Free to play always means excessive monetization. I’m skeptical until proven otherwise.

Even though I didn't get access to the PC test, the mobile version of Arean Breakout is still quite enjoyable. At least I don't have to spend $250.

went from "enough to say fuck tarkov forever" to "i have some concerns"

Trying out a free-to-play game comes with no loss, so why not give it a shot?

Today's experience with "Arena Breakout Infinite" was fantastic. The server latency is low, the matchmaking speed is fast, and there's no lag while playing.

After playing for a while today, I feel that Arena Breakout Infinite has the potential to surpass EFT someday, at least it won't take 7 years of testing.

I just want to unlock shit by doing shit

Arena Breakout mobile already exist with microtransactions, but it really doesn't influence the game much. Sure you'd come across some pay-2-win players, but god damn it, those players are walking loot and they just don't know it yet

Appreciate the fact that Bigfry addressed the issue with Tencent. Even beyond the CCP connection, the company has an abysmal track record with anti-consumer practices in their game production. I personally was hype about this game until I found out who was making it.

Why is anyone surprised that a free to play game is asking you to spend extra money? They cost money to make and maintain...

I think its funny when people "click off because TENCENT" like Tencent doesnt own 80% of the gaming industry in the states already xD. Most popular games have investments from tencent these days. Epic games, Riot Games, Grinding Gear Games, ubisoft, funcom, splash damage, techland, bluehole, activision blizzard, paradox, hell even DISCORD. They are an investment firm with a heavy vested interest in gaming. MOST popular games these days are atleast 5%+ ownership from tencent.

Arena Breakout Infinite's anti-cheat is excellent; so far, I haven't encountered any cheaters during gameplay. The gaming experience is much better compared to EFT.

Nikita tries every possible way to swindle your money, unlike Arena Breakout Infinite, offers free play and doesn't expect anything in return.

The Tencent argument is redundant because they own a majority of nearly every major developer and publisher anyways.

I'm a simple man. I hear tencent, I turn the other way.

I don't know how people didn't expect this kind of stuff from a Tencent game it's really not surprising

People moan about Tencent but forget that nearly every gaming company has Tencent as backers 😂

Bro, I don't know who's gameplay you were showing, but it was hard to watch at some moments. lol. Great video as always man.

He said that there would be no p2w but convenience lol. Yeah that's also a problem! That means they will make things inconvenient on purpose?

Man I knew this video was coming😂 Glad I'm not the only with these concerns

If you're turned off by "tencent" uninstall anything Discord, Riot Games, Epic Games and more... Lol

Well, this is how every free mobile game ends, p2w

The same people talking about pay to win legit paid for eod on tarkov which gives your way more space in your inventory in game and your stash lol

I downloaded the mobile version on my pc and before I started a game I suddenly got banned. NGL, their security is kinda good

I played arena breakout and ngl, as a free player you'd get more than enough equipment and rewards to be ln same footing as paying players. Even more if you got to kill them, since you could loot them and get whatever they paid for for that match.

Anyone who’s played the game knows it’s not P2W. You don’t even have to pay a cent to advance. Only thing you pay is skins and secure case but none of that is game breaking or takes advantage in-game. Anyone whose used real money only used it because they have no more Keons from losing so much or expand secure case. You can earn Keons in-game if your a good player you don’t even need to expand secure slots. Nothing in this game is P2W. It’s a free game that everyone can enjoy without paying. No game has a perfect anti-cheat programs. It’s how they maintain it. Compared to tarkov they already made a clear excuse why they can’t handle cheaters. So comparing the game is mostly just how cheaters handled and gameplay. For money there is no comparison.

2:53 Alright what was that moan

I dont care about buying kits but man the secure container being only paid on mobile is ridiculous its a monthly subscription just to get one

Did you see the shots they took at BSG's anti cheat while they were discussing their anti cheat? at 4:17 look at the image on that card he's holding.

It is a Chinese free to play game, what do you think is gonna happen.

Okay Fry, if you don't wanna play this maybe don't join the beta, no one forces you

None of these KZfaqrs have actually played the mobile version, not even touched it, so I am not gonna be surprised of the reaction to the release

It would be nice to get some.more of these shooters to console. Vigor is okay and DMZ was fun while they where still supporting but besides that theirs not much so hopefully they consider a console release in the future.

" Come on man " is fry letting us now he's got no Fucks to give anymore..

Btw the closed betas in mobile microtransactions is turned off until the game is fully released(which fully released a year ago)

The spending money for convenience thing isnt a big deal, its like 3$ a month for a 2x2 safe container or 6$ for a 2x4 and fairly unnecessary, you can get a free 1X2 for bullets for 47 hours each week with in game points, theres also a hige keychain you can soend money on but the one you get from questing is more then enough.

Any idea if there will be a pve only chill mode?

TBH id sell my soul if just one of these companies that are jumpin on this train could bring back (the good parts of) 2019 Tarkov PVP. Labs as a game would be all many of us need. please! Anyone?

concerns aside 2morow is the day we will see how things will go

If Stalker 2 is a great Game i really would love if they invested money into a second studio maybe in czechia or something that makes an extraction shooter in the zone. It would be so cool collecting artifacts with other Stalkers while shooting Mutants, Monoliths or Bandits and more. Could even be made like Gray Zone Warfare where every faction has a base and you venture out to do quests or go on loot runs in an open world.

If f2p means it will be p2w, can tarkov be considered p2w? cuz u have to pay for cheats to have a chance

You have to appreciate the irony of a studio called "More Fun" offering microtransactions to make their game more convenient

Well it is a free-to-play game if nobody likes it then you can just delete it and not worry about it

Arena breakout mobile player here. I've been play it since closed beta. I never pay a single cent, and I have no problem playing it as a f2p player. No disadvantage whatsoever. I asure you arena breakout is not a p2w game. The only thing you can buy with a real money is secure container, character/outfit skins, weapon skins, and battle pass which contain weapon/outfit skins too. You can buy a bundle of armour and weapon if you want, but even if you are f2p player like me you can buy armour and weapon inside that bundle with in-game currency named koen.

Dumb argument to not give any data to Chinese developers but there is no problem to accept any terms of service from any other app or software with live service that you download on your phone or PC for data collection. 🙄🙄

gray warzone has p2w aka pay money to gain convenance too with extra weapons & stash sizes in their "Supporter packages"... no youtuber said anything. so Now a Free to play also has p2w is pointed out? ehhhhhhh i refuse to buy EOT due to that i refuse to buy Gray Warzone due to that and I will refuse to play this game due to the same thing. consistency is key, So at least you provided me with the information for this game so i wont even have to bother checking it out Edit: unless the game has a PvE only mode... where i dont even have to worry about facing mister Deep pockets

the convenience microtransactions have been in the mobile version since the beginning and i think it has not affected the game on a large scale. you pay for ingame currency, cases, and storage space and nothing more. anything you pay for can VERY quickly be earned by normal means. for perspective you can very easily hit 1 mil within a day, with a large Ebox being worth only 700k

Micro-transaction for this game will be for the locker box which like the gamma box for eft and expansion of ur stash. If you pay money for the battlepass, u can get stash expansions and premium currency. Mobile version does this so I'm expecting the same thing to the PC version.

Ever wanted to buy Weapons, Armor, Rubles with real Money? Then it’s your lucky day you will be able to buy in game currency and Gears with real money in Arena Breakout Infinite. Good luck

Microtransactions in a FREE TO PLAY game is better than microtransactions in a game who's best variant is literally $250.

You can buy kits in arena Breakout mobile, and you can earn builds doing missions and and challenges, daily logins, and levelling up on free or premium battlepasses. The cosmetics can be obtained playing ranked modes or buying battle passes. Arena Breakout is kinda rough at times but they give a bunch of gear for free players.

if you spend money on gear in the end you enter the raid with the same gear as everyone else. in the mobile version if u enter with a high loadout value the other players also have the same loadout value. its sort of like skill based matchmaking but for loadout value

Never heard of Chinese company called “morefun” yeaaah…….not touching it with a 10 foot pole

I mean, their mobile game already is technically pay to win. The elite battle pass, you can pay for a bigger safe storage box, you can buy in-game currency and then used that towards lvl 6 gear that you don’t get in any free rewards methods. Yes, you could grind for all of it and the game gives you enough gear to work with but even those more expensive bullets topping out at over $1,000 per bullet, which you’ll need just to survive in some of the hardest levels and seeing as though I’ve been one shotted through a $200,000 helmet from a cheap gun with cheap bullets, it does have a very pay to win aspect and the the way they do cosmetics makes you end up paying $25+ for a weapon skin. It is a good game. Considering the levels and everything are essentially the same, it’s too bad there isn’t any cross progression

can anyone help..i have been accepted to the beta however the website isnt reachable..ive tried on phone laptop pc desktop tablet nothing..it wont open so i cant even download the beta and i have heard nothing on the twitter

The biggest problem with any game that is f2p but full of micro transactions is that the devs of said games never balance it out, so it truly is for convenience rather then to actually get ahead and stay ahead.

WHAT! Why do players not write the game off for being a mobile game make for PC?! That's the biggest tell of them all!

Ive played the mobile game quite a bit, The micro transactions are skins, a bigger secure container(like Tarkov) and kits. Most people wont even buy the kits for real money because you can loose it to a shitter with a double barrel shotgun. It doesn't give you more health or any major advantage, its a free game. How else are they going to make money? Should they have a 250$ version? Plus they have a in house anti cheat, which matters more for fairness that microtransactions. ABI's AC can detect DMA cards.

Gotta love optics mounted to a non-monolithic handguard. What's zero retention?

Nobody say they gave a lot of free conteiners for 3 days, and you get 2 free conteiners from the free battle pass for 3 days, also the rank store you can buy 2 conteiners

1 view in 27 seconds. Fell off

1 view in 32 sec bro fell off Edit:you guys are so mad you should drink some milk lmao

welo i really needed a video while sick :)

Shit fry you know we appreciate your opinion all the time my guy or we wouldn’t watch, keep up the good work as always bro! ❤

Dude can you stop complaining about games that build their own business model The mobile version is free to play you can pay for cosmetics as well as the convenience of furthering your gameplay just because it isn't the game you want doesn't mean its going to suck.

I’m amazes me how expensive things like insurance are in these style games. Tarkov and vigor alike, hell vigor is like $1 or more each match for insurance

Mag release on tha left is driving me nuts and why is the laser always on

U missed the funfact while they talked about anticheat that the guy holds a Tarkov DMA card in his hand... :D was kinda funny.

The “Chinuhhh” was gold.

Come on guys. China needs another aircraft carrier so we gotta buy the Taiwan unification package

We'll see how it goes, im jsut glad grayzone and others are emerging to challenge BSG and maybe overall improve the extraction shooter genre.

how exactly are they suposed to earn money without monitization?

Im just assuming their business model is the same as mobile. It's not as bad as it seems because the people who just buy the boxes for equipment are generally pretty bad at the game. Anything you buy can and will be lost to players who never spent a dime. I never spent any money in the mobile version and I did completely fine. Pretty much completed their version of a "wipe".

Damn I was actually looking forward to this one

Bangers!!

I don't mind paying for convinience like stash size,xp boost stuff like that as long as its pricing is reasonable. I think paying you should be expected to pay some money to fully enjoy the game. I think having a premium subscription like in ESO is the best way to secure stable income for the studio and not making the game "Wahle-able". Its healthier for the game to have crucial feature behind paywall and have most player to pay like $10~20 every few month than have $100 skins.

The thing is, if the game is like Tarkov, but free and without a container case (only obtainable by purchase) would it be pay for convenience? Yes. Would it be okay? of course. So we just have to wait and see

Alright lets get into it but Big fry you should talk about the tarkov spt mod and give your thoughts

Cant wait to buy my pink ghilie suit

The mobile version have subscription for secure containers on top of a battle pass which are pretty expensive.

They will have microtransaction but on the minor battlepass vs subscription. Where you use money to get certain advance when use real money. But i think it’s still fair cause they just use real time and money instead of spend hours to grind. And of all, i think it’s also a good one for those who want to jump in with friend and enjoy their precious time.

i play the mobile version, the things you can buy: t4 gear + gun (mid) season pass (gives u t4 + weapon ad ammo packs ) a safe 2x1 or 2x2 i only buy the battle pass and its more than enough for me bc i get high end gear the “legit” way and the t4 from the pass is basically a “casual match stash” that i use when i dont mind loosing loot also, the safe can be bought every week with ranked currency it doesn’t get in your way unless you suck at the game and compesate w wallet also if you dont play scav and use the market to make extra currency edit: theres also a monthly subscription 40k weekly/daily (cant remember) and a safe its 25-50 R$ here in 🇧🇷, imo this is a waste of money, id rather buy a 6 pack of budweiser with this 25-40 reais

How to join bata?

Goddammit. I was excited.

Big shoes to fill. BIG shoes. If they deliver… game changer.

More extraction shooters need anti cheat systems like The Cycle had. Where if you died to a cheater, and that cheater later got banned…you would get your gear back from that death. It made the frustration of dying to a cheater a lot more manageable

From what I've played its really really fun

I think having a huge company backing it with an extensive track record of successfully monetizing games like this almost guarantees a higher level of organization overall. They'll have their plans for future development & monetization established in advance. The playerbase might not like it, but at least they know what they're getting into.

I can see them doing some cheesy things like exp buffs and bigger secure containers but idk we will just have to see but so far really enjoying my experience

if they go the path of exile way selling inventory space or xp multiplyers i woudn't mind honestly, as long as the free to play inventory isnt just 2rows.. also more f2p games should have a free version and a payed one..

Convenience and personalisation is exactly what they should do in a F2P game, as long as you cant pay to buy a thermal straight up.

Kinda makes me wonder how they will treat the steam deck / linux users that will be interested in the game

I'm sad, I didn't get access to the beta.

IMO, free to play games like this should have two versions and one type of monetization. A limited version of the game for free, full featured version for $40-70. That's it. Maybe make the equivalent featureset and stash size of the basic edition of Tarkov be free. And the big stash size + all available features be behind a single full price paywall. Keep a basic stash size, maybe lock stuff like insurance behind a paywall, but all the SAME singular paywall. Just two options, free to play, or paid, that's it. *NOT BS LIKE* $20 for full progression, $10 for insurance, $25 for stash size increase etc... Just free basic bitch edition or one single payment for all features. So something like a permanent demo/trial being the free version. Serious players still bring in full price bucks, free to play gives people a taste and helps keep the game populated. Maybe even cap the progression for free to play (you can only go to level 50 instead of the full 100, can only get through the first chapter/third/section of the questline, etc...) I don't mind paying $10's of dollars, if it's one paywall and one lump sum. Buy once, cry once. There should be a way for free to play to also have a buy once cry once monetization

The mobile version has subscription stuff in it for free loot/storage space/kit and they're quite pricey but the game itself is pretty generous by way of daily challenges that grant free money and/or kit. Idk about its current monetization scheme but they were that way in the closed beta and launch of the mobile version. Never felt the need to subscribe to it other than extra storage space, and yes, there are stashes that the vendors are trading for some required loot just like Tarkov, so you probably dont need it unless you like hoarding stuff to sell more stuff in the flea market which is quite fun itself. One thing I can say about this game, even on mobile, it's polished as f. i hated it on mobile because i suck on playing fps on it, but it's actually beyond decent. You can see the money that went to it. It's as if they've consulted some experienced western devs to work on the game. It's a great alternative for the more punishing Tarkov and the game feel isn't far off either. Idk if I can trust Tencent software on my PC though

Hey bigfry. Are you making a video about tarkov situation? I'm curious what your reaction is.

2:52 bro bussin on command

Free to Play and Chinese developer is probably the biggest combined red flag in gaming

Well, at least it's free to test a few hours or even days before throwing any money at them. I'm a simple man. If it runs well for me on my sys, if they will have good anti cheat, and I'm having fun, I'm good with spending a few bucks on some more fun. If it sucks, I didn't loose anything.

Let's just face it, there's never going to be a Tarkov killer. Even a direct rip off using the same code is already starting to have serious concerns and it hasn't even come out yet