"You literally just DDOS'd the sever" *"It's a hidden tech bro"*

"Bro you just ran that dude over" "Hidden tech bro he should of parried"

"Dude you literally just swatted someone" "Nah bro its a hidden tech"

"Bro you literally just committed several war crimes and sent a nuke to Japan!" "Nah fam we good it's just my epic tech"

"You aren't cheating if you're not caught" -Uzu Joestar

“Bro you killed that dog” *”Its just a hidden tech you can block it”*

“Bro how do you have my ip address” “secret tech devs didnt reveal”

"No other game is better than our friend YBA when it comes to cheaters." *abd stares intensely*

The heritage for the future AUT character having a touch of death is pretty poetic

“Movestacking is cheating!” Paragon Platinum: sweats nervously

the only bugs i ever “abuse” are ones that one day randomly occur as part of my normal combos

AUT's sdio's movestacking is actually from the old universe, you were able to movestack in old universe and everything was buggy anyway. So yeah it's 100% sure that it's a bug from before and you can report people that abuses that bug in ranked.

I love playing SBR and getting instantly killed by invisible and unkillable Magicians Red. ty Uzukee 😊❤️

Gotta love that AUT tech where you tp out of bounds with a ts stand/goku, wait for ki/ts, then go back in bounds and repeat when you have infinite s or ts

guys i found this sick new hidden tech, put your phone in the microwave to receive a random skin in any game!

In AUT theres a “Tech” with tw where Donut can be paired with any other move, leading to a movestack with ground slam, and because theres no knock back theres an opportunity for a free roda rolla.... ultimately doing 160 free damage

And you can never just “try” to tell them off, you get used to it after years.

Worst feeling is when you’re grinding for something and can’t get there because of hackers ruining it

"Dude you literally instantly killed him that's cheating." "Calm down its a hidden tech."

Fun fact: Sdio's movestacking is (or was) even worse then it is said, i saw that someone found out that by using a macro you can not only movestack every single Sdio move, you can do that without a cooldown. Now that's balance.

theres this super cool 'tech' that AUT Tw has where you can stack moves with donut its super coool (joke but is actually a bug that needs to be patched lol)

Yesterday I tried to do solo SBRs on my day off, and within two hours I had finished two SBRs and written 2 reports that contained 6 cheaters. It's just unplayable.

Rogue lineage being a fighting game with move stacking as a main skill to learn: 👀

im just glad that eclipse is looking out for people who dont want the cheating either, instead of joining them and showing others how the glitches work to spread it, he doesn't share it if he sees it to keep less people from doing it, thanks eclipse.

Yeah, feeling when you made it to the end of SBR but then when the final gate opens, you see hackers flying into the very end.

The difference between actual techs is tech is meant for technique, Its something that isnt a bug, and that requires skill or "technique" to use consistantly. A bug is literally just a thing working how its not supposed to work.

Funny enough, I've seen more hackers in normal YBA than in the SBR. Most of the hacking is just people teleporting to item locations or people using speed hacks with 6 Pistols because of its improved dash to move out of stuns such as a barrage.

In gpo you can move stack but the community honesty considers it a tech and the devs kinda do too I think we’ll see if they remove it next update but it’s hard to do and not stupidly overpowered so I think it’s fine in that game

After my many years on roblox, you kind of just get used to it.

breaking news: cheating rate drops to 0%

"Did you just kill 9 families in a span of 1 night and committed arson" "It's just a hidden tech bro"

"You're flying." "Hidden tech bro." - Some D4C LT user.

This glitch got patched, however I sure did love getting 500 + dmg movestack combod by p//s users in aut and then they call it "skill"

I love the feeling when in AUT someone resets and I don't get HP in 1v1 mode. 😭

Good insight overall, I like the video a lot. The Jojo Roblox Fighting community sucks with cheating, that’s apparent from just playing. However, I still feel there’s a bit more grey area to what a “tech” is. Referring to something like Super Smash Bros. Melee, Wavedashing is abusing the physics engine to increase movement speed. This is one of the most widely known “techs” in the Melee community, so what constitutes this as a cool tech that shows skill and can be used in the game to something like Cream’s dimensional hop speed exploit? Is it a difference in games, is something like Wavedashing bad in your opinion, or is it entirely something else? Genuinely want to know, thanks if you actually read this.

example of both a tech and a glitch glitch: being able to movestack tech: impale having no s theres a difference edit: stacking a move with rtz isnt a bug, you're supposed to be able to use the move with the added s of rtz

Love when the boys and I are tryna play SBR bc theres little else to do and we all slowly get knocked off our horses and dragged to hell by a skilled, invisible Magician's Red

I love going into SBR and having fun with a funny exploiter

I love how yba is like roblox moderation where the system cannot even ban exploiters but bans innocent people and that includes me, mobile users that lagged and the game thought they teleported Lol it truly needs a big change

"You just fucking murdered 8 children and decapitated 2 cats" "Nah bro thats a hidden tech"

wdym my tech that allows me to literally become invincible for 20 minutes whilist being able to do damage is a "glitch" and is "cheating" smh

Hackers: have more skill issue than new players

Eclipse, I completely agree with your statements and those who say that it's a "hidden tech" that was "intended" by the devs clearly don't realise how blatant and obvious it is that they are cheating. I have multiple games with the same situation and no one ever does anything about it. I've tried reporting it but no one cares about it at all, other than those with a functioning brain.

I think the reason why cream's dimension dip boosted movespeed is that it you are entering and leaving the dimension fast enough to get the speed boost but not get slowed back down when you leave.

"look at this cool tech i found bro" "wow sick tech bro"

Honestly, Pierce Strike's hitbox is just really disjointed. As someone who's been using Pluck for over a year now, Pluck really just need a rework, actually no, rework every spec.

Hey man, I really apreciate you for going after those exploiters and people using "hidden techs", it has been one of my bigest problems playing roblox jojo games (sbr) so I apreciate your job very much and I have been a fan of yours for almost a year now, thanks for the awsome content

yes, I thought the cream's dimensonal dip speed boost was a tech too, since I watched owen's video about cream but after seeing it getting patched and you telling it to me that it isn't a tech, now I realized it thank you eclipse

"You literally startes flying over me and hitting me withiut me being able to hit you"- every AUT player who found a hacker "It's a secret tech bro"- Every hacker in AUT

people would abuse the HG marionette doll bug where it breaks you and you cant do anything but walk and jump, no interacting with anything or using any moves, it would just straight up break you and you would need to reset, everyone abused the fuck out of the bug in SBR and would just end up killing everyone off and winning

Anyone remember the abd exploiters that said it was just “vamp rework” or “standless rework?”

I’m so happy you made this. Currently there is a bug where King Crimson is able to time erase. And upon re-appearing the users character is still there but can’t be hit. They become completely intangible. In the mean time their real hitbox is posing. (Typically in a tree). It happens every game and it’s downright impossible to kill them. I was ranked 4 and because I accidentally admitted that a guy who was running was wasting my time and making me lose ranked points, he decided to abuse this. I went from rank 4 to 63 in one game. (Didn’t log cause last time I logged I lost my rank entirely.) Anyways. If you are using this. You aren’t good, you need to stop, and will be banned like the rest of them.

I am proud that the only change I made in the game that was 100% me was increasing ger barrage to 1.2 from 1.1 and reducing skill point cost

Not to mention the ABA community with ladders and animation cancels. Par literally confirmed ladder combos were bugs but he just decided not to fix it to add more skill to the game.

Tbh, another part I feel makes a huge part, is that of it being hard to report bugs, and glitches if you do find some, since for Aut, the bug chat in the discord is most time locked, and in general, is kinda hard to document, and put into a well formed post, if you didn’t take a video, or don’t fully know how to import roblox videos into KZfaq, which requires you to have, or willing to use an account, as well as the google doc requiring you to use a yt link, which tbh is just a hassle, especially if your a 10 yr old... as well as processing time for testers to have to read through, and evaluate all of the posts...

"You just killed someone!" "Bro its a hidden tech he should have blocked it."

For freely Time Stopping Stands, you’re able to use Time Skip in TS by pressing your Time Stop key then whilst the animation is taking place, you press your Time Skip key and you do a Time Skip as the Time Stop has visually started. This also applies to moves with like a bit of startup so even if you weren’t able to use Skull Crusher in Time Stop anymore, you could still use Time Stop and Skull Crusher at the same time. Edit: This actually also applies to Rage Required Time Stop Stands; accidentally did it with TW: AU by pressing Z twice.

There's still a glitch where pierce strike lingers, and it lets you use it into anything and guardbreak. It's pretty crazy when it works. Like, ragdolling someone and then powering up the pierce strike lingering hitbox and just absolutely camp your opponent on recovery.

There was a glitch in ABA(patched now) that gave infinite mode for some characters, such as TS Sanji, where with a specific skin he could use Soba Kick in mode as his awakening ended. I didn't run into people using it in ranked but I used it once in ranked(yes, get mad) and it was the easiest win I ever had. Don't stoop to using glitches in the system for easy wins on your favorite game, because it's lame and only you enjoy doing it

I think what we need is just there to be a defined way to understand what is tech and what is just glitch abuse. I little old game i used to play called wisteria had a glitch called run tech. Where if a did anything such as swinging a sword or blocking then pressed w+w to sprint it would cancel any need to accelerate into full speed to run. Basically meaning that players could escape most combos by just literally walking out of it. I was against it and eventually brought it up to the devs a few times to a point it did become baned. They didn't bother to fix it they just baned it :/. On the contrary there is actual tech in that game that was not just glitch abuse. Such as block tech which allowed you to while in moments where you where in neutral to block and counter with another move in order to avoid a combo. This when paired with breathing tech allowed people to regenerate their breathing bar by constantly pressing the breathing button during a combo so that it could Regen while you are about to start something else. Tech is a difficult word to define so i feel like instead of launching a assault on people who use glitches we better define what tech is. Because knowing how the internet is there are going to be players who are actually playing the game fairly being labeled cheaters for probably just being better.

Lmao at the people using fighting game terms to seem “professional” 90% of the time they use an incorrect term anyway

I remember when AUT's servers were filled with invisible pricks spamming face slam and running away.

for clarification on what a tech would actually be, it'd represent a difficult, but not impossible way to abuse an intended feature, like using weird angles on platforms to trick the physics engine into thinkings you're sliding, and gaining temporarily faster movement speed while being able to attack, it's very useful, but not overpowered as it leaves the enemy with a fighting chance,a nd is very difficult to pull off

@Eclipse I think the reason why people think like this is because certain games are like this like ABA on roblox hit stacking so a genuine tech to combo it's been in the game since launch and super smash bros melee had things like wave dashing or Mk x crystalline tremors 50/50 option would miss if in the corner and people would go for a punish when they shouldn't be able to this happened in a professional tournament

This sort of reminds me of the whole "wave dashing is cheating" sort of thing because it's an unintended thing left in the game. But anyways, this sort of makes me confused on what really draws the line between what's a "tech" and what's a "glitch." So, Eclipse, what would count as a "glitch" and what would count as a "tech." I'm kinda just a little confused about it, y'know, because many fighting games have "techs."

Reminds of the time I got kicked for exploiting in yba when I just touched a grey mesh block I pressume it was on the ground

"Dude, you just shot that guy!" *"Hidden tech bro, He could've dodged it."*

I can agree, Planet Shaper in AUT stacking moves over and over again is a clearly glitch but when i asked people about it, they said it's game design.

me: plays 18 rounds of SBR with hackers in 16 of them, the 2 that i win: R I B

The “move stacking” gave me flashbacks to final stand scriptors lmao

Another Exapmle I can find is Aut's Planet shaper move stacking. And while abd is dead, I still find people that use the glitch of using barrage before stopping time so the cd goes off in ts and you can barrage in ts. Mind you barragin in ts was removed as stands like twoh and sp could instakill in ts.

More than half the stands/specs in aut have at least one move, usually time stop or an ultimate that has half or less than have of the shown cool down. For example, twhv cutscene, it only had about half of the actual shown cool down.

In GPO, theres a ‘tech’ where you can Soru(gives you a speedboost+invis for a split second to make it look like a tp) + m1s or a special move that already gives you a speedboost in the first place. This simple tech added alot more variety in combos and ways to approach, while not being stupidly gamebreaking. I think ‘techs’ like this is fine to use and adds more nuance to the game

ABA’s Move Stacking and “Hidden Tech”: All a part of the plan…

I swear my 1 hit that kicks you from the game but registers at 3 kills is a tech I SWEAR.

Ngl I agree with you immensely. This is a huge Roblox thing that happens in every pvp Roblox and it threatens to pretty much make the game unfair to those who don’t cheat and basically force them to do the same thing basically making cheating a community thing, i.e. animation canceling in Rogue Lineage, which pretty much is now considered necessary to “properly” use certain classes. So I’m glad I’m not the only one because it seemed everyone wanted to make it seem a “skill issue”.

Every sbr i play i run into at least 3 speed hackers, essentially impossible to get all the corpse parts now. We seriously need a better way to fix these problems

The only thing I find wrong with this argument is that the very meaning of a tech is a glitch. A tech is a technique or glitch that the developers decide to leave in for multiple reasons. For Shadow Dio I thought the only movestack was High Kick and Jab which seemed fair to me as it took timing and really just guaranteed you could combo extend rather than leaving it up to the server. You can call a glitch a tech but you should always try and tell everyone you can so that the community learns from it and if the devs decide it's unfair then they can patch it. My problem with roblox techs is that people try to hide them not the fact that they abuse them

As a member of the gpo community, the “tech” part is so true (though i dont know if gpo bans glitches)

Man, I remember the terrible move stacking that was going in YBA back then. I’d see SPTW or TH users w/pluck immediately barrage while using Instant Slash just to do insane damage. It also didn’t help that some of the people I fought in 1v1s were using M1s while using a barrage. Those were crazy times.

I highly doubt this will gain any traction, however I feel as if you misunderstand the definition of "tech", usually in fighting games, tech refers to a "technique" or "technical" action. And with some examples, we see that most, if not all of the examples explained in the videos is an example of tech. First, tech was used to describe cancelling a moves endlag, or bypassing the endlag of a move with another in street fighter, which is the exact premise of movestacking. You could bring up "well, even if it qualifies as tech, it doesn't dispute it not being intended by the developers, or it's a bug" and to that, I bring up wavedashing. Wavedashing in melee was a movement "tech" that was not intended by the devs, and was widely considered "tech" by everyone in the community and even brought more attention to the word, and if we see later installments of smash, we see a lack of wavedashing... because they patched it out, and it's still to this day considered the biggest example of "tech" even without its presence in recent installments. Just because it's a bug, not intended by the developers, or has been, or is being patched out of the game, does not mean its not tech. It really upsets me, who is so closely connecting to fighting games seeing you taint the word that refers to some of the coolest, and most interesting things in fighting games, relating it to terms like "cheating" or "bug abusing". Most of the people who watch your videos take what you say as fact, so now a large portion of roblox fighting game players will relate the word to much more malicious examples.

I have to disagree with you here, techs are what make games fun just look at csgo bunny hopping or smash bros wavedashing. Sure "techs" like blatant immunity and stuff are bad. Also movestacking is present in a multitude of fighting games as an example anime battle arena has move stacking and its fine.

this reminds me of the gpo inf combos that appear each update and when one get patched another comes

It's the same with Black Magic 2, another well made fighting game on roblox. People using jump buffer unironically when the devs literally tried to patch it, and they succeeded mostly, however you can still do it just not reliably.

I generally call a bug a “tech” if it can be used in combat, since AUTs meta pretty much revolves around bugs… planet shaper is literally only somewhat mediocre because of bugs. Before, planet shaper could movestack with its v move because of an oversight in coding that caused it to be usable at any point during startup/endlag. Now its only good because… you guessed it, still a bug with the v move… the v move can hit an opponent 2-3 times, causing it to do 60 damage. This gets even more ridiculous once consider the full block bar is 100, and that this move has no startup. The most damaging move in the game is Ger beat down, does 120 damage… half a ger beatdown, with no startup, and it combo extends and has a massive hitbox… did i forget to mention those last two? If this was intentional, this is bad balance.

Just wait till he finds out about aba where almost everyone knows how to down slam cancel into moves

Crazy diamond's debris trap doesn't work in the sea of maingame anymore witch I found out while fighting sptw. Really fun finding that out

also there is a thing you can do with shadow dio to extend your combo which is bloodsuck and then spam m1s and then you catch them to combo them for more dmg

I had this "Hidden Tech" with P//S in aut, it was move stacking. I used it for a combo that dealt about 450 dmg

When Eclipse mentioned the “Techs” an ad about Tech popped up.

This is one of the OG bug's that was acually there for a very long time maybe for more than 4-5 months(or maybe less) im not really sure but it was there for a long time

There is a bug with the world in aut to where if you press donut and another move at the same time both moves come out. Meaning you can do donut and ts at the exact same time confirming the time stop regardless if you have ts resist.

Aut's TWHV triple punch not having end lag letting people get a another combo off of you for getting hit once. same with the abuse of physics with ground smash of heavy punches but at least *some of those* are hard to pull off, that's where the whole tech or glitch thing annoys me

My worst problem right now is there are loads of afk item collecting bots in yba right now that teleport straight to the item it’s so annoying

not once have I heard of some "hidden tech" as someone who used to but stopped abusing a certain tusk wormhole uppercut glitch

I remember using sptw bd on kqbtd when they activated btd which would cause a glitch making my character model locked to where i time skip to and me invisible and people basically saw a pilot sptw. I reported it of course and only used it to confuse people but I’m still unsure if it’s patched.

Eclipse, I found somebody use move stacking, its in aut, the thing is if you use Donut then press another key in The World, the other move that you used gets used as well.

So my guy, all of your points were valid, but this also sounds like im hearing someone complain about smash bros melee after watching competitive for the first time lmaoo same reasoning and everything, just that the cheats break the game more and arent as situational in the case that they arent

The grind for Mih in yba was absolute hell. Towards the end of the grind there were exploiters in every other server and always a team of like 9 people at the end. Especially the Mr and Twoh users were the most annoying

I remember using a “hidden tech” once in TB2 (I won’t say what it does or how to do it) but I won a ranked match using and I feel pretty guilty.