So true....early ILL was better then later ILL !!!

@@keithbrown8814oh its ALL amazing!!!

True

@Daniel Beehn That's what I was going to say. He revolutionized they way TV & Films are made.

@Just a Girl You have no idea. He created the multiple camera scheme of filming which was quickly copied by everybody else. He created having a live audience on a sound stage when he was told it wouldn't be practical (when you see any show "filmed before a live audience" in some sitcom, well, he started it.) He and Lucy together invented the idea of syndication of TV shows (reruns). His behind the scenes work, especially with the various Desilu Productions (such as Star Trek) was really more influential than his role on the I Love Lucy show.

@Daniel Beehn And if it wasn't for Desi Arnaz giving a young producer a chance to be the Executive Producer Of the Untouchables. we would have never had shows like Cannon, Streets of San Francisco. And a lot of other Television gems. That producer's name- Quinn Martin...

@Just a Girl You just proved how ignorant you are.

Good grief. He was a flagrant womanizer who destroyed what was handed him.

With respect to William Frawley, his excellent characterization of Fred Mertz was overshadowed by Art Carney's legendary portrayal of Jackie Gleason's pal "Ed Norton". Every year, Mr. Carney was given the award. I think he won five Emmys for that role, while ironically Gleason himself NEVER won an Emmy.@@billhosko7723

Frawley was an ass. The network never put him forward for a reason. He was widely detested.

@@zapkvr That only goes to show how classy of a man Desi truly was.

Audrey Meadows was better than Viv Vance.

Were you high when you wrote this, genius ?

PlutoTV now has a 24 hour ILL channel, i watch it at some point during EVERY day.

Jared Wignall I

Vivian Vance deserved the award! You're right about Ricky, Bill. They all made the show, not just Lucy. Lucy became too "take charge" and bossy in later years.

Ricky should be the first to speak with him by her side.

Then on the way back to their seats "she" grabs the award out of his hand..never cared for her in the later years...

I agree.. maybe some bad blood went down somehow to where he wasn't nominated partly because He was Latin..

My sentiments exactly !

Genius who taped the shows back then. I watched Lucy when I was 3 and love to see Them now. I am 70 now and I have always loved Lucille Ball.

@@donnahoffman3639 Me too and I am 76 - Love Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Both had histories of family tragedy and both were intelligent, competent on many levels. Both wanted to reunite their families and take care of them. Desi's mother died two years after he died and he still provided for her in his will. God bless both Desi and Lucy - they gave the world so much joy and laughter. Thank you.

I read Desi was gonna produce a new show called Fred and Ethel , Frawley was willing but Vivian didn’t wanna work with him. It’s a shame cuz they didn’t like each other-Desi said they were just as important as Him and Lucy!

I agree that Viv should have been given more Emmys but at least she received the first Best Supporting Actress Emmy in television history.

gimpinmypants Dear Sir: Where, oh WHERE, did you get that truly charming and unique "visage" to go with your posting name? I got a HUGE kick out of both! LOL...Thank you! And your comment was wonderful---I gave you my "thumbs up."

Great clip..there's always some nut on here injecting a hateful political comment if u know what I mean!

Lucy Desi so genorious

I think it is one of the greatest injustices in Emmy history that the writers of I Love Lucy were NEVER given Emmys for their brilliant scripts.

So true.

Today ...its truly disgusting!!!

FANoftheLEAFS_RAPTORS_JAYS So I guess the TV Writers of today owe Desi & Lucy a Thanks!

That's wonderful.

Mae Love me too, I love his constant smile and lively nature, besides his charisma and incredible looks

Mae Love cant stand him for the way he treated Lucy, control freak, and cheat!

@Just a Girl desi wasnt a nobody...he did excellent work and Lucy gave him credit where it was due. And though he experienced heavy racism in the beginning, those in the industry had to eventually acknowledge his business and tv production acumen, as well. But, yeah, he was also a cheat and an alcoholic..

In real life Ethel

i never really liked fred mertz, to be honest. the show was great and he could be very funny in his line delivery but ethel should have had a younger husband. i never bonded with fred. and he was mean to vivian vance. something about fred, william frawley, i felt was not nice, cold, egotistical. i never thought he was affable as many others seemed to. i felt there was a meanness there. vivian vance suffered alot over his behavior towards her.

I though he got one for the highest pants!!

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Bill Frawley was Fred Mertz in real life: gruff, mean at times, but also a caring man, as said by almost all his co-workers in television. Vivian Vance started the fight by complaining about his age in a very disparaging way. He never forgave her for that and made her know it. “Miss Fat ass” and “that c**t” were often his descriptions of her. I think that Vivian was the one that thought too much of herself. Frawley played Frawley from the 30s movies all the way up until his last appearance on the Lucy Show in the mid sixties.

I couldnt agree more ! I was just watching with my mother and said that " these two were actual genuine people.. not like the fake get uine we see today!!" They were very sincere and humble stars.. meanwhile now we have idiots that thanks everyone but the people that MADE them... and even when they do its quick and fake and its sickening to watch... it went from classy, genuine and fun and turned into a me me me my options my platform type of sh*tshow it is today!!!

Ha!

I remember that episode, Vivian was great in all the shows!

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That's not fair. There r a lot of amazing stars out there, with more diverse TV than ever before.

and showed some class

@@AJ-cq5pw It is both fair and correct. Real comedy is gone. These people define great. Now? Mediocre is the new great.

RMPsumma this coming from an old man or woman who I’m sure doesn’t even watch modern day tv anymore. Cause if you did you’d realize how incredibly wrong and ignorant you are.

@@AJ-cq5pw My aren't you just the gracious little soul? No wonder you get off on "modern" crappy TV. 😎😎😎😎😎

Vivian and Lucille both wore their OWN clothes on the show, not costumes. So it's not an Ethel dress, its a Vivian dress :)

Calpurnia Moravia I feel the same way! Vivian was an attractive woman, and even though, by 1954, she had to remain 20 pounds heavier to play Ethel, she could have easily worn a beautiful evening gown and looked smashing. Still, it was kind of fun...it was as if Ethel Mertz herself won the award that Vivian Vance accepted! LOL...

I know!!!😀

Calpurnia Moravia ... It's a cocktail dress. Totally appropriate for the occasion .

Eileen LeValley absolutely!

Back when the world had TRUE class!!!!

kaczerm totally agree with you !!!

+Hypercoaster1989 No kidding. If they had the writing categories available, I Love Lucy would have won every year! That's what you get when you're a pioneer paving the way for others!

I agree, but at least she won the very first Best Supporting Actress award. Some great legends, like Jackie Gleason, never even won

kimmieanne1 Four posting people disliked this clip? Is that right?

camiller83 I believe William Frawley was dismissed, unfairly, as an alcoholic has-been, even though he delivered the goods every week on "I Love Lucy." Professional jealousy probably played a major part in his never winning an Emmy, too. Sad.

+camiller83 Amen to that. It's ridiculous that he didn't.

Omg I agree. Art Carney wasn't really that funny to me. William frawley was the funniest guy ever back then. Had a similar sense of humor as my dad😁😁

@@GalaxyTheCharmingTurd Art Carney was Great in the Honeymooners...Maybe your just Biased...

@@juliemnm8273 its just my opinion. You aren't obligated to agree. To each his own. Good day

Match Point But there were so FEW categories back in those days. In fact, one year there was a single "best comedian or comedienne" award, so Lucy was competing against women AND men. Another year, her category was simply "best actress," and she was competing against both sitcom and dramatic actresses. Another year it was "best female star of a regular series," which included not only sitcom and drama actresses, but variety show performers as well. There are probably too many categories these days, but back then there were way too few.

Bill Frawley may have congratulated her, but the hate was there from the beginning, from both parties. As soon as he overheard her complaining about having to play that old man's wife, he crucified her and vice Versa. "Vivian Vance hated the idea of being thought of as Frawley's wife. Not that she had anything against him at the outset. It was just that he was 64 and she was 39. "He should be playing my father," she complained frequently to anyone who would listen. Complicating matters was the clause in her contract that stated that if anything happened to either of them, the other could be written out of the show. It was this overconcern about being identified with Bill that laid the groundwork for the infamous Frawley-Vance feud that would rage for the full run of "Lucy." Once Bill discovered how Vivian felt, the gloves were off and no one could reconcile their differences. Many times during the series run, Oppenheimer had to be called down to the stage to arbitrate one of their arguments. Usually it was ignited when Vance suggested some changes in dialogue or additional bits of stage business. Because the ideas were Vance's, Frawley refused to cooperate, often retreating to his dressing room. Not even the director could make him budge. Oppenheimer would have to go in and soothe his ruffled feathers. The producer usually got Frawley to cooperate by saying, ''Do it for me." Frawley would eventually agree, reminding Oppenheimer, ''I'll do it for you, but not for that bitch!" After "Lucy" went off prime time, Frawley made this remark about Vance, his TV wife, his so-called "honeybunch": "She's one of the finest gals to come out of Kansas, but I often wish she'd go back there. I don't know where she is now and she doesn't know where I am, and that's exactly the way I like it." ( thanks to Taboola Sponsored Links for this piece of information). The photo op was for show business, as it was well known that Bill and Vivian despised each other; it's one of those cases where two people work greatly together, but they just hate each other. In all, and despite the hate, this was a great night for everyone and I don't think anyone had hate on their mind.

+A Martin I had never heard about the clause stating one would be written out should the other die. Vivian must have felt that he held her future in his hands. I think they had a 'like/don't like' relationship....they must have felt hurts from some of the things said behind each other's back....but, at the same time they must have appreciated each other's talents because they flawlessly acted appropriately in their scenes, whether it was a lovey dove you moment or one of their regular parts of fussing at one another. Never did any of their scenes appear fake.....they were truly amazing together!

I mean, what was he going to do in front of all those people? Give her the finger and say, "Fuck you, Vivian?" The accounts from everyone involved with the show are pretty consistent.

Before she gets up to go to the stage, he reaches across the table to shake her hand.

Let's see. Did Vivian mention that she wanted to share her award with "Fred"? Did she express regret that Frawley didn't win? Nope. That was left to Lucy and Desi to do indirectly. By the way, as most know, it really bothered Lucy that Desi was not so much as nominated even once. One does wonder why. Was it assumed he was playing himself? That's not fair. Lucy wanted Gale Gordon to play Fred, though a more appropriate name might have been Chauncey Mertz. It would have been a very different show. Gordon played long-suffering fussy characters and continued to do so in Lucy's other shows. It's hard to imagine him as Ricky's chum. Frawley played Fred as long-suffering but fighting back. He had already spent two decades playing no-nonsense characters, and did so on "I Love Lucy". Whoever liked or disliked each other, they were the perfect quartet on the screen.

Desi was so handsome and talented. Lucy was too.

Eye roll.Why do people see the past with rose colored glasses? Their were divas back then too.

you are so right, grigor. they had so much class

@@bartholomewlemonhead3029 to be fair, TV was new and exciting, it was like the internet in the mid 90's when people still poo-pooed it and did not take it or its potential seriously. Yes, the past is totally over-praised - really miss the Mc Carthy Hearings and morality clauses for entertainers... Pink scare, Red scare..