I Hate Clone Fragrances

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declan.smells

declan.smells

Күн бұрын

Since recording this video, my hair has gotten better and my skin has gotten worse.
In all honesty, this video is not meant as a personal attack on anyone who enjoys clones (including YOU). I recognize that their ease of availability is a good gateway into a hobby for people who could not otherwise afford it, and I think that is great. More than anything, I just want it to be an exploration into the negative aspects of clones which we largely ignore.
Also, buy Indie fragrances. If you want something that's both affordable AND high quality, AND made by people who would be extremely happy to have your business, check out your "local" indie house. There's a lot of great stuff out there to find if you just put in a little bit of effort.
Music (in order of appearance):
Ghostrifter - Purple Dream
FASSounds - Lofi Study
Against All Authority - All Fall Down
Bad Religion - Pity
Lofi_hour - Wish You Were Here
Dizzy Gillespie - Manteca Theme (off of "Afro," that album slaps)
my bad D&B demos
Lofi_hour - Empty Mind
#cologne #fragrance #fragrancereview #clonefragrances #perfume #perfumereview

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@cooldude1138
@cooldude1138 18 күн бұрын
Sure you can buy clones and scae some money and get a decent hands free microphone.
@Exzaotic
@Exzaotic 10 күн бұрын
Tell me more about how anti corporate you are wearing a “bad religion” patch . This guy is the kid in class who says “what about the homework teacher”
@jonathanmurphy8272
@jonathanmurphy8272 21 күн бұрын
Lol. That means designer and niche houses are stealing as well. Bond No.9, Mont Blanc, Creed, and others all have "borrowed" inspirations from each other and sold them as their own. That would make the designer and niche houses morally worse because they sell the copied ideas at a premium price, while the "clone" houses sell them affordably to everyone.
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 19 күн бұрын
They have been doing it from the beginning
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 18 күн бұрын
People never seem to care if a clone is expensive. It’s some classist bs. Never hear people complain about Creeds original santal but hear mfs complain about mont blanc explorer. Both are clones…..
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 17 күн бұрын
@@TheSinkagu good point
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely! However, this is not a video about that. I do think that an important difference lies in intent though; if one house creates a fragrance that's similar to another (whether it's on purpose or not), I think that that's far less offensive than a house that creates a fragrance that's made for the specific purpose of ripping off another, not only in how it smells, but in how it's packaged/marketed/etc. Taking inspiration from something is far different from directly and purposefully ripping something off.
@jaxexe9408
@jaxexe9408 17 күн бұрын
I agree with you to a certain extent, however, to me, there's a significant difference between a house that makes their originals plus a few clones here and there and a house that does nothing but clones. MB has a good amount of original frags, like Starwalker & Starwalker Ex and Individuel. BN9 and Creed definitely have a good amount of borrowed frags, but they've got plenty of original fragrances themselves. With how many fragrances there are out in the market right now, I do think that the ceiling for creativity is super high right now and to create something that doesn't smell similar to something that's out there is REALLY difficult. Companies that make products exclusively by stealing other's ideas (like clone houses) don't sit well with me though. I agree about the price point though, I really think that their "clone" frags should be significantly cheaper than their other stuff. I don't like designer houses in general, I think that they are incredibly greedy and the vast majority of their products have a 100+% markup just for the name.
@raydeemed
@raydeemed 20 күн бұрын
Recently it was discovered that dior pays 56$ for a bag and sells it 4000$, and remember even the guy who sold it at $56 to dior he also made a profit of like $20, so, the real cost maybe $15, this also applies to fragrances. The real cost of a frag can be $10 😂
@humildemarcelo
@humildemarcelo 7 күн бұрын
Of course. Luxury brands are scaming us all
@flyingthundergod3999
@flyingthundergod3999 21 күн бұрын
But lots of niche/ high end house copy/inspired by other fragrances too no?
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 19 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
There are a few examples of this, sure. But I think there's an important difference between a house seeing a fragrance and saying "let's do our own version of that!" (because that's how creation of literally any kind works), and a house that exists only to directly rip off specific fragrances, trying to snake their sales
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 17 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells What about when creed did it?
@Coloradical_
@Coloradical_ 9 күн бұрын
​@@Alritealritealritefor real. Creed and Montblanc have gone back and forth stealing frm each other w the purpose of making money off the others IP
@Rishabh_Sachdev
@Rishabh_Sachdev 20 күн бұрын
Totally understandable, however there’s some counters to this: 1. The price difference in not so little 2. The fragrance market is quite small. Introducing more users to cheap fragrances will introduce more repeat purchasers and hobbyists that will benefit the industry as a whole. 3. Like the piracy issue in music/movie industry, the creator/original brand gets more exposure; free word of mouth marketing at its best. 4. Your view points don’t hold weight to the third world countries where it’s a big hassle to buy the original. Users generally buy the copy.
@Starias5
@Starias5 21 күн бұрын
“Saved up a little bit more” …: when it’s $30-$60 vs $400
@DuSeun
@DuSeun 20 күн бұрын
If you think a $400 fragrance can really be made for $30 you are delusional. A $30 fragrance is always gonna smell like $30 quality.
@corkiguess
@corkiguess 20 күн бұрын
​@@DuSeun if you think your bottle of 300$ parfum is made with anything else except 4 - 15$ of raw ingredients and 280$ of brand image your are the delusional one.
@natkobratko3198
@natkobratko3198 19 күн бұрын
@@DuSeun no it will smell cheaper but dioesnt have to smell cheap
@keifyboi6913
@keifyboi6913 19 күн бұрын
​@DuSeun higher cost doesn't always equal higher quality nor does lower cost always equal lower quality. More often than not it is however there's many 'dupes' in the market that's better than these designer or niche houses.
@sebymania1991
@sebymania1991 19 күн бұрын
@@DuSeunlol if you experienced clone a lot you would have never say that. I have some clone fragrances that have me way more compliments than the OG. And sometimes they last way longer with great quality. Learn more.
@jhovainechen7577
@jhovainechen7577 21 күн бұрын
I get where you're coming from, but there's a thing thats called real life, and not everyone can afford designer or niche fragrances. Clone fragrances are for the everyday man who doesnt have disposable income to shell out on a single bottle of cologne
@AHK206
@AHK206 20 күн бұрын
Nah. If you’re serious about fragrance collecting and fragrances in general, You would save money to get the real thing. Like how im doing right now. I cant afford the real thing. But I would save money for several months just to get my desired fragrances. Its a million times more worth it than buying clones (for the most part at least). Granted, there are very few clones that I think are better than the orginial. For example, I think Dua oud wood clone is better and more worth it than TF oud wood. But for the most part, getting the original is more worth it in terms of quality and composition.
@ghostjason878
@ghostjason878 19 күн бұрын
@@AHK206 if u cant afford the real thing then u shouldnt be trying to save up to get it when u can get something that smells 90 percent similar and performs better its just retarded and youll go broke with that mentality
@Kakar786.
@Kakar786. 19 күн бұрын
@@AHK206u r really delusional if u think everyone can save thousands of dollars to buy niche fragrances
@silentsir2446
@silentsir2446 19 күн бұрын
​@@AHK206thats what I dont get. To me, clone collectors are like sneaker heads who claim to love sneakers, but only buy fakes and knock offs. Like, how serious can a person be who barely even invests in the hobby they claim to be so passionate about?
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq 17 күн бұрын
@@silentsir2446 Most of these people are clueless shopping addicts lol. They complain about niche being too expensive, yet they have hundreds of clones. You don't get to complain about the high cost of 1 bottle when you have 200 bottles that cost $40 each.
@bradd8841
@bradd8841 18 күн бұрын
Clones are a little out of hand. However, I suspect the large price increases from designer brands are pushing more people over in this direction.
@samholub3540
@samholub3540 8 күн бұрын
especially when you can save money in this economy.
@maddog11ful
@maddog11ful 21 күн бұрын
So because dyson makes blade-less fans does that mean if another blade-less fan comes on the market for cheap they’re stealing?? Not how it works there, it’s purely the market sorting itself out
@maddog11ful
@maddog11ful 21 күн бұрын
Even if that is how it works in this specific scenario, you can’t patent a smell, and no one is passing off work as their own. Most if not all of said fragrances are well known clones and that’s really how they get sold, being known as a copy. No one would be buying as much lattafa if they weren’t clearly promoting a copy
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
No. A more accurate comparison would be if a company made a bladeless fan that was nearly identical in size/shape, they called themselves "Byson," their logo looked similar to Dyson's, their packaging was clearly made to be comparable to the original, etc. If anyone tried that, they'd get the pants sued off of them pretty quickly
@maddog11ful
@maddog11ful 17 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells so I guess that means that dr topper, dr thunder, and any other soft drink that tastes similar to Doctor pepper and has Doctor in its name and rhymes with pepper it should be taken off market? The answer is still no because it happens all the time lol
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
@@maddog11ful Uh... I mean... Yes? Yeah, I still think that's shitty of them to do, if that's what you're asking? If not at least partly illegal. You're also ignoring the extremely public extent to which clone fragrances are doing it. It's one thing to be some random bottling company that makes knock-off sodas that sit on the shelves of random gas stations in one area of a country or continent. It's another thing entirely to be a Lattafa or Armaf and hold a not-insignificant portion of a market by doing nothing other than ripping off other peoples' work
@robertfreeman1673
@robertfreeman1673 14 күн бұрын
@@declan.smellsmove to china then if you don’t like it 😂
@victorashul
@victorashul 15 күн бұрын
Al Haramain revenue is 34m$ per year, compared to , for example, Guerlain which has a revenue of 300m$ per year... so you can't say that Al Haramain is a little perfume house, knowing that Guerlain is one of the top sellers worldwide
@TheRasmuga
@TheRasmuga 9 күн бұрын
Indie Companies might lose money but I could care less if LVMH or Estee Lauder lose money, that's the whole idea.
@Overunder
@Overunder 11 күн бұрын
If a bottle of coke cost 15$ you'd best bet I'm buying the home brand one for $1. If pricing wasn't horrid in the fragrance industry clone brands would not need to exist.
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker Сағат бұрын
Get a real job.
@AHK206
@AHK206 20 күн бұрын
I dont prefer clones too. I would rather save up and get the real thing. But I dont hate clones. I think they have a place in the fragrance world. Its good for normal people so they can smell good without spending a fortune on a bottle. But as a serious collector and fragrance enthusiast, I would rather save up and get the real thing as I can definitely tell the difference in quality and composition between clones and OGs.
@RDR1G
@RDR1G 21 күн бұрын
yeah you're not "anti-establishment" it's very clear you have an elitist point of view when it comes to this hobby
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
Tell me you didn't understand the point of the video without telling me you didn't understand the point of the video 🙄 If advocating for people to get paid for their work, or for people to put slightly more thought into their purchases makes me an elitist, then sure, guilty as charged
@kaorrif.1229
@kaorrif.1229 17 күн бұрын
Indeed, and it's probably because he is learning to make fragrances now. So now he's judging clone houses for selling "similar" fragrances and saying they're stealing. Man is a pick me for the cologne companies that overcharge the consumer.
@ehsanhaq155
@ehsanhaq155 16 күн бұрын
​@@kaorrif.1229 spot on.
@robertfreeman1673
@robertfreeman1673 14 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells 1:30 I have a stripe shirt similar to that one … which brand house was wrong for creating their version of the stripe shirt 😂?? We have similar couches but both were manufactured by different companies.. which one of us is wrong for purchasing the couch ??
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 13 күн бұрын
@@robertfreeman1673 Surely I don't have to explain to you the difference between two things being similar, and one actively trying to rip the other off, right? Like, surely you can't be so pathetically devoid of critical thinking skills that you actually think that those two are the same thing? Right? Like you can't actually be so stupid that you think you're making a point with that... right? Right??? Surely this is just a troll
@dylan3139
@dylan3139 21 күн бұрын
You’re just giving into consumerism and brand worship buying name brand stuff. You’re purely buying it for the name not the juice because it’s so easy to find dupes. Stolen or not the average person shouldn’t be wasting 200-400 bucks on the real thing when you can just buy a clone for $20…
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 19 күн бұрын
How is it purely Just the name if it's better?
@dylan3139
@dylan3139 19 күн бұрын
@@Alritealritealrite if it’s like 90% the same yet you save 200-300 bucks then I don’t think it’s justified to spend that money that’s just me though
@silentsir2446
@silentsir2446 19 күн бұрын
The original is almost always better anyway. In my experience clones have been flat and one-dimensional smelling compared to the original. Theres a noticeable drop off in quality that Im not ok with.
@dmr0495
@dmr0495 15 күн бұрын
@@silentsir2446 exactly, the drop off in quality ain't even funny, especially that disgusting dry down these clones have, that's why I laugh when people try to tell me clones are better, I've tried a good couple and the original is always better blended
@guillams
@guillams 22 сағат бұрын
​@@silentsir2446 very bad clones yoy have got!
@UnAuthorizedFragTherapy
@UnAuthorizedFragTherapy 20 күн бұрын
What is your take on Tom Ford Oud Wood, bring cloned by Thameen Carved Oud at higher price?
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
I think "cloned" and "at a higher price" is all you really need to know. I haven't smelled Carved Oud, but logically I think it's equally as likely that they cloned it, as it is that they just incidentally created something that smelled the same.
@UnAuthorizedFragTherapy
@UnAuthorizedFragTherapy 17 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells oh no, it wasn't accident. It came after Tom Ford Oud Wood. Bodecia De Victoria has so many clone/twist/inspired by other brand... But some of you are simply indenial about Niche/Designer "cloning" other brand especially if they are cloned by Niche and Designer Brand. In actual fact Lattafa (2014) Raghba wood intense, is not a clone instead was cloned by.. (2015) By The Fireplace Maison Margiela. Clones have always been there. Even some perfumer will replicate their own perfume when they change perfume house. Look it up. FragCom need honest reviewer, not someone who want to nurse their feeling or view.
@testtor2714
@testtor2714 9 күн бұрын
I hate every car brand other than Volvo because they all stole their safety belt. No-no.
@aaron4387
@aaron4387 10 күн бұрын
A lot of these fragrances are not 1:1 dupes. If these companies were more reasonable with the prices and quality of their products - Clones wouldn't exist.
@ivansotirov2457
@ivansotirov2457 10 күн бұрын
As a guy who overbought on clones, now I'd prefer if those monies went to original fragrances. *HOWEVER* - the outstanding clones, 95-99% to the OG for a 5th ( if not 1/6....) of the price taught me how much of a scam some of the "regular" fragrances are. You just gotta be smart about this.
@ilikeantea
@ilikeantea 21 күн бұрын
A smell DNA can't be stolen, imagine if you could patent that, the whole industry would be a dead end. At one point a lot of designer fragrances WERE THE CLONES of existing brands at the time. How can you patent something you cannot reproduce 100%, it smells different on people, the music comparison is not well given. Watched the whole video i can see that you care, but that passion you try to find has long gone left the industry. If you are not familiar with the "Ghost perfumer", have a look into it, it's about Creed and how they shafted a lot of perfumers. No honor in this industry.
@kaorrif.1229
@kaorrif.1229 17 күн бұрын
I've noticed he's not saying anything about Creed.
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker 4 күн бұрын
People who use the money argument for buying clones are hilarious. There are plenty of reasonably priced original fragrances on the market too.
@Lovesadako1978
@Lovesadako1978 7 күн бұрын
The big problem with all this is that the original houses themselves reformulate their fragrances a few months after putting them on sale. They basically tell you "hey, here, the original bottle, the original logo, the original price, but the liquid inside is not the original formula. Enjoy!" It really is not very different from a clone, not to mention that it is a clone disguised as an original perfume. Reformulations result in fragrances that smell different and perform differently than the original. You buy a Montblanc and what is in the bottle is not very different from a Lataffa. At least the latter sell it to you cheap.
@richuncle9689
@richuncle9689 Күн бұрын
You made a really good point here
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker Сағат бұрын
Clones get reformulated and watered down too. Just look at Rasasi Hawas and Afnan 9 PM.
@Scentsei_585
@Scentsei_585 10 күн бұрын
Its like that with all facets of creation there is imitation furniture, cookware, clothes, shoes, tech, shoot even cars. Brands determine the prices consumers spend money on the investment. At some point you make purchase decisions on your personal preferences. You ether want orignal authenticity or replica copy cat styles. The key thing in any purchase of consumerism is the ability to distinguish key qualities that resonate with you the consumer. It's not like large brands dont manufacture cheap quality products and over price them ridiculously to gain unfair high margins of profitability.
@eee-hi1kl
@eee-hi1kl 9 күн бұрын
If you can’t afford the price go buy the clone guys, If you are really obsessed with the orginal fragrance, you are going to buy it eventually, either you buy it’s clone first or not But when it comes to people’s knowledge about perfumers, your argument is quite surreal. Majority of people wants just to smell good. We have to remember that those people have different things to do everyday and fragrance is just a hobby for them and expecting them to follow a certain perfumer or to know a fragrance’s perfumer is not an appropriate reason to not buying clones. Those two things are not related strongly. Worth noting: nobody needs to know who Alberto Morillas, Quentin Bisch, Kurkdjian, Demachy are. They don’t do it for ordinary people to know their names, they do it for the art and for the money, and for the money you have to be a good perfumer, for sure. If your fragrances have lots of clones, that’s mostly a good thing considering that your frag performs well enough. I agree about a thing with you though, I am sick of top 10 clones lists, those clones do not even smell close, for most of the time and by most of the time I mean %95. Clones are just clones…
@NikitaKazantsev1C
@NikitaKazantsev1C 12 күн бұрын
I absolutely agree with you about quality of clones. I mean, maybe all basic ingredients are bought from the same "big 6" providers. But I guess some unic ingredients like orris, mahogany wood or ebony wood cannot be bought and replicated so easy (well, even cdnim trys to replicate pineapple with sweet lemon). But still) I live in Russia and we have absolutely enormous prices on fragrances right now. Like price for Amouage, TF of LV fragrance is literally about your salary per month (again - literally). And a lot of frags we can't even buy already: like Dior, Channel, Nichanne etc. So clones actually help us to try some fragrance, original of which we just can't buy or it has absolutely crazy price. And Montale/Mancera help us with it also very well (they have quite a good prices yet). For example: I really wanted to try Dior Fahrenheit but I just can't try it somewhere offline, buy a sample or just a full bottle (we already doesn't have Fahrenheit here). In this case I bought the one from FW and it smells well. Another point about clones is that at least Lattafa tries already to make unic smells. And if you like not only the smell but also the bottles of fragrances then, well, c'mon, you just have to have Ajwaa. I bought it only because of its bottle, and I don't care if it's clone or not (now I know that it's not which is good) but THIS tree-bottle is magnificent... C'mon, name at least one western fragrance with such great bottle - if we have it here I will go and buy it. And another example: Here we have prices for fragrances from FW Abraaj line (clones of Amouage frags) around $12-15. For real Amouages it's about $500-600 (and it's not a joke or smth - these are literally real prices right now here *). Well, you know, in this case - NO, just NO, thanks... * And yes, it's a regular salary per montg here.
@vzeams
@vzeams 6 күн бұрын
i like how much effort u put it gang
@saaaaaaaint
@saaaaaaaint 16 күн бұрын
saying this while using a neumann clone is quite funny
@bensonj.7924
@bensonj.7924 19 күн бұрын
I learned a lot from this video. I understand your view point but I don’t have the money to spend $100+ on multiple bottles of cologne. But I can do 4 clones for under $200. I actually agree with what you’re saying but it comes down to the value at the end of the day
@cralcanten3024
@cralcanten3024 12 күн бұрын
I don't know why all the hate you get but your opinion is reasonable.
@polanialmoni6274
@polanialmoni6274 3 күн бұрын
Do u think black panther is the best clone of tygar?
@Zepster77
@Zepster77 7 күн бұрын
Cracking up over all the needless hate this vid is getting. I love the info and the way it’s being delivered. Someone mentioned the mic(?) he is using; how ludicrous is that? I mean, come on…really? And I’ll go ahead & bite the bullet & mention the elephant in the room: most clones suck!! They’re often heavy-handed, or have a clearly noticeable factor of cheapness in their scent. Who knows wtf is really in them as well. Sorry not sorry, but I trust a legendary designer house like Dior a HELLUVA lot more than any clone or mass producer UAE manufacturer when it comes to putting something on my skin. The most noticeable physical reaction I ever had to a fragrance was from a Lattafa (Sheik Shuyuke Final Edition) - which did smell good btw! And yes I have a couple of Afnans I love from their Supremacy line. So I am not against clones, I just think most of them are crap!
@MascheraTheFallen
@MascheraTheFallen 4 күн бұрын
To quote a post from a friend, “The worst part is people calling clones ‘middle eastern perfumery.’ There’s a rich history of middle eastern fragrances going back thousands of years, and a shitty $20 Tom Ford dupe ain’t a part of it.”
@Vincent_411
@Vincent_411 21 сағат бұрын
I love the way you edit your videos! Keep up the good work! You have a bright future ahead! Love from Belgium
@hamzaHrv
@hamzaHrv 20 күн бұрын
I see it as buying fake shoes, you payed a fraction of the price that can be perceived by many to be the real thing, but you will always know it isn't. If I can't afford something, I don't buy a copy of it to fulfill a need that I didn't deserve. Everybody can have a different perspective, and I get the ones that buy clones, but it just doesn't feel good to wear for me
@stanleyscott7608
@stanleyscott7608 20 күн бұрын
Shut up
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 18 күн бұрын
What about these designers and niches companies that make clones? Would you feel weird wearing a copy that got $250+? I mean a lot people see no issue with Creed Original Santal or Prada Luna Rossa Carbon? No because these clones are Expensive. People only have an issue when a copy is cheap.
@JohnCorbettMusic
@JohnCorbettMusic 6 күн бұрын
@@TheSinkagu I was at the Vilhelm Parfumerie counter in Liberty London not so long ago, the assistant excitedly sprayed a fragrance on a strip citing "this is one of our best sellers!". I took one sniff and looked to the right where the Creed counter stood and said "this smells an awful lot like your neighbour's best seller...". She gave a sheepish smile and I walked off.
@talkingheadzzz2449
@talkingheadzzz2449 6 күн бұрын
I am with you 100% man!!! -Clones... been there, done that. I have 130+ bottles, ALL original ones, I got rid of the several clones I tried. -I would never wear a Tom Ford or Prada fake jacket, or a fake Movado watch. That would be distasteful, pretentious, and just lame and embarrassing to me. No clones for me, thank you! I am far from rich, but I like the real thing, I deserve the real thing. If I can't afford it, I move on. Imagine meeting someone for the first time who ask you about what you are wearing and you are wearing a clone. uuuuh... no good. The creative artistic work done by the original creators also deserves respect. And it is just better quality too. Never mind the haters. You are right.
@shelosalinas
@shelosalinas 2 күн бұрын
I mean it makes sense to a certain degree. Companies make an investment to hire a perfumer, research and develop something new, but at this point a clone is not going to hurt something like Dior, or Chanel. Now if there was a arab clone for something that is from a small company, originally like $20 I would be mad
@guillams
@guillams 22 сағат бұрын
People spend their money as they like!
@jlaudio8544
@jlaudio8544 21 күн бұрын
also some of the houses mentioned do use givaudan ingredients, especially montagne
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, I've got Givaudan ingredients too, they sell some of them. There are also some that they don't sell. Like I said in the video, if a cheaper alternative exists, the clone houses are going to use that over the original
@Corny-White
@Corny-White 3 күн бұрын
The only thing I dislike about this video is your Harry Potter glasses. Otherwise, you're a wizard Declan.
@BlackfireGG
@BlackfireGG 21 күн бұрын
I get your point. But perfumes are one of the products with the highest gross margins of all consumable items. Just look at the price of fragrances from brands like Tom Ford. They are not only expensive but they keep bumping up the already high prices again and again up to ridiculous amounts. Besides that I think many people couldn't care less if some High Fashion Brands like Tom Ford or YSL "loose out" on some money because people just buy the clones instead. The consumer doesn't owe these brands anything.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
That's kind of the point that I was getting at in the last section of the video, I very much agree with you (i have a HUGE dislike for Tom Ford especially). But again, even if my money goes mostly to a billionaire, but at least in small part to the original creator, I'd rather that than have my money go to people who are trying to purposefully hide themselves (and their finances) from the public eyehug
@AndreasSparta
@AndreasSparta 4 күн бұрын
Is that microphone new lattafa clone tom ford leather oud?
@laffsoap8063
@laffsoap8063 14 күн бұрын
What I do respect about the clones is that they can get so close to the real thing, but cost like 10 times less, and that can justify your purchase. However, if the clone is cloning a designer scent, at let's say half the price, and being 80-90% accurate, with the performance being a bit weaker, then you could argue that you should invest into a real thing. Also, in some instances, clone fragrance can outperform the actual fragrance, so of course people are going to support clone houses.
@dylan3139
@dylan3139 21 күн бұрын
I like them because I don’t have the money for the real deal ones lol
@bjdela
@bjdela Күн бұрын
You make a lot of good points. And I can tell you've put a lot of effort. I also respect the truly original frag community content. But I disagree on most of these points. However I have subscribed.
@NazgulfromLOTR
@NazgulfromLOTR 10 күн бұрын
I started off with clones because i didn't have the budget or i didn't allow myself, financially, to spend on more expensive perfumes. I said this just so you know where im coming from. I will say this, if all i cared about is purely scent, i'd be more then satisfied with the clones. Infact, the LATTAFA fragrances i have (not all of them are obvious clones) are in the top of my prefered fragrances out of my collection and i display this fact on fragrantica without shame. I have 15 dollar LATTAFA's that i prefer to 200 dollar niche, and they perform better! Having said that, i moved away from clones simply because i want to own the originals. It is not out of boasting or flexing, infact, if someone asks me what fragrance im wearing i usually lie about it because in today's economy and in the country i live in i'd be embarrased to admit in owning fragrances that cost as much as a month's rent. I don't have that kind of money anyway so i'd be trying to paint a picture that is simply not true. No man should pretend to have money he doesn't or to live a lifestyle that is a farce. Still, i chose to gravitate towards the originals because i respect and appreciate the product even more. Thats not to say i don't appreciate my clones, see my first point. I take care of the bottles and cherish them with the same attention as my more expensive stuff. As a person who wasn't spoiled and didn't have money for hobbies or money to throw away, you learn to appreciate and cherish everything.
@Imae08I
@Imae08I 20 күн бұрын
I see it like this: McDonalds doesnt own HAMBURGERS or the components that make them (lettuce, cheese, etc) thats why we choose where to buy that combination of ingredients called "burgers"... As FLAVORS, how can someone own a SMELL? or the combination of lavender, bergamot, vanilla for example?? give me a break... thats why I find morally correct that we choose where to buy that combination of ingredients called "perfume" Let the chef cook, and buy what you like. Let the best brand win your money according what youre willing to spend, thats fair in my book. (LOL I just imagine germans saying "we own beer"... WW3 💀)
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
I've said this to another commenter, but I'll say it again here: your example is not the same. A better equivalency would be if McDonalds made hamburgers, and then another company came along, called themselves "DacMonalds," had a Golden Arches-like logo, sold "Double Quarter Poundies," and just generally told everyone they were the same as McDonalds and took a portion of their market share. That company would not exist for very long
@TheRasmuga
@TheRasmuga 9 күн бұрын
@@declan.smellsdoes Armaf or Lattafa (except Alhambra) really have that much similarity Designwise? I think you're thinking more about Fragrance World and Maison Alhambra.
@tpc1416
@tpc1416 4 күн бұрын
Should've stuck with the "choose indie" narrative and kept it at that as these controversial videos aren't the way to go if you want to grow your channel. If you focused on that then the video would've been much better. Fragrance industry is stupidly corrupt and the clones are nowhere near being some of the worst things in the industry. They don't take credit for creating the fragrance as everyone knows that it's a clone. Often they're titled as "inspired by x". If the clone can smell almost just the same, have just as good and sometimes even better performance, then there's no reason the OG's should cost 10x as much. Anyways, good luck on this channel and your perfuming journey. Take this advice and focus on the actual problems in the industry and your channel will grow too. I left a like on your video as support and hope to see this channel grow.
@BonitoFlakes24
@BonitoFlakes24 13 күн бұрын
I don’t like clones either but I see the space for them in the market and these higher end clones available now are actually made by hired perfumers as well not just decided and mixed by a machine.
@thawkereynolds
@thawkereynolds 13 күн бұрын
To be 100% honest, I do not love the fact that I own some clones. But let me be 1000% clear it’s not because in any way shape or form I feel bad that I’m taking money out of one of these billion dollar or at least hundreds of million dollars Fragrant houses. How many times have you purchased a cologne really liked it then once you’re done with that bottle you purchased another of the same bottle only to find it’s not the same quality? So we’re OK with them doing that but we should have a problem with cloning it? The way I see there’s two ways to solve the problem number one sell your product cheaper, if you sell it for the same price as a clone would cost you’re not gonna have to worry about cloning it, and number two your clones. What if Creed had their own clone of Creed Aventus? you let it be known that you are using lesser quality but at a significant savings
@paulmorin1286
@paulmorin1286 2 күн бұрын
you are so original and exceptionnal.......................................
@TheAlijator
@TheAlijator 14 күн бұрын
Idk what made you do a video like this, but it seems a bit misguided...perhaps even with the intent of rage-baiting. The idea that the cloning houses, which are mostly UAE based, are the only ones who clone is a bit silly. Both Mancera Cedrat Boise and Montblanc Explorer smell like Aventus, but those houses get a free pass and are branded "Aventus-inspired" when compared to Armaf's stuff. Green Irish Tweed and Cool Water smell similar, but you won't hear people cry about the morality of copying someone else's work there, unless it's the arabic houses who do it at a more competitive pricing, while also creating decent products. Depending on where you live, and a whole lot of people don't live in developed western countries, spending 100, 200 or more $$ on a perfume might not be that viable, so getting something that has a decent scent and performance for relatively cheap is the only option.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 13 күн бұрын
Idk what made you do a comment like this, but it seems a bit misguided... perhaps because it's a bot comment? Comments like this make be believe that people have never smelled the fragrances they're talking about. Have you ever smelled Cedrat Boise or Montblanc Explorer? I've owned all three at one point or another, and they smell nothing alike. Especially Cedrat Boise, I will never understand how people think that they smell alike. They might be built similarly, but smelling them side-by-side, you would never confuse the two. There's a difference between two things being similar, and one thing purposefully ripping off the choices of another. Also, I totally understand if people can't afford it, as I literally say this in my video.
@TheAlijator
@TheAlijator 13 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells Yes, I did, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. None of them are 100% similar to Aventus (and even the "clones" add their own spin to a fragrance DNA), but both of them and many more designer and niche frags were inspired by Aventus...and those get a free pass, but the "clones" are bad, because they don't rip you off as much. Any CDNIM blows Montblanc out of the water and at a much more affordable price.
@gabrielgallawa8205
@gabrielgallawa8205 5 күн бұрын
Your own channel name is a clone of an OG fragrance reviewer Katie Puckrik Smells.
@Tympro-oi6iq
@Tympro-oi6iq 8 күн бұрын
Yea I agree especially with the first point. I had one clone fragrance. I sold it after a few days even tho I liked it and it was around 1/5 of the price of the original. I just felt bad with myself knowing that I use the clone
@native7876
@native7876 4 күн бұрын
your looking in the wrong place I just saw Vibrato for 180 in stock 😂
@jaime38amor
@jaime38amor 11 күн бұрын
Clones are “inspired” and “copied” versions of the originals but in my opinion clones never have to be carbon copied exact the same. They can be, many consumers would love them but not a must criteria. At least for me, I never go out each time and make sure meticulously the clones I’m buying or have bought are and must be exactly the same. 90% of the time, I do not care but I do care the way as they smell off of my skin, the performance and this is something you never mentioned about, “feelings” the emotions when you wear them. That goes to the whole world of fragrances. So when I wear the colones and make me feel so good then I don’t care the rest. Sure it’s a good reference to have sometimes what they are cloning to or inspired by. And also many of them smell as equally as good or better than the originals as many honest reviewers have been testifying. If you still want to spend $200 and more for the originals just so you feel the just is served knowing they are the “original” creators then no one would scream at your face. And remind you, some of those original fragrances might have been also getting at least “inspired” by other original brands and competitors especially when it comes to those “greedy” cosmetic and fragrance corporations. Those noses, the artists are just getting paid huge bucks by those multi-billion dollar companies what to creat and they are not necessarily creating by their own creative imaginations. They do have that “menu” and “instructions” written by those corporations to follow. Once those noses become very popular and earn huge recognitions from the world, they will sometime create their own labels like Francis Kurkdijan and he puts his own price tag on them which are not 2 digits but 3. At the end of the day, whether you are tired of clones or those flankers after flankers, they are in the same existence to make more money off of all of us fragrance enthusiasts or addicts one way or the other and you are also sort of justifying to buy some of clones of certain ones then we all are in the at least similar perimeter and neighbourhood of getting some scented water or “toilet water” to make ourselves smell and feel good regardless of where they are from and who made them. I like both the originals and clones but what I do deteste is the price tags they putting on particularly with designers fragrances and not only so high considered the production costs are so low, but they still keep raising the prices every year for the same or some cases worse because they reformulate them and dilute them for more profits!! And those people who are involved to create a fragrance you were talking about in the beginning of the video, most of them are also employees of those greedy companies and they just do what they were told to do just like most of us here. So for me, betraying or cheating on the originals, I don’t feel bad one bit. If it’s an independent artist and going through a lot of work and effort then that’s a complete different story. Of course most people in the fragrance community would understand his/her hard work and unique artistry.
@osmathgreenle8986
@osmathgreenle8986 8 күн бұрын
I hate Bond No9, Amouage, perfumers who recreate their fragrance for another fragrance house, "reverse engineering" and those who create with a twist, mancera, montale, but the compliments and price tags that goes along with those clones is great for most. Fact maybe yes no???: Firmenich - One of the largest fragrance and flavor companies in the world, Firmenich has extensive capabilities in fragrance creation and may analyze popular scents for inspiration in their formulations. International Flavors & Fragrances (IFF) - A global leader in the fragrance and flavor industry, IFF is involved in the creation of new fragrances, which can involve reverse engineering as part of their process. Symrise - Another significant player in the fragrance industry, Symrise may reverse engineer popular fragrances as part of their innovation and development processes. Anyway, hope your delivery is recieved in its entirety and not subjected to subjectivity.
@Economist999
@Economist999 2 күн бұрын
Good job :) very likable channel
@peteraa4418
@peteraa4418 20 күн бұрын
Great op-ed. Even if I dont fully agree with some of your arguments ;-) Looking forward to your next video.
@EverydayFragranceYT
@EverydayFragranceYT 4 күн бұрын
Well said, couldn’t agree more.
@EvgeniIvanov-pi1km
@EvgeniIvanov-pi1km 14 күн бұрын
You forgot to tell all the truth. Many of designer fragrances are inspired by another fragrances, that's some kind of clone...
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 13 күн бұрын
You forgot to do all the critical thinking. "Inspired by" does not equal "clone."
@dieterdevos8907
@dieterdevos8907 23 сағат бұрын
Tell the people working in sweatshops for the big brands about morality, and you're getting 'sick of it'????
@dieterdevos8907
@dieterdevos8907 23 сағат бұрын
You like Jolene by the White Stripes??? Come on...
@dmr0495
@dmr0495 15 күн бұрын
Fragrance is expensive so "clones" are a good market, you can go into zara and get some really good inspired by fragrances but there are differences and trade offs in quality and the dry down dosent lie when it comes to these clones because that dry down is disgusting in my experience For me the original is always better blended, smelling, preforming, and the dry down superior, alot of these clones can smell too sharp and too fake smelling, with inferior dry down
@yamafanboy
@yamafanboy 20 күн бұрын
Sorry but I have to go on a bit of a rant: With regard to your morality argument yes it's morally/ethically dubious to copy and then receive credit for someone else's work but there's some nuance that you haven't factored into your argument. 1) Hypothetically speaking If I will never be able to afford a $500 scent and some clone house duplicates that scent DNA and sells it for $50 and I buy that product is the clone house REALLY robbing the original creator of revenue when the chances of me ever buying the original are precisely zero? 2) Real example this time... I tested Dior Sauvage elixir and didn't personally like it then I tested Lattafa Asad and loved it. Am I not allowed to purchase the fragrance that I actually prefer? Same goes for YSL's Y EDP I ACTUALLY prefer Lattafa's final edition. Also have you seen the bottle presentation of the new releases from Lattafa? I can't speak for all clone fragrances but I have become a lattafa fan because they simply produce quality fragrances... period. The price is just a happy coincidence. I haven't bought a PDM layton clone as yet but I dislike the original scent and would be happy to find a "reimagined" version that I can enjoy of that DNA as well. I actually layer Layton with Burberry hero when I wear it because of how much I dislike the layton original DNA. This is why clone houses have gotten popular. It's not because they are stealing intellectual property. It's because they are producing products that fill a genuine gap that exists in the market with regard to scent DNA diversity as well as excellent note selection and CRITICALLY the performance in the drydown. A little known fact about many (if not most) overhyped designer fragrances (except versace dylan blue) is that they $h!t the bed in the drydown and I absolutely hate that. Versace eros, Stronger with you absolutely, Ultramale, Bleu de Chanel, and several other popular designer scent's can't hold a candle to most of the Lattafa scents I own in terms of performance. Montale fragrances are the only original perfumes that are consistently worth your money in terms of performance IMHO.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
1) Hypothetically speaking, you're right (I talk about this specific thing at the end of the video with my Vibrato clone). However, this hypothetical falls apart when you look at more realistic pricing. Even as a Canadian who has to pay 1.3x any $USD price, I've never come close to paying $500 for any fragrance - come to think of it, I don't think I've even crossed the halfway mark of that. The difference between $50 and $500 is massive; the difference between $50 and a more realistic $100-$250 is significantly less. Everybody's value line is different, but I think it's too bad that people prefer the instant gratification of buying a cheaper, worse replacement immediately from shady sources, than saving an extra couple months to get the actual thing that they want. I think that my example of Vibrato is at the higher end of the price spectrum - is there a very high likelihood that I'll ever be able to afford Vibrato? No. Is there any likelihood at all? Yes, absolutely. If you don't like something enough to purchase it, but buy a clone of it anyways, I'd ask you why you're spending your money to buy the clone in the first place. 2) I actually own Khamrah for this exact reason, and I say, in the video, the words, "you might even like the clone better." However, I find the insistence that they are "quality" fragrances disingenuous. With regards to presentation, I think a lot of these clone bottles are garish and clearly made of low-quality materials. They might look cool from afar, but once you see them up close or hold them, they feel hollow and cheap. With Khamrah specifically, the bottle feels like a child's toy next to the real thing. I feel the same way about the juice inside, and this has been my experience with every clone I've ever purchased. And again, like I said in the video, if you prefer the clone - that's totally fine. My problem is less with the discrepancy in quality, and more with people who pretend that they are equal, or content creators who insist that they are equal in order to net themselves more views. They aren't the same. They just aren't. 3) Again, with your idea for a Layton clone, if you dislike Layton, then... why buy a clone of it? Why try to find a clone of it that does something different? Why not just... look for a different fragrance? There's like a million of them, why continue to try to fit a square peg into a round hole? 4) This "little-known fact" is a personal experience and not factual in any way. Even if it was, I'd rather have a fragrance with depth and quality that lasts for 8 hours than a fragrance that gives a cheap, hollow, and linear wearing experience, but lasts for 12 hours.
@yamafanboy
@yamafanboy 16 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells I see significant validity to all of your points and I'm happy to grant you credit for them. Especially the 3rd one about giving up on the Layton DNA if I don't like it instead of hoping to find a clone with a twist that I like. In my defense I have to admit that owning multiple fragrances provides a secondary "dopamine hit" apart from just smelling nice... in terms of the fact that I enjoy being able to relate directly to a lot of the content created by the youtube fragrance community by owning some of the more popular fragrances. Being able to remain "in the game" and have real world hands on experience/ relevant opinions about the most popular fragrances matters to me just as much as smelling great does. (Admittedly childish but I'm just being honest.) This is fundamentally why I haven't given away my bottle of Layton and also why I have attempted to "clone it" myself by layering it with another scent when I wear it. The only point I'd debate you on is point 4). Interestingly enough the ONLY reason I even started viewing youtube content created by the fragrance community is BECAUSE I got fedup of buying designer fragrances that smell amazing in the opening (on a test strip) then eventually being disappointed 30 minutes after when the drydown fell flat on its face. This has been my personal experience with too many designer fragrances to list without this becoming an essay. I extend my gratitude to the youtube fragrance community because I never even knew niche houses even existed prior to youtube fragrance content and just about every niche fragrance I have either sampled or bought outright since that discovery does not exhibit the typical lackluster drydown that I experience with designer fragrances. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that the price of fragrances from clone houses are not an attractive factor to me but at the same time, I have not enjoyed the performance of any Armaf or Al Harmain scents I purchased and I will be reluctant to buy their products in future. Lattafa is an entirely difference story in my personal experience. It's a clone house that gives me very similar drydown performance to what I have come to expect from niche fragrances and that was the only thing I sought after when I started to pay more for niche fragrances in the first place. The fact that I can have that experience for less money is a no-brainer. So while I agree with you on the quality of the ingredients as it relates to niche fragrances, at the same time I would not agree that the same logic applies to most designer fragrances... therefore I would blind-buy a lattafa fragrance over any designer scent 9 times out of 10. (I apologize for the length of these rants i'm done though I promise I have no further opinion on the subject)
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 19 күн бұрын
Kudos, for voicing an opinion that goes against the mob 🍻
@khairt1731
@khairt1731 3 күн бұрын
Very gopd video. Informative.
@MascheraTheFallen
@MascheraTheFallen 4 күн бұрын
Why’d you trigger so many TikTok fragrance kids with this video? 😅
@ski.3108
@ski.3108 21 күн бұрын
Amazing high qaulity video! Cannot believe this does not have more views. I could not agree more, keep up the good work.
@jos3roth475
@jos3roth475 16 күн бұрын
Thank you bro. Many people who also hate copycats who undercut originals (ie clones) are afraid to speak up about it. You see why in your comments lol! Clone lovers are like a mob lol. But I agree with you whole heartedly man.
@humildemarcelo
@humildemarcelo 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, Dior gonna notice you soon, son
@sandernista6499
@sandernista6499 20 күн бұрын
I'd rather wear cdnim than that weak sauce rip off creed aventus. I'd spend money on a pdm fragrance, but stuff like creed and roja elysium are so weak. Can't justify wasting the money
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
I felt the same way until I smelled Aventus next to my bottle of CDNIM:LEP. I immediately sold my bottle of CDNIM and saved up to buy Aventus. Clones don't hold a candle to the real deal. Having an amazing fragrance that lasts for 6 hours is, in my opinion, far better than having a far worse fragrance that lasts for 12
@sandernista6499
@sandernista6499 16 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells aventus doesn't last 6 hours...
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 13 күн бұрын
@@sandernista6499 I've smelled my bottle of Aventus on me after 10+ hours...
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker 4 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells People who claim CDNIM smells the same as Aventus are either trying to justify them being broke, are full of shit or haven't even smelled Aventus. I fell into the influencer trap myself of buying CDNIM before smelling Aventus, but to me it always smelled like lemon pledge and burnt rubber. Then I got the chance to smell Aventus and that crap Armaf clone doesn't even come close to the sophistication and high quality of Creed's masterful fragrance. And CDNIM isn't even the best Aventus clone on the market...
@asefragrance
@asefragrance 10 күн бұрын
A hot take. Good video
@bendavid2320
@bendavid2320 4 күн бұрын
I don’t like most clones either out of the 20 or so I own I like about 4.
@humildemarcelo
@humildemarcelo 7 күн бұрын
Aww poor luxury brands :C don't clone fragrance you guys! T.T
@ilmizarnanda
@ilmizarnanda 2 күн бұрын
I disagree with u but i understand ur point of view. Original is great,if we talk about respecting the creator.parfume industry itself is problem.each new reformulation fragrance getting weaker and weaker but the company still put their price high and even higher.that's definitely rip off to customer and not fair. Yes,some clone are better in performance doesn't mean they have better ingredient like the real one.and,even in the real one they still wore syntetic ingredient.buyer value different aspect.u perhaps more appreciate the orignality regardless the peformance,price and etc. Most buyer,normie like me just want smell good with good price.
@pieceofevil84
@pieceofevil84 16 күн бұрын
Commenting to boost your stats - really good content, keep it up brother
@AMGTT
@AMGTT 9 күн бұрын
I can’t see myself buying a clone it’s no point just get the real thing and be happy. These clone junkies will buy million clones and it’s still won’t smell better than the real thing. Like buying a fake Rolex being delusional thinking it’s better than the real thing. Just pathetic if you feel the original is to expensive don’t complain just save up. You will be even more happy. But buying a collection of clones is cringe
@Wesujin
@Wesujin 4 күн бұрын
When you're shooting a KZfaq video with a jank mic, sitting on a twin bed with your grandma's hand-me-down sheets, designer and niche fragrances are the last thing you should be thinking about spending your money on... Lvl up your life before you blow your paycheck on perfumes my man.
@miniroseyo
@miniroseyo 18 күн бұрын
thank you for making this video, encapsulated how i feel perfectly
@fragrance_dude
@fragrance_dude 19 күн бұрын
people just want to smell good
@Tangentbordsblues
@Tangentbordsblues 17 күн бұрын
Clone fragrances are extremely tacky
@jos3roth475
@jos3roth475 16 күн бұрын
Very lol. I wonder how many people lie when someone asks what they have on.
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker Сағат бұрын
@@jos3roth475 Me too. I wonder if they'd say they're wearing Creed Aventus when in reality they're wearing CDNIM or Afnan Supremacy Silver.
@miniroseyo
@miniroseyo 18 күн бұрын
love the poorfrogs coping in the comments
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 17 күн бұрын
@@miniroseyo the only industry Ive been interested in is fragrance. But I think the hate of “clones” is mostly from classist weirdos. When I had friends complain to me that their clothes or shoes were fake. As someone who didn’t care for that industry, genuinely could not tell. I told them why does it matter, I went this whole time thinking they were real. But theres like 1% of weirdos who seems to genuinely care if what someone’s is wearing is fake or real.
@brett.caldas-lima
@brett.caldas-lima 8 күн бұрын
Hidden gem of a channel. Watched almost of your videos by now and will keep watching, great and entertaining content! Thank you.
@faiz8569
@faiz8569 9 күн бұрын
Imagine being soo high up big brands posterior’s that all you can smell is the aroma of their excrements
@thulanidhlamini1347
@thulanidhlamini1347 21 күн бұрын
lf you real know a lot about perfumery as you claim here , then you will know that a lots of designers fragrances are clones or copy of each other too . lt is neither wrong if say ; ZARA creates an inhouse clone of a designer fragrance. A lot of you just dislike them because they come from UAE and are too affordable.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
No, I'd also say it's wrong when Zara creates clones of other fragrances. One important difference is that Zara doesn't actively market their stuff as clones, and that 95% of the people walking into Zara won't know the original anyways - whereas I'd wager the vast majority of people purchasing clones know very well what they're buying
@eriksonnarvaez6975
@eriksonnarvaez6975 21 күн бұрын
Awesome video 👌🏻
@MCWon212
@MCWon212 16 күн бұрын
Go to the grocery store and you will see a Generic version of many items. Cinnamon Toast Crunch vs Cinnamon Toast Brunch. The generic brand is a replica of the OG. Not an inspiration. Nobody is forcing you to buy the clone. Food, clothes, shoes, materials. Damn near everything has a cheaper alternative. And somehow, the companies are still thriving. And when they are not, I'm not sure the that it is due to the existing of those replicas. I've spent a good amount of money on the real deals. And a lot of money on the clones. Many of the clones I've purchased influenced me to buy the real deal.
@element7448
@element7448 19 күн бұрын
Few misses, but also an important message about buying stuff you dont need. Clones of fragrances you have never smelled just because u got a good deal
@marvinleach3059
@marvinleach3059 19 күн бұрын
Noticed you're only tslking about middle-eastern. Why not seem unbiased and include western designers that clone or creste inspired by Eg. Davidoff Cool Water Mont Blanc Explorer Ferrari Bright Neroli... the list goes on. Or how about Niche that clearly take the example from designer or evem other Niche. Eg. Creed Original Santal vs Mont Blanc Individuel or Oud for Greatness vs PdM Haltane. Or evem blatant clone companies that do the same and just add a twist, Eg. Dua, Parfums Vintage or Alexandria. No negative comments on this, bit the middle eastern get all the attack right? Riiiiiiiigggggghhhhttttt. . . . By the way, I am not speaking about the clones that copy the bottle design and similar names. That is overdoing it. I'm talking about clones like, Raghba Wood Intense smelling like By The Fireplace, CDNIM smelling like Aventus, or Ferrari Bright Neroli smelling like Neroli Portofino
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
You kind of answered your own question. This is a video about clone houses specifically. If you want to make a video about those other ones you mentioned, I'd love to see it - but this is not that. I've said this in other replies, but I'll say it again here. With regards to non-clone houses "copying" other fragrances, the difference is in intent. A house seeing a successful fragrance and saying "Let's do our version of that!" is different than a house tailoring all of its releases with the explicit purpose of ripping someone else off. The focus on Middle Eastern brands is for two reasons; firstly, I focused on Lattafa and Armaf specifically because they are the biggest ones. It's impossible to tell financially, but in terms of visibility, I'd have to imagine they've surpassed most niche houses and are rivalling some of the designer houses. I guarantee that there are more videos about those brands than there are, say, Amouroud or Cartier. Secondly, it turned out that pretty much all clone houses were Middle Eastern. I don't know if you watched the whole video (it doesn't seem like you did), but I mention Dua and Alexandria by name specifically (Parfums Vintage didn't even cross my mind, I apologize). It's funny too that you mention these houses in particular, because after doing cursory research for this video, it appears that even those two houses are "US-based," in that they "have an office" in the US, despite being otherwise Middle East-owned and operated. This is not a bias against anyone in particular, just kind of what wound up being fact.
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 17 күн бұрын
@@marvinleach3059 Coolwater and Green Irish Tweed have the same Perfumer
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker 4 күн бұрын
Cool Water was made by Pierre Bourdon, the same perfumer who did Green irish Tweed. MB Explorer has Aventus DNA, but doesn't smell the same at all.
@Polyfusia
@Polyfusia 18 күн бұрын
Huge L. Most of my collection is made up of real niche and designer fragrances. I focused on the hobby because I wasn't focused on a lot of other things. Most normal people can't afford these fragrances. They are outlandishly expensive. They live in a society that is classist and the middle class has been destroyed by greed. The price of housing and food is extortionate. Everyone is miserable and unwell and the message is "figure it out". People should feel perfectly fine buying clones of obscenely overpriced fragrances or any other product. Life is short. You start off talking about morality. You know what's immoral? 8 men have the same wealth as 3.6 billion people combined. There is absolutely zero reason anyone should feel bad buying a clone. Not one iota of guilt. Niche companies are extremely profitable. Clones don't have the same quality of ingredients and they aren't exactly the same. I come from the world of fine single malt whisky so I like to get the best product, but I don't lecture people about morality because they buy clones when they can't afford to live. It's such an out of touch, corporate ass-kissing snob move. Keep an eye on the dislike counter. It's going to grow. You've already been ratio'd.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
Seems like you completely missed the point of the video. I'm trying to figure out something to argue with in this paragraph you've left, but it's so incomprehensible and it seems like you're mostly just... bragging about being rich on the internet? You're both agreeing with what I'm saying and arguing against it, making points of your own and then arguing against those too..? What a mess. At no point in this video (which I'm assuming you didn't watch) do I ever talk down on the people who buy clones, or say that they should feel bad about it - in fact, I say in the video that I understand why people buy clones, that I have clones too, and that clones will always have their time and place. I'm merely pointing out that clone houses are not what they appear to be, and am asking people to think about what they're buying before giving these houses their money. That's it. Coming to a video where someone is talking and then crying in the comment section that they are "lecturing" people is extremely braindead. Like... that's the point of the video. If you don't like videos where someone is talking, then I think this might not be the website or hobby for you. It seems like you have a lot of rage, and not many braincells, so please, I beg of you, graduate from middle school before watching my videos again. Thanks!
@Cellynoseitall
@Cellynoseitall 10 күн бұрын
🫡👌🏼
@andrewk9241
@andrewk9241 4 күн бұрын
this video is 100% opinion with not many legit facts behind it. Also bruh get an adult bedroom, grow up.
@paulmorin1286
@paulmorin1286 2 күн бұрын
buy all the clive christian fragrances and smile and say ,im not like the mass who buy cheap clones...go and visit justin copeland , another puffed ego......
@JMiliam
@JMiliam 15 күн бұрын
The entire argument of "stealing" falls apart when you consider perfumers don't own their creations nor do they make royalties from it. I'm all about crediting your perfumers and paying them more, but the fact of the matter is that these recipes and formulations are owned by mega corporations. I couldn't possibly feel poorly about displaying forged Basqiat reprints, and I think that is analogous to perfumery. By your logic I should be condemning Damber Wabsolute despite the perfumer sharing the ingredients and no longer being a part of Tom Ford as well as anti-establishment himself. These scent profiles becoming more accessible only helps the perfumer get more credit, if that's who we really care about here. People aren't buying dupes because they want dupes. They want the OG but can't afford it. Someone's first dip into fragrance is a lataffa dupe of a xerjoff instead of sauvage. They hate "cologne" but this one actually smells nice. Guess who just got a new eventual fan? The perfumer. That's not to say they live off love and adoration, they need money just like us, but more OG bottles being sold doesn't necessarily mean more money in their pocket and more encompassingly, who's to say more OG bottles aren't sold BECAUSE of dupes making scent profiles more accessible? I know I bought Tuxedo because I loved The Tux so much. I never smelled that scent profile before. It's only natural that anyone with a dupe would eventually want to graduate to the real thing. I should probably actually watch past 6 minutes though so let me continue.
@JMiliam
@JMiliam 15 күн бұрын
Oh and more importantly these brands aren't stealing anything because they mostly add a twist of some sorts to them. Of course you have a few that seek to be as identical as possible and get maybe 90% of the way there, but it's mostly twists. That's artistic expression, regardless of whether we like it or not. I'm not saying all is just and fair, but we have to genuinely think about what we're asking here. There are so many remixes of the Mona Lisa and the farmer and his wife that are sold as what they are - twists on the original. We can't compare it to music, we must compare it to the physical art that it is.
@JMiliam
@JMiliam 15 күн бұрын
I wasn't expecting the anti-establishment guy to also be against accessibility. I understand being counter-consumeristic but I think it lends ignorance toward the fact that their existence raises more opportunity for those that might never experience or find too prohibitive to experience. Let's speak toward the culture of fragrance obsession and the mind of the modern consumer, not say "bad clone house!" for existing. It feels like your heart is in the right place artistically, but this logic is practically flawed at best. I can understand how it can come across poorly to others because the point comes off as "buh the artistry" in the face of the fragrance bar being raised for people of low income thanks to these clone houses. And I'm saying this with minimal clones in my arsenal, I like originals. The only real loser with clones is the corps and mother nature, but that's a bigger conversation at hand. I think I'm done watching at the 12 minute mark now, I couldn't imagine anything past this point of the video that would already speak to anything I'm saying while also somehow not negating your own previous points.
@bigboybrayden5236
@bigboybrayden5236 21 күн бұрын
High quality video
@briancruz1442
@briancruz1442 19 күн бұрын
I hate the smell of clones
@silentsir2446
@silentsir2446 19 күн бұрын
Youre 100% correct
@abregoja
@abregoja 5 күн бұрын
no dude, the real scam is fragances to those prices! I even have the budget and not willing to pay for that crap. Stop your non sense. And whatever, people still going to buy dupes haha
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 18 күн бұрын
Most people can’t afford niches and designers. Most “clones” are inspired by’s smell wise. Even some niches and designers are “clones”. Also I like when clones show that you can get something similar for way less. Showing how a lot of fragrances are way overpriced. When I go to walmart I only buy equate mouthwash, toothpaste, shampoo etc. I spend less than $100 a year on all this stuff. But back when I used to buy the original name brand stuff, I was spending almost $80 to buy all my hygiene essentials. And over $300 a year. Is walmart evil for making equate cheaper and more accessible with similar quality. I don’t think so, I think they’re showing us how overpriced these other companies are.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
There isn't really an equivalence here. Does Walmart actively make this Equate stuff in the exact same style as other things? Do they make their bottles in the same shape and colour, do they name them things that bring to mind the more expensive versions, do they actively market them as being the same?
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 17 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells neither do most clone fragrance. I would say the only two clone houses I’ve seen actively copy the bottle design are fragrance world and Maison Alhambra. I would say the most popular brands like lattafa, Afnan, Armaf dont really copy design much. Most of the time you don’t know what its cloning until reviews come out. So its seems your cherrypicking. Only a few come to mind like khamrah and oud for glory. Most of the clones I know you have to trust the reviewers that the fragrance is a clone. 9pm, Club de nuit line(besides milestone), Asad, Liam grey ect. And yeah like mouthwash for example, Walmart will copy the bottle shape and straight say “had similar ingredients to ‘blank’”. Its not shy about saying its a “clone”. Edit: typo.
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 6 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells why you delete my reply😂?
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker 4 күн бұрын
Speak for yourself dude. Anyone with a nice job can afford niche and designer fragrances. Just admit your ass is broke. Get a job.
@cooldude1138
@cooldude1138 18 күн бұрын
In the air they all smell the same. No one will come and sniff your skin and tell you you're wearing a clone.
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
Except for all the hundreds of videos where random people who don't know much about fragrances choose the originals over the clones
@TheSinkagu
@TheSinkagu 17 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells they’re saying what they like better. But most if not all of these smell test, are up close and not in the air. If someone were too smell the sillage of Liam grey for example. They’re not gonna tell me its smells like a clone, no most people just say you smell good or you don’t.
@diegobrando1467
@diegobrando1467 19 күн бұрын
Your like a fragrance Anthony fantano and I mean that negatively
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 17 күн бұрын
At least I have slightly more hair
@diegobrando1467
@diegobrando1467 15 күн бұрын
@@declan.smells probably better taste in music as well
@miguel598
@miguel598 14 күн бұрын
Aventus. Nobody could tell if you're wearing anything. 300€ CDNI. Everybody can appreciate your scent. 30€ Of course I'm into clones. Companies should get into not scamming us
@declan.smells
@declan.smells 13 күн бұрын
Except for all the videos where creators get random people to blindly compare the two side-by-side and the overwhelming majority of participants pick Aventus? There's no reason why you can't like both, but to say that they're on the same level is naive
@pastichiorocker
@pastichiorocker Сағат бұрын
I guess you haven't even smelled Aventus, because you'd know that there's a huge difference between them. One smells like lemon pledge and burnt rubber, and the other is a highly sophisticated, masterfully blended and high quality fragrance.
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