I guess it makes sense why it’s called the “black view,“ smart phone. A black view is all you’re going to get out of the thing.

I think the two IP ratings are something you get with these ruggedized phones. The phone gets the second higher IP rating when all the flaps and/or shutters are closed on the phone so I don't think the company should get faulted for that Edit: Apparently it may also be in reference to two different tests performed on the phone which it both passed as IPx9 doesn't necessarily mean it is IPx8

A little update: Apparently the dual IP rating a legitimate thing. It was pointed out to me that its likely for when the dust flaps are open and closed.

I definitely have to give Blackview credit for not gluing down the components but instead using screws everywhere. That's something I honestly didn't expect!

It's worth getting an ultrasonic cleaner and demineralized water. Works great for water damaged devices

PLEASE do more rugged phone models like this! The construction is so interesting compared to modern flaship phones

It's a shame because a company that screws instead of glues deserves support IMHO. I'd like to see you review their products or likely I'll search it right after typing this and see a review from someone who specializes in phone reviews.

BigClive owns one, and he did a "owner review" of it. Mainly used it for the FLIR camera, and was pretty happy with it.

The phone had been misused. The charging port cover is gone, making the phone not water resistant anymore, but the user still put it under water. I think you should charge the phone for longer if you still have the phone, because the battery is just at 2.34 volt after charging. It was still under-charged to power on the phone after a few hours. Usually phones need at least about 3.4 volts to power on. Since this is a gigantic battery, you need to be more patient to charge it.

Well if it wasn't badly repaired before, this might've survived his bath in salt water. I currently have one of them (purchased brand new) and it's definitely solid. Very strong performer for the specs it offers, nevers throttles due to heat, only issues are some bugs mostly related to android 11 just being an absolute mess to begin with. Of course, the marketing claims about the camera are just completely wrong, but that's what every phone manufacturers do. This phone clearly has its seal not properly positioned, hence why it has been damaged by the water

"For parts" implies phone no longer works, not really a scam.

I couldn't help but notice the "for parts" on the listing. If you bought it thinking that it would work when the seller disclosed that it was not in working condition, I think you're the one who made the mistake. (Could have worded better looking back on it)

Blackview is a interesting company with a bunch of weird and interesting design choices like having a phone with a 720p laser projector in it.

Love your videos Hugh! As for the dual IP certification, IP68 is resistant to water submersion, while IP69 is resistant to water jets. Phones can be tested and certified for both classes as far as I know, so that's likely what they're referring to in the features page.

Hey mate, Saw your video on the Blackview rugged phone.. In 2018-2021 I used this one for a solid 3 years and gave it an absolute hammering.. It was used in salt water pools, oceans, rivers, dropped from EWPs 🤣 I found it lived up to its hype.. the 4G speeds were on par.. wireless charging was pretty neat.. the thermal camera was like the FLIR dongle for iPhone.. and for the price it was pretty neat although the camera tactics were a bit dodge on their website.. it really wasn’t the worst camera in the world and I find it better than the Motorola razr 2018 Just thought I’d let you know my experience

Sorry to hear that you couldn't get this phone up and running again. I completely agree that it isn't worth buying new components if the device has been severely water damaged like that. Furthermore, the battery was a bit cooked - at under 2V original voltage level, there's no way that would be detected. Most phones and devices should have a protection circuit that stops the battery/cells from going below 2.5V per cell. But thankfully, buying it from eBay means that you can open a return request for "item not as described".

why writing a bad review to the seller? he clearly said selling for parts...you knew what you were getting but now you are regretting buying. that's unfair.

Glad to see you share the fails alongside the success. Great video and learning experience and glad it didn't cost you anything!

"The Joke Is On You" - Niki Watkins Would've played out perfectly during the outro. Unfortunately KZfaq copyright exists so you will have to use your imagination...

I use a 9900 pro. While it’s not perfect. I would much rather use it than give apple any money, and at half the cost. The thermal cam is an added bonus

It is not wise to power up a device that has WATER IN IT. for all you know that half amp is devoted to causing irreparable electrolitic corrosion. At least heatgun the moisture out of it first.

That's a real shame. Well done getting your money back. It's looks an awesome phone though. I love the construction and look of it. Seemed strange hearing the same music used by Techmoan at the end.

Your ebay listing said "for parts or not working". But you expected it to work. Would have been a nice bonus but to expect that is unreasonable. Those SMT components look like they have been messed with by someone who didn't really know what they were doing, using improper tools. I think someone already went at this board with a heat gun.

Well I was the owner of BV9000 Pro for 5 years and it was the most durable phone I ever had. I literally used to drop it in front of my friends to show it's durability. Except for weight &camera (which according to specs I expected to be not that good) everything was very good quality for me. To me it looks like what you ordered is simply used product.

Love the integrity that you put forth in your videos!

The description says "for parts or not working" and you gave negative feedback because you couldn't make it work? Jeeeesus

I think you were scammed by the Seller, but of an inferior product. You never got to use the device new, and as consumers know, a lot of what we buy is made from dodgy materials held together with adhesive. Only a test on a new Blackview would reveal its functionality and operability. But, high points for "Right to Repair"?

I have to say, I like that you're trying to get these phones back up and running. I do that with cars, give them to someone who can really use it. Unfortunately, not all things are savable like this thing. Good try though and will continue to watch even if there isn't a happy ending.

That battery does not have enough juice to power any phone on. The usual voltage range for a lithium battery is between about 3V and 4.2V. I think most phones will not power up with 2.3V. But with that said, I very much doubt if the battery is your only problem.

If this phone was actually built with quality components and good software it could be a really good option. 6,5Ah battery which is in its own case/tray and screwed in with easy access? Hell yeah, I'm sure there's several construction companies that would love these as work phones....

These durable phones are quite interesting Thanks for the look on the inside :)

as someone who has used the bv9500 plus model for 2 years i can vouch for it being a semi-decent phone. despite the stock photo thing i only had beef with 3 things, the camera autofocus got messed up when it got dropped for the first time (on a carpeted floor from the edge of a bed), there is a watermark on your photos unless you disable it in the settings and there is an undissableable notification led. got annoyed with the led and had to open the phone to break it but other than that it's been fine. the battery has held up and so has the waterproofing.

Devices have multiple IP ratings depending on what they were tested for. The chart you included showed this, as an IPX8 rating is for submersion but an IPX9K/5 rating is for water spray/high pressure. IP ratings don’t stack. Sony phones are often advertised with IPX5 and IPX8 for instance.

Such a great video. What is amazing is how so many people think they can lie and scamming is alright. Also many people are abusive to electronics and think they will keep functioning. Although Blackview is supposed to be a tough phone. Thanks for the posting.

This man really returns a for parts or not working device because it didn’t work

Blackview are pretty well known in Europe, they don't make anything flagship grade, that I know of, but I know they make these "durable" phones. I want to point out you shouldn't make an opinion based on a second hand, damaged phone you bought on eBay, that's unfair. As for the stock images we all know that Blackview are not the first to do that. Then there's their prices and what they're made for, these are pretty cheap phones and many users find them to be well made for their purpose.

very interesting video cuz most of us have never heard of blackview. maybe you could have a followup video on a brand new version of the same phone to see if the "rugged" design choices are actually good for the phone's durability or if it was purely user error that caused all this water damage.

That moment when the very last music track in this video he used is the Techmoan outro one and was confused for a sec if I just made that up in my mind lol

I wonder if Blackview phones will pass a JerryRigEverything durability test

Pressing and holding the power button, we see, WE SEE!, nothing happens 😂😂

I love how you never give up on anything. I think you’re like me, even when I see some phone is trashed I’m doing my best to try to save it. But to be honest once I revived iPhone 6s motherboard which was broken apart. So you never know 😂. With lights on but nobody home 😂😂 Info: Blackview is owned by iGet which is Chinese brand, making phones for long time by what I remember

I have had an Oukitel WP5 for awhile and I really love this phone. Not looking forward to having to shop for a new one eventually. Only real flaw I've found is the speakers are on the back and get easily muffled. I use bluetooth all the time for my audio anyway. I got it just before the pandemic. Waterproof enough to go in the shower, and sometimes I'd just drop it into the left over bleach water from the dishes to sanitize it. Worked on T-Mobile and now on Verizon despite Verizon saying it wouldn't. I've dropped it from 8 feet (on accident) to concrete and dozens of other times with no cracks. I'm very rough on my tech just my personality and at $136 US this phone has been a blessing.

Well it is a for parts phone so don’t expect it to power on even after trying to fix it

It's been mentioned already it seems, but yeah, multiple IP ratings can make sense, since not all of the water ratings are the same or are sequential. The first number talks about solids, the ratings 1-6 describe how large of a solid item can get into the device, ranging from a hand being able to reach in at IP 0 or 1, to being dust tight at IP6. The second number talks about liquids, namely water. The first few numbers, 1-4 refer from dripping water to splashing water, increasing in how much water and how many sides of the device are protected. 5-6 are related, but refer to higher pressure jets of water, probably ranging from a squirt bottle to a higher pressure hose. 7 and 8 are what most people have heard about: submersion resistance. 9 is more of a successor to 5 and 6, since it deals with high pressure *and* high temperature water jets. And I'd be confident in saying that the tests are all done with fresh water, since salt and chlorine from oceans and pools can all vary in concentration.

the anticipation of seeing the screen boot up after it was put back together with Hugh saying "we see, we seee" was hilarious to say the least. got me cracking up like crazy.🤣🤣🤣

I do a lot of servicing; "salt water eats through just about anything it is exposed", chances of recovery are very slim to none.

Smartphone companies: claims phones are water resistant Also smartphone companies: doesn’t honor warranty for water damage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It looks more like a phone attracts water than a water proof phone, it doesn't seem very well engineered. Unfortunately not everything is repairable the important thing is that you enjoyed yourself and got your money back. Nice video as always.

Been using Blackview phones for the last couple of years. Cheap and work perfect. (I now own this 9800 Pro since almost a year). If I drop them they do not break like a Samsung or a Iphone. And if it breaks I buy another. Done videos with them underwater and low light photo's came out good enough. But keep the rubber covers in place underwater. There should be one on the charging port also. FLIR camera also works perfect.

Big Fan here... THANK YOU 🙏 HUGH JEFFREYS FOR ALL THE AWESOME VIDEOS!!! 👏🔥🥊

It literally says 'for parts' and describes the damage that you later pretended like you miraculously found. Wtf?

The battery was way too empty for it to turn on. You need roughly 3.4V or more for it to turn on, try manually charging the battery to full with an external power supply and then try to turn the phone on again.

Love your videos and love the way you say data

The two IP ratings are about submersion and about high pressure water jets, which are very different things.

I have that phone and for the most part it is fine. The thing that is lacking a lot is a good software experience, but on the hardware part it is fine.

what liquid did you use for cleaning? and did you really use a brass brush to clean the battery connector? wouldnt that be a fun way to really create a short?

Way back I used to work with environmental testing for a major telecoms manufacturer, I wasn't working on mobiles but other kit. We decided the IP rating system (at the time early 2000s) didn't meet our goals and started using a US military spec for wind driven rain, that was way harsher.

to b fair to blackview. i got my child one of their phones, a 5800 pro if i remember correctly. hes 3, he uses it for games, youtube kids and drawing. browser and everything else is hidden, and theres no sim card in it. Anyway, 6 months on, and the phone is still in remarkably pristine condition. we havent told him its waterproof (for many obvious reasons). i would at least expect it to fair well against spillages and stuff. Not a bad phone honestly, a lot more rugged than i expected. I think this video inadvertently gives the impression that these phones are scammy trash, but thats really not the case at all. i think its also good practice to just not take your "waterproof" phone swimming. dont risk it. even an iphone or something. taking it into a pool is just tempting fate.

Was good to see another model of my phone's inside, I have the Blackview 9900 PRO and it is amazing doing everything I need and more

Who would ever imagine that a $58 phone could have anything wrong with it?

I use Blackview smartphones for 6 years roughly.. first I had BV7000 Pro for 3 years lol even works flawlessly now. next I had BV9600 Pro for another 3 years and it works flawlessly too. Now I have BV8800 which I bought 2 weeks ago.. and I can say they can be used in an "extreme conditions" for at least 3 years..

FIY the IP69K is a separate certification from the standard IP rating. This one is telling you the phone is actually capable of withstanding high pressure blasts of water, while IP68 only tells you about SUBMERGING the phone (no pressure involved). You could actually wash the phone with a car washer lol.

bought one of these for the battery life and the flir. problem with waterproof things is once water gets in there, it stays. since there was moisture still inside it was likely a poor repair job and some overconfidence that did it in.

It can be possible to have different IP ratings based on type and time, i.e. certain timeframe under high temperature high pressure water jets and also a time/depth submersion in water; your device may survive a 1 meter/15 minute rating which has a higher # than high pressure water jets though the device may not survive any time with high temperature high pressure water jets. While this isn’t necessarily the case with phones it can be under some industrial devices; devices can also have different IP ratings based on door/panel closures like hardened laptops which will have a different IP rating with the ports open vs. when the port covers are in place. Typically manufacturers will rate devices against the water threat # they want though and won’t test other #s which can have different modalities of testing; just remember an IP rating of x7 doesn’t mean the device is capable of passing x(1-6), though in some cases it can it isnt tested time that criteria and should be assumed to be able to meat those standards.

I got scammed on purchasing something directly from Blackview a few years back... It could have been worse, but it was something jokingly cheap. So, I couldn't be irritated, not like the Red Magic I bought, that was complete crap, but just relatively cheap.

A complete disaster. Very insightful. I wonder if Blackview watched this. They're a level of scammy images and waterproof promises that make me wonder. What is really going on with their devices?

I've had a blackview for a couple of years now, I hammer phones pretty hard and live on a farm, I'm very happy with it, it's been stamped on by an irate trespasser, dropped on concrete, left in the rain and literally dropped it in a puddle on the beach yesterday and I'm posting with it now, keep the port covers closed, get a case and a screen protector and it's bombproof

If you wrapped your mercedes around a pole and then drove it into the ocean, would you blame mercedes or yourself?

I don’t think it’s very fair of you to buy a phone for “parts only or not working” then return it because you can’t get it to work after you cleaned it. People normally buy these phones when they need components, housings etc. you don’t know what does or doesn’t work after the water damage as you haven’t tested any of the parts apart from the battery that might of worked if it had more voltage. Water damage phones can be fixed it your choice you don’t want to or can’t fix it but yet it listed for parts only not repair and it will be working. I don’t see where you got scammed if anything you’ve scammed content/postage fees out of a eBay seller and left them a bad review which will effect what type of rated seller they are.

it's interesting to see the inside of these rugged phones, shame it was already beaten to death before you got ahold of it because it would be neat to see how a new one would cope with being opened (if it would stay rugged/waterproof/etc)

Thank you, Hugh. This phone does not seem to be for high gentry. Worker, farmer, etc. They need some kind of ruggedness and waterproofing.

0:25 the ad you show CLEARLY states "for parts" I really don't follow what you're trying to call a scam

For the love of all that is holy, DO NOT attempt to power on a device with visible condensation in the camera lenses.

I’ve got one. Had no bother with it at all and the FLIR camera built in is a great add on. Cost less for the phone with FLIR than a dedicated FLIR camera with the same resolution! Admittedly I haven’t been for a swim in the brine with it so that has probably helped it’s lifespan! Camera images are clear enough but not as vibrant/bit darker than I expected, easily sorted in software though.

The BV9800 pro is an absolute beast of a phone. Mine has been abused relentlessly for two years, has gouges and dents out of the metal, has been repeatedly dropped on concrete, hit with welding and grinding sparks and still has a two day battery life. If you want a rugged phone, they are one of the best

You buy a broken phone from eBay and say the brand is not good? 😑 You can't even know how it went through before 🤔

after watching this video the seller will probably re-list it as "professionally refurbished"

I have actually had BlackView BV phones since 2015. They last a long time, and my current one (BV9500Pro) has survived diving in salt water, drops from 6 meters down onto concrete, etc. Had to swap the battery due to swelling after 3 months. Great phone now running Android 11 using Project Treble.

I have a blackview B9900 pro, I used it for a year until I bought a faster ,smaller rugged phone. I now use it at work for the infra red camera and it's been great for that.

maybe dotn show the listing that clearly shows "for parts" and then trying to say you got scammed. you bought a broken phone... it arrived broken. thats not a scam.

Some companies will use generic photos so long as the images were taken by a camera using the same imager (aka the picture sensor, most smaller phone companies will use generic imagers from companies like Sony). This isn't completely uncommon by Chinese phone companies as taking westernized photos legally can be somewhat pricey. However, I'm not entirely sure if this is what Blackview is doing.

So I have this phone and I've had it for a couple of years now and for the most part its fine. I noticed yours was missing the charging port cover. In the manual it says it is NOT waterproof WITHOUT the charging port cover. If you look at it, its obviously going to break off eventually which is why I charge mine with a wireless charger. The documentation is terrible but it has a ton of features not found on phones (or not found on them anymore). As long as I disable google's more power-hungry services, I get about a month of standby time out of one charge. I originally got this as a work phone because it has a FLIR Lepton thermal camera. The only other camera at the time with a thermal camera was the CAT S60, which didn't work on Verizon. The biggest disappointment is speed. It is far, far slower than something like an S10, but still fast enough that mobile games are the only place you'd notice it. It also looks like whoever got yours didn't use the included screen protector film. As far as "ruggedized" goes, this is the first phone I've had since before the iphone 1 that I haven't had to stick in an otterbox to carry it in a cargo pocket and not worry about it. Mine has been pretty abused with the exception of me knowing its probably not waterproof and its still fine.

It's nice to see everything isn't successful. I had a lot of fails like those and feel like a looser. But watch someone tough like you failed, make me feel a bit less like a looser. 😄

I'm surprised your return got accepted, opening something up and admitting it in the return reason would be an open and shut deny from ebay and the seller

You didn’t get scammed, and what is a daughter board?

Thank you for this video it's so hard to find any information about even a legitimate Blackview.

My dad got me the BV1000 2 years ago (as a punishment, lol). It's a Blackview Nokia-style phone. It was supposed to be the most durable, unbreakable, anything-proof there was, resistant to almost anything. It broke one or two months after. It fell at a not-so-weird angle and smashed half of the digitizer into oblivion.

Not even a minute in you are pissing and moaning about a ebay phone *Clearly Marked: FOR PARTS* ie: *junk* *-1*

I fail to see how you were scammed. You bought a phone listed "for parts or not working" "doesn't power on" sounds like it was described perfectly fine. I hope you get your eBay account deactivated returning stuff like that.

My BV9900 Pro is 1.5 years old, it has been dropped to the point I had to take a knife and deburr it. Still going solid. The upgrade to Android 10 made it feel like a brand new phone. For cleaning, I always let it rest in water for a while, without problems.

I have a BlackView, a different model than this one and it is an OK-sh phone. Got it just for the built in FLIR Thermal Camera, which works better than any of the FLIR phone attachments.Took it swimming with me and there were no issues thereafter. The phone you received is missing the USB charge port plug, that is likely how the water got in. Also any equipment used in salt water needs to be rinsed in fresh water to avoid future problems and being a diver, I found that not everyone does it well.

The one you bought second hand for parts didn't work. Buy them new if you want them to work, you prune! This is a phone that goes in water, if somebody is selling it then it will be because the water seal failed (hence the FOR PARTS). Honestly, this is terribly poor from you. First time I seen you, and you cannot even buy things correctly so far.

Having to see a phone with a “Waterproof” badging dead in in the inside like this is bad😂

I bought the Blackview BL8800 Pro new and it's been an amazing phone as it's delivered everything it claims. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with this brand

I remember either up until the s4 or s5 they made rugged models of the phone. They were cool but probably were discontinued due to poor sales

U didn't get scammed. The ad said that the phone doesn't power on and only to be used for parts. It's kinda crappy to leave a negative review on a seller that didn't scam you and even sent a return label.

At 0:25 and 0:46, you can clearly see that the seller has marked the condition of the phone as 'For parts or not working', and said that it won't power on. Of course, I wouldn't pay $60 for a phone in that condition, but you can't really say it's a scam, can you?

Used a Blackview BV4900 for over a year, served me good with no problems. Replaced it a few weeks ago because I needed more storage. Not a bad company. :)

I have this phone. A variation of it anyway. Ulefone Armor X5. Still works after three years. Not a single problem. Still waterproof too. Was meant to be a replacement till I can afford a premium phone but it just kept going single it never gave me a single problem.

I have few blackview phones for their thermo camera. Is a very reliable and rugged phone for the job i do. I do like them. Your review unfortunately is misleading like blackview marketing 😂😂 You bought a broken phone to review it ? smh