Hahahahhahah

Honestly I’d jus turn around and tell my commander yea they all killed themselves jus runnin full speed into their pikes tf we do now?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You gotta give them props though for sticking around a whole 7 seconds after the pike lysol killed 99.9% of germs

A few of them still tried. Got stabbed.

Wym charging pikes head on is the only way to defeat them

Can't go around them. Against the rules. Honour bound

​@@Bogomil1066 you have tho throw Something on them tho kill them

Idk why but this is one of the funniest comments I ever read 😂😂😂

​@@Bogomil1066why can't they use bow or other projectile weapon?

Bro the game is like 9 years old, and its a game

@@oscar12ty 9 years ago was only 2014. That's not too far back. Plenty of amazing games were made back then, don't underestimate them. Plus, it's a game. So what? It can't be plausible?

@@senseishu937 plenty of good gamse, but there were no physics engines capable of waht you want from this game. at that scale it still is not possible in 2023

@@oscar12ty bro... simulating pikes semi realistically is not hard at all. The older total war games simulated them well. The older total war games, like medieval 2. Infantry didn't just run and flop as soon as they hit pikemen, they died and slowed down and it becomes a slog. That games is half a decade older than atilla. You seem to underestimate the technology we've got nowadays and back then.

@@senseishu937 he is asking for multiple units to get impaled. I didnt even mention the AI in the game, so why are you talking about it?

Dude is a hardcore LOTR fan

he had a premonition

The spirit of the West ☠️

AI is becoming self aware apparently

They are barbarians after all

They are good cannonfodder atleast

The Red Army would hire them all!

@@NikawlosI love how the popular image of Soviet army is iterally “the asiatic horde” Bruh the red army’s later victories were from change of infantry tactics.

​@@LOL-zu1zrdamn late response but are you that dense to think i wasnt joking?

shut up

To be fair that's what heavy cavalry does if they can't maneuver on the flanks. With their momentum and the sun glaring into the eyes if the Urak-hai. It was a solid charge.

​@@SgtCroaker im quite sure he means the elves after gimlis heroic jump. The men of rohan dont get that old

Definitely be cool to see but i wouldnt want it to be implemented

There is enough collision issues as it is v

You can wait forever, kill animations only got less since Attila

@@irgendeinname9256 true. Tis a sad thing to admit but it will be missed.

mk1212 bran mod adds it

True

Good analogy, almost no one charged a pike formation, or even a spear formation for that matter. even in heavy armor the chances of surviving in such an attack is slim to none. the way to beat pike formations is to shoot at them from afar, throw javelins at them with you infantry and break in the parts that are too thin after harassment. If there is no such opening the infantry try to hold them in place and move backwards as the formation marches slowly towards them, and the flanking forces have to do the rest.

@@bernard3303 Polish winged hussarrs charged pikes with success. You can say how? impossible? But hussars lances were longer than pikes, and the horses used by winged hussars were more expenisve than whole villages.

Then they got outmatched by longer pikes that go pew pew.

they did kinda fall out of style they just came back around the late 15th century

Actually they made a small comeback during the American Civil War. Granted, if I were a Confederate soldier and I was ordered to charge a formation of riflemen with a pointy stick, I'd be catching some desertion charges

Копья так то использовались даже в 1 мировой кавалерией. А булавы пехотой)

Actually Pikes we’re out of style by the early medieval period. Most factions were using the shield wall method of combat with Germanic spatha and shield, sometimes with an axe or mace. This continued until the end of the early medieval period where the early prototype knights began to win one too many battles and that is where long lances and spears were reintroduced particularly starting with the Scottish under William Wallace where they would use the schiltrons to defeat English Cavalry at Stirling Bridge.

You're right, they just don't like pike's

Rome defeated the famed long Macedonian pikes at Cynocephalae in the early 2nd century BC using the mobile Roman maniples and triplex acies. They easily bested pikes and would never consider them until the 3rd and 4th century where the legions began to use lances like a mini pike formation to deter cavalry

​@@ConstantineJosephwouldn't say 'easily' - those were still closely fought battles. The Pike was retired too early imo, and would've been great for the center of Roman lines, using legionaries on the flanks

@@ConstantineJoseph r/whooosh

@@stonem0013 Actually the Roman legion is well capable of taking on long pikes. With missiles they carry, like the pila, javelin and later on darts, missile fire would tear away at the pikes. The high mobility of the legions meant that they will always outflank and out maneuver slow moving phalangites. The so called "pike" would again by used by the late Roman military legions who were armed with lances or 2 to 3m heavy spears in their Comitatensis heavy legionary cohorts. The Byzantines also were using these formations well into the 6th century under Justinian. Sidearms would be spathas, axes, maces, clubs etc.... However they would not use the phalanx at the hip level for thrusting. Instead it is held at shoulder level to jab at Germanic heavy cavalry or Hunnic heavy cavalry. Still when up in melee combat, the lances would lodge into enemies, piercing them. Resulting in relinquishing the lances, to form a shield wall with spathas and other smaller close in weaponry. The late Roman and Byzantine did use a medium phalanx but was hybridized with the Roman shield wall system and close in melee, shield wall style of combat tactic

They give braced pikes a “reflect charge” stat that basically takes an enemy unit’s charge bonus and slaps it against them, mainly to make braced spears (or pikes) a bad option to charge into, but it can also lead to this here where an enemy unit is very weak defensively but has a high charge bonus, meaning that charging onto an enemy pike formation essentially has them shoot themselves in the face

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Medieval 2 pikes are awesome when secundary wepons is removed and damage is reduced like in every single mod.

They were probably under influence

Provided of course the spearmen would stay still so they could use their axes to cut the spear. either way the cenario showed in the video is just as unlikely (why would anyone charge face first into a pointy object??)

​@@1tuttyfruticause its total war

@@Jurisenn Of course, that is why I commented that. Im very aware how units behave in total war. Have so many fond memories of defending a siege because 2 units of hoplites blocked entire armies in the gates.

​@@1tuttyfruti I'd say in the real world, breaking spear or grabbing them wasn't a far fetched idea. Manoeuvring a 4m long spear is quite hard to do... That being said, I also doubt soldier where rushing head first into the pike, roman for instance used their higher mobility to surround and disorganized the phalanx

​@@Miam_miam_la_gauffreit's not that easy to break a spear lmao it's a very thick shaft and it's hard to hit because the wielder won't just stay still.

They were ok just they way they were in MTW2

@@radovanprstojevic1060i mean that is your experience but when I use pikes they switch to swords and they get destroyed by calvery

In shogun 2 sometimes the yari wall soldiers don't even thrust their yaris if there is lag on the game, thats a fragile system, i dont get where the hype for shogun 2 is about tho tbh, barely any faction unit diversity, multiplayer is dog, combat ends faster than warhammer games, idk man

While I agree with what you say I really don't think Oda Long Yari Ashigaru are nowhere near a good example of how to make a good pike unit

​@@someone1949 so they should improve the system with next game instead throwing out it completely

@@someone1949 weebs. But I love fall of the samurai because I can take a bunch of ironclads around the island nuking everything within bombardment distance. There’s also an incredible amount of building options which really lets you cultivate your economy and defenses. The railroad system and foreign intervention policies were welcome additions as well. Edit: seems criminal they haven’t explored that time period in a while as the troop movement and army set up in TW caters better to it than ancient campaigns.

​@@someone1949 what do you mean by "unit diversity"

Never heard of a spit roast? :)

Well, realistically no. But of we are going realistic, TW battles should be 12 hpurs long, units rout at maybe 10%casualties, arrows and javelins kills 80% less than in game, cav would be more devastating at charge, but far weaker in uneven terrain or outside of a charge. ...would be boring

Rome 2 DEI Mod

@@imhollywood101 That's not the diadochi period though?

Is that some kind of mod ?

@@gniewomirbartoszewski6835 DEI if a total overhaul mod for rome 2. it add population, area of recruitement and so much other stuff that are absent from the base game. plus there is a bunch of submod that you can add to make your experience for personnal playing DEI. 200% recommend the mod

@@park1699gets tedious after a while tho 😅 definitely fun in the beginning tho

This guy has actually played! But 1 or two pikemen can be clutch if you shield them with a good sbield unit

@@Elsneakakaze Also depending on who you're playing as, for example for the ERE, your only pikes are going to be golden tier 3 units that AI will prioritize on targetting over your silver tier 2 shield units, which makes it even harder to keep them alive. The can be incredibly useful in sieges though

I played as Sparta, so my armies had like 8 spartan hoplites, general's hoplites, 3 spartan pikes, 3 slinger heliots and two tarentin cavs. I had slingers in front, then back tham fast behind line of hoplites and in this line of hoplites in falanga, I had the three, realy thin, units of pikes. I could get like 400+ kills with each pike unit. And I used slingers and cav to go around enemy flanks. Slingers to shoot to the backs and sides of the enemy infantry engaged with mine (slingers could get hundreds of kills like that) and cav to charge enemy skirmishers. Only tough oponents were Thracians, bcs they had full stacks of really fast javelimen. I could not catch them with hoplites and they were really deadly with each waley of javelins killing tenths of hoplites

Да я ничего и не скрываю

I play it sometimes too,my pc is old

Attila is the best part of TW

Play modded Attila. Settled Huns mod + Slavic bug fix. Best game ever, cuz it eliminates the OP Hun doom stack cheat, plus it stops them from razing every fkin region

​@@stilihon3525Attila and Shogun 2 are the best games in the series.

​@@dakiler2028 isnt that kinda what huns did irl...