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blackpenredpen

blackpenredpen

7 жыл бұрын

What is i to the i-th power, namely i^i? Is it real? Is it possible to have imaginary^imaginary=real?
This is a classic complex numbers question and in fact i^i is real!
How about i^i^i? Check this out: • tetration of i^i^i = ?
Are you wondering about (a+bi)^(c+di) now? Here's the video • the tetration of (1+i)...
#blackpenredpen #math #complexnumbers
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@TheUnlocked
@TheUnlocked 7 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this instead of doing math homework.
@mishikookropiridze
@mishikookropiridze 6 жыл бұрын
same :D
@Jj-or5ix
@Jj-or5ix 6 жыл бұрын
Angel's Of Revelation , tf
@amirmazor3670
@amirmazor3670 5 жыл бұрын
We all
@Wild4lon
@Wild4lon 5 жыл бұрын
This is better than homework
@clyde__cruz1
@clyde__cruz1 5 жыл бұрын
Way better
@kfftfuftur
@kfftfuftur 6 жыл бұрын
Euler had a hard time understanding negative numbers, but with complex numbers he is just fine.
@pettanshrimpnazunasapostle1992
@pettanshrimpnazunasapostle1992 3 жыл бұрын
He had a hard time with negatives since he was a positive person ;)
@georgegkoumas5026
@georgegkoumas5026 2 жыл бұрын
It was just that his personality made him look for the root of what he didn't understand.
@HanzCastroyearsago
@HanzCastroyearsago 2 жыл бұрын
Imao
@louisyama9145
@louisyama9145 Жыл бұрын
You could say he was a complex person
@SteelHorseRider74
@SteelHorseRider74 Жыл бұрын
​@@louisyama9145 so he was an i person ^_^
@lP41N
@lP41N 5 жыл бұрын
Another simple way to get the same result: We know that: e^iπ = - 1 (e^iπ)^1/2 = (-1)^1/2 e^i(π/2) = i So if we raise to the i power we get: e^(-π/2) = i^i :)
@xjetfirex3956
@xjetfirex3956 5 жыл бұрын
Got the same thing when tried to solve it ;)
@GarGlingT
@GarGlingT 5 жыл бұрын
Pi/2 radian is already i vector.
@divyajyotibose5769
@divyajyotibose5769 5 жыл бұрын
It's the first thing that struck me
@albertstern3006
@albertstern3006 4 жыл бұрын
e^i(π/2+2nπ) is always i So the other solutions are: i^i=e^-(π/2+2nπ)
@TyroneSteele
@TyroneSteele 4 жыл бұрын
Me too :)
@pneujai
@pneujai 3 жыл бұрын
me: i is complex my English teacher: no "i AM complex"
@nilsastrup8907
@nilsastrup8907 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@empty3293
@empty3293 2 жыл бұрын
bruhther
@easds7881
@easds7881 2 жыл бұрын
@@damuddohonson2282 wtf
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 2 жыл бұрын
*I (capital i)
@nightytime
@nightytime 2 жыл бұрын
@@damuddohonson2282 bro…
@iaagoarielschwoelklobo6342
@iaagoarielschwoelklobo6342 7 жыл бұрын
0:03 My friends when I talk about mathmatics
@tcocaine
@tcocaine 7 жыл бұрын
This is so accurate!
@still_have_chaos
@still_have_chaos 7 жыл бұрын
IAAGO ARIEL SCHWOELK LOBO relatable
@subinmdr
@subinmdr 7 жыл бұрын
Same here 😂😂
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
IAAGO ARIEL SCHWOELK LOBO sadly I have to agree too. This made me laugh so hard lollllll
@scitwi9164
@scitwi9164 7 жыл бұрын
They don't run away if you have the seed ;> (And yes, I'm speaking metaphorically right now ;> )
@potatopassingby
@potatopassingby 7 жыл бұрын
blackshirtredshirt :D
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
it is!
@coc235
@coc235 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Isn't it?
@padoraye
@padoraye 5 жыл бұрын
Redchalkwhitechalk
@uselessiSpace
@uselessiSpace 5 жыл бұрын
@Fred The Llama yes
@itsuki_jeff
@itsuki_jeff 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@ammarbarbhaiwala9908
@ammarbarbhaiwala9908 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I just watched this video yesterday and it came in my mathematics exam today Nobody but me solved it
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Nice!!!!!!
@ammarbarbhaiwala9908
@ammarbarbhaiwala9908 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Thanks In love your Videos
@justarandomdudelol7702
@justarandomdudelol7702 3 жыл бұрын
@אהבה יהוה not sure what you’re trying to express when your workings are clearly wrong
@gpgp
@gpgp 2 жыл бұрын
Nice hahaha
@poteresurreale5781
@poteresurreale5781 2 жыл бұрын
@@justarandomdudelol7702 why?
@JJ_-fp9sj
@JJ_-fp9sj 4 жыл бұрын
This absolute madlad pulled out another blackboard from the ceiling. Most badass thing I've ever seen on a math class
@anglaismoyen
@anglaismoyen Жыл бұрын
You'd love the MIT open course ware videos.
@rohithsai3570
@rohithsai3570 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this while I am in a movie theatre.
@eduardvanbeeck9539
@eduardvanbeeck9539 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man I love your videos, the way you explain the problems and also how much you enjoy it all! Keep up the great work!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Eduard Van Beeck thank you!!!!!
@JotaFaD
@JotaFaD 7 жыл бұрын
Another very similar way to get to the same result, but without using ln: i^i = ? But, i = 0 + 1i = cos(t) + sin(t)i t = pi/2 (or pi/2 + 2*pi*k) solves the equation. So, i = e^it i = e^(i*pi/2) i^i = [e^(i*pi/2)]^i i^i = e^[(i^2)*pi/2] i^i = e^(-pi/2)
@xgplayer
@xgplayer 7 жыл бұрын
if you use de polar form you get the same answer right away: ( e^( i*(pi/2+2pi•n) ) )^i = e^(-pi/2-2pi•n)
@gmtutoriais6519
@gmtutoriais6519 7 жыл бұрын
Much simpler
@dox1755
@dox1755 7 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOK I Have mooore easier than that. Now. e^pi*i=-1 -1 is i^2 so than equal it e^pi*i=i^2 than multiplye the powers by i/2 e^-pi/2=i^i LOOOOOL
@Mrwiseguy101690
@Mrwiseguy101690 6 жыл бұрын
+Alper Berkin Yazici Slow clap
@hach1koko
@hach1koko 6 жыл бұрын
José Paulo I don't think that's well justified. With that logic, you could also say : e^(i5pi/2)=i (true) e^(-5pi/2)=i^i We would end up with e^(-5pi/2)=e^(-pi/2), which is obviously false...
@bl_ninjat9012
@bl_ninjat9012 2 жыл бұрын
why is the title crying?
@meme_engineering4521
@meme_engineering4521 6 жыл бұрын
I am just getting addicted to this channel
@gregg4
@gregg4 7 жыл бұрын
"Hopefully this makes everybody happy." (10:04) This is the internet! It is mathematically impossible to make everybody happy.
@spiguy
@spiguy 5 жыл бұрын
*physically
@Hydrastic-bz5qm
@Hydrastic-bz5qm 5 жыл бұрын
@@spiguy theoretically*
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hydrastic-bz5qm all of the above*
@user9287p
@user9287p 5 жыл бұрын
@@shayanmoosavi9139 *Under the assumption that all possibilities are random, I would concur to the previous comment before me.
@aasyjepale5210
@aasyjepale5210 5 жыл бұрын
@@es-rh8oo psychedelically*
@boband75
@boband75 4 жыл бұрын
I like the back stories you provide, and your logic and steps are very easy to follow!! Please keep this channel alive, watch it every day! It’s great for my engineering students too.
@Timelaser001
@Timelaser001 6 жыл бұрын
6:50: 'You know this is a real number. So real." XD
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
: )
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
LOL XD but do you know that complex numbers are also as real as other numbers?
@istudy2194
@istudy2194 4 жыл бұрын
@@shayanmoosavi9139 complex numbers aren't real They are just helpers for complicated mathematics
@istudy2194
@istudy2194 4 жыл бұрын
@@shayanmoosavi9139 our school teacher said that when you go for math major, you study about symtots or whatever its called Lines that seem to intersect but don't since they aren't real. (They don't exist) Just as i^i is Real but I isnt, it further explains complex numbers as an expander of mathematics
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 4 жыл бұрын
@@istudy2194 the word you're looking for is asymptote. We say the function asymptomaticaly approach a value when it gets really close to that value (its idea is connected to limits). For example the function f(x)=1/x asymptomaticaly approaches 0 as x increases but it'll never reach 0. A similar concept is convergence. This concept is used in infinite sums (aka series). Now let's get to the main point. Numbers are just tools. None of them are real. They're just concepts. That's it. Let me explain with an example. What is "2" exactly? And I don't mean that you show me 2 fingers. Explain to me what 2 is _without_ referring to any physical object. We _invented_ numbers because of necessity. Our most basic need was how to count so we invented natural numbers. Then as we advanced and developed complex (no pun intended) economic systems we needed to keep the records of debt so we invented the negative numbers (ancient civilizations like China used negative numbers for debt). I think you get the idea. As we advance our needs get more complex (pun intended) so we invented complex numbers to help us. They're very helpful. They're used for modeling different phenomena. You'll find them in electrical engineering (they're used for modeling the signals), quantum mechanics (for modeling the wave equation) and almost everywhere else. The conclusion is numbers are very helpful tools and they're just a concept. They're not "real" (pun intended).
@christiansmakingmusic777
@christiansmakingmusic777 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the efforts you make in complex algebra calculations. Many people get beat down with endless calculation but few ever tell them there are calculations that no human can do, so don’t get discouraged. Just increase your focus and attention span over time. I’ve had professors who would assign us twenty 3x3 matrix inverse problems to be done by next week, but couldn’t do one on the board without making ten arithmetic mistakes.
@shoaibmohammed3707
@shoaibmohammed3707 6 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why some people dislike your videos. Honestly, the work you do is amazing. It's very understandable and really nice! Thank you so much!
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 4 жыл бұрын
"5" is a complex number: a knuckle sandwich is lunch.
@markojozic3944
@markojozic3944 7 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about your videos is that they are very calm and relaxing. And your enthusiasm cancels out the boredom :D
@samiam9235
@samiam9235 6 жыл бұрын
If I've learned anything, it's always have a pokeball ready. Just in case.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@chengme
@chengme Жыл бұрын
you have a great personality, plus you are doing great, love it!
@mike4ty4
@mike4ty4 7 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, a few other values of i^i are: 0.00000072494725159879381083665824397412631261... 0.00038820320392676624723252989870142711787... 0.20787957635076190854695561983497877003... (this is the one in the video) 111.31777848985622602684100793298884317... 59609.741492872155884501380729500106645... The all lie along the exponential curve y = e^(-pi/2 + 2pix). But only where x is an integer, does that curve represent a value of i^i.
@tannerzuleeg1229
@tannerzuleeg1229 7 жыл бұрын
111.31777848985622602684100793298884317 = e^(3pi/2) which means ln(111.31777848985622602684100793298884317)=3pi/2 59609.741492872155884501380729500106645 = e^(7pi/2) which means ln(59609.741492872155884501380729500106645)= 7pi/2 Using radians as exponents on e, you can equate the powers of i if they are imaginary. Obviously x=0 in your example (making it i^i) So when you graph it, I think the first of an infinity of y intercepts would have to be e^(-pi/2). every time you add 2npi (n=integer) you get another intercept. I could be wrong.
@victorj9582
@victorj9582 4 жыл бұрын
This is how I did it: Rewrite i^i in terms of e and natural log: i^i = e^ln(i^i) Bring the "i" power to the front: = e^(i*ln(i)) Also bring the 1/2 power from the "i" to the front: = e^(i/2*ln(-1)) We know ln(-1) is equal to πi according to Euler's formula; e^πi = -1; therefore, πi = ln(-1) = e^(i/2*πi) Bring πi to the numerator which will result in i^2 which is equal to -1: = e^(-π/2) The end.
@Rzko
@Rzko Жыл бұрын
you use over-complicated things assuming easier things that are enough to have the solution. There is absolutely no need to use the complex log.
@esu7116
@esu7116 7 жыл бұрын
i^i=e^(iπ/2)^i=e^(-π/2) done.
@psibarpsi
@psibarpsi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That's exactly what I did.
@estelle_chenxing
@estelle_chenxing 3 жыл бұрын
...
@godeffroydemontmirail3661
@godeffroydemontmirail3661 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's all. Very simple in fact 😁
@esu7116
@esu7116 3 жыл бұрын
@אהבה יהוה wtf? I wish you could have constructive comment.
@quaji1
@quaji1 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible to simplify the second part and skip everything from 7:01 until 11:10 by stating that "i" in polar coordinates is r=1 and theta=pi/2+2pn (and not just theta=pi/2) and using the same formula.
@estebancanizales3303
@estebancanizales3303 7 жыл бұрын
You're great ive never seen these mathematics and you help me piece it all together
@WhitEagle7
@WhitEagle7 7 жыл бұрын
great sir, you just blew my mind with your interesting videos! I have never really thought about some things that you have shown.
@philologo8323
@philologo8323 3 жыл бұрын
I only barely put my toe into the water of mathematics, and these just encourage me to dive in! Keep up the awesome content!
@victorkkariuki
@victorkkariuki 6 жыл бұрын
I really love the accent.. As a bilingual myself, it feels so awesome to have the ability to switch anytime and speak a different language. Come to think of it, I am definitely multilingual
@KarelSeeuwen
@KarelSeeuwen 7 жыл бұрын
You're a credit to the human race. Keep up the good work. [Edit] ++ I just read some of the comments regarding the multiple solutions police incident. The importance of making mistakes cannot be understated. I for one walked away from this video with the message that thinking is far more important than wrote learning. How the hell else are we going to make progress in this world people.
@RealUlrichLeland
@RealUlrichLeland 6 жыл бұрын
This is probably the only bit of enjoyably vaguely complicated maths that I have ever understood. Good video, well explained. Don't listen to people who say that your accent makes you hard to understand, I found it a lot more comprehensible than many people with English as their first language.
@lmmartinez97
@lmmartinez97 7 жыл бұрын
It's such a same that you have to be so careful in order to not offend the internet police and avoid the bullshit they can put out. You transmit passion about what you do and seem to genuinely love math, but some people just have too much free time and they look for every tiny informalities so they can whine about something they probably wouldn't do themselves. I know it's not my responsibility, but I do apologise for it. Please, keep making these videos.
@Ounaide
@Ounaide 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, what are you talking about ? Sounds like I missed something here
@grogcito
@grogcito 7 жыл бұрын
Luis Miguel Martinez he named the imaginary axis "complex axis" on his sin(z)=2 video
@Hepad_
@Hepad_ 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but many math people would consider his answer false or at least incomplete if he didn't talk about the 2pi modulo
@RomeForWar
@RomeForWar 7 жыл бұрын
My prof in University wouldn't let you pass an exam if you ignored multiple solutions to a problem. Some people can be annoyingly pedantic, but it's also true that when doing maths you should always be as complete in your proof / answer as you can be.
@ulilulable
@ulilulable 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, while I agree with Luis in most cases regarding the damnable internet PC thought police offense stealing nonsense, when (and possibly only when) it comes to mathematics and logic, strictness is essential. I would think and hope that blackpenredpen also knows this and won't get discouraged by mathematical corrections. :)
@fNktn
@fNktn 7 жыл бұрын
You can skip the whole ln transformation part by substituting i = e^ai, with a = pi/2 in this case, to get (e^i*pi/2)^i which is of course equal to e^-pi/2
@ilkinond
@ilkinond 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, my friend. You're as close to a star as it's possible for a mathematician to be!
@hvtrbjuhftg
@hvtrbjuhftg 6 жыл бұрын
These are fantastic videos - so clearly explained! Thanks a lot!!
@LightYagami-el3ft
@LightYagami-el3ft 5 жыл бұрын
Another way is i^i = x Square both sides (-1)^i = x² Now put e^ipi = -1, we get the final answer as e^(-pi/2)
@oualidezzoubeidi1149
@oualidezzoubeidi1149 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! would also work if we just replace i with e^i(pi/2) then basically i^i would become e^(-pi/2)
@Aizistral
@Aizistral 7 ай бұрын
What an absolutely fascinating result! I actually needed this answer for one of my works 👀
@Ahuizotl_Yolotl
@Ahuizotl_Yolotl 5 жыл бұрын
I like simple titles, straightforward explanations and watching math videos at 6 AM... basically i like watching your videos when i'm eating my breakfast xD
@KennyMccormicklul
@KennyMccormicklul 4 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen: right? me:
@tomdanub4231
@tomdanub4231 4 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@vancecollie6833
@vancecollie6833 7 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, whenever you add 2(pi) for each additional rotation, wouldn't the e's exponent eventually approach some sort of limit? In that case, could we find some sort of infinite sum that could give us another definition of i^i since you could theoretically have any amount of infinite rotations when considering this problem? Regardless, great video! Thank you for teaching me something!
@hefesan
@hefesan 2 жыл бұрын
The limit is just 0, but the infinite sum converges at about 0.00038
@raymond9588
@raymond9588 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, I like your videos a lot. Although I am not a chinese speaker, I understand everything that you say in terms both of English and the maths!
@barbiefan3874
@barbiefan3874 4 жыл бұрын
you could write i(base) in exponential form which would be e^(iπ/2) and then rise it to i'th power which would be (e^(iπ/2)^i) and then multiply the exponents: e^(i*iπ/2) = e^(-π/2) i think that would be a lot easier then calculate the ln(i)
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 6 жыл бұрын
And now I just realized that Matt Parker is who introduced me to this channel. I'd been wondering how I found you.
@ProCoderIO
@ProCoderIO 3 жыл бұрын
I learn about it from 3Blue1Brown
@abhijitprajapati3764
@abhijitprajapati3764 2 жыл бұрын
i just found the channel randomly
@vibhanshuvaibhav2168
@vibhanshuvaibhav2168 5 жыл бұрын
This is what I did.. Let i^i = t log(i^i) = log t ilogi = log t Now, e^iπ/2 = i So, log(i) = iπ/2 Then, log t = i^2π/2 = -π/2 Hence, t = e^-π/2 = i^i
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
That's when we already know what is ln(i). He did the same thing but he also explained what is the ln of a complex number. Also I think you made a mistake in the second last line. It should be ln(t)=i.iπ/2=-π/2 log notation is confusing because it's the logarithm with the base 10. If you mean natural logarithm use ln instead. I know some of the math tools like MATLAB use log for natural logarithm and log10 for base 10 logarithm but we use ln in standard notation.
@eyalmeltser4296
@eyalmeltser4296 7 жыл бұрын
!!!Holy crap I wrote to you about i ^ i two days ago! thanks for the video and keep up the good work
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
eyal meltser yea. In fact I had this video recorded last week already but just uploaded yesterday
@uberswine
@uberswine Жыл бұрын
Well, this is the most epic redemption ark I've ever seen! Thank you for your videos, I watch them with awe in my heart
@wilhelmt.muller170
@wilhelmt.muller170 4 жыл бұрын
complex to the power of complex: Exist GER: YOU WILL NEVER BE REAL
@sobianiaz30
@sobianiaz30 5 жыл бұрын
There was no need to add 2*pi*n in the original angle theta because by definition of coterminal angles Theta+(2*pi*n )=Theta.
@Imperio_Otomano_the_realest
@Imperio_Otomano_the_realest 2 жыл бұрын
it's sort of wrong, but θ needs to be defined as π/2 + 2πn
@waterdragonlucas8263
@waterdragonlucas8263 2 жыл бұрын
You explained this PERFECTLY!!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
@emree5962
@emree5962 4 жыл бұрын
How can you keep adding 2pi? Is the formula not valid for -pi
@Sovic91
@Sovic91 3 жыл бұрын
Me, after seeing the thumbnail: "I don't need sleep. I need answers"
@steffssnapshots
@steffssnapshots 3 жыл бұрын
xDD
@ReubenMason99
@ReubenMason99 7 жыл бұрын
One of the following: i^i, (i^i)^2i is real. Same proof as irrational^irrational
@xgplayer
@xgplayer 7 жыл бұрын
is i irrational?
@TheUpriseConvention
@TheUpriseConvention 7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Garcia It's irrational, as you can't put it in the form a/b where a and b are integers; the definition of a rational number.
@Gold161803
@Gold161803 7 жыл бұрын
TheUpriseConvention Gaussian integers are complex numbers z for which Re(z) and Im(z) are both integers. I imagine there's an analogous definition for a Gaussian rational. I've never seen this in practice though, so I can't be sure. Doesn't matter though, since rationality plays no role in the original commenter's argument
@Cannongabang
@Cannongabang 7 жыл бұрын
You are right i^i is either complex non real or real If it is real we are done If it is complex non real, (i^i)^(2i) = i^(-2) = -1 so we are done. Cool one. But I'm still not too sure if exponentiation of complex numbers is "well defined"
@xamzx9281
@xamzx9281 7 жыл бұрын
Reuben Mason i^i is real, i=e^(i*pi/2), i^i=e^(i*pi*i/2)=e^(-pi/2)=real
@nickcunningham6344
@nickcunningham6344 2 жыл бұрын
The tricks you use to reach a solution are so clever they feel illegal. I love it
@Quadratic4mula
@Quadratic4mula 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. It helps relax my depression. Especially for the short time while I watch the video. :)
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@Miguelista1000 6 жыл бұрын
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@DashRevoTV
@DashRevoTV 6 жыл бұрын
*always
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@borisdorofeev5602 6 жыл бұрын
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@goodplacetostart9099
@goodplacetostart9099 5 жыл бұрын
Violets are blue ! Great
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@2tri749 5 жыл бұрын
Then just FIND YOUR PASSION AND WORK HARD ON IT. Success will follow you! :)
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@phorinzyx2866 5 жыл бұрын
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@harshit3964
@harshit3964 3 жыл бұрын
He is holding an additional brain in his hand that is giving him extraordinary powers to solve problems ! 😂
@luxaeterna5281
@luxaeterna5281 Жыл бұрын
I'm not good at maths, but the simple fact that i^i seems a little face crying made me figure a thing or two before watching
@ajwylie4423
@ajwylie4423 7 жыл бұрын
supreme and math have come together. i'm satisfied. subscribed.
@michaelc.4321
@michaelc.4321 5 жыл бұрын
I read the thumbnail as 1^(-i)
@Sid-ix5qr
@Sid-ix5qr 6 жыл бұрын
10:17 Where's my Math Teacher?
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 4 жыл бұрын
You end up with *multiple* real numbers. Awesome as always! Mind stretching.
@wishbone7410
@wishbone7410 5 жыл бұрын
quite clever man. he speaks English so well as well as teaches us math so well. please continue till the end of universe.
@mattgillespie6457
@mattgillespie6457 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have a major in Mathematics? Also great video. I'm planning to do engineering with a possible math minor for fun/ semi-practical uses. This channel has helped me find a passion:)
@tcocaine
@tcocaine 7 жыл бұрын
Same. very interesting problems indeed, and as a norwegian high school student, I'm learning MASSIVELY from it. Learning imaginary numbers before even being taught it, is benefitial.
@Ounaide
@Ounaide 7 жыл бұрын
He is a math teacher
@tcocaine
@tcocaine 7 жыл бұрын
+Ouanide That's not an answer to his question.
@Ounaide
@Ounaide 7 жыл бұрын
TheDucklets I don't recall ever talking to you.
@tcocaine
@tcocaine 7 жыл бұрын
So what? I can still correct you.
@bloodyadaku
@bloodyadaku 7 жыл бұрын
Since we know that e^(iπ) = -1 and i = √(-1) couldn't we just substitute the i in the base with √(e^(iπ)) so that i^i = e^(iπ)^(1/2)^i ? And then from there you just multiply the powers in the exponents so you have e^(i*iπ/2) = e^(-π/2)
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony 7 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. But I guess that then we wouldn't have some fun with complex logarithms :q
@thatwhichislearnt751
@thatwhichislearnt751 2 жыл бұрын
You are using (a^b)^c=a^(bc), which is not true, in general. You learned this rule for reals and positive base, but it fails for many examples with complex numbers. Therefore, multiplying the exponents is an improper argumentation.
@vincentsmyang
@vincentsmyang Жыл бұрын
@@thatwhichislearnt751 Could you give an example?
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic 8 ай бұрын
Pi is like that friend that pops in at the most random times just to say hello.
@polychats5990
@polychats5990 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, Euler's formula makes so much more sense now that I've seen a way that it can be used!!!
@leoneschle3112
@leoneschle3112 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it crazy, if you think about it? You have one expression, i^i, but it has infinitely many values! It's like a Super-Schrödinger's cat!
@AndrewErwin73
@AndrewErwin73 7 жыл бұрын
I love it... "this will cause a lot of arguments in the comment section..."
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 3 жыл бұрын
No pigeons were injured in the filming of this video.
@dayzimlich
@dayzimlich 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! I enjoyed it!
@holymotherduck3636
@holymotherduck3636 4 жыл бұрын
complex^complexe = real ? mmmhhh i don't know, this seems kinda complex to me...
@chatherinehu3804
@chatherinehu3804 5 жыл бұрын
I have a easier way to solve it you can express in the r e (angle) form
@franckdebruijn3530
@franckdebruijn3530 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the video (as I like all of them). This one kept me wondering though that a simple power-operation can lead to multiple results. In the Real domain, this does not happen, or does it? We do not say that 9^(1/2) is 3 or -3, but is really 3. It always gets me confused. Since, when solving quadratic equations and applying the square-root operation then we do want to keep track of the possibility that the square-root of a number can also be the negative counterpart ...
@williamtachyon2630
@williamtachyon2630 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interesting videos! :) Just found them. I remember when I first encountered that problem. At first I thought it just can't be real..
@oenrn
@oenrn 4 жыл бұрын
So, something imaginary, when given imaginary power, becomes real? Cool!
@abdullahpatel2612
@abdullahpatel2612 3 жыл бұрын
Wow nice way to sum it up
@John----Smith
@John----Smith 6 жыл бұрын
great teacher, and your english is good.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@luniacllama8373
@luniacllama8373 4 жыл бұрын
Very popular concept in complex numbers for jee! Great explanation!
@ItIsMeTime123
@ItIsMeTime123 4 жыл бұрын
clicked for the smoothie watched for the problem stayed for the explanation
@AhmeddIbrahim
@AhmeddIbrahim 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain how he got pi/2 for the angle at 5:50
@kristofersokk1580
@kristofersokk1580 7 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Ibrahim theta is the angle, for "i" it is 90 degrees, aka pi/2 radians
@scitwi9164
@scitwi9164 7 жыл бұрын
We measure the angles with regard to the direction of the unit (the number `1`), which is assumed to be at the angle `0` radians. Then you measure the rotation of that unit, counter-clockwise. E.g. the number `-1` is at the angle 180° or `π` radians to the unit. The imaginary unit `i` is half-way there, because it is a unit perpendicular to `1`, so it is at the angle `π/2` to the unit (or 90° if you prefer degrees).
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 6 жыл бұрын
Radianes are the unit of choice when dealing with the complex plane. 360° degrees (a full revolution) equals 2Pi, from there it´s just algebra
@weeseonghew2
@weeseonghew2 5 жыл бұрын
in radian form π is basically a equivalent of 180 degree, hence, π/2 is basically 90 degrees
@goodplacetostart9099
@goodplacetostart9099 5 жыл бұрын
In imaginary axes angles change e^πi=e^180i. ....(1) π=180(in imaginary axes) π/2=90 You can check equation (1) in Wolfram Alpha Computational Intelligence
@morganmitchell4017
@morganmitchell4017 7 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering for a while. What age group do you teach? I understand most your videos, but not the second order differential equations or the more complicated series
@maxguichard4337
@maxguichard4337 5 жыл бұрын
I think he just does what he finds interesting/ what is recommended.
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
Second order differential equation is taught in university. We're learning them right now. In order to know what is a diffrential equation you should first learn calculus. You should know derivatives and integrals. An n'th order differential equation is : F(x,y,y',y'',...,y^(n))=0 Which means an expression of x, y which is a function of x, y' which is the derivative of y with respect to x, y'' which is the second derivative of y with respect to x,...,y^(n) which is the n' th derivative of y with respect to x. (n should *only* be in parentheses so as not to get confused with powers). An example is y+y''=0. I really don't want to get into details because I don't know your mathematics background. Hope that helped.
@saultube44
@saultube44 7 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, thank you. please make more interesting Integrals and math curiosities on video :)
@ianboard544
@ianboard544 4 жыл бұрын
I used to ask this as an interview question for EEs. It's pretty easy if you go back to first principles.
@6359
@6359 6 жыл бұрын
"2 pi n or 2 n pi, up to you" I always write n 2 pi, I feel excluded
@giovannipelissero1886
@giovannipelissero1886 3 жыл бұрын
In Italy we write +2kpi, I know: k is the Satan's son.
@karryy01
@karryy01 3 жыл бұрын
In vietnam we write k2π.
@robertandersson1128
@robertandersson1128 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we write exactly the same in Sweden: n*2π
@huangkuantun
@huangkuantun 5 жыл бұрын
what did i see at the beginning???
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
: )
@chikitabanane9086
@chikitabanane9086 2 жыл бұрын
i swear that you're a genius... My brain has justed been over used at the end
@ashishpastay8711
@ashishpastay8711 5 жыл бұрын
This can be done in more easier way... Since, we know that e^(iπ)=(-1) e^(iπ)=i^2 Taking natural log on both sides iπ=2*ln(i) Multiplying (-i) on both sides, (π/2)=ln(¡^-i) Taking exponential on both sides e^(π/2)=i^-i Multiplying (-1) to the power s on both sides (i^i)=e^(-π/2)... Thankyou.
@1_1bman
@1_1bman 7 жыл бұрын
try irrational^rational = rational^irrational
@MuffinsAPlenty
@MuffinsAPlenty 7 жыл бұрын
That's a fun one! How about this: sqrt(3)^4 = 2^(log2(9))
@marcs9451
@marcs9451 6 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to know How much is i^e
@guktefngrshoo7465
@guktefngrshoo7465 4 жыл бұрын
call me daddy that’s alt right imagery you got as a profile pic. Get help, please. I love you
@SpeakMouthWords
@SpeakMouthWords 3 жыл бұрын
a kind of ugly complex number somewhere between -1 and -i on the unit circle in complex space
@jhonpaulsillar178
@jhonpaulsillar178 3 жыл бұрын
You truly are a master in mathematics. Keep it up
@adityashivam3066
@adityashivam3066 Жыл бұрын
You can calculate i^ any power using rotations Multiplying by i mean π/2 rotation So i^n is simply nπ/2 rotation Which would be equal to e^inπ/2 i^i = e^iiπ/2 = 1/√e^π
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 7 жыл бұрын
2npi=two senpai. there can only be one senpai, therefore 2npi is the incorrect form.
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
He's Chinese so your joke doesn't work😂😂😂 But nice try though you made my day. Thanks :)
@ShanksLeRoux_1
@ShanksLeRoux_1 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make a Kouhai joke. But it's all still imaginary.
@oferzilberman5049
@oferzilberman5049 4 жыл бұрын
sin(π)
@bhavyajain638
@bhavyajain638 3 жыл бұрын
Another senpai is from complex world.
@oldfire3107
@oldfire3107 7 жыл бұрын
Simpler proof: e^(i*pi/2)= cos(pi/2) + i*sin(pi/2) e^(i*pi/2) = i e^(I*pi/2*I) = i^i
@Mrwiseguy101690
@Mrwiseguy101690 6 жыл бұрын
+JT He used Euler's formula to derive an alternate definition of i. i = cos(pi/2) + isin(pi/2). This is an elementary definition that is easy to derive if you understand Euler's formula and the complex plane. It is most certainly a proof.
@hearueszueke6206
@hearueszueke6206 7 жыл бұрын
Hello blackpenredpen! I really like your videos! make more about complex numbers ;-), but also some more complex one (badam, tsss)
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Ok! I will see what I can do!
@weerman44
@weerman44 7 жыл бұрын
Cool man! I really enjoy these videos!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@liliacfury
@liliacfury 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm pretty much a 13 year old and can kinda follow whats going on here. I love how you teach!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Yay!!!
@federicovolpe3389
@federicovolpe3389 5 жыл бұрын
Yash 2223 I’m 14 and I can follow, having watched a lot of videos and having read a bit over the argument.
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
@@yashuppot3214 the idiot one is you who think that children can't learn complicated concepts. If it's explained correctly then even a six year old will get it.
@crunchamuncha
@crunchamuncha 7 жыл бұрын
As n gets bigger, i^i approaches 0. How is that possible? Could you explain why it happens?
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony 7 жыл бұрын
Because the exponent is negative, so this is basically 1 over something. And if that something (the denominator) gets bigger, then `1` is being divided into more and more pieces, which gets smaller and smaller, along with the entire fraction, until they vanish at 0.
@crunchamuncha
@crunchamuncha 7 жыл бұрын
Bon Bon yeah, I understand that. But my question is how is it possible for i^i to have different values for different values of n.
@bonbonpony
@bonbonpony 7 жыл бұрын
+crunchamuncha My friend will be making a series of videos on complex numbers soon, and this question will be explained there too. I'll let you know. If you have any other questions regarding complex numbers, something that you always wanted to know, or that bothered you, or that was hard for you to understand, feel free to ask it here, I'll send those questions to my friend so that he could explain them too in his videos and make them more useful to people ;)
@jidma
@jidma 7 жыл бұрын
yeah I have that same question: if for any integer k i^i = e^(-pi/2 + 2*k*pi) then for k=0 : i^i = e^(-pi/2) and for k=1: i^i = e^(-pi/2 + 2*pi) which means: e^(-pi/2) = e^(-pi/2 + 2*pi) e^(-pi/2) = e^(-pi/2).e^(2*pi) 1 = e^(2*pi) and that is not true... how did that happen?
@jidma
@jidma 7 жыл бұрын
+Bon Bon I received a notification about a reply from you but I can't find your reply here.. weired
@sidali9057
@sidali9057 Жыл бұрын
We can simply use the Moiver's formula i = i. sin(π/2) = e^i(π/2) i^i = [e^i(π/2)]^i = e^(-π/2)
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