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Just started the video. ...Hannah, Leena, and I are cysters! *Grabs heat pad for my poor ovary working out a cyst* [edit: I have endometeriosis and this video has made me question more about "my" kind of ovaries. Endo dx was in May and has been a little bit of a whirlwind and I am don't know all the answers (or even what to ask)...I don't want a baby in my uterus so all my Baby Making Desires may fly from my little corner of America to Hannah's corner of the UK.]

@@hannahwitton are you in pain it makes me sad if others are wish there was something I could do for you well I have sent alert messages. Publishers Clearing House. Delilah Bell work from home. no person should log into these because they are both scams it's important for the public to know the truth about what is for real and things that look that way.

When do you want to start getting an appointment at the fertility clinic?

yeass ive heard ppl call it that b4!! :)

It's frustrating because it's somehow both. You could be using a super reliable form of birth control and still get pregnant or you could be ttc and it just isn't happening for you. The "danger" of getting pregnant (when that's not what you want) is a problem - but I agree that we should address it in more realistic terms.

Is both like the other person said because if you see teenagers pregnancy it is high!!! So maybe when people are older is becomes more difficult to conceive

To be fair, I have a friend who is like that. She only has to glance at a bloke in the absence of contraception and whoa, baby!

It’s both tho lol. I’ve seen people who got pregnant the first time they ever had sex

​@@ZairaBandy Indeed; what people seem afraid to acknowledge is the fact that fertility in women decreases extremely fast with age, once they're past their reproductive peak. Unless you genuinely don't care, don't wait too long past 22 - 23 years old to have children. The more you wait, the more of a hustle it gets. This is the merciless biological reality.

I agree. It’s highly troubling that the differential for Hannah was “are you overweight?” Rather than a full hormone panel

I’ve been on this medication for the same reason for years, and I would also recommend to her to visit an endocrinologist

I have pcos and it's managed by an endocrinologist rather than a GP or a gyno (although there's nothing bad if either of those professionals manage it!). Highly recommended

@@jenriv89 Totally agree. It must be so frustrating to have your GP brush a question off like that! There were way more follow-up questions they could have asked, or tests they could have recommended.

We used forthwithlife in the uk for a full hormone test which showed the high prolactin and then used those results for the endocrinologist. Really can’t recommend it enough, unfortunately the NHS have been pretty useless

This intuition isn't totally wrong. The more you wait (after your reproductive peak) to have children, the more you'll have to hustle and the more likely you are to "fail". Biology is a bitch but she's a fair bitch.

Also by you I mean you as in the general, YOU as in Hannah don’t need to do anything just so we are clear

Completely agree with this! I’ve had PCOS my whole life and always been called “skinny” until the last 2 years where I started putting on a lot of weight. I’m finally diagnosed now (only as of April 2021!) but they found my cysts in 2019 and didn’t bother telling me because I wasn’t considered “overweight”. It’s mad!

Yes. I also got diagnosed with PCOS, with the remark that I have "lean" PCOS. Basically I'm not overweight because I keep it under control by heavyly restricting, but still have PCOS. It would make no sense to not have PCOS whenever you are not overweight.

I used to have pcos but I cured

All very very true except technically there are other ways to be diagnosed besides a blood test. I have PCOS but it’s not caused by my hormones, it’s caused by pelvic congestion (which is caused by nutcracker syndrome and may Thurner syndrome). I had my PCOS diagnosed by MRI. So how you get diagnosed can vary depending on what causes it.

Exactly!! My cousin was diagnosed with PCOS, and she’s definitely not overweight

You can be insulin resistant and not be overweight at the same time. It depends heavily on your diet and the quality of foods that you eat.

THANK YOUUU. GPs are so INCREDIBLY uneducated about such a common syndrome, it makes me so mad

Yass this! I am not overweight now but I still have PCOS 💁 It took me 18 months to conceive with PCOS while I was waiting for other intervention appointments.

80% are overweight which means 20% are not it's usually those of us with worse insulin resistance been diagnosed with pcos for over 20 years also don't have to cysts at one time at least in usa or i would have been diagnosed earlier i have had cysts since then but again about 80 to 85% of people with pcos get at least 1 cyst in their life and about 20 to 25% of women that don't have pcos do get a cyst.

It's so lovely to read a comment about someone even having babies after 40!! Thank you for posting this. So happy for you

@@RazzleRed543 I had a surprise at 39 and another at 41 conceived with no assistance. This was after years of fertility treatments!

I had exactly the same experience! My diabetologist initially refused to prescribe me the necessary drugs, because I was "too slim to be insulin resistant". She then set me on a low glycemic diet for three months, because she was convinced that I ate unhealthily, during which my PCOS-associated insulin resistance got WORSE. Finally she took me seriously and gave me Metformin, which not only severely alleviated my insulin resistance but also lowered my androgens. I got pregnant within a month of taking the drug, even though I was using contraceptive measures. This is all to say: Don't worry, getting this diagnosis does not automatically mean that you can't concieve.

Very true, you can have PCOS without being overweight. The most important factor is what is happening on hormonal level, whether that translates to all the symptoms or not. I was diagnosed with micropolycystic ovaries a few years ago, I was very thin and still my donctor diagnosed me with PCOS. The thing they didn't ever tell me is that PCOS is not something that can't be cured and it's not a diagnosis for life. My doctor only suggested the pill for the symptoms and IVF if I ever wanted kids, luckily I already knew better and said no. Today I do not have PCOS anymore and I almost always have regular and healthy cycles.

The slimmest friend I have has PCOS, she doesn't diet or work hard to maintain her slim figure and she has a healthy relationship with food etc, she's just naturally (and healthily) slim, so it just goes to show medical conditions are never one size fits all and human biology is so varied!

#NoMoreCraptions! 🙃

The Google auto captions misses a lot of words. The word that gets used can be crazy.

Just curious but how does metformin help with conceiving? I thought that was a drug for diabetics

@@shannonmackenroth4011 Because one of the characteristics of PCOS is that you're prediabetic/have insuline resistance. Your blood sugar hormones are the building blocks of your sex hormones so if they're getting more balanced, so will your estrogens, testosterone and progesterone.

Thank you for you explanation.

Congratulations on your upcoming little angel!!

It frustrates me to no end when doctors think of weight as a cause and not a symptom. 😔

unfortunately this happens to often already when people have PCOS.... its told that if we loose weight it will go away. I feel for your wife. sending hugs love and best wishes from someone who understands the it's because your overweight line.

@@user-ox5nh8kx1l yeah. She can’t seem to lose weight no matter what she tries, so she’s kinda given up trying. Doctors tell her “lose weight and exercise more.” It’s really hard to exercise when you’re in chronic severe pain. Frustrating thing is she was on a treatment that was successful at helping to manage some of her other symptoms (not related to PCOS). Then she had to switch doctors, and the new doctor refused to believe that she has that particular condition and refused to write the prescriptions necessary for her to continue treatment. He was one of the doctors who tried to blame her issues on her weight, etc. Because of that, she’s in far worse pain now, and she isn’t able to exercise as much as she used to.

From the reading I've done in the past, being overweight is caused by PCOS, not the other way around. I'm not officially diagnosed yet (might be the week though) and my medical care in the past (not just pertaining to this) has been lacking so much in the past bc I'm overweight. In my teens i def ate too much, but a few years ago I started eating much healthier and only ate like half the amount. I now have other health problems and can eat even less - I'm prob at the very low end of still eating a healthy amount. Still, I haven't lost any weight at all in the past decade. I'm sorry for writing such a wall of text, all just to say: your wife needs a new doctor. She deserves care. Her weight is a symptom of her disability, not the cause, but even if it would be, she would STILL deserve treatment for her struggles. Being overweight is not a moral failing and does not mean we deserve to not be treated. I wish her (and you) all the best!

medical fatphobia kills, and leaves people in the dark about their health, it’s so so awful

Love the first two questions!! 💯💯💯

Same here ("not trying but trying" since 2016), but I recently read some research on taking myo-inositol for PCOS and like magic I now regularly have a 30 day cycle with normal mucus changes and everything! Still not pregnant but more hopeful than before. Also, the first time in my entire life I have ever seen the green word 'regular' to describe my cycle 😊. Good luck!

I have PCOS and it took my husband and I three years and two miscarriages to have our first daughter. Two years later and now our daughter is almost two and we have a second girl on the way. Don’t give up! It can still happen for women like us with PCOS!! I don’t know where you live, but I’m from California. I changed my diet to only having organic animal products (cheese, milk, meat etc.) if I was going to eat it. And I also changed my personal hygiene products to more natural products. (Soaps, toothpaste, deodorant, laundry soaps) It helped a lot because the outside chemicals and hormones didn’t contribute to my hormone issues. Maybe you can find success with it too? 🤷‍♀️ I found a lot of videos online of other women doing the same thing on KZfaq. Anyway, it really helped me. I wish you all the luck and success too. 💜 OH! Ps. There’s a KZfaqr named Autumn Bates who is a clinical nutritionist. She also has info on helping people balance hormones (which also helps with the whole PCOS/loose weight thing.) I highly recommend her. She was also very helpful for me. I was told to “lose weight” too. And I was actually able to lose some weight while doing her recommendations. And evening walks were also very helpful. :)

I would challenge the thought that a struggling fertility journey would lead to people to consider not raising children; there's adoption, there's fostering. We as a world civilization do not need to conceive our own progeny when there are so many children who live without a home. Adopting and fostering are also great for reducing your carbon footprint!

@@intergalactic_butterfly but some people would rather have their own biological children. Adoption and fostering isn’t the easy option to children either. It can be just as difficult and disappointing to go through as well as costly. It’s just down to personal choice too. If I couldn’t have children naturally, I personally wouldn’t want to put my body through fertility treatments and I wouldn’t want to go through the adoption route so I can see where this person is coming from.

@@rachelam18 Yeah, I know that every option is difficult. I do tend to see things in a utopian manner. However, so many people shut down that possibility, and that's why so many children are in adoption centers or in foster systems. If all options are difficult, than all should be treated with equal consideration and weight… ideally.

@@intergalactic_butterfly I think you misinterpreted my question- it was just a question for Hannah to answer about her personal experience in her Q&A- zero judgment of how people choose to become parents.

@@intergalactic_butterfly That is not at all a simple decision. Firstly, depending on where you live adoption is not an option - there is virtually NO in-country adoption in Australia. International adoptions have significant ethical issues - many children are not actually orphans, and it can be extremely difficult to know if your adoption is really ethical, especially if private. Most international adoptions are for children with significant health and/or emotional issues, not everyone can or should take that on. Further, many countries have strict requirements about age, marriage, heterosexuality, income that prohibits many from adopting. Fostering comes with a whole slew of difficulties that not everyone is able to handle. Not least of which is the very real possibility of having to give up your child to their birth parents. I am fully supportive of adopting and fostering, but when people say it's just a simple and easy thing to do, it is just utterly false.

not currently! I just invited her on to my channel to answer these questions but maybe one day!

@@hannahwitton No sleep 'til Brooklyn! Foot on the pedal never ever false metal Dual motors running hotter than a boiling kettle My job's ain't a job, it's a damn good time City to city I'm running my rhymes On location, touring around the nation Beastie Boys always on vacation Itchy trigger finger but a stable turntable I do what I do best because I'm willing and able Ain't no faking, your money I'm taking Going coast to coast watching all the girlies shaking While you're at the job working nine to five, The Beastie Boys at the Garden - cold kickin' it live No sleep 'til - Another place - another train Another bottle in the brain Another girl - another fight Another drive all night Our manager's crazy, he always smokes dust He's got his own room at the back of the bus Tour around the world, you rock around the clock Plane to hotel, girls on the jock We're thrashing hotels like it's going out of style Getting paid along the way cause it's worth your while Four on the floor - Adrock's out the door M.C.A.'s in the back because he's skeezin' with a whore We got a safe in the trunk with money in a stack With dice in the front and Brooklyn's in the back Why won't you take my ride No sleep 'til No sleep 'til Brooklyn! No sleep 'til Brooklyn! Ain't seen the light since we started this band M.C.A. - get on the mic my man Born and bred Brooklyn - U.S.A They all me Adam Yauch - but I'm M.C.A Like a lemon to a lime - a lime to a lemon I sip the def ale with all the hot girlies Got Teslas, arena, TV shows Autograph pictures and classy hos Step off homes - get out of my way Taxing cute girlies from here to L.A Waking up but I get to sleep Cause I'll be rocking this party eight days a week No sleep 'til No sleep 'til Brooklyn! Yeahh!! No sleep 'til Brooklyn!

I thought it was odd as well. Ellie from Ellie and Jared has talked about her journey with pcos and she is very thin.

Maybe is just a statistic things: there are more women that have PCOS that are overweight than thin people.

aye yeah i thought that was odd too, at the time of my initial diagnosis i was probably a bit UNDERweight if anything,

@@MizMizuki524 me too!

@@ZairaBandy but it is not one of the most defining characteristics, the doctor discarded the possibility of it being PCOS ONLY because she's not overweight!? I even know people with PCOS who ARE insulin resistant and are not overweight. the irregular/long periods are a lot more common in PCOS and Hannah does have that...

Exactly what I wanted to ask! Like, can we help get you sooner to that specialist?

From an American standpoint, this sounds exactly like what we deal with minus the expenses/fear of not having the right insurance.

@@EyeGlassTrainofMind I agree, not much better in the US. And if you screw up and accidentally go out of network, which is super easy to do, it’s financially devastating. Everything has to go through my GP (in-network) but none of the labs or testing centers connected to my GP are in network. So for every outside provider I have to call the insurance company and the doctor (usually a few times) to MAKE SURE they are in network, and that the very specific service is covered. According to both, my ultrasound was in-network and “covered”but it currently shows as costing $950 out of pocket. Now my GP wants to send me to an obgyn, which has a two month waitlist. American private healthcare is such a joke. I miss Obamacare so bad.

Oh, that's great information. Thanks for sharing!

Yes the morning after pill doesn’t always work! I hate it in tv when people take it and they’re like ‘that’s that sorted’ when it’s not, necessarily

The morning after pill only works if you haven't ovulated yet, it just delays ovulation :)

Are you in the UK? Typically, you can't decide where you get referred to within the NHS, as far as I am aware.

@@MusicalK93 they're going privately i believe, just being referred by their GP? theres some paid-for aspects of care that NHS can direct you towards. i might have missed something though

@@LemonSte They only did the fertility testing for Dan privately. Hannah mentioned in another video that she is going through the NHS for her care. Maybe that will change though.

@@MusicalK93 Sometimes you get to choose where you're referred to if there's multiple places nearby or they'll refer you to both to see which is available first

I had a really similar story. Lots of hip pain, investigations and then an orthopaedic consultant just mentions in passing “oh and you have cysts on your ovaries including a dermoid cyst” then moved on…. So I went and googled…. BIG MISTAKE! Dermoid cysts is another name for those ones with teeth and hair and mine was 10cm 😳 I had it removed and then they just dismissed me without answering any further questions telling me I didn’t need to worry until I wanted to have a baby. But what if by then it’s too late? I found this video so helpful!

@@hedferguson oh wow that's so scary!! And the fact they were so dismissive and nonchalant, that must have been so frustrating!! I hope you get on okay in future when it comes to the possible symptoms of such an ailment. Sending love!!

Yes it definitely does. Ppl thinknyhey are the same thing but they have unique differences. Often in pcos women do not ovulate and getting them to ovulate seems to be the biggest factor in treatment for them to get pregnant. Women with pco already ovulate but still aren't getting pregnant so obviously there is a different issue occurring....

Me too. :D

I've not heard of embryo adoption. Can you explain what it is?

@@masonwinfreyplatman2294 When couples go through IVF, they may not implant all the embryos they've created. If this happens, they can donate an embryo, much like someone could donate sperm or eggs. Once donated, that embryo can be adopted by another family, and implanted into the adopter's uterus.

@@masonwinfreyplatman2294 It's when another couple goes through the ivf process and have "left over" frozen embryos that they do not wish to implant they could place them for adoption. Meaning other people can adopt the embryo and use them for their ivf implantation. Often people opt for embryo adoption if they're not able to produce viable embryos themself.

@@masonwinfreyplatman2294 other people have answered! I hadn't heard of it until very recently either and I'm not sure if it's common in the UK. I've heard of it happening more in the USA x

hope you're able to get an appointment soon!

This has been me, it was almost a year between my referral and actually seeing a gynae, and another 6 months to my next appointment so I spent that time doing everything I could in between. It's so frustrating, best of luck!

@@bethhill7161 Ugh so annoying! Every time I call them, all they say is that they'll give me an appointment when one comes up. I understand that people with more severe symptoms need to go first but I just worry that it's something that needs attention now and waiting will make it worse :( best of luck with your appointments too!!

@@hannahwitton 680k and ur still not verified....

Wow, that sounds scary! I remember looking at teratomas in pathology labs and thinking that they were clearly the most extra tumour, but I didn't think of them as super freaky at the time. Would love an MDJ video on them though!

I didn't realize they could be recurrent! Thinking about it now, I suppose it makes sense, but that's kind of mind boggling that they can keep coming back.

Truth sadly. I unfortunately had to threaten a formal complaint to convince the doctors to see my 7 week old baby who could hardly breathe because of her dairy allergy. I felt awful but it was the only way in the end

(teratoma is from the Greek, meaning "monster" yikes)

That would be quite the conversation piece! 😂

I had to Google what they were even though the speaker said not to and omg HOW freaky!!

I know a strong Canadian sorcerer that can help you get pregnant

I know this was meant for Hannah to answer but I thought I should give my 2-cents; It's bloody hard. We've been trying for 18months now. Seen a few babies born within that time by work colleagues, friends, and a family member. And even now, there's some new pregnancies that have cropped up around me. I can't lie and say it's fine, because it really does hurt. But it's not their fault and it's not my fault. It's not fair on them to be angry or bitter all the time. They have done nothing wrong. Just need to remind yourself that life goes on and people around you will get pregnant. Some may even have been trying for a lot longer or had a more difficult journey to get there, but there will be some that just happen, or have only been trying for a month or two... That's just the way it is. It's really not worth comparing your journey to others as you'll only cause harm to yourself. In response to stupid comments; tbh I just leave them be and let them go. I've heard 1 pregnant work colleague complain about how other people in her life are pregnant at the same time as her as somehow "it's not fair" that she's not the only pregnant person right now... I was incredibly angry and just walked away rather than confront her about it. It wasn't worth the punishment! I think it depends on really who knows about your journey and who said the comment. If you tell a lot of people that you're trying, be prepared for any remark (and also be prepared for them to forget you're even trying! That's happened for us). If you only tell close friends/family, then I doubt they'll say anything stupid, and even if they do you can explain to them why the comment hurt. I'm sure they'll be understanding. But at the end of the day, you really can't control what people say, and you can't expect them to understand what you're going through. It would be nice if no-one said hurtful things, but that's not realistic. You can only control yourself and how you react to things. The hardest part of trying for a baby is managing your emotions and keeping yourself sane! I went through months of being upset, angry, and bitter towards people (many people didn't see it though as I kept it hidden and I was a bit two-faced!). It really isn't worth doing that and only makes the trying to conceive process harder!! I wish you all the best for when you do start trying though :)

@@FeatherpawStudio thank you so much for sharing ❤️ Sounds like it will be emotional and I just need to accept that!

I feel this comment

Iknow a strong canadian sorcerer that can help manifest children into your womb

@@tiffanybucker2052 hmm

@@spagetd1526 Yes dear he is very reliable and good

@@tiffanybucker2052 seeing as it sixteen i’m not interested in children being manifested into my womb but maybe in like a decade

Try out herbal remedies

@@sarahmiller6452 I appreciate that you're trying to help me. But after 5 miscarriages I'm not going to try to get pregnant anymore. It's way too stressful and painful

I know a man that can help you get pregnant

You don't need to be sad have you tried herbal remedies?

@@sarahmiller6452 not sad because of PCOS, sad in general. I am a huge fan of both of them and seeing them collaborate to educate about women’s health makes me happy regardless of the cause of my sadness :)

@@Jellybeansatdusk yeah that's how i feel too more reason why i can proudly say to you I'm PCOS free 10years and a blocked fallopian tube cleared open by an herbal fertility medications