙏

@rafus431 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you all the best, your channel is great!

@TC6_Original 2 жыл бұрын

I think you should take legal actions towards the university, they should be way nicer to students like you and not throw you out because of some not cool COVID-19 Test that you couldn't do because of reasonable argument that you said. That is just not cool to see, I hope you find a new university or school that will treat you better. Good luck.

@FireSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын

If I'm being honest, the punishment is absolutely ridiculous. I am a History minor, and I understand that justice systems are supposed to look at if you did the charges or not, but that is still a monumental overreaction to the charges. If I could give any advice, I do not believe that university is worth attending if you ever try to go back or if they try to get you to come back. If you truly like the college and want to attend it again, go right ahead, but this event should reveal the true nature of this college. I hope you can get past this and are able to succeed and do what you love. Good luck with the road ahead, and we will stand behind whatever path you go down.

@pleasedonotatme 2 жыл бұрын

You really think violating the bi-weekly testing policy 16 times for a month straight was not an overreaction, despite the amount of times he was warned and where he literally stated he was wrong? He was just negligent and refuses to admit that what he already recognizes was the wrong course of action is what caused his punishment.

@Colink02 2 жыл бұрын

I think while you did fail to compile, They failed to not only notify of such issue even if it was simply a "technical error" (they should be watching to make sure its working correct not hoping its working correctly especially if its such an urgent email like that) and they also failed to state alternatives for the testing. I don't see how the student that is the one that gets kicked out when its if anything really the schools failures to communicate and verify their own systems are working correctly. And then on top of that the ones that collect are also the ones that decide whether or not to remove that student and essentially save money for themselves (maybe that's just be though). While yes you didn't test for a few weeks, you eventually did and you even verified you didn't have it previously, I feel they didn't even think for a second about letting you off with a warning I feel they just wanted a reason to throw you out. I'll make sure I avoid that school once I get out of community college if I need another school. Even something as simple as like a "hey, what's up you haven't tested this week" or something should of been asked by someone from staff.

@KyleLi 2 жыл бұрын

Wow glad I didn't end up going to UIUC when I was making my decision years ago. Graduated mid-pandemic and at my existing university had a few scares with missing some testing in my final semester but I can't imagine just being told "Hey, you're out" for some miscommunication.

@xoratork6909 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I agree that it is 100% appropriate for a school to require testing as often as they see necessary to protect their students and faculty, but they cannot disregard health conditions. There certainly should have been alternatives to the saliva test that they offered. Certainly this has to be against the Americans with Disabilities Act, right?

@ministerbismarck 2 жыл бұрын

They had other types of tests but never communicated it

@Jibblets Жыл бұрын

Take legal action against that university right now!

@DarkSwordsman 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't have time to watch the video, but wow. It never ceases to amaze how awful universities can be because of people that simply do not care. Educators are supposed to teach and accommodate so people can grow up to be the best version of themselves they can be, but basically every university experience I have had was awful, less the few people that were actually normal human beings and had sympathy.

@Brosowski 2 жыл бұрын

This is BS. Man that college sucks and you should do something about it. You did more that I would have done and most other would have done in your situation. Hope this isn't a big problem for your future goals

@FireyCam 2 жыл бұрын

I guess its time to file a lawsuit.

@spectroxis6418 Жыл бұрын

Hey there, Pitt student here, we had a very brutal system here as well. All student who were not vaccinated by the week before finals could not take their finals and could not register for classes the next semester until getting vaccinated or a very strict waiver which forced you to get tested once a week every Monday. Sorry what happened to you, that sucks.

@NightKoneko 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Just wow.

@riviakstockman 2 жыл бұрын

The absolute state of our education system. It's run by bureaucrats and they disappear anybody who doesn't toe the party line.

@RJMcBug 2 жыл бұрын

With how strict they are acting on COVID guidelines, why wouldn't they have promoted or encouraged nasal swab tests. It seems to be more reliable and more readily available back then and now. Seems harsh for something that is unclear and hard to judge.

@Dragoon561801 2 жыл бұрын

After watching this video in full I have a million thoughts, but unlike you neither the patience nor skill to put them all into the writing of a single comment. Thus I'm going to keep this as a few bullet points: - Based on your telling and the provided evidence, your case is definitely valid. I'm not a lawyer but maybe there is potential for a class action lawsuit? Either way the effort to which you go to stay unbiased in all of this is admirable. - I'm happy that you did manage to turn away from that event to go forward with a new path keep your optimism. - You're a star, and you'll make a badass lawyer/politician some day.

@lntcore630 2 жыл бұрын

You should get your doctor to attest that you have difficulties producing saliva. It's more credible than the text message screenshots.

@JavierSalcedoC 9 ай бұрын

How's the legal case going on?

@cameronsmith3047 2 жыл бұрын

You know it would still have been bullshit, but at least understandable bullshit for them to have punished you while you were still violating the policy strict punishment to ensure everyone else follows it. for them to take this action after you fixed the issue would be like a cop arresting you 3 weeks after you fixed your broken headlight

@marshallhunter4193 8 ай бұрын

As everyone now knows, the covid-19 pandemic was handled extremely poorly. the testing and vaccination was also done poorly, and due to fear mongering and outright disinformation, the situation resulted in ridiculous punishments for behavior that failed to constitute even a misdemeanor. As such these individuals who in my own opinion were not, well meaning or even good people was mean spirited and punitive to the extreme. These people deserve to be held accountable and should receive the exact same treatment they accorded others in an accumulative manner. This might sound harsh but individuals in a position of power should be expected to meet the highest standard of behavior in the execution of their duties, and not encouraged to act capriciously. I believe this may be summed up in the phrase. "Let the punishment fit the crime"

@oshiriz6486 2 жыл бұрын

Man kicked out of College and decide to be legend

@ministerbismarck 2 жыл бұрын

That was very unfair

@tw5986 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I completely forgot about you ish, used to watch you long ago. This sucks, and that college sucks. Do something about this. But I’m also glad you are doing well after this

@alexmoreno7636 2 жыл бұрын

This college doesn’t suck! The fact they dismissed him over such a petty violation does suck! But that’s one person that dismissed him not the whole university.

@user-dp6xi7gq4k 2 жыл бұрын

Can you sue them?

@garrettthompson7250 2 жыл бұрын

This is BS. Sorry this happened to you man.

@zc4518 2 жыл бұрын

You can go to a different school or just UIUC again and transfer your credits.

@dylanvelloca6698 7 ай бұрын

I have only just found you through your most recent 1k player social experiment which was entertaining in a gaming setting. A college degree in the USA is utterly pointless unless you want to pursue a traditional degree like medical or law. I am not going to watch the entire video, but if you aren't pursing traditional degrees you have done yourself a favor. As someone in IT, I gained an associates. Pursued certifications and now make more than most of my peers. 100k for a paper is worthless. Investing in experience and knowledge in specifics is far more valuable. Take care, pursue your dreams and screw the noise.

@JonixEM 2 жыл бұрын

I wish there was something we the viewers could do to help out not just the students like yourself who have been treated unjustly, but help at least pressure the institutions to change and correct their mistakes.

@RainaPCB 7 ай бұрын

Firebomb

@adriannaa545 11 ай бұрын

I really hope you took disciplinary action against the university, this is horrible. Perhaps even go so far as a lawsuit. Thats horrible practice and terrible communication. I am thankful my university was not like this during the pandemic, but it's disheartening and infuriating to know that you had to go through all that.

@Honamo 2 жыл бұрын

I now have something to spend 50min on

@kevinchen1788 2 жыл бұрын

The sanctions placed by the University sound like they were having power trips everytime, it's comical. This is horrible. I'm a first year at this college.

@4everasnipa 9 ай бұрын

I haven’t watched the video and just read the description. If the mouth condition was documented, this is a easy win lawsuit. If its not, then there is not much that can be done.

@martintrajkovski6899 2 жыл бұрын

I am an international university media critic and this will be noted in any of my further university decision ratings.

@Ryndika 11 ай бұрын

I DON'T BLAME ISH. But any other student having problems in school, IMMEDIATELY contact more than one personnel. And HAVE A PERSONAL MEETING. Not email. Not phonecall.

@mrburger24 2 жыл бұрын

This is well said dude

@FailosHD 10 ай бұрын

i know im late to the party but this just makes me believe even more that the policies implemented during covid 19 were more about control and making examples out of defectors than actually keeping people safe

@crispy99996 11 ай бұрын

Good for you becuase you will create a masterpiece one day

@EJB93 8 ай бұрын

Dang, I grew up in Champaign. Sad

@myk7911 2 жыл бұрын

This is so sad 😭 one single email to the university health center would have made all the difference

@aserta 11 ай бұрын

1000 dollars says that if you'd take the UIUC upper strata and shake them good, all sorts of illegal offenses would fall, shame nobody's testing them to see just how clean they are...

@mickhommels5579 2 жыл бұрын

Hey ish13c how are you?

@Blathers 2 жыл бұрын

Just watched almost the entire video and it just seems like a ridiculous overreaction by the university and a lack of communication just crazy stuff

@abd_cheese7353 9 ай бұрын

Imagins ruining someones life because your pride and ego prevent you from admitting your mistakes

@FinnishCommando 3 ай бұрын

Bravo! Way to go ! 🎉❤

@CrazySeanYT Жыл бұрын

strike systems that have timers on how often you can break rules ... have to have some better way of spacing things out ... cause like i had a similar problem with my youtube channel ... back in the day , 1 strike lasted 2 weeks, then 2nd 3 months then 3rd was ban.... i got 2 strikes in like a week , that was fair enough (just to note ... what i got strikes for would not actually broken the rules of current youtube rules) .... what wasn't fair was .... my 3rd strike was of a video .... i made 3 months prior .... now if they struck me .... when i released it ... i wouldent have been banned .... they suddnly decided that as i have 2 strikes now .... that was the best time to go over things i had made months ago and catch me out.

@sigalius 2 жыл бұрын

While it's conceivable that you did the wrong thing by not seeking out other forms of testing, there's no way you could have expected that since the form of testing they were demanding was the one you were familiar with. The University is completely at fault for not providing you (and every other student) with clear and easy to find information on alternative testing methods. Instead, they let you stand around and waste time trying to produce enough saliva, when they could have instructed you toward an alternative course of action. That is their failure (among many), not yours. And they are at fault for not providing you with a line of contact with a case worker that would allow you to effectively communicate back and forth. (It seems like they didn't want to hear your side of things, they just wanted you to hear their side.) In addition, the University is at fault for their delayed communication and the fact that they didn't give you much to go on in the first emails. Instead of giving you clear guidelines on what to do to remedy the situation, they just wanted to chastise you. All in all, as much as it may be true that you didn't do exactly the right thing or take the best course of action, UIUC is effectively at fault here. In the grand scheme of things, it should be remembered that this is just a single case in the bigger picture of the reality that corporations and institutions were ill-prepared and poorly handled the covid-19 pandemic. The vast majority of companies, institutions, and governments dealt with the pandemic very poorly. And that's putting things nicely. Overall, the only one who deserves disciplinary action is the university itself. Shame on them. You say they're a respected institution, but frankly they have no respect from me. Nor does any university, as it has been sufficiently proven to any sane individual that the university system in the U.S. is morally bankrupt and seeks to exploit people for the sake of making profits.

@pleasedonotatme 2 жыл бұрын

All of this could have been avoided by him contacting the damn health center. He even recognizes that as an option. It was clear. Why didn't he talk with his Resident Assistant? His Resident Director? Send an email to the health center? Literally any person with authority? But he didn't do any of that because of hypotheticals he came up with that he admits was wrong. That's just negligence. He violated the policy 16 times and was warned multiple times. Even when he was told he needed to immediately go get tested, he decided not to thinking his case coordinator WOULD call him when the email stated that they "MAY call" him, or "IF they call" him. He's just negligent and refuses to accept it. If he ever decided to pursue legal action, he would lose. HE clearly doesn't have any grounds for a disability considering he meets none of the three criteria under the ADA to be considered disabled.

@sigalius 2 жыл бұрын

@@pleasedonotatme the people at the testing center that he went to should have dealt with this problem then and there. But they didn’t.

@pleasedonotatme 2 жыл бұрын

@@sigalius The people at the testing center are most likely hired students. You clearly overestimate how much people in any process have authority/information at any step of a process model. Regardless, that does not disbar him from contacting the health center.

@ommnon Жыл бұрын

bruh my cousin goes to UOI - UC thats really sad because its such a nice university

@Hemimana Жыл бұрын

Who is watching while trying to produce saliva

@dudebro1234 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have Sjögren’s syndrome? Did you try using candies like Jolly Ranchers to salivate?

@Scottx125Productions 11 ай бұрын

You should have taken them to court.

@Buffinton 5 ай бұрын

My Personal favourite Video of his

@lordofhunger5175 2 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely ridiculous, I’m rooting for things to go your Ish!

@Koshalamya 2 жыл бұрын

You will make an awesome lawyer!!!

@GrantCelley 11 ай бұрын

About Law umm not a lawyer but how is this not breaking title 9 or ADA. Like they had medical issues. You had dry mouth. I was a thermal screener. If you had an endoscopy you would have to have diarrhea to clean out the system. I still let them pass. If they got tested since the symptoms started or contact then I would let them pass. Why didn't the person at the front when you were given the sample ask you why it was empty. Like I said not a lawyer but still that institution broke at least ADA.

@socks5302 2 жыл бұрын

couldn’t you take nasal tests instead?

@YetiGx 2 жыл бұрын

No joke when I saw the thumbnail I thought u were like 30

@MrInterpriser 10 ай бұрын

Sue them

@joachim9445 2 жыл бұрын

4 min in and school or no school ur a lawyer allright

@Owen322 2 жыл бұрын

This is so stupid hope you can get things sorted out

@justin7608 2 жыл бұрын

I think you got lucky, you did not know about that nasal swab test. I had to take COVID-19 nasal swab test over a year ago. This was a horrible experience. I thought, the tester was reaching my brain. Both my eyes were watering. I can't imagine doing it twice a week.

@alexfraser2561 2 жыл бұрын

your being dramatic it’s not that bad i’ve gotten two within 30 seconds the pain goes away after a minute

@Whatismusic123 Жыл бұрын

you're one of those people scared of needles lmaooo

@OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO00 11 ай бұрын

Lucky? I think he'd prefer a nasal swab rather than being kicked out of college.

@BurrowSZN 2 жыл бұрын

I really think that the decision was harsh, but I can understand why they would do this especially since even though you weren’t aware, their was a nose option

@brethilnen Жыл бұрын

Ouch

@quentin8 2 жыл бұрын

rip

@jayjay2645 11 ай бұрын

MEGA VIDEO

@TheOnlyName 2 жыл бұрын

@Smitt-te7wv 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say this is just what so ever knowing you actually tried the best thing i would maybe go to a doctor see if you actually see if you have some condition with dry mouth then you prob have some discrimination against you

@Tia-gy1ij 2 жыл бұрын

wow. this is incredibly frustrating. I'm angry on your behalf.

@sun_irl 2 жыл бұрын

I relate on god 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@pleasedonotatme 2 жыл бұрын

As much as I sympathize with your 'condition' as someone with Sjogren's, not reaching out to the university to coordinate how you could be in compliance given your struggles is so painstakingly obvious as the course of action, your decision not to do so was simply negligent. You can't predicate your negligence on hypotheticals of what the school might do if you reached out either. Further, the email that you show about being contacted clearly shows, 'you MAY be contacted', and 'IF you are contacted', and you acted as if it was a given you'd be contacted. You were straight up wrong multiple times and you admit the thinking was faulty. Calling it faulty is sugar coating it. That is negligence. You failed to take proper care in upholding what was your end of a contract, and you did so multiple times. And just given the number of instances in which your thinking was (to your own admission) 'faulty', and the number of times that you were contacted and warned of a potential violation, regardless how ambiguous that was, you just displayed pure negligence by doing everything but what should have been done to uphold your duty of care to meet your own obligations. That's just negligence. In any real world scenario where you'd have any fiduciary duty to uphold a contract, something like this **would** be negligence. And for your whole spiel about how you're not the type of person to violate these rules, well, justice is blind, and you do not need a mens rea to commit and offense of a rule or law. You clearly violated the policy. You violated 16 times by skipping 16 tests. I think the sanction was appropriate considering the safety of the community was at stake, and the fiduciary duty the school had to uphold for every other student in ensuring COVID did not spread.

@johnsajo6399 2 жыл бұрын

Read Crime&Punishment by Dostoevsky. You are an honourable man, Godspeed.

@Raninguard 2 ай бұрын

@retrigot2207 2 жыл бұрын

wow

@QuackDragon Жыл бұрын

That was way way way too harsh

@VladTheImpaler2344 2 жыл бұрын

@lurlurlur 2 жыл бұрын

One point I haven't seen in the comments: I think you may be hurting your case by including elaborate descriptions of your COVID-responsible behavior during the time you weren't complying with the testing requirements. It can come across as an attempt to reduce the validity of the testing regimen, made worse by the irrelevance to the question of why you weren't complying.

@OHOE1 2 жыл бұрын

pog

@aidandrury9542 2 жыл бұрын

My theory is possibly as simple as you was dehydrated and you should have more to drink and be allowed to try again later

@SmurtzTR 2 жыл бұрын

fr ive never meant anyone like him

@user-qz6yn8mp1t 2 жыл бұрын

@Harvles93 2 жыл бұрын

For me, after you mention you have a condition that prevents you from generating excess saliva, why did not not contact your GP/Physician immediately for confirmation of this and pursue other avenues for testing? All in all, it seems this video is like a lackluster excuse for your dismissal. You had clear, fair medical grounds to make a case before letting it get to a dismissal stage, I dont understand why you let it spiral out of control. In any case, your best option is to seek legal advice, gather evidence of this condition and have your legal rep. present the University with the documentation and have all contact go via your legal rep. It will cost you money, no doubt about it, but can you put a price tag on your education, especially given how you handled this initially? I wish you the best of luck and I must admit, what they expect from you to attempt readmission is an absolute farce.