I hope you enjoy this review, its hard to review products like this, especially when you like them as much as I did :)
@jaseamondo Жыл бұрын
Hard to review, even harder to give back no doubt😂
@R1Zig Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing the 31's. I wonder how much harder it would be to integrate a single sub in your system. I imagine that might be quite challenging. Two subs are ideal in any stereo system. I agree with you. Sub woofers changes the sound from 2.5D to 3D in a well setup system. Super important.
@bigblueocean Жыл бұрын
It's incredible just how much a pair of RELs can add to a hifi system. Particularly in terms of realism and dynamics .
@philiegolf48 Жыл бұрын
I'm a massive advocate for Rel Subs In my opinion there isn't anything better for musical engagement, dynamics and speaker integration they make your system richer in every way 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@sickjohnson Жыл бұрын
So good to see more and more audiophiles & reviewers appreciating the exponential benefits of bass...finally!
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I have been an advocate for the right amount of bass for human hearing for a very long time I made this video over 3 years ago looking at the topic on a fundamental level How much BASS does an Audio System need to be Perfect?? More than you might think!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6mnecehpsu-mKs.html But what I am referring to with the rel 31 partly comes under the human equal loudness umbrella but also there is a little more to it as well, as all subwoofers do that, many are good but less do it quite this good
@markhershberger947711 ай бұрын
This is an awesome review you have presented, and your confidence and rationale for endorsing The No.31 is obviously experiential in basis and shine through brilliantly! You really make clear as words could explain what the effects of the 31’s are, and I am sure listening is another realm altogether. Thank you Terry.
@robvandendolder3157 Жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful thorough and enjoyable review. Thanks Terry. We have a pair of Carbon Specials so we hear you loud and clear👍😎
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Wow very nice
@jeffreythurston1822 Жыл бұрын
I added a REL S/510 to my Focal Kanta 2 speakers. Made an amazing difference in the presentation. I can say I really wish I had the remote controller to help adjust and set up the Sub. That being said, I’m a strong proponent of Subs in pretty much any situation.
@PhillTurner Жыл бұрын
Great descriptive review. Your detailed descriptions are much appreciated. I'm pleased they aid musicality rather than lean on the side of an analytical sound.
@neilpaisley88 Жыл бұрын
Dear Terrace 😊 Our wonderful "deep" love, respect & gratitude we have 4u seems to coincide with these two bad boys you've got shacked up! Thank you 🙏 4 this review & hard work 👍 I think 🤔 you might b hard pushed to find this effect again soon 🙄 REL's seem n look incredible
@taidee Жыл бұрын
Beautiful subs Terry, quite large for items that are the smaller range 😄. Thank you for allowing us to dream man ...
@TM-fx2pi Жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always! Thank you. Even though I have a pair of REL S812’s in my rig, you ALMOST convinced me to go out and buy a pair of 31’s 😂. Good job. Cheers 🍻
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Oh wow probably best to compare first :)
@TM-fx2pi Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem just a testament to your passion I can hear in your voice 😜
@MisterJDee Жыл бұрын
Excellent review Terry! Love that remote bass controller. However I wish REL subs didn’t have that garish branding all over it.
@stevewooten21576 ай бұрын
I understand what you’re saying by how it makes all the instruments sound better even the higher frequencies. I have the G1 Marc two and I know it’s not up to the standards but it does a similar thing. I’m sure these subwoofers do it even much better. Nice review!
@Demonator27 Жыл бұрын
I'd have picked up a pair ages ago if I had the space for them. But right now the REL SX-212 is optimal for me and absolutely turned me into an advocate for the brand.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Slumming it Jackie, hope your well fella :)
@Demonator27 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem All good this end, mate! Hope to catch you again soon. It's been too long.
@benjaminqilafku5714 Жыл бұрын
Yes Terry it was so easy to relate with your opinion. Just before I stumbled your video had a couple of hours of listening to my system made of Hegel 190 Harbeth p3esr coupled with Rel t7x and my room of 6×4×3 was filled with impressive sound pressure given the miniscule size of the speakers. My sofa was literally vibrating.and I assume the merits were mainly to the sub. And my Rel is only 8 inch and 200w.
@leeshelford8381 Жыл бұрын
Hey Terry, great review... I just gave the new Sub Focus album a run out on my stereo pair of REL Carbon Specials and rear Tx9 (invested in recently after your S/510 review)... wow, its a gem of a album to really get the subs going a bit! I didn't have enough room for the No.31's.... but the Carbon's are bloody amazing in my smallish room, same great 12" BlackWidow driver as the 31's I think!
@andrewpeel912Ай бұрын
The no.31 has a different driver to the carbon special, a much larger magnet
@LordyBeevill Жыл бұрын
Oh my lord ..some great systems there .. think I can only fit one 510 Rel in my listening room..to replace my existing 15 yo Rel.. Btw You are good Sir definitely the best audio reviewer I’ve ever heard or read in my 30 plus years of being an ‘enthusiast’
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much to say that wow, very kind of you
@lorindamikaela Жыл бұрын
Great review Terry, I like your personality and presentation and I've been watching your videos for a very long time from Australia. Keep up the great videos and I'll keep watching, CHEERS.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much appreciate it
@Egofileo1 Жыл бұрын
Great job Terry, I was waiting for this review since a while. I'm sorry for the dull question, but is not clear to me if you have also used DIRAC in your systems, and it it's so, how ? I mean, what Dirac capable electronics did you used in your audio chain ? Thanks as usual for share your valuable impressions.
@ac81017 Жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation! I had to make do with a pair of Carbon specials. Took me months to find the right position but well worth it. Hope you keep those 31's
@jeethenmohanlalramboth31 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard you as excited on any other piece of gear…beeg 👍🏽
@Benvos Жыл бұрын
Sub focus has been smashing it recently, some incredible mixes on KZfaq with dimension, 1991, Wilkinson, etc. Worth playing on a good system, they bang.
@noahman2711 ай бұрын
I love these reviews! So much thoughtful information and descriptions! Let me throw out here a word that occured to me when you were trying to describe the difference in the sound when you using those subs. Were you looking for the word "Effortless"?
@Elkemper Жыл бұрын
What is really interesting - that on 18:05 REL and SF's woofers are out of phase. you can see it even better on 0.5x speed. Great video!
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comment so that is playing the first track on the blade runner 2049 soundtrack, I use that track as it has a lot of extreme deep bass in it that really gets the bass drivers moving a lot which looks cool on camera. I would be amazed if you saw any speaker / sub combo being perfectly in time for the whole of that track with the amount of very deep bass in it. The excursion of the drivers to create the same bass frequencies is not going to be the same but a lot of the time they do line up and it’s all the same track playing for every shot
@bbfoto7248 Жыл бұрын
@Elkemper Good observation. Yes, slowing down the video playback even further to 0.25x speed, the subwoofer and SF mains appear to be completely 180° out of phase, while both look to be in near perfect physical time alignment with their front baffles aligned on relatively the same plane. 😂 What's most important when integrating the mains to subwoofer(s) is that the Phase Through the Crossover Region between the two needs to be as similar and coherent as possible. While seeing the "visual" representation of the diaphragm's phase between the two doesn't reveal the true in-room acoustical phase response, with these two in such close proximity and physically aligned, I don't see how they could possibly be providing anywhere near an ideal in-room phase response with constructive interference. Of course, this is just "B-roll" for visual stimulation and excitement, so there's that. 😉 But it's also quite hilarious to hear Terry's voice and commentary at this reduced speed...has the drunken sailor effect, LOL...start around 17:17
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Basic phase is easy to test and listen to the difference, often out of phase causes a serious reduction in bass output which is easily audible. The subs were in phase simple as boys basic stuff. Your seeing different driver excursion behavior, no speakers and subwoofers will play very deep bass exactly identically for something like the blade runner 2049 sound track first track, the dual 7 are moving very differently to produce very deep bass to the subs. Its not really music either its just more of a low pressure constant noise type of sample which makes the drivers move a lot - which looks cool on camera
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Also a very obvious sign is you turn the subs up more and get less bass, that was not happening either - again simple stuff but something that stands out very obviously
@Elkemper Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Haha, man, there is no blaming or attempt to say, that you've done some bad job or anything like that. not at all. it was just very interesting observation, that those was so low frequency, that it could be caught on camera. (presumably it's 60fps) and maybe, just maaaybeee, if this is so low frequency - it's mostly inaudible, so you can not spot phase issues. May be the're is no out of phase on frequencies that are more audible, like 80+, but isn't there a possibility, that speaker could have different phase on different freq range (in extremes, when they roll off)? one more time - i'm not trying to be a smartass, just healthy curiosity.
@supergrissi Жыл бұрын
An extra 14.000 £ put into your system, will almost always give you a better, more intriguing hifi experience, the question is always, where are the money best spent?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Yes very good point made its a lot of money that can go a long way
@klaverro Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystemDid you try using one subwoofer? Would be nice to see some measuring graphics (e.g. with REW) too (before, after, with one or two subs or other versions). Btw, great video again!
@sudd3660 Жыл бұрын
subwoofer are the life of hifi :) and i sure appreciate the quality of these REL no.31 brings. but i also want to see what happens when you stack cheaper smaller subwoofers and add dsp to get the deep extension. there are smaller sealed subwoofers that is three times smaller and are only focused on sound quality, then you do not need large woofer excursion to get the low bass.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
The interview i did recently with Geoffrey from Ascendo he talked about the effect of the resonant frequency of subwoofers in smaller cabinets being higher. So it’s not just the driver it’s the driver cabinet relationship which effects how ‘boxy’ the bass might be. Very interesting guy I learnt loads from him
@sudd3660 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem i heard about that, but i had space constraint to i built 18 liter volume for my 10" subwoofer. and it sounded even all the way down to 15 hz. would have thought that something would stick out between 15 and 25 hz or something.
@klaverro Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. My Dynaudio Sub 6 with DSP does a great job. It adds a very nice extra to the total soundstage of my system. And it's size perfectly matches my room.
@geohof11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed your video. I miss your Home Theater system and your conversations around AV. Will you ever go back to that format?
@PursuitPerfectSystem11 ай бұрын
I have access to a cinema room now whenever I need it so I can make some HT product reviews and videos again which is great. I have a few products in mind I would like to play with some watch this space :)
@railwaystationmaster Жыл бұрын
NOW That's the remote that should have been in the CHORD DAVE box !
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
haha - great point, that is why it stands out, its very nice
@railwaystationmaster Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem As one of the honest and impartial HIFI gurus on YT are you aware of any decent looking remote that operates the DAVE the cheap plastic thing they provide upsets me every time I see it !
@milkman100001 Жыл бұрын
isnt that why we are all addicted to changing and upgrading our systems. to the mind they sound " normal" after a while.its only when you take something away that you realise how good it sounded. if we could always stick to this way of thinking, then maybe we wouldn't spend so much money on changing things all the time.. having said that ,ive just recieved my new svs pb 4000 yesterday. thats to match up with its big brother the svs pb 16! maybe were just addicted..lol
@teknolojigundemi Жыл бұрын
JL Audio Fathoms doesnt have high-level connection, but has DSP features. Are they better? Also in speakers there is crossover but with high-level connection subwoofer and main speakers bass driver tries to play same frequencies. Am I wrong? I love REL quality, I had T9.
@pmizz7959 Жыл бұрын
Man!! I got a pair of S10’s and I love them. I don’t have the room for a pair of them… But am itching to see if 1 of these is better than 2 S510s
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting in some ways yes and maybe others no depends on the placement I think. You will hear the bass is more substantial and hitting I think even from one
@pmizz7959 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem appreciate the feedback 🙂
@stevenkoski22811 ай бұрын
Green Mac tubes had me laughing, save your sign language for deaf audiophiles🤣🙈.
@havardstle3788 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I share your view on subwoofers, Rel or not. I have dual xtz 12 flankink my 803d and i wouldent have it any other way!
@trevorcourt1403 Жыл бұрын
I heard these at the Bristol show 👌🏻
@alexandergroth65496 ай бұрын
What do you think about a six pack rel s510 line array in comparison? Especially in a small or not so big room. It is in a similar price range. Thank you very much that you answer so many questions! Time is money and you spend a lot of time!
@marcus1970 Жыл бұрын
Batten the hatches Tel..... John H ain't gettin'em back.... Lol Astonishing and no.32 even moreso.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I haven’t answered the phone since just in case :)
@sammy10001 Жыл бұрын
Need 4 more of these in a 6pack 😅
@celtic-audiophile Жыл бұрын
Just bought the S812,’s to run with my Serafinos with Devialet Pro 1000.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Very nice you will be happy with them I am sure
@CarlVanDoren6111 ай бұрын
Carbon Specials are no lacky 20.7s, Rel carbon specials Coda Ts v3 800w@4ohm JLA cr-1 active crossover 😊
@jimdavis5230 Жыл бұрын
Hi Terry, a great video and very interesting. Does this prove when Monitor Audio claim that you have no need for a sub with their Silver 500 series they are telling lies?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I always think needing and wanting are two very different things. Just depend on what sound you want
@imosolar Жыл бұрын
Great review and question is it best to spend 70% on speakers then 30% on subwoofer or 100% on speakers?
@sgt_major8419 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the £££. 70% of 1000 is very different to 70% of 10'000 or even 100'000....
@hawkmoon36911 ай бұрын
i have my focal sopra 2 set a 46hz crossover and the sound is incredible thats the s812 pair
@christopherwright817911 ай бұрын
When you get back from Denver you should stream Playing Robots into Heaven by James Blake. This will be awesome with these subs. Perhaps just play it anyway while on your travels. Enjoy
@oneemotiva4975 Жыл бұрын
YES, REL the best subs for sure.
@peterargiros95084 ай бұрын
How would you compare these to JL fathom f112v2?? Real world experience in same room/situations would be ideal to make it a fair comparison! I previously had JL v1 10” and want to get 12s and the much better DARO v2 OR these 😊
@adxangeles78423 ай бұрын
Amati is a piece of art...
@Skye_the_toller3 ай бұрын
quit shocking to see those great speakers so close to side wall and the subs in the center... Very surprising setup for this high class gear...
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 ай бұрын
That’s the best spot in the room for the speakers bass response where I sit so it’s the best spot in the room for them. Width soundstage outside the speakers is compromised but if the speakers are further from the wall that doesn’t improve it just sounds worse cos the bass is worse. The subs were epic where they were so that is good. The side walls are very acoustically treated which is likely why
@thepickyaudiophile Жыл бұрын
Common, you know you need 6!! 🥳
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that but I wouldn’t be able to do my job but 6 would be fun to try
@MarkJones-bc5vx Жыл бұрын
Great review. Is there a rule as to how big you should go with sub-woofers if you own bookshelf speakers?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I would think more about room size and where you might be placing them and then the best you can afford as they will set you up for a lot of time and potential speaker upgrades too. Rel do have a system matching tool that might help. As always best to demo some if you can and don’t forget my comments about the speakers keeping up is partly how I set the subs up too
@jimloftis1617 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@milkman100001 Жыл бұрын
have you seen the footprint of the svs 16? its like having a small washing machine in the listening room.and the 4000 isnt much smaller either..
@sudd3660 Жыл бұрын
i do not have space for full size subwoofers any more, to bad those shallow subwoofers are not as common. so i built my own. those you can fit along the wall and take up no space.
@2013brzsubaru11 ай бұрын
How did the Carbon Special stack up, pun intended :O)
@Octocoupler Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the old rel Studio would compare to these new subs.
@markpommett57128 ай бұрын
How does it compare to JL Audio Gotham?
@pauldavis5967 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to buy a pair???? I am wondering after experiencing something like that if it is too hard to let go?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
My life is not normal Paul, kit is changing all the time and a lot of the better stuff you want to buy and keep because its awesine but you cant buy everything the job is not well paid nearly enough for that. If this was forever and I wanted a mostly music hifi system and I had the money I would be considering it yes, or if it was a home demo before a purchase I would likely buy them yes
@FOH3663 Жыл бұрын
Best LF you've experienced in your room. 12"(350mm), 900w sealed, ... to which element do you ascribe the most significance? Integration with the room's transfer function, and blending into the mains, in my opinion are separate. It sounds like you nailed it! Of course! Your Kung-fu is good.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Not the best LF that is a very broad phrase, I didn't say that, I said the best musical bass from a subwoofer and best integration between a speaker and subwoofer agin fir music. This is even more of a feat considering the subs big output in my small room and me not using advanced DSP to set them up. I have had 4 1000w 15's in my room and they moved more air but still had a limit to how much pressure I could have before it was too much for the speakers and room.
@FOH3663 Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Got it Appreciated I too have 𝙬𝙖𝙮 more than my house can take, w/quad 18"s IB, and quad 15"s small sealed.
@neil_down_south9 ай бұрын
Im after a REL sub thats as good as HT1205 for lfe and as good as t9x for music. Any recommendations?
@PursuitPerfectSystem9 ай бұрын
Probably the 8/12 or the 212 if you want a lot of output
Hi Do you set your speakers to large ,when using the high level cable ,so the rel subwoofers are receiving a full range signal, as this is what rel recommends, although most speakers are not capable of going full range , just recently, I sent rel a question regarding this ,and explained I’m using miller & kreisel s150 for my front left-right-centre , as they go down to 70hz , and tbh I was quite surprised, when the reply was , it’s ok to run them full range as long as I wasn’t over doing it. What are your thoughts?
@yettamon9567 ай бұрын
On testing how high is crossover do you use? With sonus faber
@PursuitPerfectSystem7 ай бұрын
Sorry I don’t remember but I could only get up to about 46hz ish before the output was too much for the speakers :)
@yettamon9567 ай бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem thx i think this subwoofer is intended for big loudspeaker that aim for deep bass like 40-50hz below. If one using bookshelf should aim for smaller one due to higher speed like t series
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
SO TERRY ,YOU RELISH THE RELS…😂💚💚💚
@marcus1970 Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 😁
@2013brzsubaru11 ай бұрын
He obviously does not want to RELinquish them.
@mdrlz Жыл бұрын
so what you are saying is you like something big and chunky, and you know, solid, in your hands?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to banter me about the way I worded that bit - good man :)
@bbfoto7248 Жыл бұрын
For being touted as REL's "SMALL Flagship Subwoofer", with their particular and unusual form factor and quite large size they will be difficult to (ideally) place in smaller rooms (as you found), and are space hogs compared to similar price/performance competition. Too bad you can't orient them upright 90° so they take up much less floor space. In addition, I don't find them particularly aesthetically appealing, either, but that's just my opinion and preference. Piano Black Gloss Lacquer is so 1980's to 2000's. 😊 Terry, in my experiments and measurements over many years with all types of subwoofers, I've found there to be better room integration and improved transfer function & efficiency with less cancellations when the subwoofer driver faces the WALL, and not into the room...at least with sealed alignments. As shown in your review, with their placement, and because bass frequencies radiate equally in all directions, imagine the initial wave front and propagation from the subwoofer cone wrapping back around and behind the enclosure and to the front wall boundary behind them, and then reflecting from that front wall boundary forward to the front baffle and subwoofer diaphragm again. Dependent on the distance from the driver diaphragm to the wall or boundary/boundaries, this will cause a severe cancelation(s) at particular frequencies, essentially causing erratic response via comb filtering. This will be even more detrimental if that particular cancelation frequency falls within the crossover region, as it will be difficult to achieve a smooth and natural transition from the mains to the subwoofer. However, if you face the subwoofer cone closer and towards the front wall or boundaries, due to the much shorter distance, any such cancelations will be higher in frequency and essentially out-of-band or not even present due to the crossover. You will also achieve better in-room transfer function or "boundary loading" which improves efficiency and lowers distortion. Have you tried this with any of your subwoofers?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I had subwoofers placed in the front corners of my room for years and sat near field and far field neither time would I have gotten away without serious dsp being needed, granted I didn’t have these subs but I had good subs including 15s stacked on top of each other. I mentioned right at the start that the subs had to be placed so they could be on camera, rel wanted to put them in the corners but I know my room better than that and know where they are you still get corner like room gain in the low end and when I have measured subs in this kind of position before the response has been much better than I thought it would be. Also I find bass seems to blend better with this placement than in the corner too without time alignment controls such as in AV kit. Could be placebo but I moved the left sub forward a few inches and that helped. Always does in my room for some reason. I know your right in terms of the rooms reflectivity but other problems and issues arise too even when you corner place the subs so it’s often the lesser or evils we have to choose. For me that was being able to get 52kg subs on camera without moving them much. I think these are the nicest looking subs of them all personally but each to their own.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
It’s small compared to their No.32 and compared to big subs but not small compared to small box domestic subs. So it’s defo their small flagship sub that bit of my description is accurate
@MichelLinschoten11 ай бұрын
Always been a firm believer that any system can benefit from a pair of subs that are set up CORRECTLY. that being said I don't like the newer rels look at all. The traditional older ones looked so much more classier in a hifi system. They look cheap these days
@cupidstunt22 Жыл бұрын
It's simple. Do they sound good *to you?* If so, bingo.
@DrBroncanuus Жыл бұрын
so they've gone from using a 15" driver to 12 " driver ...that sounds strange ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
15 is used in the larger no.32 subwoofer
@stevenswall Жыл бұрын
17hz at -6dB Seems a bit too bass light for a several thousand dollar subwoofer. A Genelec 7380 is cheaper and doesn't roll off as quick, plus it has room correction, all for thousands less. What is the appeal of REL subwoofers considering there are much better output and specific use case woofers at that price? This doesn't seem to fit any particular niche well.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting comparison because the genelec is a studio sub with 0 attention to detail paid to asthetic so hardly anyone would want that subwoofer in their home only a very extreme person the rel looks lovely and that costs money. Secondly if you go only from the spec sheet -17 compared to -16 @ -6db is no difference in the real world by the time the room comes into play. So that’s no difference the bigger difference is in all the genelic claims 120db output that is a lot a very impressive number. As I said in the video it’s possible to achieve these numbers for the same or less money. That’s not why you buy the rel. In my room for music I don’t need 120db. For room correction I would only want Dirac live and that doesn’t come with the genelic so it’s not of value to me. So it’s horses for courses like everything. Numbers on paper only tell you so much hence my introduction
@stevenswall Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem So the appeal of this subwoofers the aesthetics? I suppose if someone wants a shape that isn't a box. Just doesn't seem competitive on any level, Even compared to things I would consider expensive for their performance like Genelec. I have Dirac Live by the way... Prefer GLM for a single listening position, but can appreciate Dirac for optimizing for wider sweet spots.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Of course some of the appeal is aesthetics when these big things have to be in your home and style matching to speakers and so on. Speak to people in the real world and that matters more to them half the time as the performance is expected when your spending big money. The fact these sound great in a small room with minimal eq is a testament to their quality. If I installed dual dual 15s in my room the below 30hz bass would be off the wazoo and I would have to eq the shit out of them to make them sound good. That is not a good approach to audio. I used to think it was but less is more when it comes to these things, for music anyway Unless GLM fixes impulse response then it wont better Dirac live for anything maybe it’s just how you have used it as it takes a bit of getting used to
@stevenswall Жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I don't see how these work any better with minimal EQ than an SVS, HSU, or Rythmik. When spending big money I hope people are more particular and don't just assume performance. I've demo'd $20,000 tiny bookshelves made of instrument wood with no internal bracing and the performance isn't there. Same story with REL: unless you like the aesthetic, the performance isn't commensurate with the price from what I see.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Your basing your opinion on something you haven’t seen or experienced by the sounds of it let alone lived with for a few months maybe doing so would change your mind or maybe what you require from a subwoofer is different to what these offer. Both outcomes are possible. I can see many choosing these rels over the subs you mentioned for the reasons I explain in this video. Some might choose the others for equal reasons that are their own. Neither subjective reason for choosing a product and it will be subjective even if it’s a decision based off a personal interpretation of objective data that’s still a subjective decision by the way negates the other. So it’s all gravy buy whatever you want when I experience better subs in my room I will say so. I have already experienced much much bigger subs that were immense for music but not without a whole host of dsp coming before them and not in a small room
@mmdusa Жыл бұрын
Those are subs you build a room around. Gorgeous! Great review Terry. Thanks!