Please do the 6 hour AI per core overclock thing and see what the result is

I almost cried watching it render that frame so quickly. I'm a 3D generalist and I've spent months of my life waiting for renders. Maybe some day I'll be able to afford $10,000 for a Threadripper. Sigh.

Those are some great temps. Makes me want to go back in to see how much I can drop my voltages. _right now it's cranked up for stability, but I'm sure it definitely could be better._

I'd love to see how well that 6hr AI tuned feature works. And we all love seeing you get out the boxes and duct tape to use the AC on it, c'mon Jay, you know you want too.

Yessssssssss- I am also curious as to the result if you do the 6 hour curve optimizer.

Please do the 6 hour per core AI thing you mentioned. Very interested to see what it comes up with & your analysis/break down of it.

Great video. I know this is just test build for the Threadripper but on my main rig and whenever I’m doing overclocking I always put a “restart to bios” shortcut on the desktop. Saves a lot of time when you’re constantly rebooting, testing, rebooting, and your Delete key will thank you 😂

Ordered my gaming mat today can't wait for it to arrive here in the uk

Out of pure curiosity... What if you set up the ac debauchery and allowed the per core 6hr ai overclock to run under those conditions? Sounds fun lol

I've been using a 7950x since release and only been using XMP to 6000mhz memory. Watched this video and out of curiosity wanted to check to see what AI optimized would do on my setup. Pre-AI Optimized I was capped out at 5.9Ghz and was frequently at the 95degree limit and scoring ~36000 in Cinebench. After AI Optimized I am now hitting 6GHZ, whilst staying under 94degrees and scoring ~38000 repeatedly.... Wow!

For this kind of thing AI is amazing, extremely tedious tasks like spending hours optimizing core by core done automatically is amazing. Like I have a Ryzen 7 2700 and optimizing the voltage for it is boring enough I can barely imagine 64 cores individually.

Voltage going up after the load ends is not for stability. It's because the VRMs are still sending long pulses to send 50+ amps to the vcore but suddenly there's no load. That's managed by load line calibration and VRM frequency. From no load to full load, the same thing happens but instead of spiking up, it spikes the voltage down. You also see 1.3v because you are not hitting a power limit so the CPU clock increases which requires extra voltage.

I had once the AI work so good on my gigabyte mobo, it did much better than I did and all with one click. And then they released a new BIOS version which was meant to improve the AI even more and so I updated and it completely ruined everything, havent used it since

I've had a $179 Kraken 280 at home for a few months. The cooling performance is amazing. Cools even Ryzen 9 just fine 👍

"Turn the knob up on the voltage and push the clock even higher" yeah in my experience with AI overclocking stuff it usually does the former and pushes the clocks way lower instead lol.

Love Nick's crab walk 😂

Please do the 6 hours AI overclock and redo it with the AC to see the difference

JayzTwoCents is always the first place I look when talking about overclocking.

Manual OC is crazy Jay!

Thanks for this great video as first guide for OC of TR7. Unfortunately, some of Your steps were shown so fast, that I didn´t quite get the final message. Was 121.000p achieved with simply setting Memory to AI and CPU to AI in BIOS without PBO and without any additional tweaks ? Maybe You can add some table of Your final settings with which You achieved the best results ? Thanks

Wow. Thanks for these very informative videos.

Nick showing the shirt is worth the like on itself. But and always, a great video. Peace and long life! 🖖

Can't wait for a direct-die block for this thing, and see what people can get out of threadripper, with even lower temps!

5:00 i hope those power saving options with manual voltages, trickle down into the other mainstream cpu's. seems like another easy way for AMD to increase efficiency

About the memory training: i own a 7800X3D and a Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX with 6000mhz Corsair ram cl30 (expo activated) and it boot very very fast... I never had issues. I read in forums Asus have the most issues with memory training...

Is it possible to delid the cpu and try watercooling the full die directly? Would love to see that video if it is possible :-D

I'd honestly love to see if you can delid the cpu and cool it with a custom mount and see what scores you can get then

For my 24/7 95% all-core load workload, I just enable XMP Tweaked memory timing preset and AI Overclock. Absolutely stable. 5.30 Ghz on the good die cores and 5.1 Ghz on the mediocre die cores on my 7950X. Temps stay under the 95° C. limit. The Asus AI Overclock is so simple and painless, no reason not to use it. I don't have any issues restarting or rebooting my host. Boots in seconds every time. 6000 CL36 G. Skill memory. Would have expected the same result on the Zen 4 Threadrippers as Jay found out.

I'm curious how much power the system pulls on a load like prime95 small fft AVX

You know what you MUST do Jay you need to bring the Air Conditioner and Curve Optimizer

@jay AFAIK the Asus AI Tuner takes the cooler performance into consideration, and you had a monster one, which might explain the excellent results. Also, you had PBO on, but +200 FMax and CO still remain to be explored, perhaps on the future 7970X review you hinted at? Excellent job nonetheless.

Man, a 64 core cpu going past 5 ghz all core is just nuts to me. I remember thinking 14 core xeons going past 3 ghz was blazing fast

is ryzen clocktuner still a thing or does the curve optimizer kinda make that obsolete?

Restart issues with AMD always come down to motherboard makers cheaping out and not fully implementing the specification for restart. AMD need to force MOBO makers hands and not supply support chipsets until the MB has been certified.

When doing any advertising also state the amount of volume to calculate with for the SFX comunity.

Jay you mentioned that the desktop and thread ripper are the same chiplets. That is correct for the cores. But the memory controller is on the io die. Which is different.

you need to do a video on audio setup. just built a new ssystem and im usingthe onboard realtek audio but its impossible to get to run properly . im using sdif out and i cant seen to get 5.1 on speakers. I usually use a soundblaster card but wanted a cleaner set up this time but there s no info anywhere on how to properly set audio in win 11

Even though I'm not tech savvy, I love watching your videos!! Thanks to your videos and some other youtubers (but mainly you), I got the confidence to build my first rig. Once again, Thank you!!

That CB23 score is so high, I no longer have any desire to test my current nor future CPUs with it!😅

My 5700x used to do the restart derp every time but weirdly it stopped when I OC'd my memory and got timings down to 14-14-14-24 @ 3600MT/s. 🤷‍♂️

I'm quite happy to realize that my " Xeon x5675" 6 core 12 threads CPU from 2011 runs at 5Ghz at all cores (Overclocked)

jay im saying that cryo fuze cooler master you would be amazed

WHat software are you using for the AI overclocking? Like I can't find anything to use that seems reputable.

i got a JTC ad on a JTC video and wasn't sure it was the video or not until my autoskipper skipped it.

Hello Mr. Jay, Would it be possible to test the threadripper with Debian Testing Linux?

What fans or pump does he have running at 4700rpm?

We need the per core overclock please give that a try

I'm on the fence to order shirt as not sure if xl or 2xl would be to small as I'm 6'2 230 lbs and and usually between xl or 2xl but I'm euro and afraid there might be some difference in US XL and Euro XL? Anyway amazing content as always Jay, Nic and Phil and if you guys make a T-shirt with all 3 of you on it I think it will sell like hot cakes!!

Jay, you answered your own question! Let’s put the ac on this and let it rip

1:59 did you say sunday is the last day of the black friday/cyber monday sale? 😂

14:34 The VddSoc voltage is set to 1.15, not 1.5 as stated. Not criticising, just clarifying.

hey jay! i wanted to aks if there are still issues with the 4090 a year later or if its safe to buy and use now. would love it if you made a video about the "4090 a year later", but thats probably too much to ask.

I say you ask Nic to 3D print a stand for that thing and put the A/C to it through the radiators.

Best yet

Hey, I wanted to ask a question since I just got my PC parts in today. I got a i9 cpu and going to pair it with a rx 580 for now since I'm going to wait till next year to get the rtx 4090, will there be a problem with that pair?

There goes 1/2 of Jay's content videos here now! 🤭

@jayztwocents Could you please tell me what chair you prefer and the one you use in your videos?

I love how Jayz's loop can handle 600W+ at 67°C max...

That CPU draws more power than my entire setup while playing 2077.

would that mean that my 5800x is being unusual? ive got it set to 1.29v with a 150TDP 100TDC and 160EDC All core optimiser -25 running Aida or Cinebench i max out around 82c with my Thermalright 360mm AIO but my cores still go into a sleep state when not being used

1 DOT 3 ? When did point get replaced with dot?

So here's a silly question Jay, why don't you use the non press release version of Ryzen Master?

I am curious what brand of memory you are running. I have 0 luck on any of my Ryzen systems with XMP and Corsair Ram. Swap in Gskill and change nothing else and it will be off and running no problems for years with XMP enabled.

With an intro like that, I fully expect this video to boil down to some kind of cautionary tale ending with multiple fire extinguishers.

Does MSI offer AI functions in their X670 motherboards?

I could hear you eyerolling as you had to record that censor dub lol

Jay why don’t you get thermocouples for over clocking if the score decrease is that big of an issues? Even an external thermocouple with a hvac controller / meter like a fieldpiece temp meter. I do hvac and believe me theirs plenty of options.

I just got a i5 12600k and have been looking for information on this. I've not done to much with the cpu due that my boot drive was legacy and not uefi which caused crashes in TimeSpy and r23. After changing to uefi was able to run TimeSpy and R23. Looking to see how things go with my system.

I don't understand, with the end of ddr4 and new ddr5 how they f up so bad with memory not being compatible out of the box. I had issues with intel and AMD. Changing for other stick of ram has helped (ddr4)

It’s true AI OC software can do a pretty good job of OCing it pretty close to the max. Although I would not trust it to set the voltage.

17:17 Wish my Asus Impact DTX motherbord could do that.

Great video

On my last build (end of 2018), I actually let my Asus board do its own overclocking. First time I let this happen, and it was pretty good, so I just left it since. Never had a game crash because of that. If anything, certain games will crash from my GPU undervolt. I have two undervolt settings, and the more aggressive one passed every benchmark test I threw at it (and I them for hours upon hours over the course of a few days), but some games just don't care, so I end up having to use the more conservative settings instead for those.

Get a aquarium chiller and do an overclock with subzero temps. So its not gonna reach liquid nitrogen levels cold but you can sustain a longer over clock compared to liquid nitrogen as that tends to be short lived. Contrast that with an aquarium chiller which uses say 52 gallons of water which is chilled down to what ever temp you set it to. That large volume of water in my opinion would require significant large amounts of heated water to be passed into the cooler water to raise overall temp. Once that temp starts to rise the chiller would begin to cool. Then the issue becomes is this beast powerful enough to heat the water beyond its initial starting temp and if so by how much. You should challenge Steve!🤓 Plus would be cool to see how you go about insulating the mother board and stuff. Oooo, Oooooo you could even do a hermetically sealed case. OMG, that might have just blown your mind a case with no air flow!

I have to agree with what's brought up at 9:04! I recently had to deal with a software update that made Windows 10 UNBOOTABLE on a Ryzen 9 7950X based PC. After trying a couple of quick fixes that failed, I was eventually forced to restore a backup image that, fortunately, was only a couple of days "out of date." But before I was ACTUALLY able to restore said backup image, I dealt with my Windows PE based USB rescue media crashing every time after it booted! I finally figured out that, for whatever reason, the overclock settings that worked fine for months on Windows 10 couldn't be used for this Windows PE rescue environment, so I had to use the "optimized default" settings in the UEFI! Ugh!

My ASrock Tiachi Carrara only has pbo. I have no idea how to oc, so I simply did -10 optimize for the cpu and manually applied my memory settings since xmp is unstable. I get 60 fps in timespy on a Ryzen 9 7950x3d with cores to prefer frequency

I would love to see the results of the Video encoding.

if you do your cpu oc first and then your memory , you might end up in a situation that your mem bandwidth increase and also increase throughput ( cpu workload) and thus your cpu oc isn't stable anymore, thinking that your memory oc is unstable while it could be also true and thats why you cant rely on one stress test. first go with cinebench when i use prime 95 small ffts(not over your L3 size) i use hci memtest for pure ram stress test (also mem thermal test) and finish with 50 loops LinpackXtreme to stress everything (cpu cache mem)

so ... is this like an Asus only tkind of thing, or will everyone now have this type of OC ?

Anyone here know the different between expo 1 and 2, and which is better? I have an asus crosshair x670e mobo

Hello I got an issue with my laptop while gaming , when it's unplugged it'll give nearly 30 FPS but when I'll plugged the FPS drop to 23 or 20 , I've checked the power plan and the battery settings best performance but it didn't fix it, I'll be thankful for helping me

I really wish that the phoenix bios was more common on consumer motherboards

Just a reminder the memory controller is on the SOC

I dont have twitter so i didnt see any announcements about this but are you guys not doing the rtfm show anymore I love that show

4:14 Lmao😂

What software is allowing this?

Agreed with the amd comment. I’m using a 5950x on an x570 ace board and the number of times I get a 22 error code on the display when I boot up is insane

@13:28 AI really IS taking all of our jobs!! 🤣

"...SHUT UUUP!" 😂 that cracked me, had to replay it several times😅

that wattage just climbs really quick

Hey, I’ve got a question about RAM and would be very thankful if anybody could help me 😅 The webpage of Intel says, that the i9-14900K has a max memory bandwidth of 5600 MT/s with DDR5. Does it make sense to buy a RAM with clock of 7200 MHz? Is MT/s and MHz the same? When Intels and AMDs best (consumer) CPUs on the market only support RAM speeds of around 5500 MT/s, why are the RAM modules with over 7000 MHz?

reason why i keep a max clock i leave auto on load allows for cpu to sleep channels

I have a strange thing happening with my 5900X. First processor I had failed, it wouldn't passthrough video. AMD replaced it. The new processor I have works fine, except the 4th core, gets way hotter than all of the rest. Most will be around 70C, but this core will hit 86C. So I did a manual overclocking, and made that core stay at 3700mhz while the rest are allowed to go to 4.4 or 4.5 on an all core overclock...except mr hothead # 4. I'm thinking it's an air bubble in the TIM on top of the silicon between the heat spreader. Your thoughts?

AI is taking Jayz job as well 😂

i need help Whenever i turn on my XMP my boot time rises from 10-15 sec to 3-5 min

You can see Jays realisation creeping up on him. "It took my job!!!"

FWIW, Jay, my i7 10750H does the same thing your Threadripper's doing when modifying the BIOS. It's not just an AMD thing. Intels can do it, too. (My laptop is an Asus ROG, BTW...so maybe it's an Asus thing)

How good is the Asus Hero Z790 AI OC?... I run it on the my i9-13900ks.

For some reason this video looks better.

Damn, I just got the Silicone Lottery, I think. I decided to wait for the 8000 series AMD CPUs and I had the 3900X. Yesterday I bought for $289 the 5900X. I got it with Ryzen Master for gaming to do 4.940 GHz on 2 cores with default voltage and setting in the BIOS. Then I did what I like most. I went in the BIOS and with 1.167V I got 4.6 all core and for 1.2565 I got 4.7 GHz all core. My temps don't even go above 60C...I got Cinebench 23,197 multicore...Funny thing is that I could get stable 4.8 all core at 1.334v but because the safe all core all day long is 1.3V max, I decided to go with the 4.7 which has made an obvious upgrade from my 3900x