it was my first expansion growing up so of course i have a major nostalgic feeling for it but for me Mop has always been my favorite expansion. I still just love the raids, class design and zones more than any other expansion. And with how people are talking about it, it almost feels it is becoming the popular thing to say you have an unpopular positive opinion on it lol

Timeless isle world pvp and getting into & chilling at brawlers guild were some of the best times I ever had in wow

MoP was my favorite expansion as a little kid, but I didn’t get to experience it to the fullest until I joined private servers. I spent the past year playing on Tauri and Stormforge and had such a fun time. Both communities are small but welcoming and I hope they see more growth if Legion ever gets released.

Great to see these types of videos from you still. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on these sort of topics even though I don’t really play WoW anymore.

I'm glad other people feel like this about MoP I always looked back on it more fondly than all my friends.

i think the advantage of the ease of leveling post cata revamp over the old world is that the quests are way better designed and each zones have actual stories going that aren't just burried in the quest text that nobody reads (for the most part), because let's be real, vanilla had really, *really* boring quests, they're all either Kill x mobs, collect y from mobs where the drop rate was the equivalent of getting ashes of al'ar (Zhevra hooves anyone?), and absolutely insane travel times, that's basically repeated throughout every Kalimdor/EK zone before the cataclysm revamp. you can't convince me that vanilla silverpine forrest is a better zone to level in than the revamped Silverpine with all the undead and worgen lore.

Loved Stormforge and the MoP experience was there on launch and early raiding scene. Loved to relive it anew. Only downside was the guild i joined which after missing one raid night kicked me because "Your dps is no problem, being accountable is". I missed the raid cuz i was in hospital, which I should have foreseen i suppose being in a car crash and all. Really wish that ontop of recovery wouldnt have put me off to it, loved playing mop again in general but now i fear the server has progressed enough to where catching up isnt viable really.

Timeless Isle was fun, had a full set of welfare epics on my mage. Some of those mobs could actually slap!

Throne of Thunder is my favorite raid in WoW. That alone makes Mists great for me, but I also agree that class design was at a very high point in Mists as well. I loved how Fury played in MoP, for example.

Gameplaywise this expansion was ok, but I could never get over the fact they made an entire expansion centered around pandas, when the only panda we'd seen was a minor wc3 character.

I liked MoP because, while a lot of things that Garrosh did were considered wrong by the community, he was a daring leader, while Thrall almost always "played it safe". I also loved the Battle Fatigue debuff that basically erased healers from PVP (being a warrior that was awesome, ngl). I disliked the battle pet system, but I liked the whole "Harvest Moon" quests we could do while waiting for raids CD. It was in MoP that I did Loremaster from scratch using a boosted character. There was also a duel I won because I pushed a guy from a ledge in a panic attack because I was losing it. My friend did not speak to me in a week after that, rofl.

The shield on the shaman at the very beginning is identical to a shield from dragon age inquisition. like 102% identical. good stuff.

The thing I like the most about mop is that once 5.4 comes out, you can gear up at level 85 by just looting all the 1 time chests on the islands and even maybe kill a few rares, and loot the unlimited flask item from that cave. You can have a full set for 496 items (not counting weapon) and 2 or 3 tokens to boost items to 525 before you even hit 90. The moment you ding you can slap all that gear on instantly. Being able to progress your character before you hit max level is always a good feeling. I hate when the "end game" does not start until you are actually max level. It's what makes classic feel so good, because nearly everything you do is something you *should* be doing if you were 60. You *want* to get rep with your main factions for the 10% discount, you can start getting argent dawn and other reps as early as I think 19, and you are constantly obtaining weapon skills while leveling which makes you feel like you are still progressing. Where as in legion and beyond literally nothing you do before max level maters because it is all 100000% faster and easier once you hit max level to the point where everything you did before cap was rendered useless after you hit max level. You are punished for playing the game basically in later xpacks.

Started late wrath, Pretty casual and just learned the basics of the game in Cata, And then went hard in MOP. Laptop broke during SoO and I didnt pick the game up until early BFA. I have alot of love for MOP, And DF feels almost like a spiritual successor to MOP. A expansion based around exploration instead of some big bad threat.

Timeless Isle was the best wpvp experience I had since early vanilla back in '05. I loved bloodcoining so much even after the carebear nerf. I was only basic pvp geared (I went casual) yet absolutely dominated timeless isle with blood coining as a hunter, it was just so much fun. Infact late MoP was so fun for all classes with so much movement. Timeless Isle was one of the best zones blizz ever made, it had a reason for everyone to be there for both pve and pvp from casuals to raiders and new toons to geared toons. The zone buffs were the most fun at any period of WoW and the whole island felt alive and engaging. They really set the bar for zone design and sadly they never even got close to reaching it again.

Cherrish these moment man, wont be long till hamsterJR has to farm gold for allowance 🥰

Congrats on the newborn!

Wish you all the best with the new Legendary Son! A new moonkin to our world :D

I 100% agree with you on this vid. The advertising and, most of all, the location and characters, PANDAS, totally killed the Tolkien style mmo I fell in love with. That was the very first break I took from wow.

Mists of Pandaria was actually the expansion that first made me aware of World of Warcraft's existence, so it's pretty special in that regard. I was like 9 or 10 years old when I saw that promotional poster sign thing at the entrance of Walmart, which was just the box art, and my first thought was "Ew why would anyone want to play as an ugly panda?"

Siege of orgrimmar is the GOATed raid for me because its the first time I ever properly got into raiding, also because of where my life was at while raiding it. Staying up late on school nights doing flex runs with the boys

my problem was mainly that i was a solo player and without joining a guild, i hit a wall when trying to gear up after getting full raid finder and timeless isle stuff... after getting into flex it gets much better :D

part of the reason why cata and mop was so good for me was the timing. Finished school, and had a year or two to just chill and enjoy the game. And at the same time, streaming was popping off, i had been watching swifty for years at that point and he was streaming like 24/7 plus the yogscast and totalbiscuit (rip) doing there competions to see who could release the most cata beta videos, in a friendly way of course, and even doing videos together checking out newer low llv dugeons. Also that was around the time i first found sodapoppin, and then all that drama with mercader and soda, while swifty would have bajheera, hotted and mercader over to his "gaming house" it was a good time. The older i get, the more i realise. After vanilla, the game was never that interesting. It just facilitated an interesting social environment.

for meit holds a spot in my heart because I started playing retail at 2013 (MoP, couple of weeks before ToT patch) and i was super excited. Although i played wow a lot prior that moment, MoP for me was super special

Dad Gamer?! Gefeliciteerd man!

My problem with any expansion post-cata, as you mention, is that the levelling content became a second-class citizen kind of thing. That's simply why I couldn't get into expansions like pandaria. Which is a shame because the game looks beautiful, but it's just boring to play imo. I'm enjoying my time on turtle wow just levelling up, but I must admit I'd like more abilities and different styles of playing a class, while keeping that vanilla philosophy.

I have levelled on Duskhaven and Stormforge recently and I can honestly say I prefer levelling in mop. Don't get me wrong though, things do die a bit too quickly in mop but at the same time, classes feel so much more engaging to play while levelling that it doesn't matter to me. I think the issue I have with Duskhaven is that there's just too much downtime and mobs just feel really spongey. If you ask me the best balance for levelling would be a somewhere between the two. Things should do damage and hurt but shouldn't take 20-30 seconds each to kill, that just makes it feel like a chore.

When I first spoke to you about it. You said you were gonna try but was having a lot of fun playing Vanilla+ and now you putting time into StormForge. Funny how that works! Lol, but as always love your content. You make me happy to be a private server WoW Player! Can’t wait to see what other servers you play on! 😁

I liked this xpac a lot. Pvp was fun. The zones were fun and beautiful. I loved my farm. Timeless isle and thunder isle pvp honor dailies. Overall really good. I may play twinstars pandaria and make a panda rogue.

I loved MOP. Some of the most fun I’ve had on wow

Hé hamsterwheel, might a wierd or creepy question but are you from 024? I think i saw you riding your bike a little while ago, or a really handsome dubbelganger

I never saw death and destruction in the previous WoW cinematics, save perhaps Cataclysm. I saw adventure.

the trailer was kinda funny. the theme is amazing, especially maps like jade forest and dread wastes. i dont like the male pandas, but female pandas are decent. for example female panda shadow priest has great casting animations. i wasnt hyped about about monks, but ww monk was pretty fun when i played it abit in patch 5.4.8. the classdesign for every single spec and class was the best we ever had. every spec was competitive and fun. we also got alot of new content (raids, flexraid, dungeons, szenarios, worldbosses, battlegrounds, arenas, petbattles, challengemode, catchup systems for conquestgear, legendaryquestline, bm auctionhouse, reforging, etc). quetimes were amazing for all kind of content, the world didnt felt dead, people were everywhere. everything was fun and it was the best expansion we ever got by far. it was also a great time because the whole community was arround 15-20years old. people started to stream on twitch etc.

Great video. I will start to play mop on Stormforge server. Can you please reccomend me a race for Resto shaman, and will I get a guaranteed raid spot with this class? If you have any suggestions , I'm here 😉

as someone that basically missed the classic era (vanilla-wotlk) when classic wow rolled around the leveling the danger of mobs in the world made it far more engaging i feel like that level of danger while leveling with the more engaging kits of modern wow would make the new player experience really good. blizzard need to take a look at the new player xp regarding the leveling because when you're out there the world feels barren even if blizz just reduces the amount of phasing out in these older areas so you can actually run into other players on your journey.

(No AI used, 100% human generated text) First of all, I think that Pandaren are cool, They are funny, colorful, and charismatic, they have a very interesting and multifaceted culture I don't consider them a mistake by Blizzard, but rather a very good decision. It's a matter of taste, whoever likes what Secondly, I don't think that Warcraft should be constantly violent, bloody, and serious, with a heavy atmosphere and a basic idea of constant battles between humans and orcs And I don't understand why people who hold such ideas think that they have the upper hand in the vision of what Warcraft should be And thirdly, I think that Warcraft is Blizzard's intellectual property and they should make their game the way they see fit This means giving zero flying fa**s about the fan's vision Making it as interesting as possible, not to be afraid to experiment and to put creativity, not money, first

great vid buddy _ u cant say easy if u dont try challenge mode or hc 25 ur playing dungeons + lfr for sure they gona make it easy for ppl to get some gear , make some challenges or try to join a guild who rly care about getting bosses down with hc's not normal mode cause in hc alot of mechanics change and good luck :D

PvPing on my destro lock in MoP was sooooo good!

I loved mop PvP but HATED the way all the gear looked. It was just straight up ugly, especially the priest gear. I felt so dumb running around without xmog 🤣 Aesthetically, they missed the mark, but combat felt really good on any class

I started with Wow in Mists of Pandaria. I came from Perfect World INT, and i started this game because my wife was talking about this game soooo much and i thought...okay...give it a try. And i loved Pandaria. It was such a feel good expansion. i loved the vive of the Pandaren...we ordered loads of chinese food at that time ^^ For me Pandaria is my most favourite Expansion. And god, i loved the Pandaren, the only High Res model back in these days...and they had the only good facial expressions and so on...

I don't think this expansion failed. They went with a different asian approach to dark medieval fantasy universe of copy pasted Tolkien's stuff left and right but in the end with siege of orgrimmar, they connected the bridge gap to an old god and it became WoW again. It was very lore rich, mostly a calmer and quieter expansion with beautiful ambience and music around. In my opinion panda was my 3rd favorite. My favorites goes as WotlK > Vanilla > MoP > Cata = TBC = Legion Rest is trash imo.

I miss Mop which private mop server did you suggest me to play? I appreciate any reply

I never understood why people don't like an expansion based on the added race.

I loved the intro cinematic.

While not my favorite expansion, I think that MoP has the best class design. Story was also much better than I think anyone gives it credit for.

Agree with Cata and MoP leveling lacking in difficulty, and agree with MoP Heroics being too easy (did you do the challenge modes though? Some of those were difficult if you do them in the first tier). LFR is also WAY too easy, and I hate feeling like I have to do it IN ADDITION to running the raid every week. I'd prefer never to touch it; it offers zero challenge. When you add it also on top of all of the reps, and dailies, and your farm, and having to kill a bunch of world bosses, and having to farm each patch's special currency needed for bonus rolls, etc. it was too much that I felt obligated to log in and do. It felt like chores tbh... This is especially true if you wanna have alts, and this is one of the best expansions for alts since every spec feels great. The worst part is there were so many things I didn't get around to doing in my p server run, from the brawler's guild, to pet battles, to doing PvP... I felt like I spent too much time doing things I didn't want to do and didn't have enough time left to do the things I did want to do. The maintenance and busy work just felt much higher than Wrath or Cata and almost ruined the experience for me. Solid expansion other than that, and one of the best supported expansions over it's lifetime. I love MoP, but I just feel pressured to do a bunch of stuff I don't want to so I don't fall behind. This was an expansion that felt a bit like a treadmill.

I loved mop, it was either my favorite or second favorite expansion. That being said a year of soo was what killed it.

Also i liked it because it was fresh, it felt different yet good. I loved the scenario thing

MoP didnt fail, classes were at their top, pvp was awesome,pve was good, zone were really nice, alt catch up mech were ok. I really miss mop

I loved pandaria. The last expansion i had time to play wow all in. It had every thing i loved about wow. Did all achivements, maxed all factions, did all content. Last 5/5 expansion for me.

I quit wow during cataclysm. Didn’t like where the game was headed. Came back sometime during MoP and was pleasantly surprised. It was fun. Underrated expansion

Hi Hamster can you please tell us what addons are you using, your interface looks great xD

we need more pve/Rp Server .... Chromiecraft

Im starting to play now there , hope we meet sometimes in game :) . And YES i will play a PANDA MONK!

Never understood the hate for the mop trailer it was beautiful and it still the best looking/flowing cinematic to date.

For me, the reason for not playing MoP was because I heard that they remade the Scholomance dungeon, that they turned Scholomance into a Harry Potter theme dungeon. And I was really pissed when I heard that. So I did my research and yes, it was true, I mean the lore of Scholomance and the cult of the damned is very f. up, and they turned that into PEGI 7. So I kept away from MoP, then from WoD because the main reason of the entire expansion, haha on videos about the state of the lore of warcraft "Garrosh was you know who from WW II, and screw everyone on his way for his bloodlust on MoP, at the end he was defeated and prisioned waiting for his future" and in WoD "some stupid dragon thought that was intelligent to release that c... on an alternative reality of the old draenor then he killed the stupid dragon and this time Garosh is the lider of the new horde" Honestly I almost die laughing after the entire reason for that expansion, then I was so angry that I missed the entire videos about WoD lore to this day aaand later I found that the Guldan of that reality managed to bring back the burning legion hahaha. So my friend, for some people, what you explained on this video was the reason for its fail, for me was what I just explained to you. The lore was everywhere. Now I'm playing Tauri beacuse I really want to play a functional Legion expansion, I played Legion on firestorm a little to late, and the current state of legion there is totally abandoned, nobody answer tickets, or bug reports on the forum, The last time I played there was an Antorus hero, the entire raid gave me just gold until Aggramar when someone on the raid told me to tipe "/reload" then ".f" to die before looting, then magic happended and I looted some gear. So I want to wait until tauri release Legion and now I'm seeing the lore of the pandaren and It's not that bad, yes I still think that what they do to Scholomance is an atrocity plus I really, really hate Garrosh, but I'm enjoying my time here despite the low poblation and the fact that there are more hordes than allys, I like MoP now.

Best class design by far. Pvp was god tier. Best in wow's history. Didn't really care much for pandas, but the zones were extremely beautiful. Story was actually great. World bosses were top notch. Not the best raiding experience, but it wasn't bad by any means. Glyphs & gearing felt nice. Overall, it's my my second favorite period of wow just behind vanilla & wotlk tied for first place. Edit: wrote this before watching, & you said practically everything I did lol

Timeless Isle PvP was honestly the most fun I've ever had in WoW

the first time i played wow was in mists of pandaria, i made a character to lvl 20 and left cuz i was a poor 12yr old who couldn't steal her mom's credit card

Great vid bro! I agree the theme of the expansion took away a lot but gameplay wise I seem to remember enjoying myself in pandaria Edit: I still forget sometimes Pandaren's exists on retail tho lol

i dont think mists was unpopular at all, it held sub numbers above 7M for the majority of the expansion

lol bro, i've played WoW since BC, and MoP was kinda touchy in the scene, buttttttttttttttt, it was actually good! I had a really good time playing it! as did most guilds on Eu Twisting nether, also your discussion sounded like you was already a casual! and yes your review is moot!

Heroics are ridiculously easy in MOP but are characters are also very strong after around a week at level 90 It takes no time at all to get into decent gear like 480+ ilvl I was geared for raiding after 2 weeks of the server being out Rn I’m sitting on 543 ilvl and in full heroic level gear (mistblade 2) The 3x leveling rate is great it’s enough to level pretty dang fast but also gives you a lot of time to see several different zones

Totally agree Vanilla to MoP was good, and last Legion.

I don't think Blizzard actually, specifically targeting the chinese market with this one. China is a dictature, where every products must have an autorisation to be sold here. MoP was censured a lot here because of this. And Samwise Didier, the creator of the Pandaren race, was already an Asia fan for a long time when MoP came out. He already draw himself as a Pandaren even before MoP. He just really like Asia.

Imo pandaria was the best expansion. Had so much fun

The conversation around MoP has changed over the years. It still has its drawbacks and issues for sure but I think the things MoP did well are now what people typically focus on when discussing it. I think a Cata Classic would tread water and do better than people expect and I think a MoP Classic would blow people away with how many players it would attract. The pserver scene is going to become or already sorta is two different things. 1) A Classic expac preview room. Where there's a bunch of servers that come out of the expac after the current Classic one. & 2) Custom content is going to become more popular and normal. There's already Ascension, Turtle, Vanilla+, etc but I think there'll be even more.

I tried playing on Mistblade lately and got burnt out really quick.

MOP was great!, better than WOD haha, I loved my Kung fu panda. We went from all hanging out in a central hub together to all standing alone in our garrisons.

What if they made the Pandarens more bad-ass and less goofy?

The expansion where i finally hit a max level, twitch early days began, xfire was still around, MoP PvE and PvP endgame is the most fun you can have along with TBC and WotLK in my opinion, the gameplay meshes so well, every class was a class cannon in PVP and felt very rewarding. The pretach for WoD, was my first realization of, dam things will never be the same again, and again, and again. So i started researching private servers, as soon as i got onto Feenix and PandaWoW, i no longer cared at all about retail.

It had the best gameplay and class design of all time

Twinstar will release a fresh mop server in one month so I can finally try it.

I dont think it has failed by any means. Except for pandas(which people had so much contempt for for some reason) this is objectively one of the best expacs, its in most peoples top3-5. Also MOP being easy wasnt the case back then, people are just way better in average now, and going back to older games, Classic Vanilla is a the perfect example, its not challenging.

this prob unrelated but the way you described looking at rogue pandas is the same way i always feel about gnomes and taurens. And the people who play them just wanna have goofy characters.

Activision bought wow before mop. This was 100% of an expansion for the Chinese market. Fun fact Chinese servers had separate lockouts with 10-25 man vs NA / EU had shared ones.

I mean for us whos played wow for 20 years soon im GLAD the lvling is easy and fast cause the lvling isnt smth i enjoy anymore outside of testing new classes. (Altho ive played most classes in most expansions by now)

It was an overload of pandas and Asian theme. It didn't feel like wow anymore. Would have been nice if they split up the theme with Panda Alliance and something else horde. I did enjoyed the PVP and had a lot of fun with Ret during this time.

Mist never failed.

I loved MoP but for me it's 100% nostalgia since that was the last time I had the time to PvP AND raid Mythic (we made Garrosh our bitch)

Man i loved your review so mush ... Now am playing through first two expansions in warmane and i downloaded helios to play cata and mop so I wanted to know as a causal gamer cause i have uni and gf and work so i don't have like 12 hours a day to play 😂😂😂 thx man

Can you play a panda in the latest expansion?

The earlier sets look stupid on the pandaren,I agree, but on retail a lot of the newer sets looks really choice on both male and female pandas

I think the biggest problem with mop was cata. cata destroyed the levelling experience. they removed all the interesting rpg mechanics and streamlined things way too much. made things more linear. mop tried to fix some of the things from cata but they did not go far enough. and pandaria was isolated from the rest of the world but that has been a problem with every expansion. i don't really care that it looked silly. i thought it was a huge improvement over cata. mop was the last period where i was optimistic for the future of wow. it seemed like they had learned their lesson from cata while wow's golden age had ended the game was still very popular. but then came wod and that was the point when most people i knew gave up. i kept on playing until 2021 but i never had the same interest in the game.

not only the trailer was bad, but the pacing from 85 to 90 was too slow, the quest lines, the dungeons, the zones, everything felt so bad but the endgame loop is pretty nice, its probably the best and most fair pvp gearing the game ever had

Aside from TBC and WoTLK Mists was my favorite expansion lol.

MoP pvp is the best to ever exist, i didnt do PvE apart from like Timeless isle stuff, I've played private servers my whole life, WoW Freakz was the best MoP private server i ever played

is there a way for new models?

Wats your toon name on stormforge I think I might try again I stopped at like tot

IDK why the made the panadas some weird anthropomorphic godless furry heathens. Now if it were some wild f'in 4 legged rabid beast it would actually be cool

I have heared the exact same arguement countless times, but HamsterWheel is my favorite 😍

MOP took everything that people hated about Wrath and Cata and tried to make those things features. MOP was a massive F U in the face of traditional MMO players. MOP was the first real step into the downfall of WoW. MOP was bad and there's nothing anyone can say to change that.

Sorry mists wasn't bad, I switched to elemental shaman and completely reckt stuff for the first three raid tiers and then they crapped on my chr by a nearly 50% nerf by last raid tier. Wtf is there problem!

Here is my impression of Mists of Pandaria. It was created to pander to the Asian market and the only thing i got that i liked was a refrigerator bag.

Exactly these are the reasons why I quit WoW some time in MoP. I came back to Legion just to see leveling is still boring and easy which made me switch to 3.3.5 private servers

Hold up hold up, forgettable?! CHEN STORMSTOUT is an amazing part of the wc3 lineup how dare you do my round boi like that

This video rings true! If you look back you will realize that main reason for outrage about pandaria was the fact that it contained pandas... In other words people got mad at the expansion before it even released, and then in their anger they kept on looking for smallest details that were wrong just to continue fueling their narrative of how "it is all ruined now".... Player base wasnt objective back then, and it completely wasnt fair towards the expansion.... But in reality it wasnt all that bad, heck, most of it was actually pretty good, and improvement over previous expansion... Zones were amazing and beautiful with great quests. Dungeons were fun, raids were awesome and ToT with isle of thunder was best content in the game's history. Even classes were all fun to play with good balancing. It was for the first time that all the specs trully felt viable... When you look back, all that stuff that people used to complain about just seems small in comparison to pandaria had to offer.

I dont care what anyone says. I think the kung fu pandas are dope!!

Regarding the MoP trailer, you forget that it was the time of Wildstar, Marvel movies and a renaissance of self referential and sometimes even fourth wall breaking humor. Blizzard was pretty sure their audience was going that way too. And they were half right, it's just that they went a bit overboard with the trailer and it felt jarring compared to the end of Cata. It was a miscalculated step

What I think of MoP is that I like it more than I don't like it, but it's an expansion with many positivies and many negatives, my least favorite expansion for sure. Here is my summary of the expansion: MoP Tier14 raids were some of the worst raids ever, then 5.1 and 5.3 were no tier patches, that's 2x content draughts for you there. The early reliance on dailies was so annoying, way too many of them. The timeless isle is bad, it was too easy and braindead. And then by 5.3 there were the simple rotations that popped up and they just made classes have tons of extra unused abilities and the rotation themselves became simpler than both Cata and Wotlk on specs that had them. And MoP actually had bad dungeons, this has never happened in WoW outside of vanilla and the occasional outlier in early expansions. And when it comes to raids, Tier 14 raids were easier than any raid in Cata. Mechanically also raids didn't get much more complex than Cata for most fights. The positives of MoP: 1. Throne of Thunder and Siege of Orgrimmar - excellent raids, especially ToT 2. Monk - epic class. 3. Pandaren - finally a shared race 4. The Brawlers guild 5. The addition of flex. 6. Pandaria was the best levelling at the time since TBC MoP Negatives: 1. Tier 14 raids(ToES, MV and HoF) - far worse than dragon soul, still better than Trial of the Crusader and most Vanilla raids 2. 5.1 and 5.3 content draught in terms of raids 3. Bad dungeons 4. Poor class design due to scaling, simpler rotations and a lot of CC and Utility Spells. 5. Timeless Isle. 6. Dailies in early MoP 7. Leveling became bad in MoP, outside of Pandaria levelling itself. 8. MoP was the beginning of Patch-based WoW - before MoP, in WotLK and Cata we used to have 2x active tiers at a time, but crazy easy catchup gear was added in MoP and that meant that the current Tier, became the only tier. 9. Legendary questline 10. LFR at its worst(not gonna peg it so much on MoP as on late Cata, but it wasn't as bad as in Cata). The negatives weigh-in more though. Neutral: 1. Scenarios - they weren't very good, but they had so much potential, they should have kept them and improved them every expansion, though Legion, BFA and SL have their own versions in the form of the Mage Tower, Horrific Visions and Torghast, they aren't exactly like Scenarios. 2. Isle of Thunder - it was meant to be a more PVE focused Isle of Quel'Danas, but the dailies were so annoying, still I think there should be such a zone in WoW in every expansion, just done better. Also when it comes to PVP: Then in PVP the Druid and Hunter were just broken OP and casters as a whole were just superior to melee classes. MoP was also CC and Utility hell.