I Hired a Brakeman to Run Bigger Gravity Trains in Railroads Online!

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2 жыл бұрын

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are back with another gravity run from the iron mine except this time I hired a brakeman to do the work for us! In this episode ‪@DapperEcho‬ will attempt to transport a massive load of iron without any help while I sit back and collect the profits!
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@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын

Hey come on kinky track is just... authentic? That's what people are telling me. Evidently I'm going to have to make one good track just to prove I can.... lol! But what was the message?!?!?!?!? :P

@jamesneumann2003 2 жыл бұрын

hhmmm, I wonder right?

@thisismyusername6071 2 жыл бұрын

mmhhhmhmhmghhhh i wonder what is the message mhmhmhmhmmhmhm

@Charun1982 2 жыл бұрын

No kink shaming! :P

@diamondwolf771 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@roadtrain_ 2 жыл бұрын

Guess you need to add more emphasis

@Streaky100001 2 жыл бұрын

The UK used to use something called slip cars on passanger trains. The idea was it allowed an express train to service minor stations.... without stopping. The idea was if you wanted to go to such a station you would sit in the rear car, and at a pre-determined time they'd disconnect the car from the rest of the train, while moving at mainline speed. There would be a brakeman aboard who would then ride the brakes to stop the car in the minor station. They'd have a shunter living at the station which would drag the car off the mainline, and they'd then be collected and run back. The cars we're of course specially designed to allow this to happen.

@CathodeRayKobold 2 жыл бұрын

There were also gravity run passenger rides for when the mines weren't running (Or at least one of them, anyway). It was some of the most fun you could have before rollercoasters. Clearly the devs need to take these both into account.

@Streaky100001 2 жыл бұрын

@@CathodeRayKobold Ah, nice, wasn't aware of that, but it sounds cool!

@brycehill6678 2 жыл бұрын

One of the more famous places that used to send freight cars downhill by gravity was the Tallyllyn railway in Wales. It was a slate railway where at the end of the day, workmen would board the freight cars and ride back down the mountain to home. Obviously they don't do that anymore, but the Tallyllyn still exists as a preservation line still running the original locomotives from the 1860s. So make sure to go visit them when you can

@sammyjpeg8322 2 жыл бұрын

Did you mean the ffestiniog or did the talyllyn actually did that?

@kestrelscout7155 2 жыл бұрын

I've worked on that railway! It's more of a tourist thing now but still really fun to work on

@CrashDown__75 2 жыл бұрын

You're right in saying the Talyllyn don't do the gravity trains anymore, but the Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway still run them! You used to be able to ride in them as well; half of the wagons would be loaded with slate and manned by the brakemen, but the rest of the wagons were empty, made up as seats for anyone brave enough to buy a ticket!

@brycehill6678 2 жыл бұрын

@@kestrelscout7155 Nice! I've worked on The Cumbers and Toltec, but always wanted to see the Tallyllyn.

@tstuart9148 2 жыл бұрын

Right but if you want to see number 1 talylln your have to wait till there done the overhaul on her and as for dolgoch which is number 2 there doing minor piston work but she be back faster then number 1 so numbers 3 and 4 sir Haydn and Edward Thomas are getting a work out along with numbers 6 and 7 Douglas and Tom rolt.but that just there steam engines.

@jacewickem3710 2 жыл бұрын

Hyce's message will not go unnoticed, because for once you didn't mention how you need to put a Y section at the lumber mill.

@captainsnekk 2 жыл бұрын

True

@eaglesworld742 2 жыл бұрын

True

@christiansedgwick1496 2 жыл бұрын

facts

@CathodeRayKobold 2 жыл бұрын

It's a wye, not a y. It's where you turn a split into a T-junction by connecting the 2 branches to each other.

@ExodusNexus222 2 жыл бұрын

true dat

@hrk9209 2 жыл бұрын

The Oil Car video you saw was a yard in russia, basically its a thing in modern railroads where they send cars down a hill into a yard and switch out tracks to sort the cars going on there own and they use tracks with brakes built in so the cars will go down the tracks into certain siding for trains.

@odiltm259 2 жыл бұрын

it’s called a hump yard and they have been in use at least since the 40s maybe even earlier

@steeljawX Жыл бұрын

The term, long after the fact and long learned from Hyce, is weirdly called "humping." More of the fact that the cars are being shoved over a hump in the ground and not because things that violate KZfaq Community Guidelines would be happening. . . . that we know of. However, that makes me seriously wonder how bad are train schedules in Russia if they get just a single oil tanker in the middle of everything else? Usually you get sections of stuff going to the same place. But this does make the fact that there is, for better or worse, a profession called a humper who humps all day and humps as much as they can as fast as they can and contextually, that's not dirty at all and actually keeps the industry running. So yeah, teach your kids, folks, about the various jobs out there. Maybe you'll get a call from your kid's school with them complaining that your son or daughter said that when they grow up they want to become a professional humper.

@Nevir202 2 жыл бұрын

29:02 If you made the loading area sloped enough, you could pull all the cars past the loading area, and leave, they would have to carefully manipulate the brakes to load the cars, then just turn them off and roll away. Meanwhile, in the time it took them to load, you could already basically be at the bottom of the hill, to grab another train.

@BotherRed 2 жыл бұрын

The next time Kan posts a vid of himself actually making progress in the game is going to be crazy, no one will expect it lol

@danielgamboa1200 2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@Steelphoenix77. 2 жыл бұрын

Kan will never progress again, because it will be neccesary to biuld this Y at the Sawmill first

@realRyanMeade 2 жыл бұрын

An interesting experiment would be to make a gravity fed like that went in a loop. But get a ridiculous amount of train cars and have them go around the entire loop and then make an entire gravity fed rail line.

@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын

yes and congratulations, your comment was stolen, i offer you comments insurance, i does nothing, but take it anyways

@SapioiT 2 жыл бұрын

YOu should have the last 2 carts with the breaks facing eachother, so you can more easily manage the breaks. Do this for both ends, and it won't matter on which side you add the locomotive.

@Moronic.Movies 2 жыл бұрын

Gravity runs aren’t used on most first class railroads,The last was a 3 2 class railroad in 1907. Nice vid by the way!

@nuclearboom2467 2 жыл бұрын

Kan out of context: "his server is pretty kinky"-kan 2022

@HopperNation 2 жыл бұрын

lol I cant believe Kan didnt get the joke at 12:25.

@TheVeryRandomPerson 2 жыл бұрын

It's more like a reference than a joke.

@HopperNation 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVeryRandomPerson A joke is something said or done to make someone laugh, in this case, this reference was said to make kAN laugh. So we are both correct.

@Ekipsogel 2 жыл бұрын

The message is Fix Me -H With groundwork and poorly laid 3ft rail for motivation

@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын

Ouch

@General_Taylor 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hyce777 lol it looks kinda normal compared to ur track

@ironmanjrb3688 2 жыл бұрын

"his server is very Kinky" -Kan 2022

@ironmanjrb3688 2 жыл бұрын

ALSO BUILD THE DANM Y I SAW HIS EPISODE AND YEAH DO IT!

@sksofficial5908 2 жыл бұрын

Kan: Its kinky over there Dapper: Oh is it now??? 🤣🤣🤣

@EwanMarshall 2 жыл бұрын

The first railways were all gravity down, horses up. The brakemen on the cars would only get paid for the downhill run, but were paid very well, then they would hook up horses to haul the carts back up the hill/mountain to take more mined resources down to the ports where boats were waiting (sometimes river port with smaller intermediate boats which would sail down the river and transfer to a larger boat for actual proper transport wherever the material was going). Others have already pointed out how this changed with the coming of steam traction.

@frselsig 2 жыл бұрын

The Ffestiniog Railway in North Wales was built as a gravity railway. Trains of empty waggons would be hauled by a horse up to the slate mines, and the horse would ride back in a special waggon called a "dandy waggon" at the back of the train. In later years, when the line got steam locomotives and passenger cars, the empty waggons would hang off the back of an uphill passenger train, then the full waggons would come back by gravity, and the loco would haul the passenger train back without waggons. The line was built on a constant 1 in 80 gradient for this reason.

@statelyelms Жыл бұрын

Man the views of your friend across the valley really sells this game to me. Imagine being able to schedule train routes and such by idk, recording your own runs.. watching trains coast along the mountainsides at your speeds with your amount of brake or engines and whistles etc.. that'd be so cool!

@Dumbrarere 2 жыл бұрын

kAN, something to note about geared locomotives is that due to the placement of the cylinders, the boiler and other critical components compared to the drive shaft and wheels, their center of gravity is much higher than on traditional locomotives. As such, they are far more prone to tipping over on corners at high speeds, which needs to be taken into account when going on sharp corners down steep slopes.

@3DPDK 2 жыл бұрын

Building a line up that gorge from the smelter to the logging camp is quite a challenge to keep the grade low. There are two passes over the mountain to choose from and no room to make "switch backs" I did it with a 3.5% grade but it took a bit of a dog-leg around the smelter valley to come down the last 5 or so meters in elevation. On the other side if you follow the terrain down the western side of the map, you can get down to the logging camp with a 2% grade. It's especially *cool* to watch your train come down the line on the cliff side of the gorge, and a couple of places where it might take a "dev bridge" to make it look realistic. ... a real building challenge!

@kraftyfox.2658 2 жыл бұрын

I finally saved up enough to buy the game! And I wanna thank you, and everyone you've had on your server, that inspired me. I'm re-living my childhood Railroad Tycoon days!

@jimmypetrock 2 жыл бұрын

dammit your becoming a real narrow gauge boss

@TailcoatGames 2 жыл бұрын

“Hired” free labor

@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын

i really appreciate the more frequent uploads c:

@gordovela9067 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@guillermoelnino 2 жыл бұрын

meanwhile scrap mechanic be like... 🤷‍♂️

@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын

@@guillermoelnino 🥲

@AgentWest 2 жыл бұрын

Push 7-10 empties up while pulling same number. Load the front and send it down with a brakeman. Load the back and drive it down like normal. By the time you get to the bottom the gravity train should be empty and waiting, so just empty the rear and repeat. Essentially this would be like running a double-long train with faster load/unload.

@emeraldzebra9360 2 жыл бұрын

On a line near me that until safety rules stopped it, used gravity trains alot. They would use one uncoupled locomotive at the downhill end, shove the train of empties to the top and past the loading point. Then the locomotive would run back to the bottom light engine and get the next lot ready, while the wagons were rolled and stopped repeatedly until fully loaded. Then it would be brakes off and make it's decent down the hills.

@Gibztr 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! look at that gravity line! 😁. Super Cool Man!

@thundercreekcustoms 2 жыл бұрын

One of the more famous gravity railroads in the States was the Mauch Chunk Switchback Railway in what’s now Jim Thorpe, PA. Coal hoppers were hoisted to the top of the mountain, loaded then released to ride back down. In the later years they even had some people riding on the cars. Some say the railway inspired more than a few roller coasters

@heine0085 2 жыл бұрын

I wacht this on two screens simultaneously and that was amazing. It gave both an visit on your page. Nice thinking 👍

@eaglesworld742 2 жыл бұрын

I just watch dappas vesion both perspectives r very cool

@Wack-o 4 ай бұрын

When Dapper started talking about that bumpy rail line in Ohio, I'm surprised nobody mentioned his loop track at the Freight Depot, way at the start of the game.

@MrGrumpyToast 2 жыл бұрын

There are still railroads that use gravity for some shunting and sorting, also with gravity lines there would have been 2 cars on cables on 2 lines so the heavy loaded cars at the top of the grade would "pull" the empty cars back up the grade and vice versa so no locomotives were needed, also i dont know if they did it with narrow (or standard) guage train cars but i know they did it with mine carts

@MrNobody-bv4ec 2 жыл бұрын

Breakmen no lnoger have to do quite that, use to work at a rail yard, now they are usually the ones making couplings, throwing switches, etc etc. I don't miss working at a railroad, but was always cool seeing the locomotives come and go and how the trains were made up. Will never miss all the snooting though

@shonepalmer7039 2 жыл бұрын

The only way the gravity train would be worth it, is if you had enough iron to put more than the weight the train could handle. So if you brough up enough hopper cars to get maximum iron, then it would be beneficial. You could do 30 cars, send down 5-7 for each brakeman to keep it manageable, and then it may be worth doing the gravity method..

@GenXToysGeek 2 жыл бұрын

kAN hires the king of derailing, king doesn't derail, kAN derails twice :P

@jruonti 2 жыл бұрын

Gravity track might make sense with some planning. Like take beams and lumber to iron mine and bring empty iron cars with them. Then send iron cars down with gravity and train takes the plank cars back. Then when you take cordwood to smelter you bring the empty iron cars back to sawmill so they are waiting for the next time you bring woodstuff to iron mine.

@Isaacc11618 2 жыл бұрын

Now what you could do is create a yard at the iron mine that has a gradient (like 3-6 percent) so that you can store cars onto it full of iron, then when you need to take it to the smelter you just release the breaks on the stored cars to give momentum to the cars starting the gravity train with no train (this also means that you could possibly run multiple gravity trains at once).

@henrytwigg4619 2 жыл бұрын

In Wales narrow gauge railways would send slate down hills without engines and in some places they let passengers ride the cars

@duh_bobby1130 2 жыл бұрын

Last vid you said you dated yourself, however I am firmly in the yen Z, but I also played with trains and your content is my favorite to watch on KZfaq (specifically fail roads online), so thanks kAN, for the joy you give. 😊

@revampedharpy09 Жыл бұрын

3:18 i mean one potential way to avoid that is to have the brakes work in reverse, where theyre on by default and a person has to manually turn them off. sorta like if driving a car, your brakes were always on EXCEPT for when you press the brake pedal. that way if the person falls off, the bakes come on automatically. sorta like a dead mans switch (except hopefully with no dead people involved)

@opiumextract2934 2 жыл бұрын

I work for a major class 1 here in the USA, drops (gravity, Dutch) are only allowed in certain spots where no other option exist. They are rare to do anymore, ive done maybe 3 total in 20 years. They used to do them a lot more..but...safety

@CalebsCrossingsYT 2 жыл бұрын

This looks pog

@Happyarms123 2 жыл бұрын

I watched a video some time ago. A old one in black/white it show a "Training Video" for railroad employees, i guess. "Bundesbahn-Lehrfilme Rangierdienst" Its in german only, i doesnt know if its the same work in your country and was very interesting for me to see how it was back in time. In the old times gravity was used for shunting cause trains are very expensive and rare. So they shoved the cars over a slight hill and they run down and the station-worker had to stop them with stop blocks, no wagon break or something else. A high risk job i guess.

@owengilbert7418 2 жыл бұрын

I really did enjoy this game up until 2 days ago, Had a massive crash that sent 3 reports back to back. Forced me to restart my pc and now all my games lag and it wont even load up my 2nd monitor, its basically fried my gpu. I guess that's what happens with Alpha / Beta games. Watching you play this is now my only way to truly enjoy this game

@Roran27 2 жыл бұрын

Think you could do it with more carts: I don't know the numbers, but the engine brakes can brake for, let's say x fully loaded carts downhill. But the engine can carry x + y empty carts uphill which is more, than what it can carry downhill. So the gravity takes y carts and the engine takes x downhill, so you don't waste potential. You will need the engine afterwards anyways.

@kerrymangum4166 2 жыл бұрын

At the Smelter - you had 36 when the cars arrived. I thought that you missed one that fell at the steps on the 6th Ore Car (I believe) but none were missed on the drop since you had 106 at the end. I've watched it from both sides and Dapper's view is amazing. it added so much with the multiplayer gitters. There was a rail line that was gravity for I think it was 2 miles and the empties were taken back to the mine with mule teams sincde the company didn't own a loco. They did end up getting a locomotive to be more efficient.

@richardmoll5618 2 жыл бұрын

The Yosemite lumber company, at least I think that's what they were called, had multiple logging inclines. At like 12-30% grades. They would haul the cars up to the top using cables and counter weight system. The weight of the full log car would pull the empty car up. And when the car reached the bottom they would shunt the cars.

@zackclay440 2 жыл бұрын

Look up the documentary called "Full Steam Ahead", the first episode shows a gravity line. It's pretty cool. Love your videos, and I enjoy your shannanagins.

@Varjokissa 2 жыл бұрын

I have seen here, they did gravity like shunting. Engine first did pull longer car thing to slight uphill line and then they few cars in time rolled in to right shunting tracs. Like box cars to line 2 and flats to line 4, etc. (not really remember tracs or wagons but for an example.) Was thinking to do that in my railroads online world. :D

@lordsherifftakari4127 2 жыл бұрын

one item to improve Gravity running is to flip the last car around so both Handbrake Wheels are in one spot on the uphill side for better braking control. you could handily run a 10 car gravity run.

@GenXToysGeek 2 жыл бұрын

love this format, I already watched Dappers vid, now watching this

@GenXToysGeek 2 жыл бұрын

what could be a suggestion is to have eachother's vids after you split up picture in picture?

@imkiller84 2 жыл бұрын

That brakeman needs a raise. Lol

@thomasvanleeuwen5106 2 жыл бұрын

it could make sense to do a gravity line if you have a train that could bring up beams/planks and the empty mine cart. then you send the person to smelter via gravity and go fill up more wood while they empty the iron (leave Betsy there to push it back and forth during unload?). then once beams are loaded on the train you go pick up the empty ore carts and do it again.

@ab_railways_original 2 жыл бұрын

The gravity trains where mainly used in England at the the old slaight lines and mining lines

@eddingtonrailroading 11 ай бұрын

Ffestiniog Railway in Wales still runs gravity trains for recreational purposes

@happykadaver4447 2 жыл бұрын

If you have a ramp down where you load your cars it could be more efficient. At that point you can leave immediatly after you brought the cars and load the train using gravity.

@MIKI17008 2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@sajmonness 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations for not saying "First"

@MIKI17008 2 жыл бұрын

@@sajmonness thx

@matthewclark7885 2 жыл бұрын

Idk if it was the same video, but I saw one of a railroad with track similar to what you described, and the video then showed the same track some years later and it was all fixed "the rates are easier to manage" Just wait until you get to oil field and refinery

@firenutter1798 2 жыл бұрын

i relly was hopping for kans reaction to Hyces message XD

@clyde3013 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy!

@Menezia 2 жыл бұрын

WOW nice upload rate!

@Supp_Blue 2 жыл бұрын

blue

@ColdRiverAutowire 2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome to run for US president kAN, I’ll allow it.

@gabrielmagitingdungan9553 2 жыл бұрын

The slate miners use the narrow gauge gravity runs to get the slate down from the mine to a freight depo

@gman-ul7um 2 жыл бұрын

I love this more trains online

@mattevans4377 2 жыл бұрын

If you had an industry that produced two products on top of a hill, with two industries who wanted those products downhill, you could run two gravity trains at once instead of needing two engines.

@squarebodycasewademckenney6190 Жыл бұрын

So it's basicly like a "Hump" yard... (even tho those use friction from corners to slow down and not brakes)

@CathodeRayKobold 2 жыл бұрын

That was amazing to watch from both perspectives, but you really need to sync your edits for simultaneous watching next time.

@LSFord 2 жыл бұрын

You really just need 2 engines and 2 sets of cars and 1 person per train. You still just use gravity on the way down but then you still have the engine to get back to the top

@0121bdallan 2 жыл бұрын

I think the first railways used gravity for the downhill runs from the mines to the harbours and then horses would pull the carts back up again

@OvantheWise 2 жыл бұрын

They do gravity sorting of cars. CSX dose this in waycross Georgia I imagine you could find videos of that online.

@SternLX 2 жыл бұрын

We already saw Hyce's video with the "Fix Me -H" message.

@jakubmarciniszyn9423 2 жыл бұрын

after last episode I went to Hyce's channel and I saw the messege. So I know, and I am waiting, as everyone else ;)

@UBFBonVR 2 жыл бұрын

quote of the day " he made fun of my Kinks" -kAN

@matthewhoffman9242 2 жыл бұрын

Now the next go of this dapper needs 10 cars and you race him with the pumpjack train car

@a.graham5264 2 жыл бұрын

You need a track that is absolutely straight and straight down hill!

@flyingfox8360 2 жыл бұрын

take double the max containers empty. send the back half back when its full and drive the second half back. Double profit

@tstuart9148 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the ffestiniog line still do gravity trains your towed to the top of the line via a steam engine they do it for fun using fully loaded slate cars

@enoshchauhan3166 2 жыл бұрын

I think hyce has a chanel and everyone knows the "secret" message 😂🤣

@inotsmarty5700 2 жыл бұрын

@norliasmith 2 жыл бұрын

Better idea, make the lumber be 60.

@Veneno2911 2 жыл бұрын

They had gravity Slate trains in snowdonia in Wales

@jekanyika 2 жыл бұрын

Rails were invented before the steam engine, so all treks were powered by gravity at that point.

@afastree9756 Жыл бұрын

Yes the gravity trains were risen on

@raymarshall6721 2 жыл бұрын

lol we all know the message, there is no hiding it!

@danthiel8623 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

@kingboah6556 2 жыл бұрын

15:25 thanks to dapper loading is so much faster

@matterdaddy4764 2 жыл бұрын

Pssst... We already know the message... Lol.

@jameshansen1903 2 жыл бұрын

That oil car that rolled away by itself wasn't in Russia. That was just outside Walla Walla, Washington.

@samadkins6727 2 жыл бұрын

I know there's legit lines like that and it was more common back then but nowadays it's still used to just load cars like at a coal mine or something, not actual deliveries or lines but just dropping them to load the cars and stuff

@JBWeldist 2 жыл бұрын

I wanna see a gravity run from the coal mine because it would be cool

@brycehill6678 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda have to laugh how it's a "secret message" yet hyce has it shown on his video lol

@Artificial3109 2 жыл бұрын

nice vid

@Arty_The_Penguin 2 жыл бұрын

Some messages can only be imagined. They cannot be shown. Welcome to KZfaq Monetization.

@3DPDK 2 жыл бұрын

A gravity line doesn't seem to make sense because in this game we all pull into the industry yard, load and unload the goods and return back down the line. In the game, sending cars down the line on their own makes no sense because it leaves the engine at the top of the hill. In reality, an engine would be used to deliver a number of empty cars to the industry at the top of the hill, the engine would uncouple and go off to pull other trains elsewhere along the line. As the industry fills the cars, and understand that this actually takes a lot more time than the game simulates, the cars are then sent one or several at a time down the hill. This process could take several days or longer. When the industry runs out of empties, the transport company is notified and the empties waiting at the bottom of the hill are hauled back up to the top of the hill.

@seanputman1775 2 жыл бұрын

You could almost reconnect the engine to the car's at the Y.

@David-gk2ml 2 жыл бұрын

next do a 'slip coach'

@The_Gaming_Angel 2 жыл бұрын

Now i want to see the vid

@cablecar3683 Жыл бұрын

The brakemen used to ride these babies for miles

@McPatMan124 2 жыл бұрын

should have flipped the last car around so you have access to both breaks without moving

@Darkenrall1 2 жыл бұрын

I watched the two perspectives at the same time on two monitors, it would be nice if the video didn't have an editing cut, so the video would be synchronized. But I don't think the idea would work for everyone...