This idea works really good on a fender strat...just roll the pinky around the volume knob and you can make some really nice swells and sustains...

@goldwinger4356 I wish my 71 shobud had a volume knob. That's why I have to use a volume pedal. The way I described is pretty much how most guys set their volume pedals for pedal steel. We also keep our amps close to change the volume on the amp sitting down lol.

Thank you for your input, very interesting indeed. This is exactly what the comment section is for. I have seen the Duesenbergs around and I was very tempted to buy one of theirs but as I am completely new to the Lap Steel I decided to go for a less expensive alternative. Really interesting what you said about the 6th bender, I mean I would love to have 6 benders, that would be awesome! I’m quite happy with the Gretsch although I might swap pickups and go for a humbucker. The single coil sounds sweet but I played my first gig using the Lap Steel a couple of days ago and got a lot of hum out of the single coil. One day I will upgrade for sure and either go for a Duesenberg or even a Pedal Steel. Thank you for watching ☺️🙏

@@Kbald You might also like this, kind Sir. One of the Greatest multi-bender SG players. His name is Luke Goetze. And after he got his Deusenberg a while; he added a 3rd Bender; on the 1st string. It lowers the D to Db(C#). And that gives him several more chords; that he was not able to get before. Here's the link to see him using all 3 benders. I could listen to it all day. i believe you would enjoy it also. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gd-Zgdhzvdmycps.html

He is a great player. I have actually been following him for a while and love his playing.

Great,Heartfelt Comment....God Bless you ,Sir..............

Thank you for making these awesome benders 🙏☺️ Glad you enjoyed the video.

I also picked up the benders recently. They are fantastic!

Thank you man ☺️ It really helps to have a lot of guitar experience but then Troy Brenningmeyer’s channel was a great help when I was getting into playing the lap steel.

Hey Don, thanks for the tip 👌☺️ I will definitely post an update video in a few months when I have found my way around playing the lap steel.

You contradict yourself in the same sentence. The volume down on the pedal IS the full volume that will give the attack on the strings - which you advise AGAINST in order to get ‘attack on the strings’. This player is using volume swell (also called violin technique). Learn the correct terminology before asserting nonsense dressed in funk.

@@johnr.b.murray3417 I take it to mean "with the volume turned all the way down". And what Don wrote _isn't_ nonsense. Picking with a little volume before increasing the volume is far better than picking with the volume turned right down.

@@ParaBellum2024 I suggest you go and try, or buy, a volume pedal to see how it works before getting tongue twisted. Listen: The full volume IS DOWN. ...and again: The FULL VOLUME ... IS... DOWN. When the pedal is UP... NO VOLUME. PEDAL UP= NO VOLUME. If you pick a string while the pedal is UP there will be NO ATTACK because? Yep... because NO VOLUME. BUT... if you pick a string while the pedal is up and then lower the pedal to more or FULL VOLUME then you will get a VIOLIN EFFECT as it simulates the violin bow, which GRADUALLY builds in volume. So to recap: Don says: “You’ll hear a better pedal steel effect if we can hear the attack of the pick on the strings”... which he suggests is while the pedal is UP, and hence NO to little volume, which is wrong and I’m I’m sure he now realises that fact. I’m sure he was confusing the mechanical stretch of the string as in VIBRATO rather than the volume amplitude which is TREMELO. If you are still confused then perhaps it would be more profitable to select a topic that you have, if only tenuously, a grasp.

@@johnr.b.murray3417 I'm not confused. Why are you so angry? Like Don Coyer, I'm partial to playing pedal steel-type licks on my Telecasters (and my other guitars, for that matter), with the swell from a volume pedal making it all the more authentic sounding, especially when the pedal is set to a low volume before picking the strings. Another great technique is using the vibrato arm on a Strat when playing lapsteel-type licks. Ask any guitar player: they'll tell you. If you are still angry, then perhaps it would be more profitable to sit down and try some deep breathing exercises.

I actually installed a DiMarzio mini-humbucker in my Gretsch last week, there was so much hum coming out of the single-coil. I might do an update video with some tone samples 👍

@@Kbald Would love to see that video - the single coil of the Gretsch is so noisy. Which minibucker did you go with?

I’m sure you’ll love the benders ☺️

Thank you ☺️

That’s great man, I really happy that you found the video helpful. Hope everything goes well with finding the right benders for your Lap steels. I highly recommend the Certano benders 👌

Thank you man🙏 Appreciate it.

Pink Floyd and the song high hopes turned me on to lap steel ...I have never looked back!

Ben Harper has his own style of lap steel playing ....check him out

This sounds really interesting, so I assume that your low C# is a semi-tone below my low D (in the open D tuning). Would love to give this one a go. As I mentioned in the video I am very new to the lap steel so I'm very open to trying out different tunings. The reason I started out with C6 and Open D is that I found loads of lessons and arrangements online for those tunings.

@@Kbald Well, I have planning to do a video about my lap steel set up. And... There is a catch about that tuning. I actually using Pyramid Slide Set strings in my guitar. Those are much more "flexible" for that tuning, because my tuning is little bit "higher". But again, it's the gear and pedals that helps me to get that right tone and sound. And little note, this is just my personal favorite tuning, but it doesn't mean it's everyone tuning. It is very individual and subjective which tuning fits each player. I myself had to search for my own favorite for a longer time, because the open E, D and A tunings didn't really suit me. I went to a website that had a list of different open tunings for dobro, lap steel, and pedal steel. I found a C#Minor tuning there, aka E C# G# E C# G#, which I used for a while. It wasn't until I got the Multibender that I got it into my head to try tuning C# G# F# G# C# E, and the more I used it, the more natural it felt to me. So I recommend looking for the kind of open tuning that feels the most natural to you. If you want concrete example about my tone and sound, this is probably my best example, from my other channel. Casper Esmann - Tears In Heaven (Lap Steel Play Along) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNiVeKhqlbPLZZc.html

Thank you for the link, this sounds very nice. I would also be very interested to see the video about your lap steel setup.

@@Kbald I finally managed to make that video about my Gear And Settings. Now on my main channel. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8uXl5ahqLG2pJc.html

Great stuff, I will check it out.

Hey Cameron! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙏 Those Certano Benders are awesome, glad you’re also happy with yours. To bad to hear about you volume pedal being stolen. In the video I use the Mission engineeering pedal with my Kemper but I recently got myself a Dunlop Mini Volume Pedal for my analog rig. That one is awesome and easy to fit on any pedalboard.

As a pedal steel player I prefer the most popular Goodrich L120. However a few use the Ernie Ball but with a 500k potentiometer installed. Stock they have a 250k. I have a couple Ernie Ball pedals and they are good quality but a bit awkward for pedal steel.

Thanks 🙏☺️

Hey man, it would probably be best to measure the distance between the nut and the bridge and make sure you set it up in the perfect scale length for your lap steel. I didn’t do the measuring but just made a mark with a pen to put the new bridge in the same spot as the old one. Probably not the best way to do it but it worked out fine for me in the end ☺️

@@Kbald terrific! Thanks so much! Your vid is super inspiring… thanks for putting this out there and for responding to my questions! 🤙🏼✨🎶

Awesome man, how do you like the multibender? I’ve never tried one of those.

@@Kbald I just got it, so I haven't installed it yet, I found your discussion on differences between C6 and open D very informative. I been doing Dobro on and off in GBDGBD, mostly bluegrass, but looking for that sudo pedal steel sound on the Grestch. I'll keep you posted 🍻. Liked your benders on the tele as well !👍

Hope you’ll find the right roller bridge and that the installation goes well. I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun with the benders. Definitely keep me posted 👍

Here you go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nc96bKRzy6y8Y5s.html ☺️

They do indeed, so one bends string “2” while the other one bends string “3”. This is such a nice tool 👍

Hey Gary, I haven’t tried it so I’m not entirely sure but would love to find out.

Awesome man, I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun with the benders. I’m using Ernie Ball 15-20-26-36-46-58 for the open D but I used 15-17-20-26-32-36 for the C6

@@Kbald are these slinkies?

Yes they are indeed, I use the slinkies for all my guitars.

Thank you! Troy’s channel is amazing, great lessons 👌

Hey Jan, yes you can. I tried it but didn’t really find a way to play any cool licks etc. I played in open D for a while but now I moved on to GBDF#AD. I’m sure you can find a way to use the bender in C6.

What type of a Lap Steel have you got?

@@Kbald Guyatone Conqueror HG306 C 6 string.

Well, the low D string is a bit sharp actually. I’m using a .58 at the moment, perhaps going up to .60 would make it slightly better. Mainly because that would give me more string tension. All the other strings are fine in terms of intonation. The original bridge didn’t have compensated saddles either so it would have been the same issue I guess.

@@Kbald I think a .060 would make it worse. As you go thicker, the bridge needs to go back more. It’s already too far forward for the .058.

Yes that is true but the less string tension the more the string “bends” up in pitch while I press the slide bar against it. This is perhaps just a matter of developing a better feel and technique. Before I put the .58 in I was using a .56 and things got much better with the .58

@@Kbald However, as I understand it, you don’t want it to “bend up to pitch” because it’s already too high. Whatever works out in the end, I guess. If the .060 works best, that’s they way to go.

For what it's worth Michael, I know of NO Pedal Steel Guitar; that has "intonation Correction". And I have played them every since 1954. Because it's so easy to slant the bar and correct it. IE: the late "Buddy Emmons": is the Greatest SG there will ever be; and he used "slight slants" of his Bar all the time; throughout his unbelievable Career. And he was dead on Always! May Jesus rest his precious Soul. A dear friend and I shall never forget him. Incidentally, the Deusenberg's "'multi bend" SG's; do have intonational corrections. By an adjusting screws, for each string. For what it's worth.

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@2:00 not clear on how to put the bridge in the perfect spot. Without this the install is faulty. What is the point of reference to get the perfect spot?

The point of reference should be from the nut or frets???

As you can see in the chapters I set up for this video 😉

The point of reference is the nut. It's always about the distance from the nut to the bridge. If you have ordered a Certano bender you have most likely received a letter from David Certano with the correct measurements and the template sheet as well.

Thank you for this help. I don’t recall seeing you measure from the nut in the video. I will watch it again. I fear messing up. Perhaps I am mechanically challenged. Also are there instructions on how to use the template? I will look at again at the FAQ’s at Certano web site. I have a good repair shop in Chicago USA that mostly likely does them.

I have a pedal steel, and I seems fairly close to me. Obviously can't do all that a PS can, but what it does sounds very similar. Wondering what you feel, is "not even close"?