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I had a smile surgery. Here's what happened...

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Nate Babaev

Nate Babaev

Күн бұрын

I had a laser eye surgery called ReLEx SMILE to improve my vision. That's why, in this video, I decided to I talk about my SMILE laser eye surgery experience in Finland, and how fast it healed. I hope my experience will help you to compare SMILE to PRK or LASIK.
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@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
I had SMILE in 2019 and it has ruined both my eyes. I am now partially sighted and disabled. I also need glasses more than before. The industry is not regulated and vendors operate with little care for patients. NEVER, EVER allow commercially motivated surgeons touch your healthy eyes. I try to spread my story to help others. Please thumbs up.
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. There’s many aspects to consider before having SMILE like any other surgery.
@Peehoo123
@Peehoo123 Жыл бұрын
Wt happened to u...plz reply
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@Peehoo123 I live my life in chronic pain, inability to open both eyes beyond a crack, terrible eyesight even with glasses, I have filamentary kerititus that means i have rough pieces of tissue forming on my corneas that feels like having sawdust in my eyes 24/7.
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@mutualinduction7236 You need to read the published research and not the sales pitch from surgeons. Its unregulated, they say what they want. It will take time to understand. Start by obtaining the patient information booklet produced by the laser manufacturer. Usually surgeons avoid issuing this. The bottom line is it is neither safe nor effective. Most ophthalmologists know to avoid the procedure even though they are able to exercise safety.
@xoxomariina
@xoxomariina Жыл бұрын
​@@-1-2-1- what happened during your surgery that you had complications? I got SMILE surgery done in 2021 and had an amazing experience and wonderful outcome. I also made sure to find a reputable surgeon who had a lot of experience with this procedure specifically. I'm sorry to hear it didn't go well for you though.
@paulglover6862
@paulglover6862 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. It sounds like you had a very successful operation.
@SneazingFish
@SneazingFish Жыл бұрын
What was your pupil size? And the optical zone used in the surgery? Mine is 7,5mm and OZ would be set to 7mm but I'm having doubts about permanent glares as I have quite large pupils.
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
It only lasts around 5years as regression is typically -0.11D per year. It's a terrible amount of damage to your corneas for just a few years of not glasses. I needed glasses after 9months.
@nicoleverhasselt8891
@nicoleverhasselt8891 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it depend on a lot of factors like age etc? Most people I know have no issues, only when they hit 40/45y and get +
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@nicoleverhasselt8891 THe surgeon will aim for more hyperopia the younger you are. As the older you are the less accomodation you have. THerefore more likley to complain about loss of short sight. So, yes the older you are the less benefit there is. Again surgeon do not tell you this. They need sales and no complaints within the first year only.
@HeleusHere
@HeleusHere Жыл бұрын
​@@-1-2-1-2 years after smile, I'm 22 yo and i feel slow regression whole this time which is super annoying. I just regret i was stupid thinking the best recent eye surgery will replace lenses and glasses. And yeah, i still see holo effect and studd
@maar73n79
@maar73n79 Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate but don't make these baseless claims trying to scare people on here. I had my surgery yesterday and it's such a relief to see my eyes improve so quickly. Of course I am aware I may have a light recovery compared to others, but posting these horror stories (and not making people inform themselves through reputable sources) is quite appalling. There are always risks in every form of surgery and your surgeon/hospital informs you about the (minimal) chance of these, if not you've seen a quaker. And it's normal that from 40 years onwards, you might need reading glasses as your eye ages like any other. My experience has been nothing but positive😊
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@maar73n79Are you a promotor/marketeer? If you are a real patient who did your surgery? Baseless?? I have two barely functional eyes. My surgeon has several clinical negligence cases against him for the lives he has destroyed as do many of the active surgeons. But the economics still favour those who choose to do this to unsuspecting patients. From your stance it's pretty clear you were not handed the laser manufacturers patient information booklet that shows just a snippet of the appalling stats of SMILE. You would have to be mad to go ahead if you were aware of the real world results. If you can see anywhere near normal consider yourself extremely lucky.
@giocurve
@giocurve Жыл бұрын
I'm over 40 and I'm getting the SMILE Laser surgery next month. I was told that reading up close is not gonna be clear anymore, only distance vision will be clear. So you said that in the beginning reading up close for you wasn't clear and then later on you were able to read up close in clear vision?? If so, how long did that take for you to read clear up close? During my consultation, they told me since I'm over 40, I will need a reading glass for near visual such as reading text or reading a book. I appreciate your reply. :)
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
I hope you have not done this yet. You are 40 and have prebyopia that will progress very noticabley each year from now. You will loose near vision in an attempt to get far vision. Near vision only gets worse, never improves. They may try to confuse you by claiming the regression will help this, but that is misleading. You will also get HOAs that means a reduction in both near and far vision quality, including more scattered light , haloes, starbursts and poor contrast. Basically a low optical quality cornea. Not to mention all the health issues.
@nale5539
@nale5539 Жыл бұрын
How are you right now after surgery? Im 36 and n i am so hesitant
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@nale5539 There are almost endless reasons not to have laser surgery. Most opthalmologists steer clear of it. but on just the benefits, unless instructed by you the surgeon will aim for 0 to minus0.5D. The variance is generally over plus minus 0.5D. Similar story with astigmatism. That means if you cannot tolerate an error of say -0.75D with say 0.5D astigmatism, and a differnt perscription for the other eye, you will need glasses. You can "try" a realstic laser outcome by going to the optom and trying -0.75D and say 0.5D astig. Also, many surgeons avoid providing the patient information booklet issued by Carl Zeiss. This is a booklet that the SMILE laser machine manufacturer publishes to help inform the patient. Unfortunately surgeons routinely avoid issuing it to the patient. If you need it I can send it to you.
@mohammadalotaibi9036
@mohammadalotaibi9036 11 ай бұрын
​@nale5539 don't do any correction I'm 41 and i did trans prk i wish if i sticked with my glasses believe me you don't want to miss with your near sight even my eyes look is changed i had attractive eyes after correction they shrinked and became red all the time.
@davidfwilliams1960
@davidfwilliams1960 11 ай бұрын
at 40 it's almost mal practice for anyone to do this to you. You'd be better off with lens replacement surgery as that will deal with presbyopia as well which will make your vision progressively worse going forward.
@Fassnight
@Fassnight Жыл бұрын
I just had SMILE a week ago and I absolutely hate it. Everything is hazy, lights are glowing all the time, cant see up close or far away. Hate it. Wish I would have done Lasik or not at all
@Patrick90
@Patrick90 10 ай бұрын
How is it now? I would imagine a lot of people would experience what you did 1 week post surgery.
@angelica.138
@angelica.138 10 ай бұрын
Me too, how is it now?
@NehaYadav-ef3fz
@NehaYadav-ef3fz 9 ай бұрын
Hey..how's your eyes vision now
@sarahyy.yy_3
@sarahyy.yy_3 9 ай бұрын
​@@angelica.138 how is your vision now
@angelica.138
@angelica.138 9 ай бұрын
@@sarahyy.yy_3 1 month after surgery and my vision is ok, I can do everything without glasses (work on pc, sport, night driving) I have a very little bit of myopia but it can increase, and sometimes I have halos around illuminated objects (like a slightly dirty photograph), because cornea isn’t perfect yet. It will improve in the next 5 months
@TheWanderTraveller
@TheWanderTraveller 6 ай бұрын
Good one. Thanks for making this video
@DjMistaV
@DjMistaV 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, I might do it too. Have you noticed a change in eye strain / fatigue when working on a computer for a long time?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev 2 жыл бұрын
For the first two months, I had more eye strain than now. Then I followed this 20-20-20 rule, which helps my eyes relax when I stare at computer screens for too long. 20-20-20 rule: Every 20 minutes, take a 20-second break and focus your eyes on something at least 20 feet away (opto.ca/health-library/the-20-20-20-rule). I don't feel the need for this exercise precisely every 20 minutes, but once in a while, I try it when my eyes feel tired. Also, having a good light setup in my work environment helps me decrease eye fatigue.
@alexkenty6258
@alexkenty6258 4 ай бұрын
@@NateBabaevhow are you feeling now bro ? I’m developer also have problem with screens 20 days passed out
@MedNoor1997
@MedNoor1997 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but i have a question for you, you mentioned that you had problem with near vision , so when did it becomes clear again after the surgery?
@salihselevani3977
@salihselevani3977 Жыл бұрын
How much - degree did you had before surgery? And in which age did you do the surgery?
@mhar1763
@mhar1763 Жыл бұрын
Avoid surgeries if u want remove glass Gohead contact lenses which is super comfortable even swimming or playing etc…
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
learn to love glases. Its the only thing that can get you 20:10 vision. You should only expect 20:30 from laser and a significant increase in higher order uncorrectable abborations. Hence the common description of "vaseline vision"
@e.s.180
@e.s.180 Жыл бұрын
when did your nearsight improve? How long did it take. I had my Smile surgery a few days ago and my nearsight is not so good. :(
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
It was really good after 1-2 months. Few days isn’t much, so I’d wait a bit and not worry. But of course I’m not a doctor, so, if you think it’s really bad, talk with your surgeon
@e.s.180
@e.s.180 Жыл бұрын
@@NateBabaev many thanks for your response. did your sight improve in this time as well?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
@@e.s.180 I think after 1-2 months, there’s no special improvement. I had yearly check recently and one of my eyes actually were under done. Even though surgeon said it was overdone at first, and it will improve over time, it didn’t. So I will go to correction for that eye.
@kingzzdesnooker131
@kingzzdesnooker131 Жыл бұрын
@@NateBabaevi think it is not possible to get a recorrection after smile surgery. Possible with lasik but not with smile
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
@@kingzzdesnooker131 yes, SMILE can only be done once. If there’s correction, the suggested one for me is LASIK.
@josephseo4030
@josephseo4030 4 ай бұрын
How long did it take for you to see clearly again after the surgery? week? months?
@ldballoon4
@ldballoon4 7 ай бұрын
thank you. I got it done recently.
@vikasbhati8132
@vikasbhati8132 6 ай бұрын
After how many days u took bath?
@viodo4649
@viodo4649 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. How are your eyes at the moment?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
They’re very good
@davidrlifts
@davidrlifts 10 күн бұрын
How are your eyes now? Any degradation?
@mulsejuhl9755
@mulsejuhl9755 Жыл бұрын
Where did you buy The glasses to where after The operation ?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
Hospital gave it
@NitinKumar-wz4xb
@NitinKumar-wz4xb Жыл бұрын
2 weeks gone but my vision also hazy in daytime. Also vision is glaring while i use laptop. Light is not stable in one place and it passes near the object so i feel hazy vision in daytime.
@dulcelilita216
@dulcelilita216 11 ай бұрын
Are you better now ??? Pleaze anser me ...i wil have this operation next Friday😢
@sarahyy.yy_3
@sarahyy.yy_3 9 ай бұрын
Any updates
@sarahyy.yy_3
@sarahyy.yy_3 9 ай бұрын
​@@dulcelilita216 how did your surgery go? Any updates
@dulcelilita216
@dulcelilita216 9 ай бұрын
@@sarahyy.yy_3 I had Dreamt with that I was in hospital and doctor stoped my surgery in the sist minut. That what had happened exactly on friday.......he stopped my operation saying me that was dangerios for you and I don't recomended it for you and how they sent you to me. .....CONCLUTION he saved my live and my iyes. This operation is only recomended for people Who have a bite of miopia not alot.
@galaxy9448
@galaxy9448 Ай бұрын
Please give updates
@artongashi6206
@artongashi6206 4 ай бұрын
What diopter do you have and what cylinder?
@anushkaahsan6941
@anushkaahsan6941 Жыл бұрын
After how many days after the surgery did you see absolutely clearly? It's been almost 3 weeks since may surgery and vision is still kinda hazy. Is it normal or not😢?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
If you’re talking about seeing far, it was already great after few hours of surgery.
@jeyjey3355
@jeyjey3355 Жыл бұрын
I feel you! Today it’s been 4 weeks / 1 month and my vision is still kinda hazy, I’m really worried 😞
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@jeyjey3355 dont do any activities that dry them out. Get plenty of sleep. Get it monitored by another opthalmologist. THe surgeon will only say its fine even when it not.
@NitinKumar-wz4xb
@NitinKumar-wz4xb Жыл бұрын
2 weeks gone but my vision also hazy in daytime. Also vision is glaring while i use laptop. Light is not stable in one place and it passes near the object so i feel hazy vision in daytime.
@Thinkhigh865
@Thinkhigh865 10 ай бұрын
​@@NitinKumar-wz4xbhow your vision right now brother?
@nut941
@nut941 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. Which hospital/clinic did you get your eyes done? Who was your surgeon? I also live in Finland and planning to get same surgery. Thanks in advance
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
Hi! At Eira Hospital and surgeon was Jarno Ylitalo. Petri Oksman also is very popular there.
@nut941
@nut941 Жыл бұрын
@@NateBabaev Hi, thanks for answering. I’m also considering Eira, went there for the pre checkup. What was your prescription before surgery? Im mostly worried about under/over correction. Were you given any guarantee for what your eyesight would be after surgery?
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@nut941 PLease don't go ahead until you have done your homework. Start by asking for the patient information booklet that they have to give you but only upon request. One surgeon fighting this bad industry says SMILE inflicts more damage to the corneal nerve plexus than lasik. It is a marketing gimmick as people dont like the idea of the large flap.
@asustufa1515
@asustufa1515 7 ай бұрын
@@nut941 Did you have at eira? I'm also considering with Petri Oksman. My sights are -2.5 and -2.75
@nut941
@nut941 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@asustufa1515 Yes, Eira around 6 months ago. Everything went well, but I would recommend to visit atleast one more clinic for pre-check. Felt a bit rushed at Eira, but this might be industry standard.
@KiaraShetty-bi6xk
@KiaraShetty-bi6xk Жыл бұрын
Can i wear colored contacts after smile?
@sarahyy.yy_3
@sarahyy.yy_3 9 ай бұрын
How was your experience of smile?
@Maxime.Abi-Khattar
@Maxime.Abi-Khattar 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but at least 1 week after the surgery, to make sure everything is well healed.
@meensinghsingh
@meensinghsingh Ай бұрын
Full vission recovery in how much time???
@user-jr3vd9iy3f
@user-jr3vd9iy3f Жыл бұрын
How long was your vision blurry looking at computers? It’s been 14 weeks for me post smile and my vision is sometimes blurry when looking at computers - but good for long distance most of the time. My surgeon said he overcorrected my vision and my brain hadn’t adjusted yet, but 14 weeks seems like a while…
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
My blurry vision with computers lasted around 2 months. Later, it got better and better. I had talked about it to my surgeon, and he also told me the same thing that he over corrected.
@twisteddiana
@twisteddiana Жыл бұрын
I have my SMILE surgery booked in a month, but have second thoughts, with over-corrections being one of the issues I'm afraid of. I work on the computer and want to have stable vision close-up. Was the over-correction intentional?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
@@twisteddiana at least, my doctor said it was intentional (don’t know why). But I haven’t had any issues with that anymore so far. I can see the close up or far without a problem.
@twisteddiana
@twisteddiana Жыл бұрын
@@NateBabaev Thanks a lot for answering! Really glad your vision stabilized. Enjoy 20/20!
@thenilusss4911
@thenilusss4911 Жыл бұрын
@@twisteddiana Overcorrections are important, because higher order aberrations after surgery (bad night, display and double vision) needs to flatten out by stroma regrow. When your eye is healthy, your stroma will regrow until your vision is clear. This can result to nearsightness, when your vision would be exactly 0 post operative. At very long periods, your eye would become nearsighted until your vision is clear (but only when your eye has healthy ceratocytes). For example when you read a lot and you are young (until 40), your retina triggers regrow of your cornea stroma until the light is focused to a single point, but this needs time, because slow turnover of that cells 2 - 3 Years. This is the cause why industrial countries suffer from nearsightness. Its because displays needs clear vision and this triggers regrow of stroma cells until vision is clear, but this process can end up in glasses again.
@TommiHonkonen
@TommiHonkonen Жыл бұрын
holy shit suomileijona necklace i am probably going to get surgery soon too
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
THis surgery will ruin your eyes like it did mine. Industry is unregulated and surgeons are only commercially motivated. Save your eyes.
@frontalroast4851
@frontalroast4851 Жыл бұрын
im going in 2 weeks bro, im shitting my pants rn
@lodano413
@lodano413 9 ай бұрын
Update ?@@frontalroast4851
@oscatMeow
@oscatMeow 8 ай бұрын
@@frontalroast4851 how'd it go
@GoHappyThoughts
@GoHappyThoughts 8 ай бұрын
Hi how old are u?
@missraja6307
@missraja6307 Жыл бұрын
Brother are you sure these symptoms go away after surgery
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
No they are permeant. I had SMILE in 2019 and I have appalling vision and need glasses more than before the surgery.
@missraja6307
@missraja6307 Жыл бұрын
@@-1-2-1- I am going yo cancel my appointment than if this is the case
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@missraja6307Opthalmologists avoid the surgery themselves. THat tells you enough. Save your eyes. If you somehow get tempted message me and I will show you the real data and not the marketing.
@missraja6307
@missraja6307 Жыл бұрын
@@-1-2-1- yeah i ‘m interested to know more about it
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
I could already see clearly after a day. For a week or close sight was problem. Overall, after a month everything goes away except the glaring text sometimes when the contrast is too high. Other than that, it’s been fine.
@nontl5197
@nontl5197 Жыл бұрын
How long does it take for you to see clearly after the surgery?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
Basically few hours after the surgery, my vision was clear. However, as I mentioned in the video, I had issue with reading books for some time.
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
It never clears. I libve my life like a clear bag has been put over my head. COnstant pain. Surgeon says he did a good job but "I should not have expected perfect results"
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
@@-1-2-1- I think you should sue your surgeon. If your eyes didn’t suit for such surgery, they should’ve let you know + the possible risks.
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- Жыл бұрын
@@NateBabaev I am suing. It wont get my eyes back. But in reality, most surgeons lie and manipulate for commercial gain. Its because there's no regulation. By in large they get away with near murder. btw, it would be helpful to not "recommend" this surgery as this is the main cause for people getting the surgery. People think they will get the same good outcome. But that only happens 60% of the time. Perhaps consider adding an advisory on the end of your video. I can help you with that if you need info/resources. We don't want any more suicides or ruined lives.
@sarahyy.yy_3
@sarahyy.yy_3 9 ай бұрын
​@@-1-2-1- why you considered simle as LASIK is also a option?
@janwoldstad
@janwoldstad 11 ай бұрын
SMILE is not good. It is a scam. If you really want to do laser, do latest LASIK wavefront.
@-1-2-1-
@-1-2-1- 8 ай бұрын
Wavefront lasik is the same surgery as standard lasik and carries the same risks. The only difference is an additional modification to the ablation profile/pattern that attempts to correct aberrations that are higher order than myiopia and (lower order) astigmatism. The damage and trauma and questionable healing is unchanged. So too is the expected loss of vision quality and quantity.
@asustufa1515
@asustufa1515 7 ай бұрын
@@-1-2-1- Do you live under this comment section? Every comment I have read you are bullshitting people, just because you are in minority and had unlucky doctor doesn't mean every surgeon is bad nor is there not a single success story. Stop scaring people, just share your experience and fly away
@anushkaahsan6941
@anushkaahsan6941 Жыл бұрын
Did the surgery hurt?
@NateBabaev
@NateBabaev Жыл бұрын
No, it didn’t.
@alexkenty6258
@alexkenty6258 4 ай бұрын
After how many days you can see clearly to near? I have some halo effect and blur when use laptop or phone
@funinfinity9721
@funinfinity9721 4 ай бұрын
I had undergone latest silk surgery and I got the glare and it's been 20 days now. How about your eyes is glares still there ?
@alexkenty6258
@alexkenty6258 4 ай бұрын
@@funinfinity9721, yeap glares still there, it’s about 20 days after surgery. What about you ?
@alexkenty6258
@alexkenty6258 4 ай бұрын
@@funinfinity9721also I have starbursts effect -_-
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